But he isn’t his great pre-injury self anymore. Not sure if he’d be worth the money. If he was in his pre injury form, by god he probably would be worth just as much as Hayden.

has sure helped me out a lot with comments.

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You’re slipping.

he just signed a 5 year deal last offseason.

You mean Jennings or Bullitt (who will be FAs)?

 both to ACL’s if I am not mistaken, the only way I see marlin back is if it is playing for cheap. He has barely been on the field for two years, and I can’t see tying up any serious money in him.

Anyone who reads this site, or any Colts site for that matter, with any frequency knows that Hayden just signed a five year deal that pays a pretty penny. Why on earth would we give the healthy (relatively) corner his walking papers when we have already paid him?

He’s learning. Give him some more time. The coaches have faith in him.

hopefully they’ll get an offseason/TC at their new positions and excel there.

Many people argue that he’s doing well because he starts every game (not being injured) but durability doesn’t always translate into playing well.

I wish Ugoh would get it together and he could be a fine RT for this team. Diem is too slow and how does a man so large suck so bad at run blocking?

Did you watch the Colts-Patriots game? Because without Wayne we would not have stood a chance. Also, your point about the Colts being fine without Wayne and the Texans terrible with Andre Johnson is completely irrelevant. After all, Peyton is, in your humble opinion, the best quarterback ever.

It’s like our site has been invaded by a poltergeist or something. I keep expecting this guy to pop up and start asking for Carol Anne…

because as it looks now, we are pretty good in all other areas. We need to beef up the O line a little more so we can get a better ground game. Id say the the other thing to look for is a kick/punt returner.

Pollack was supposedly the best college center in that draft. Try him back at his natural position.

They did play Ugoh at guard in preseason. But it was only 3/4 quarter action versus scrubs.

it’s worth a shot, and even though we abide strictly by the ‘best player gets the roster spot’ philosophy, it’s still disconcerting to see two highly-drafted players play so poorly at their [present] positions.

Sounds good to me, but you might want to try saying something that wasn’t already said in almost the exact same words halfway up the thread.

Im still holding out hope for the two. Maybe a change in position is for the better. Shift Pollak back to his natural center (you know, after Saturday retires/goes gown (hopefully non of those happen)) and Ugoh to RT/guard. It will be disappointing if the two cant play either of those, but I guess you cant hit on everything in the draft
by metal_militia on Nov 17, 2009 11:54 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

… and how they were able to just plug-n-chug and see no loss of function. Remember the Manning quote about being huddled and not realizing he didn’t recognize a lineman who’d actually been in there for several plays prior? Remember the announcers pointing out how clean Manning’s jersey was game after game? Remember when the running game was there? Sure, part of that was Edgerrin, but a good part was the line too.

These things go in cycles. We brag about Indy’s defensive backfield now, but to me, it wasn’t that long ago when all the pundits were talking about quarterbacks picking on Indianapolis’s secondary. That was a while back – quite a bit prior to the Super Bowl year (possibly I’m thinking ’02? ’03?) – but the point is that the now respectable secondary used to be the goat of the team.

Cycles. That’s just the nature of the beast.

The one that got away….we should have paid him and who knows how good we could have been last year.

Agreed. If you’re going to invest a high draft pick on a lineman, you’re investing in a tackle, usually a left one.

Honestly, the whole line needs work. Ugoh isn’t the answer at Left Tackle, although getting him some work at Right Tackle or Guard wouldn’t be a bad thing. Pollak isn’t the answer at Guard, but his college position of Center might be a better fit. Charlie Johnson is a decent left tackle, but he’s also never going to be a Tarik Glenn-type franchise guy. Worth noting that Glenn was a first rounder.

Basically, I’d say Left Tackle, Right Tackle, Center, and Guard, in that order.

Outside of that, maybe some linebackers? DTs? DEs?

It’s funny how Patriot players change the minute they are out of the system. Bad teams pay heavily for them, and they turn into crap while the Patriots are laughing away with high draft picks.

It is annoying, to say the least.

I remember being surprised that someone with Polian’s reputation would admit a weakness so openly.

He looks like someone killed his dog

IMHO, Ugoh and Pollak are still trying to be sent a message. If they’re inactive at this point and the Colts organization were done with them, I’m not confident both would still be on the team. Their trade value is plummeting so it’s just a matter of sitting them on the bench and rewarding the people that work harder to earn their spot.

Ugoh and Pollak were drafted to start on the line. Ugoh, actually was drafted in the hopes of having 1 year to watch Tarik (a bit teary-eyed) – but he was going to start the year afterward. Thus, these guys weren’t supposed to play on special teams and they’ve never been coached to play on special teams. They can play for us, but it would take an injury or something different to take place during practice during the week for something to change.

If you listened to Caldwell he said that he hoped the battle for RG isn’t over. Meaning, Pollak needs to work harder and gain his spot back. Ugoh couldn’t this past year, but why couldn’t he challange for RG or RT next year?

Either way, I hope we draft 2 OTs in this year’s draft. GO HORSE!