From Adam Shefter, the God of Twitter: Anthony Gonzalez does indeed go under the knife, and more Colts news
Adam Shefter is indeed the god of NFL Twitter updates:
Shefter's report backs up the story from Yahoo! Sports yesterday. The positive out of all this is Gonzo's season is not over. They discovered loose particles in his knee, and they are getting them cleaned out. With Pierre Garçon and Austin Collie playing well, I have no problem with Gonzo chilling out until December.
The distressing thing is that Bob Sanders is (sigh) once again friggin hurt. This time, it's an elbow and it's serious. Players do not go to see Dr. James Andrews unless it is serious. Bob had already visited the good doctor about his knee during the year. Now, it's the elbow. You can scratch Bob from the lineup this week folks, because if Bob visited Andrews, that means a trip down to Alabama.
Again, it is because of things like this that I do not consider Bob the starting strong safety for the Colts. Melvin Bullitt started most of the 2008 season at strong safety, and it seems he will do the same in 2009. I'm perfectly OK with this because, in my opinion, Melvin is now better than Bob Sanders. Talent and "playmaking ability" are all great things, but they are all secondary to durability.
If you cannot stay on the field, you are not "good."
Also, Josh Thomas was signed to the active roster. Josh had been sitting out all season after playing for Indy during the pre-season.
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I guess I'm kind of hardened to it
at this point. Nothing surprises me anymore regarding injuries with the Colts.
It seems to have hit all at once
for some reason. We should be fine if Hayden comes back soon, and Pierre can hold onto the ball and stop with the stupid penalties.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Viz Media (The creators of my absolute favorite show of all-time and inspiration to my avatar, Naruto) just announced a partnership with the channel Disney XD to bring the English-dubbed episodes of Naruto Shippuden (The continuation of the Naruto series) to that station with a new episode airing each week, starting, well, NOW. With the series recording I just put on it, this is one of the greatest days I've had in a long time. I'm not kidding. I love the show that much.
I know everyone gives up on Bob quickly and with good reason but
I’m a huge supporter of Bob and I try to keep a positive outlook with him. Dr. Andrews is a great doctor when it comes to knee, elbow and shoulder injuries. I hope for Bob’s sake its nothing serious and can be dealt with as quick as possible so he can get back on the field.
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
+21
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Viz Media (The creators of my absolute favorite show of all-time and inspiration to my avatar, Naruto) just announced a partnership with the channel Disney XD to bring the English-dubbed episodes of Naruto Shippuden (The continuation of the Naruto series) to that station with a new episode airing each week, starting, well, NOW. With the series recording I just put on it, this is one of the greatest days I've had in a long time. I'm not kidding. I love the show that much.
Wishful Thinking
If he isn’t placed on IR, Bob will at least be out another 5 weeks or so, even if he doesn’t have any surgery. I agree with BBS 100% on this, Bullitt is the starting safety now and I am perfectly okay with it. The Glass Man’s injuries are a complete joke.
7-0 feels oh so good. Bring on the Texans....
like yesturday ill say
the elbow injury still is probably not serious. no one saw anything odd during the game i think he just strained it. but the two possibilites are probably he strained it (should only miss this one game if that) i say that because i just saw that in my NBA team and the time line is very short. or he tore some ligiment which i dont think happened
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Nov 6, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Laaaaaaaaame!
At this point, it almost seems like a non-event for the Colts to be missing 4-5 starters. Honestly, I think missing Gonzo is the biggest problem and even that isn’t a huge deal. Only reason I’m worried at all is because Garcon can’t catch. Marlin hadn’t played much this season anyhow and Hayden, Powers and Lacey look great. Bullitt has been solid for the 95% of the time when Bob is hurt. No reason that won’t continue. I’m actually somewhat excited to see what Wheeler can do in Hagler’s spot. I’m sure there will be some drop off against the run, but hopefully not a lot. His pass rush ability might make up for it anyhow.
Well said.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Viz Media (The creators of my absolute favorite show of all-time and inspiration to my avatar, Naruto) just announced a partnership with the channel Disney XD to bring the English-dubbed episodes of Naruto Shippuden (The continuation of the Naruto series) to that station with a new episode airing each week, starting, well, NOW. With the series recording I just put on it, this is one of the greatest days I've had in a long time. I'm not kidding. I love the show that much.
Good Points
I am actually most worried that Wheeler is now starting because I like Hagler. Hagler can tackle and Wheeler has issued with it. I hope they use him as a blitzer more often.
Another discouraging thing is that Marlin, although basically a non-factor so far this season, was adding to the outstanding depth at DB on this team. Now we are looking at Hayden being out for a week at least and Jennings getting more time which is never a great thing. I don’t mind Jennings being in the nickel slot, but if anything else happens to Powers or Lacey I will be very worried.
The worst part about all of this is that it comes just as the schedule begins to get so much tougher. I hope Garcon plays well and plays smart and Peyton picks back up where he was before last week.
7-0 feels oh so good. Bring on the Texans....
For once
I’d like to hear something about a surgery or an injury from someone other than the media. Oh I’ll just cut to the point; I’m getting a little tired of the Colts never being forthcoming with ANYTHING injury related. It’s gone beyond ridiculous. Gonzo out since Week 1, we hear nothing, and now surgery. They’re not fooling any of the teams, it only serves to mislead the fans at this point.
I’d rather get a “Oh we don’t think it’s that bad….oops, we were wrong, might miss a little more time.” or a “This might end his season….oops, we were wrong, he rehabbed faster than we expected.” than a “Buubuuubuuubuuubuuubuuu?”.
Better than sitting here hypothesizing about what may or may not be going on.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
So true
Things we can count on every year.
1. Sanders will play only a fraction of the time.
2. Fans will continue to have wet dreams about Sanders’ playmaking abilities in 2007
3. Polian will give fans the finger for no good reason
4. Injuries will continue to mount every single year just like they do on every other team in the NFL.
Things we should never expect to happen.
1. Colts will correctly diagnose an injury as season ending, place that player on IR and move quickly to sign another player in his place. The team will move forward and not skip a beat.
2. Bob Sanders will play over 10 games
7-0 feels oh so good. Bring on the Texans....
Oh
At least our “real” secondary is healthy. Don’t fool yourselves, Freeney and Mathis made David look like a pro bowler. It’s a little frustrating to see others go out, but let’s be real, those two are the linchpins of the defense.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
Yeah thats what I was thinking too
but he’s no longer a Colt so he’s not at all benefiting from the Freeney and Mathis And even now to say they are the real secondary is funny. You gotta give credit where credit is due and Lacey and Powers are doing a GREAT job. Especially for 2 rookies.
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
Yep
Finally Caldwell and Polian addressed an issue with the secondary and focused more on coverage ability than tackling ability. Lacey and especially Powers are continuing what started with Hayden. Guys that have the ability to play man coverage while the DEs are able to bring pressure and now we have flexibility to blitz a corner, safety or LB once in a while to add wrinkles.
I am very impressed so far.
7-0 feels oh so good. Bring on the Texans....
I believe I am
giving credit where credit’s due. Freeney and Mathis are the one consistent thing we’ve had on defense. Their pass rush does more for our secondary than any DB could do by himself unless his name is Champ or Nnamdi. Even then they can still have a bad game. I’m not taking away from the guys playing in our secondary, they’re good players. What I’m saying is that the whole “next man up” works as long as we can keep Freeney and Mathis on the field. Our consistency in our passing defense has only had three consistent players over the last few years. Bethea, Freeney, Mathis. Unless I see an injury report on those three I’m not going to freak.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
Find a dictionary. Look up "better".
If you were to say that Melvin is a “more valuable” safety than Bob, we might be able to discuss it. He’s absolutely providing better value for the money. But when Bob is healthy he’s going to be the first choice over Melvin. He’s faster, smarter, and a harder hitter. That doesn’t make Melvin “bad” or even “not good”, it just means we have two great safeties on the roster. Who gives a rat’s ass which one starts?
The question now is, what is a partial season worth? Bob shut up a lot of haters when he came back for the postseason in 2006 and the butter defense suddenly turned to stone. If he does that again this year is he worth the $6,130,833? Is he worth another $4,184,166 next year? Maybe, but if money needs to be saved I’m starting to think Bob will be in the crosshairs.
But that still doesn’t make Melvin Bullitt a better safety. Just a better choice for this team at this time.
Never approach a vast undertaking with a half-vast plan.
by szquirrel on Nov 6, 2009 10:54 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
+1
You’re right on the maney. I’m waiting for BBS’s new posts about how Hayden and Gonzo aren’t “good” and Garcon and Lacey are “better.” I like his posts and his passion for this team, but sometimes I think he says things just for shock value, and he should leave that to KR. Right now, Bullitt is the safety this team needs, I agree, but is not, I repeat NOT, better than Sanders.
Finally some 'not bad' news
The only reason marlin’s injury is bad is because it’s takes away our depth. If this group stays healthy we should be ok. Sanders season looks an awful lot like 2006 again…. Not the worst news. I kinda feel at peace knowing that even if we go 5-4 the rest of the way… We will be 12-4 and will def make the playoffs. Time to get healthy so we can make a serious run when it matters.
DID SOMEONE SAY CHAMPIONSHIP
by BROWNdude on Nov 6, 2009 10:56 AM EST via mobile reply actions
BRING IT ON.
My new slogan for the rest of the season.
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
"As I grow older, the list of people who can kiss my ass grows longer"-Ancient Hoosier Proverb.
Agree
But I would hate to go 5-4 the rest of the way because it wouldn’t seem to give this (getting younger by the second) team a lot of confidence heading into the grueling playoff stretch.
There will be some losses for sure, but as long as the team continues to get better in key areas like running the ball and the return game things should be fine.
7-0 feels oh so good. Bring on the Texans....
5-4 the rest of the way................
Man don’t be saying that. Jinx! Now I gotta go sacrifice a chicken.
hopefully the texans
can take advantage of the injuries.
I think the colts are due for a loss anyway’s.
question
how likely is it that bethea is a colts next year. I think he would look great next to pollard as the texans safety tandem
BOOOOOO
Bethea is getting more and more valuable to this team in my opinion. I think it would be best to re-sign him to a long term contract.
Wouldn’t you rather see the Texans beat the Colts in Reliant? There’s no way they will win both games so put on a show for the fans at home if you win one of them this year.
7-0 feels oh so good. Bring on the Texans....
yeah i would love to win at reliant
but we have never beat yall in indy, and i think it would be HUGE for our team to pull it off.
I give us about a 30% chance which is better than they have ever had. they played them tough last year and now matt schaub can play a full game against the colts hopefully so i like our chances to keep it close and have a chance at the end.
im hoping 34-31 texans, and wouldnt be dissappointed if they lose, but if they get blown out it will not be a fun week in htown
not likely at all
the Colts will resign Bethea so dont worry about it…you’ll still see him in blue and white next year
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
Why do you think the Colts signed a DE to replace a CB?
Was it just opportunity to get more depth there, whereas we already have it at CB? Or does Thomas somehow have the flexibility to work at various positions that might be in jeopardy?
Thoughts?
How can you not love a team that does this?
Maybe he's just the best athlete available? And knows the system.
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
"As I grow older, the list of people who can kiss my ass grows longer"-Ancient Hoosier Proverb.
Still playing
the Bob Sanders is not great card again, huh? Oh, wait, now he’s not even good? Look, I know you love getting attention for saying things for shock value, ala Skip Bayless, but you just come off sounding bitter and stupid. You are pissed at Bob Sanders for constantly getting hurt, I know. Don’t be an idiot, though. When healthy, he is a top 3 safety and is a backbone for our defense. Bullitt is not. I know we’re all frustrated that Bob once again is likely headed towards the bench, and this time its for a freakin elbow, but saying he is not a good player is laughably stupid.
Yet, unless this “opinion” comes back that he should just miss a game or two, and perhaps even in that case, then Bullitt is now the starting safety. You don’t go to Andrews though, if you just got a boo boo, so I’m not thinking we’ll see much of Bob again. I’m frustrated with his injury prone-ness that keeps increasing as well. I’m afraid next time he sneezes, he’ll tear an ACL. Therefore, Melvin Bullitt, who has waited paitently, should now be our starting safety. He is not yet as good as Bob Sanders, certainly not great, and anyone who thinks so is a complete FOOL, but at this point, he has become more “valuable” because he can actually be relied on to play, as Bob clearly cannot. We do not need Bob out there because Bullitt has been so valuable, but we are in fact a better team when Bob is out there healthy. That is a fact, and should be obvious, but I guess some people choose to be angry rather than rational. At season’s end, Melvin may prove to be as great, and I hope he does, but he hasn’t yet.
As far as injuries go, we have been extremely lucky that we have such excellent talent at our backups. Lacey, Powers, Bullitt, Collie, and Garcon have all proven they are more than capable of being an above average starter in this league. Hopefully Wheeler will prove so, too. I don’t find those guys “better” than Hayden, Gonzo, or Sanders, (I actually think Powers may be better than Jackson, but jury’s still out), but right now they are proving to be just as if not more valuable. I want to see Hayden, Gonzo, and co. out there, but not doing so does not make me worry. Most teams take a huge step back when starters get injured, but we are just that good. Don’t mean to sound cocky, but it’s the truth. Our ’06 team was beat up much more than this, and we managed to win a SB. This team is better.
I agree with everything you said
but to clear up what I assume to be your response to my comment, I know you dont go to Andrews for a " boo boo." What I meant was if its something thats require him to go under the knife then hopefully it will be a gonzo type surgery where he can be back in 2-4 weeks. At least come playoff time. I just cant see this being a season ending injury if he played through it during the game. I know I’m optimistic, but I realize how much of an impact Bob has on this defense and I just want to see this defense play to full potential come playoff time.
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
by coltsfan723 on Nov 6, 2009 11:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
How are we “lucky” to have excellent depth? Luck had nothing to do with picking them up.
I did this a few times at that dump of a site I used to write for so I figured, hell, why not try it out over at Stampede Blue you know? At least this time someone will actually be reading it.
-Me
This is true.
Polian is the best at that.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Viz Media (The creators of my absolute favorite show of all-time and inspiration to my avatar, Naruto) just announced a partnership with the channel Disney XD to bring the English-dubbed episodes of Naruto Shippuden (The continuation of the Naruto series) to that station with a new episode airing each week, starting, well, NOW. With the series recording I just put on it, this is one of the greatest days I've had in a long time. I'm not kidding. I love the show that much.
haha was just going to make this my first post informing of this if it hadent but
i guess im behind when i sleep in for the first time in weeks oh well
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
How does Shefter back up Yahoo?
Yahoo said he probably had a torn PCL and implied that his return this season would require a “miracle”.
Shefter says he had a scope to clean up loose particles and will be out 2-3 weeks.
Yahoo was wrong.
18to88.com
Bob is having elbow surgery,
and Hayden is missing 4 weeks with his knee injury. Straight from Caldwell and Chappell here:
If someone else wants to make a FanPost on this, they can. I’m too depressed about Hayden being out. I’m also in the middle of math class, so there’s that too. Just give me credit for being the first ;-)
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Viz Media (The creators of my absolute favorite show of all-time and inspiration to my avatar, Naruto) just announced a partnership with the channel Disney XD to bring the English-dubbed episodes of Naruto Shippuden (The continuation of the Naruto series) to that station with a new episode airing each week, starting, well, NOW. With the series recording I just put on it, this is one of the greatest days I've had in a long time. I'm not kidding. I love the show that much.
well that didn't work well
look for “More bumps to report” – beat you by 28 minutes
wow I feel so good about that
not
this week has sucked with a capital suck
How can you not love a team that does this?
I had been so busy with other stuff (math class)
that I hadn’t read that article yet. (sobs)
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Viz Media (The creators of my absolute favorite show of all-time and inspiration to my avatar, Naruto) just announced a partnership with the channel Disney XD to bring the English-dubbed episodes of Naruto Shippuden (The continuation of the Naruto series) to that station with a new episode airing each week, starting, well, NOW. With the series recording I just put on it, this is one of the greatest days I've had in a long time. I'm not kidding. I love the show that much.
You get a gold star!!
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Nov 6, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
THIS MADNESS NEEDS TO STOP!
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
"As I grow older, the list of people who can kiss my ass grows longer"-Ancient Hoosier Proverb.
idk try it just dont come on till sunday ok
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Nov 6, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
The Colts should trade Bob
He’s simply not worth that huge contract to play only 4 games each year. Trade him, get a good draft pick, use that extra money for players that will actually play.
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i dont think we could
most wont take him probably because of the injuries which is why we would want to trade him. i think we will be keeping him
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Nov 6, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Oh we could probably trade him.....
we’d just be lucky to get a sack of footballs and gatorade cooler for him at this point. In all seriousness though he has almost absolutely no real trade value.
His contract isn't that huge
It’s only about 4 million next year.
You couldn’t get a fourth round pick for him. Trading players is just not how the NFL works.
18to88.com
by deshawn zombie on Nov 6, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
They wont trade him
the Colts arent stupid enough to trade away a huge playmaker.HOWEVER, they will, Im sure, restructure his contract
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
They don't need to.
His base salary is only 2.25 million dollars. There’s nothing to restructure. I guess you could have him take a million dollar pay cut, but it’s barely worth it.
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by deshawn zombie on Nov 6, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
Sanders had torn biceps (From Schefter on Sportscenter)
Out for season. This is just in.
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Well crap.
At least we can put him on IR and stop speculating.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Viz Media (The creators of my absolute favorite show of all-time and inspiration to my avatar, Naruto) just announced a partnership with the channel Disney XD to bring the English-dubbed episodes of Naruto Shippuden (The continuation of the Naruto series) to that station with a new episode airing each week, starting, well, NOW. With the series recording I just put on it, this is one of the greatest days I've had in a long time. I'm not kidding. I love the show that much.
how glad i am that that isn't what he said
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Nov 6, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
OK,
I’m now going to make a FanPost about all of these freaking injuries, our remaining starters/depth, and what this means for our team. It should be up sometime soon.
Hopefully, we’ll be able to get perspective on these things. Otherwise we can just start crying.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Viz Media (The creators of my absolute favorite show of all-time and inspiration to my avatar, Naruto) just announced a partnership with the channel Disney XD to bring the English-dubbed episodes of Naruto Shippuden (The continuation of the Naruto series) to that station with a new episode airing each week, starting, well, NOW. With the series recording I just put on it, this is one of the greatest days I've had in a long time. I'm not kidding. I love the show that much.
I pray gonzalez gets back 100%
and I also prey that no more significant injuries occur. One is too many

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