My First FanPost- Some Good Press and Friendly Office Banter
by Talon Cain on Dec 2, 2009 10:28 PM EST
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Some of you might have seen me pop up on a few of the open threads. I've been reading since the start of the season so I thought I'd jump in as occasionally I stumble across what I think is a good idea.
First off I was cruising the media, b/c as much as I don't care what they say . . . work can get a little slow, and I found this:
I get tired of all the media slamming us so I'll take an article saying:
Since then [Super Bowl XLI], Manning has stamped himself as arguably the game's most resourceful closer.
Because we all know Peyton is the definition of clutch.
Second, I was talking today with people in my office (a Giant fan, a Raiders fan, and a Jet fan) and the issue of Overtime came up. I hate Sudden Death (the Raider fan loves it and the Giants fan said "that's the way it's gonna be" and the Jet fan jetted as soon as the topic was broached).
For a game that will re-look and replace a spot inches based on multiple replay views, sudden death feels like luck. The argument that the better team lost a game normally feels absurd to me but not necessarily when it goes to Sudden Death. I was told that whoever wins the coin toss won the game 56% of the time (I haven't verified this number but I'm looking into it as I just got home). That's a 12% difference (56-44%) which means for a game decided by inches you're giving a huge advantage based on a 50-50 toss of a coin.
Rather than just complain I have a proposal:
I think that it should be drive vs drive. That is each team be take a kickoff and play until they score or are stopped. In the event of a tie they do it again. (As for a time requirement idk haven't thought that far :-) ). This forces all three phases of the team to play well without ever running into a great offense being beaten without taking the field in OT.
I also think this stops the "play for a field goal" mentality as it's no longer a guaranteed win. This also eliminates any more coin bias than there is at the start of that game. Makes OT more competitive as there is drive to get into the endzone, with fieldgoals being risky. But the defense would have to play all out to give the offense a chance to seal the game.
Anyway I'd love to hear all your comments and if I get good feedback I'll try to elaborate.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Stampede Blue's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Stampede Blue's writers or editors.
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Best I have heard is first to 6 points wins
so, either score a TD or 2 field goals.
EVH+DLR=BFFr........ God I Hope So!!
Interesting article
I wasn’t aware that the Colts are the least penalized team in the league
Welcome and thanks for posting, Talon Cain!
How can you not love a team that does this?
Overtime play
I think they should either have a jump ball at the 50 or give the Ref’s a double sided coin and let the Colt’s call it every time. Not that we will need to, of course…LOL
Vast majority of players and coaches like Sudden Death
The fans seem to not like it as much for whatever reason. I think most players and coaches think you should win in regulation if you don’t like the randomness and consequences of the coin toss.
"If you don't pick me, I'm gonna kick your a## for 15 years." Peyton Manning to Polian, prior to 1998 draft.
Only thing I would change
Is to either kickoff from the 35 or just start the receiving team on the 20 yard line. This way, if a block in the back or holding call is missed on the initial return, the team kicking off doesn’t get penalized with starting on defense from the 40 or at midfield and the receiving team actually has to earn it instead of just throwing up a hail mary down the sideline, getting a PI call and then kicking the FG right away.
If a team gets the ball and drives into FG range from the 20 yard line then they deserve to win.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
Leave it how it is.......
But then I am an old timer and traditionalist. You whipper snappers, wait till I die before you change everything.
Thats
Dudette!
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
Sorry, Ma'am
Shame on me for my lack of manners. I have to go eat a bar of soap now.
haha!
Funny you should mention… a friend of mine posted on FB yesterday that her 7-year-old said a bad word, to which she replied she would wash his mouth out with soap if she heard him say it again. Twenty minutes later she found him with soap in his mouth, for which he explained that he wanted to wash out before he said it again.
P.S. no need to apologize… I was just testing the limits of your phrase “old timer”
How can you not love a team that does this?
Overtime rules are the least we should be concerned with
when Roger Goodell is trying to expand the regular season to 18 games and play more games overseas. That will really change the NFL.
Keep the faith!
^^this
overtime is fine for now. I’m more concerned about closing up loopholes in rules and NOT expanding the season. 16-20 games (that count) is quite enough for the human body to handle.
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
It seems contradictory
If those “touching the passer” rules were put in place to keep the QBs (aka ‘faces of the NFL’) intact and playing, then why have extra games that increase chance of injury? (See ‘Ben Roethlisberger’) Those chances increase with the best teams in the leage, as they’re the ones playing a longer season already in the playoffs.
Keep the faith!
^^so right^^
Change it for the worse…
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Dec 3, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
I remember on some radio show
I think Colin Cowherd, that back when the ball was kicked from the 35, it was 50-50 – so a complete wash. What changed everything was pushing kickoffs back 10 yards(can’t remember what year). So there’s your answer, the losing team gets to kickoff from the 35, and then continue sudden death rules as normal. Nothing to see here…
I also wish I had time and motivation to blog at Speed Blue Nation
i used to be more upset about the overtime rules but I think they're fine
It makes sense to think that the 56% thing is an issue, but the thing is you’ve already had 60 minute to win the game. The more I think I about it, the less sympathy I have for this issue. And even if you lose the toss, your defense has plenty of opportunity to stop the team.
No sympathy. If you can’t win a game in 60 minutes, you deserve your fate to be left somewhat to chance.
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
Exactly.
Your team is entitled to nothing when you can’t win a game in the allotted time.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: What should you do if a hot dog vendor gives you a free hot dog? Why, throw it on the ground, of course.
Losing the OT coin toss
But the other team didn’t win in regulation either, so why should they get the benefit of chance? I’d rather the game be decided by the caliber of the teams playing rather than by the odds of a coin toss. A game ending in a tie in regulation doesn’t necessarily mean that one or both of the teams suck too much to win in the allotted time — they could just be very evenly matched.
Yeah...
But what about the poor bastards who have money on the game?
by peytonsurdaddy on Dec 5, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
Then they have other problems....
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: In England, the Speaker of the House is not allowed to speak.
There is still an overtime advantage with the college method or similar methods.
The team that goes second gets a strong advantage. The first team doesn’t know if the second team will score a TD, settle for a FG, or get nothing. They may play differently on fourth and short on the twenty if they knew whether three points was enough or not. Team two knows what has to happen. They kick the winning field goal, or they go for it according to the first series. That is a strong advantage. As G I Joe used to say, “Knowing is half the battle!”
Hey, perhaps they could get two parallel fields for overtime. The one offense plays the other defense on the one field while the one defense tries to stop the other offense on the other field. No one knows what the other is doing, so there is no advantages at all for either team. This is genius! Now, we just have to get every owner to build an adjoining field to their current one…..
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