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ok im early but i decided to throw a pop quiz question out for you when you started showing up

 which franchise’s has the least amount of passing yards by there top QB ?? ( dont cheat on this question guys (shake,mgrex)). as a second which 2nd year offensive player is getting ready to break a franchise record next season??

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!

by TheAngelsColts on Nov 27, 2009 7:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bucs?

and the 2nd question is too vague for me. Is it a Colt? or can you specify the position or type of record (passing, rushing, rec, defense, etc)?

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Nov 27, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no not bucs.

no not on our team just on a team. clue it is passing and as i said it is offense

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!

by TheAngelsColts on Nov 27, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

2nd year passing has to be Flacco or Ryan

Ryan isn’t playing overly well so I’ll say it’s Flacco

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Nov 27, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is it the Raiders

for question #1? And I have no idea about question #2.

Peyton Manning makes it Wayne on them hoes!!!!

by KMR24 on Nov 27, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Chiefs

Peyton Manning makes it Wayne on them hoes!!!!

by KMR24 on Nov 27, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

oh, all time

I thought you meant this season.

Ravens is a very good guess.

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Nov 27, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll say Lions

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Nov 27, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just considered the fact

that they technically gave up all franchise records in the move to Baltimore plus never had a very potent passing attack

by cscott5527 on Nov 27, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Aaron Rodgers for question 2?

Peyton Manning makes it Wayne on them hoes!!!!

by KMR24 on Nov 27, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Johnson?

Peyton Manning makes it Wayne on them hoes!!!!

by KMR24 on Nov 27, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nevermind

I forgot that you said passing

Peyton Manning makes it Wayne on them hoes!!!!

by KMR24 on Nov 27, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

phew

I almost forgot, thank god I went to stampede blue right now just to check for updates

by metal_militia on Nov 27, 2009 7:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

cocncur

though both teams are fail, it came down to the wire

by metal_militia on Nov 27, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know what happened to the Giants D

I don’t know if they can even make the playoffs.

Peyton Manning makes it Wayne on them hoes!!!!

by KMR24 on Nov 27, 2009 8:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Texans are 1-3 in division

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Nov 27, 2009 8:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of the Titans

Get ready for a revival of VY mania the week after this one

by metal_militia on Nov 27, 2009 8:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Chris Johnson certainly looks different

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Nov 27, 2009 8:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Vince Young is a douche

Peyton Manning makes it Wayne on them hoes!!!!

by KMR24 on Nov 27, 2009 8:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Titans schedule softened too

playing the Bills and Niners instead of Colts and Pats

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Nov 27, 2009 8:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yup

The offense needs to be a lot more crisper. They are shooting themselves in the foot

by metal_militia on Nov 27, 2009 8:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

those defenses get paid too

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Nov 27, 2009 8:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

im not listening

but if we’re comparing defenses, the 2005 defense was the best as far as ‘can be down right dominant’, although they were also inconsistent.

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Nov 27, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and as BBS said Mathis

plus Brock was hurt too

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Nov 27, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

who WASNT hurt that year

offense and defense? Longest [real] injury report, ever.

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Nov 27, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta factor in

That Baltimore is desperate

by metal_militia on Nov 27, 2009 8:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

effieciency stats on the D

6th in NY/A against
11th in YPC against

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/clt/2009.htm

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Nov 27, 2009 8:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agree with you 100%

The Pats will beat the Saints because the Saints have the most overrated defense in the league

by metal_militia on Nov 27, 2009 8:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

are we even sure theyll be fielding a full defense?

Are Ellis, Porter, and Sharper going to play?

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Nov 27, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

okay

well does this come down to the Saints D being overrated, or the Pats D? I personally think the Saints OL will handle the Patriots DL, and I think Peyton showed their secondary can be had once you wear them down. I think the Saints will be able to run the ball better than the Colts (and I think the Colts were pretty effective running). I picked the Patriots to win, for various reasons, but I wouldnt be surprised if NO won. Especially if they get an early lead, that dome is what the RCA dome used to be.

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Nov 27, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The only thing I dont like going into this Texans game

is the number of injuries. I understand that alot of those players are coming back, but it still leaves a queezy feeling

by metal_militia on Nov 27, 2009 8:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not Philly

they faced a McNabbless Eagles team that was also banged up on defense

by metal_militia on Nov 27, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

the colts

are the only top 5 team that have beaten 2 top 5 power ranked teams

by thebossuzzi on Nov 27, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ugh Hate Favre soo much

Favre isn’t even the best player on his offense

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Nov 27, 2009 8:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Chris Johnson should at least

be mention as a MVP candidate.

Peyton Manning makes it Wayne on them hoes!!!!

by KMR24 on Nov 27, 2009 8:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

if the Titans don't break him

they are leaning on him hard since VY took over

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Nov 27, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Packers OL is awful awful awful

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Nov 27, 2009 8:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

awful to the nth power

before they resigned tousher and got their LT talent back

by metal_militia on Nov 27, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Also Peyton is getting production

from a rookie wide receiver and 2 year receiver that alone should help his case for MVP.

Peyton Manning makes it Wayne on them hoes!!!!

by KMR24 on Nov 27, 2009 8:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Think they made it a two parter

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Nov 27, 2009 8:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Where's Cass with the censorship quote I posted?
“I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic.” -Jean Renoir

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Nov 27, 2009 8:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Relatives were still over.

They’re leaving this morning, so I’ll resume some normalcy. Thanks for the quote though. It’s awesome.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: You've seen SNL's hilarious Dear Sister sketch before, right? You haven't? Well, watch it here. This right here is what the Dear Sister sketch was a parody of. Bet the writers of The OC wish they could redo that scene now.

by Cassieper on Nov 28, 2009 3:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Its not the yards

its number you get per tote

by metal_militia on Nov 27, 2009 8:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We need both of our backs to be healthy

Thats why I want more rotation between the two (Addai, Brown)

by metal_militia on Nov 27, 2009 8:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

shoulder injuries seem to be a death knell for RBs

they don’t seem to be the same until the following year. I hope Brown will be OK, but his production has been way down since he came back, and i don’t think its the OL this time.

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Nov 27, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He also said that the injury was

an old thing from college that never went away. Not a good sign.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: You've seen SNL's hilarious Dear Sister sketch before, right? You haven't? Well, watch it here. This right here is what the Dear Sister sketch was a parody of. Bet the writers of The OC wish they could redo that scene now.

by Cassieper on Nov 28, 2009 3:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

His average

is attributed to the offensive line

by metal_militia on Nov 27, 2009 8:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yeah but

what do defenses respect more? The home run hitter that occassionally loses 3 or 4 yards, or the back that gets you 4 ypc no matter what?

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Nov 27, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

really, though?

With a home run hitter they are respecting play fakes more, they are playing more run defense defenes, they arent constantly getting depth regardless of the play, the CBs sometimes cheat with their eyes, etc…

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Nov 27, 2009 8:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

boom and bust runners kill drives though.

short 3rd downs are very often converted 3rd downs

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Nov 27, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well we're sort of changing the discussion now, though

I think the homerun hitter opens things up for the passing game more. We don’t have homerun hitters and until recently we had been eschewing the run for passes on 3rd and shorts. I don’t think its fair to say would you rather have a Chris Johnson or a Joseph Addai, because I think the talent level is pretty wide, but is that a comparison you think is favorable for the Colts, given their offense?

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Nov 27, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

CJ or Peterson are on a level above Addai

if I was to pick someone over them off that level for the Colts O it’d be MJD or SJax

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Nov 27, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yea, its annoying that Polian said they were going to take both MJD and Addai, but the Jags got MJD first. Our offense would be scarrrrrrrrrrrrry with MJD and Joe.

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Nov 27, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Addai dances with power

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Nov 27, 2009 8:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Atill not where we want it to be though

The offensive line still arent that good at run blocking

by metal_militia on Nov 27, 2009 8:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

better at belly and dives, which we've seen more of lately. I dont know why they keep harping

on needing the stretch play for play action, you can PA off of any sort of run, and since the gut runs are more effective, just stick with them.

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Nov 27, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think at most we'll get 3rd down rusher Freeney

Thomas and Brock will probably get a ton of PT

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Nov 27, 2009 8:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

To be fair

I think Johnson got alot of his big runs against the titans and that college option crap with young

by metal_militia on Nov 27, 2009 8:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Desperate teams

are always the most dangerous

by metal_militia on Nov 27, 2009 8:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

THE 100 YEARS WAR!!!!!!!

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Nov 27, 2009 8:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

wiki doesn't lie

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Nov 27, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp6eswhgOKk

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Nov 27, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i didnt know rap and R&B

was big in Iowa…

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Nov 27, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

were

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Nov 27, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

anywhere there are suburban white kids

rap is huge

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Nov 27, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i learn something new every day.

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Nov 27, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

so true

I will always have a fond memory of me and my white friends rapping to Rick Ross’ “Hustlin” while driving to a Grizzlies game….good times.

Peyton Manning makes it Wayne on them hoes!!!!

by KMR24 on Nov 27, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the confusing part of all of this is

im as albino as they come, as were a lot of my childhood friends, and i dont remember being into rap. ALthough this was 15 years ago, so i dunno…

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Nov 27, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So I'm thinking, if it's the 100 years war, who is Joan of Ark?

I would say Brady, but that too easy a joke and he’s on the wrong side.

I think it’s Jeremey Shockey just because he’s clearly the most likely to end up burnt at the stake.

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Nov 27, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Revens were desparate and lost

they didnt expect the bengals to flop

by thebossuzzi on Nov 27, 2009 8:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yea

and they had an awesome pregame speech from RAY LEWIS.

WE GOTTA WIN. WE GOTTA PLAY HARD. WE GOTTA PLAY FOR THE PERSON NEXT TO YOU. WE GOTTA TAKE IT FROM EM, THEY CAN BE BEAT, THEY CAN BE BEAT TODAY, AND IF WE DON’T, IM GONNA FUCKIN STAB YOU IN AN ATLANTA PARKING LOT.

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Nov 27, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hahahahhahahahahaa so sad

i just got my radio connection up 1 min before BBS is done lol. also lost my internet in while trying and had to fix that

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!

by TheAngelsColts on Nov 27, 2009 8:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I thanked you on the show at least.

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by BigBlueShoe on Nov 27, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yep

though I kinda took us on a weird tangent there at the end

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Nov 27, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks everyone

Thanks for listening live!

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by BigBlueShoe on Nov 27, 2009 9:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

good show

i want a blowout this week , Colts been a lil too cardiac lately

by thebossuzzi on Nov 27, 2009 9:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Just caught bits and pieces of the replay

Wanted to catch some before I went out. Nice job tonight. I am going to offer a different opinion on Donald Brown, though. I fully understand your desire to see him have an impact game and really produce, and I like you’re Addai analogy. Joe has been destroyed by this fanbase prior to his first game as a Colt and is rarely given a pass. Yet Brown has been mentioned a lot as better than Addai (at least on this site, as well as others I’m sure). Doesn’t make much sense.

Yet, you said something along the lines of “a first round running back needs to be a big time player right away.” I agree to that somewhat, but not entirely. If you are a top 5-10 draft pick, then yes, you are expected to be putting up rookie of the year and potentially pro bowl numbers. That is why you get overpaid. For the most part, those guys do well (Benson didn’t get the memo until this year apparently). But for a guy who is drafted late first round like Brown, you can’t expect the world from him in his first season, especially when he is the no. 2 RB. I’m not saying they should be given a pass, but they can’t expect to be Chris Johnson either. I think a season like Addai had his rookie year is an acceptable expectation for fans, and I believe that is what you are trying to say, and I agree.

I have to disagree somewhat with you’re comment where you roughly said, “produce 60 yards next game or I don’t know why you were drafted” without considering that by being injured, he was never able to get into a comfortable groove. He missed 3 games, and any time a rookie misses 3 games, he will take time to re-adjust. A veteran RB can miss a couple and get back in without skipping a beat. They know the pro game and the team system all too well to make mental mistakes. Brown is still new to the pro game. Missing those 3 games is like getting sick and missing 3 straight classes in college, and trying to catch up on notes your roommate brings home to you. You won’t go to the next class with a seamless transition; the notes may have helped, but you’re still behind. In the same way, Brown is not going to come back from 3 games missed and explode out of the gate. As we saw from the Pats and Ravens games, he is still finding his way back. As for “production” you want to see, in the game he was hurt in, he rushed twice for 58 yards. He was going to have a huge game. The kid has the talent, he just needs to get re-acclimated. Don’t pounce on him too hard if he gets like 9 carries for 41 yards or something.

I know you’re not bashing Brown or anything, and I don’t fault you for expecting more in the Texans game and then some, but he is a good running back and I doubt anyone will be disappointed as long as they don’t expect back to back 100 yard game type of production. If he gets 10-15 carries a game from here on out, and puts up around 50-75 yards a game, as well as doing the non-flashy stuff like blocking, we should all be happy.

"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning

by npb1985 on Nov 27, 2009 11:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Regarding the college class analogy

I meant missing 3 classes your freshman year, 1st semester, after coming out of high school. Just in case no one got that. All right. I’m out to the bar. Have a good night, everyone still here.

"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning

by npb1985 on Nov 27, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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