Early speculation on who will not play against the Jaguars
by Brad Wells on Dec 14, 2009 2:56 PM EST
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PrintThere are no injury updates from yesterday. So, don't even bother asking. We likely won't get any injury meaningful information until Bill Polian's radio show later this evening on HANK FM (a local Indianapolis radio station that, for some reason that defies logic, does not stream the show live on their website).
However, if I know the Colts, there are certain players who you just know will not play based on their recent history of injury, including the nixes and bumps certain players received yesterday against the Broncos.
Likely out:
- Jerraud Powers (hamstring)
- Jacob Lacey (hurt in Broncos game)
- Charlie Johnson (foot)
- Robert Mathis (quad)
- Melvin Bullitt (shoulder)
- Chad Simpson (hurt in Broncos game)
- Dallas Clark (hurt in Broncos game)
- Ryan Diem (hamstring)
With so many injuries incurred in the secondary, do not be surprised if Simpson, Tom Santi, or Jacob Tamme are cut to make room for another DB, perhaps even Keiwan Ratliff. Right now, only Antoine Bethea, Jamie Silva, Tim Jennings, Kelvin Hayden, and T.J. Rushing are healthy enough to play in the secondary. Aaron Francisco has sat out the last couple of games with an ankle injury, but he is more a special teams guy than a coverage safety.
If Santi, Simpson, Tamme, or anyone else is cut, don't fret too much. I don't think players signed now to shore up depleted areas will make the playoff roster.
The situation at offensive tackle is also a bit worrisome. Both Charlie and Ryan are hurt, and absolutely need rest to recover from these nagging issues. This means Tony Ugoh and newly re-signed Michael Toudouze might play extensive snaps against the Jaguars.
Regarding Dwight Freeney, look for him to get used on third down only. His snaps will be limited. Other than Peyton Manning, the Colts absolutely cannot afford to lose Dwight Freeney for any length of time.
And then, of course, there is the situations involving Adam Vinatieri and Anthony Gonzalez. Both have been out for extensive periods of time, and if both are in line to play in the post-season, we need to see them start working again in live games. Basicallly, we need them healthy, like, NOW!
Also, Donald Brown better be back and healthy this week. With Joseph Addai nearly decapitated on several big hits by the Broncos yesterday, I would not be surprised to see him limited against the Jaguars. Addai has cared this running game all season, and now is the time for Donald Brown to prove why he was drafted in the first round.
[UPDATE]: Jerraud Powers' Facebook page gives us an update as to his status (Tip to Z.Pain):
“Just a lil hamstring strain…nothing to be concerned about folks, but we definitely wanted to be safe than sorry. The trainers and staff here are already doing a great job getting me back to 1000%. All your support and words of encouragement certainly does help and I thank everyone of you for following me during this first rookie season.”
Also, for those of you looking to listen to the Bill Polian Show, but don't live in the Indy area, Indcolt18 offers some alternatives:
I have an iPhone and I have a couple of radio apps that I use to listen to stations in Indiana( I live in Florida). One is Wunder Radio and the other is “Pocket Tunes”. I like pocket tunes the best and I use it to listen to Hank FM. Also, PT has a record feature so that I can save the shows if I want to listen to them later.
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I like the media narrative
“Colts will play everyone who isn’t injured”
Who’s injured? Everyone.
I say, fine. Keep those precious ACLs off the field. Momentum means sod-all in the playoffs. Just ask the 07 Pats (BTW, I STILL love that they lost. Two years later and it still feels so good).
I feel the exact same way right now BBS
Gonzo and AV need to be on the field right now. No more waiting around, if they cant go now, they have to be placed on IR, to make roster room for other players to take place of nicked up players. Normally Im a lot more patient than you when it comes to injuries, but because we are so close to playoff time and we need as many of our stars as healthy as possible, they must play immediately starting this week, practicing all week
I agree about AV, but
I’m willing to wait another week or two for Gonzo.
LACEY
I thought he played one hell of a game yesterday. that early third and short stop where they went for it the first time made me jump up and yell at the TV huge stop for the rookie. another great pick up by bill polian
by Thedreamthejohn on Dec 14, 2009 3:19 PM EST reply actions
Jennings
is the complete opposite
"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady
by BlueMark1821 on Dec 14, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
maybe
but who could really cover marshall yesterday? he was having a jesus christ game and there was nothing we could do.
by Thedreamthejohn on Dec 14, 2009 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
Having a Jesus Christ game
IN FRONT of Jennings.
"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady
by BlueMark1821 on Dec 14, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Bill polian show
I have an iPhone and I have a couple of radio apps that I use to listen to stations in Indiana( I live in Florida). One is Wunder Radio and the other is “Pocket Tunes”. I like pocket tunes the best and I use it to listen to Hank FM. Also, PT has a record feature so that I can save the shows if I want to listen to them later.
Guess who my favorite team is...
by Indcolt18 on Dec 14, 2009 3:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Thanks!
I’ll add this to the main body post in case people out of market want to listen to the show.
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I would like to see...
Some starters rest for the next couple of games and then play them for the last one or two regular season games. This would allow then to rest up, get healthy and still be sharp and ready for the playoffs. I don’t care about the undefeated record only a super bowl win. No one will remember the pats team that went undefeated an lost the super bowl
actually everyone remembers them
just for the wrong reasons
How can you not love a team that does this?
This is a message from Jerraud Powers on his Facebook Fan Page
“Just a lil hamstring strain…nothing to be concerned about folks, but we definitely wanted to be safe than sorry. The trainers and staff here are already doing a great job getting me back to 1000%. All your support and words of encouragement certainly does help and I thank everyone of you for following me during this first rookie season.”
by Z.Pain on Dec 14, 2009 3:28 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for update
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I would add to that list
Addai and Freeney
"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady
Eeeekkk!!!!
The Colts MUST beat the Jags on Thursday! If not, I’ll have to rely on Cleveland in Wk. 17! X-(
Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever.
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Ben doesn’t look for hits. They seem to come automatically…
Me, 12/07/09
by LV Steelers Fan on Dec 14, 2009 3:53 PM EST reply actions
Well first, you'd need to beat teams like Cleveland
:P
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Good call about Ratliff
I would really like it if they signed him to short term duty to finish out the season. If he plays well, I would also like it if they keep him on the playoff roster if possible (say, if AV is placed on IR or something).
Agree about AV and Gonzo. I am willing to wait another 1-2 weeks for Gonzo, but he should play in one meaningless game to get his legs under him so we don’t have another Marvin 07 debacle. As for AV, I don’t know what to think. Stover seems to be just as clutch as AV but misses fewer of the kicks that he should make all the time. I would rather they made a decision before the Jets game on AV so they can free up roster space if he can’t go.
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Manning, Wayne, Pierre, Collie, Lilja, Saturday, DeVan, all of the DTs and LBs, and Bethea should definitely all play.
"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."
good
according to Will Carrol Garçon was the next body that was going to get thrown in on D if someone else had gone down while Lacey and Powers were sidelined at the same time.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Dec 14, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
I was surprised too
I don’t think it was for long though. He also said Bethea was at CB (with Silva at S I assume) at that time, which I hadn’t noticed (I was on the stream though).
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Dec 14, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
I'll look at the Short Cut
which is on in an hour. I’ll watch it on the DVR later to find out just how many plays it was.
I’m going to miss Short Cuts when I get rid of Sunday Ticket. It’s awesome.
Creator and developer of the Winning Stats.
Brown, Gonzo and Vinny
I love these guys but I have to say that all three have backups who are getting it done. If we absolutely have to have more defenders, I would expect any or all of them to go on IR. Brown and Gonzo especially, if they can’t get back into the flow of the offense soon then what’s the point?
"The best defensive player is the sideline." - Trevor Pryce, on how to stop Peyton Manning
All three
could be big time weapons in the playoffs. They will not be IR’d. The point is to get them 100% healthy so they can provide an extra boost to an already excellent team come postseason.
"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning
oh and we probably will get some injury info before the Polian show
since the game is Thursday, even though the Colts aren’t practicing the Colts have to report a “practice estimation” of who would be sitting out if they did have practice today (with them having played yesterday I expect a massive list).
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
is up on the colts injury page
I think they list most of our starters as ‘estimated’ injury report… Freeney is the only one listed as rested..
An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less until they know everything about nothing...
posted now
Bethea was on as rested as well
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Dec 14, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
Clark will play
He was down for about 20 seconds, then jogged off the field on his own weight, came back and played the rest of the game and scored a TD. I don’t think he was “injured” at all, just shaken up a bit.
Addai I agree will play, but to a lesser extent than he has been. I think Hart will continue to get a handful of carries, deservingly so, and I would think Brown will be back this week, too.
Gonzo needs a couple of regular season games in him to get prepped for the playoffs, I think, but I don’t think Jax has to be one of them. If he doesn’t play against NY and/or Buffalo, I’m gonna wonder. Same with AV.
Right now, the team is pretty beat up (that includes EVERYONE) and the “to rest or play” debate is moot. When it comes to playing injured guys or getting them healthy for the playoffs, you do the obvious. If all were healthy, I could see the point of playing everyone, but no use stretching the rubber band out too far.
"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning
maybe the first Hank Baskett TD catch?
it will be fun to watch him drop 10, but in the endzone he can catch a jump ball easily
Gonzalez
I agree that if he is going to be on the playoff roster, he needs to get 20-25 regular season catches from Manning and not Painter if he is going to be of any help to the team. His injury is already approaching 2007 Marvin Harrison weirdness and as great a receiver as Harrison was his fumble in that game against the Chargers was uncharacteristic and wholly related to the Colts thinking he could be all rest and no rust. If they’re going to keep on rolling without Gonzo all the way till the playoffs, he needs to be IRed.
Fanshot posted with hank fm radio player
you can listen to the polian show online here on the blog ,look for my fanshot
espn linked to John Oesher's wrap up of quotes....
Evidently Woodyard tagged dallas in the gut with an elbow, knocking his wind out: held his breath, made the catch, and was emabarrassed about having to take a knee. These guys are so freaking tough…
by naptown_ninja on Dec 15, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
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