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Week 14: Friday Injury Report

No suprises, the only players ruled out have missed significant time, all the newer injuries have returned to practice (minus Diem who is backsliding after practicing Wednesday).

 

Out: Donald Brown (chest), Anthony Gonzalez (knee), Aaron Francisco (ankle), Adam Vinatieri (knee)

Questionable (days of practice): Keyunta Dawson (3), Ryan Diem (1), Charlie Johnson (2), Robert Mathis (1), Daniel Muir (1.5), Clint Session (2), Tony Ugoh (2),

Probable: Hank Baskett (baby), Gary Brackett (foot), Melvin Bullitt (shoulder), DeVan (shin), Hayden (ankle), Tim Jennings (ankle), Peyton Manning (glute), Jamey Richard (shoulder), Tom Santi (hand), Reggie Wayne (foot).

 

IFR relays Mathis, Diem and Dawson's strong beliefs that they will be on the field Sunday

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As good as you could hope for

Really.

"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."

by Colts Homer on Dec 11, 2009 6:33 PM EST reply actions  

oh and I"m not sure I've seen it discussed

but I think Francisco has a high ankle sprain. That would explain the long term injury and why the first week he had it his injury was listed as shin.

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Dec 11, 2009 6:35 PM EST reply actions  

Heh.

I was in the middle of creating one. Glad I checked back on the front page halfway through to make sure you weren’t doing it simultaneously.

I think it’s also important to note that both Mathis and Muir had full participation in pract today after being limited or having no participation Thursday.

But yeah, good news all around. I’m also interested in seeing how Ugoh will fare as the RT.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: In England, the Speaker of the House is not allowed to speak.

by Cassieper on Dec 11, 2009 6:40 PM EST reply actions  

yes everyone on there as questionable has said they are playing exept no word on muir

and cass also caldwell hinted something that worries me a little that johnson could move over to RT and ugoh RT if diem for some reason doesn’t play since he has experience there

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!

by TheAngelsColts on Dec 11, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

That's interesting........

They must have tried Ugoh at RT in practice, and Ugoh must have proceeded to stink it up there.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: In England, the Speaker of the House is not allowed to speak.

by Cassieper on Dec 11, 2009 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

i think people are finally getting better

as was said earlier by me and a few others mathis, dawson, ugoh and johnson all are expected to play by all accounts of what they say and even caldwell seems to beleive they will

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!

by TheAngelsColts on Dec 11, 2009 6:40 PM EST reply actions  

"None"

I like how Bethea and Freeney have a gameday status of ‘None’. I never noticed that before. I assume the NFL makes them put a player on the injury report even if they’re just resting them, so ‘none’ means they don’t have an injury and are playing.

by smonroe on Dec 11, 2009 6:59 PM EST reply actions  

Nope.

The NFL does not force teams to put any players on the injury report if the team is sure they will play. The only problem would come if many probables start not playing or if someone not on the injry report sits out of the game. It doesn’t go the other way to my knowledge.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: In England, the Speaker of the House is not allowed to speak.

by Cassieper on Dec 11, 2009 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

i think

they put em on the report to get them treated , like you can have a day off but you need to come in for treatment on that calf that was hurting during the game.

by thebossuzzi on Dec 11, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a bad report.

Although I HOPE Mathis is playing, I’m counting on seeing Orton getting sacked.

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
"As I grow older, the list of people who can kiss my ass grows longer"-Ancient Hoosier Proverb.

by Indy Lori on Dec 11, 2009 7:09 PM EST reply actions  

changed it

but not to your suggestion

HA

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Dec 11, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

You really showed him there.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: In England, the Speaker of the House is not allowed to speak.

by Cassieper on Dec 11, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

You should really get your tuition check returned

From the Emmitt Smith Eloquence Academy. Unless they already depositorized it.

I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.

by Bobman on Dec 12, 2009 2:49 AM EST up reply actions  

+1 for the Simpsons reference.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: In England, the Speaker of the House is not allowed to speak.

by Cassieper on Dec 12, 2009 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope you dont push yourself Mathis

We need you for the big tournament. We cannot afford to lose either him nor Freeney

by metal_militia on Dec 11, 2009 7:48 PM EST reply actions  

Don't worry.

I won’t push Mathis.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: In England, the Speaker of the House is not allowed to speak.

by Cassieper on Dec 11, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

What are the odds that Baskett and Brady were in parenting classes together this week?

Yeah, I thought so….

I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.

by Bobman on Dec 11, 2009 8:19 PM EST reply actions  

About the same odds

as you ever liking Joe Namath.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: In England, the Speaker of the House is not allowed to speak.

by Cassieper on Dec 11, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

No way

The man who publicly called his teammates out for not working hard enough could not possibly miss the next game because his wife had a kid (unless maybe there are serious medical complications, which I hope there are not).

I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.

by Bobman on Dec 12, 2009 2:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd think we would have heard

about it by now if there were complications. Tabloids have their ways of finding that stuff out with big figures like Brady.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: In England, the Speaker of the House is not allowed to speak.

by Cassieper on Dec 12, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

it was only questionable

and due to a rib injury, which likely happend on the first TD pass to Moss last week. they said in nfln that he’ll play. he’s pretty tough

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Dec 12, 2009 11:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

sorry for misspellings

typing on my phone (from my hotel room a mile from the Luke – yeeeaaahhhh!!!!!!)

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Dec 12, 2009 11:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Folks, I'm sorry to be off topic:

But for those who wish to indulge in schadenfreude:

http://www.indystar.com/article/20091211/SPORTS03/91211021/1004/SPORTS/Patriots-mascot-arrested-in-RI-sex-sting

A man who acts as a mascot for the New England Patriots is among 14 people who have been arrested for prostitution-related crimes in Rhode Island since a new law went into effect that banned indoor prostitution…

… State Police say Robert Sormanti of Warwick was among those arrested in an undercover sting at a hotel. The Providence Journal reports Sormanti is among the team’s mascots.

I mean, this shouldn’t reflect on the team itself now. It’s just the mascot. So we should all feel guilty about laughing hysterically about this. We all should feel bad about passing this along to other fans of other teams around the league. We really all should feel a touch of shame at thinking this is something to poke fun at NE fans for. We really shouldn’t be:

So for any of us you sick people out there who take great joy at things simply because they relate something embarassing with some other team somewhere else: You should be ashamed of yourself! For shame! For shaaaaaaaaame!!!

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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Dec 11, 2009 8:42 PM EST reply actions  

wait
banned indoor prostitution

Is it still legal outside?

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Dec 11, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

That's what I'm talking about

"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."

by Colts Homer on Dec 11, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm... you may have a point =D
wait
banned indoor prostitution

Is it still legal outside?

Huh… that’s a good question.

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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Dec 11, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

That was my first thought.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: In England, the Speaker of the House is not allowed to speak.

by Cassieper on Dec 11, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Ditto

Unless it was always illegal outside, and now they just decided to add the “roof and walls provision” to broaden the reach of the law.

No word yet on prostitution in tents and gazebos, so if that’s your thing… as you were.

Yes, I’m kidding, but that piece has a lot of good wording. “undercover prostitution sting at a hotel?” Couldn’t they see the giant lumps made by the cops as they hid under the bedspreads?

I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.

by Bobman on Dec 12, 2009 2:56 AM EST up reply actions  

This really screws the Pats

The headline I saw said he was “nabbed.” I’d have used “nailed” myself for a sex scandal, but that’s just me.
I guess their Flying Elvis mascot was just too much of a hunka hunka burnin’ love.
Of course the old Pat Patriot mascot was once put in the stocks for “carnal knowledge of a scullery maid,” so nobody’s perfect.

Even farther off topic, but still in the sex scandal vein, in the aftermath of the Tiger Woods fiasco, my wife was reading an online article about the worst celebrity mistresses. I was familiar with most of them but didn’t recognize most of the names. The one I really had no idea who she was talking about, until I saw a photo, turned out to be Steve McNair’s. I said, “Hon, she wins the award as the worst mistress. Far as I know, Camilla Bowles and Madonna didn’t kill anybody.” Rule of thumb: Bad mistress: you suffer public shame and lose millions and millions. REALLY bad mistress: you’re dead before age 40. But I DID learn that Steve Garvey is incapable of actually zipping his fly closed—I knew he had a scandal 20 years ago, but didn’t realize how many women and offspring were involved.

Hey, it’s been a few years since he retired ands he has a lot of mouths to fees, so maybe he needs work… I understand the Pats need a new mascot.

I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.

by Bobman on Dec 12, 2009 3:22 AM EST up reply actions  

quick question

is our magic number 1, or is our magic number 1 if we beat the broncos because of the common opponents tie breaker?

The reason I ask is, its great that everyone on the active roster has gotten a case of the big boy pants and wants to play through injury, but speed rushers need their quads, and Diem is already slower than me, I’m all for people getting to 100%.

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Dec 11, 2009 10:17 PM EST reply actions  

I could be wrong, but it's 1 for the Chargers, but the Bengals could still tie us on common opponents if

we lose to the Broncos and beat the Jets (and lose to the Bills and Jags.) They could also beat us on common opponents if the one game we win from the remaining four is against the Jags or the Bills. In case we beat the Jets and lose to the other three, the next tie breaker against Cincy would go to strength of victory, but I haven’t look into it those scenarios.

Obviously Cincy has to win out for any of these scenarios to matter.

by diagenesis on Dec 11, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

We'd be #1 seed due to common opponents.

Both Cinci and San Diego lost to Denver once, although SD beat Denver on the return trip. And the Bolts also lost to Baltimore, although the Bengals won against them one out of two times. I think there may be more to that too, but the wins over Baltimore and Denver would be the tiebreakers, if I understand the rules correctly. I ran through some scenarios at the Yahoo Sports “playoff scenario generator” (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario), and I found that a Jets win would also work for every situation I played with. While it’s most likely that Indy wins out anyway, losing to Denver opens the door to possibly falling to a 3-seed. It’s a heckuva long shot – Indy would have to drop all their games after Denver, and Cincinnati and San Diego would have to tie, or Cincy would have to run the table with Denver suddenly somehow winning the AFC West… well, the point is that there are a few long shot, but not mathematically impossible scenarios where the Colts could drop to a 3. But they all depend on Indy really screwing up big time and losing the last 4. It is more likely to drop to a 2 if Indy doesn’t take care of business, but really, the key is to win at least one of the remaining games to get the undisputed 1-seed. The reason Denver is highlighted, as far as I can tell, is that it’s an easy common opponent to figure out, plus it’s the very next game, and would give Indy the maximum flexibility to choose who to rest and how to play the remaining games.

Yeah, I too have changed my mind from my past years stances, and would like to see Indy rest their injured players.

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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Dec 11, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

two awesome answers

thank you, diagenesis and EMH. Appreciate it!

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Dec 11, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, I had that a little wrong. I looked again and see that as long as we beath either Denver or the Jets

we would win common opponents against Cincy, as they currently have two common opponents losses (Denver and Houston.) If our one win is against the Jags or the Bills, then we go the next tie breaker based on strength of victory (which was recently moved above strength of schedule.)

The strength of victory would be really close. That is the win/loss record of all the teams you’ve beaten. If Cincy beats Minn and SD that might push them over on that one.

by diagenesis on Dec 11, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow. I somehow generated a scenario where Indy and Cinci ties, but Indy gets the #2

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario?algorithm=custom&13=41510414&14=44504550&15=51000440&16=55541541

Indy had to win at Buffalo and lose Denver, Jac, and NYJ. Cinci had to run the table. Jets had to win every game save for against Cinci. And for some odd reason, Minnesota had to win over Carolina and the Giants (yes, I know they’re NFC. No, I don’t know why it matters, so don’t ask me why this is. You all look at the link and tell me, please, ‘cause I’m at a loss. Maybe I’ve uncovered a bug, or maybe the calculation is more complicated than I thought. The point is that it’s a criteria I adjusted, and I have no clue why it matters). Wow… I lost track of all the parameters I worked out, but this supports what diagenesis is saying: It’s not just winning any one of the last 4 games (like I had thought before I found that site). It’s winning one of the really common opponents, like Denver, the Jets, or Jacksonville. Those are the key games. Buffalo isn’t as critical. I’ve not ran through every single scenario, but I’ve started experimenting with really, really unlikely ones. But this all is just goofing off; the key, as everyone knows by now, is to beat Denver. Do that and the matter is settled, period.

Wow… that site is a serious, serious timesuck, I’m telllin’ ya. Rack up yet another hour of just mindlessly clicking along. =)

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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Dec 11, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe

minn’s wins affect cinci’s strength of victory?

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Dec 12, 2009 2:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Now that I've had a night's sleep on it, that would be my guess.

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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Dec 12, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

No prob dude.

And hey: That Yahoo link is one of the best timesucks ever! I wasted a lot of time at work spent a lot of time I shouldn’t have playing with the various scenarios I could come up with. Really, it’s a lot of fun!

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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Dec 11, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

You know, I probably shouldn't be admitting this on an open forum

… but man, I wasted a ton of time working out the scenarios alone, let alone seeing what’s been up with general sports news. I should’ve just taken a couple of days off. It’s not like I don’t have a bunch of time off to use.

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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Dec 11, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

That's why they invented night

So wheneveryone in my house is sleeping, I can get actual work done…. except now, for example. It’s midnight and I swear I will get back to work, as soon as I spend another few minutes on the Colts….

I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.

by Bobman on Dec 12, 2009 3:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Whoops! The link got borked

Here is it, corrected:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario

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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Dec 11, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Borked?

The senate didnt confirm it because it had a really heinous beard?

I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.

by Bobman on Dec 12, 2009 3:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Phbppppppt! :-P

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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Dec 12, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Toudouze and Richard will get snaps

Sounds like everyone will be playing hurt. Peyton could be in for a rough day. I thought Ugoh played well last week. Every snap where Diem is on the bench worries me a little though.

by naptown_ninja on Dec 12, 2009 9:12 AM EST reply actions  

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