Vinatieri plans to play this weekend; Gonzalez might be done for 2009
Despite a season which has featured several young and talented players stepping up and making significant contributions in the face of veteran players going down with injury, for a team making a playoff run it is vital that all hands back on deck. For much of this season, future Hall of Fame kicker Adam Vinatieri and budding wide receiver Anthony Gonzalez have been on the shelf. Gonzo strained a knee tendon in Week One against the Jaguars, and after a set-up during rehab, he had surgery to scope the knee. Vinatieri, meanwhile, had been bothered by hip and knee problems. He had hip surgery this off-season, and during the season this year had the knee scoped.
This week, both men returned to practice, but the progress for both seems to be going in opposite directions.
According to John Oehser, via Twitter, Adam Vinatieri will play this weekend against the Jets. Because of the uncertainty of Vinaiteri's knee, the Colts will likely hold onto Matt Stover, the veteran kicker who the Colts signed while Vinatieri was on the mend. Stover has played extremely well in Vinaiteri's absence. While teams like the Cowboys, Redskins, and even Stover's former team, the Ravens, have struggled with kickers this season, the Colts have been able to sally forth sans Vinatieri mainly because Stover (at age 41) is still a clutch field goal kicker.
However, having Stover on the team is a bit of a double-edged sword.
The Colts have not seen Vinatieri make a clutch kick in several months. Will his knee hold up moving into January? Does he still have the range and distance to kick 50+ yard FGs to win games, as we saw him do last year? And, if Matt Stover is released, he will most certainly get scooped up by another team vying for playoff position. A team like the Ravens, Cowboys, or maybe even the Jets will certainly be interested in Stover.
It is not out of the realm of possibility that the Colts could keep both kickers on the playoff roster. With so much uncertainty surrounding the health of Vinatieri, and with Gonzo's season looking more and more like it is done (explained later in this article), keeping three kickers while heading into post-season play is not that bad of an idea.
The pro of keeping Vinatieri and Stover on the roster is you guarantee the Colts will not see Stover again this off-season kicking for an opponent. Plus, just from a sentimental point of view, Stover deserves to stay on this roster. His performance, and the leadership he has shown, have made his signing one of the under-the-radar feats of genius we are so accustomed to seeing from Bill Polian. He is well-liked and respected by the team, and he is also well-liked and respected by Vinatieri.
If there are still lingering doubts about Vinatieri's durability, the Colts could keep Stover and have him kick FGs of 45 yards or less. Stover has struggled kicking FGs over 45 yards in recent years while Vinatieri has not, especially in pressure situations. Also, if (heaven forbid) something were to happen to Pat McAfee, the Colts would not only be without a punter, they'd be without a kick-off specialist. Asking a 41-year-old player to kick-off and make FGs is a bit too much. So, keeping Vinatieri as a back-up for kick-off duties makes sense as well. Plus, in a pinch, Vinatieri could punt.
The only con I can think of is that people might get a little squirmy about using three roster spots for kickers. My response to that is the Colts have kept three roster spots for kickers all season, and they are currently 14-0. If it worked to get you this far, why alter things?
While the kicking situation seems reasonably sturdy, the situation with Anthony Gonzalez is anything but. All season long, Gonzo has worked and fought to get himself healthy. According to PhilB at the Indy Star, this is the week Gonzo needed to prove he was ready to play again. He practiced some on Monday, but it was the Wednesday practice that would likely determine how healthy he is.
On Wednesday, Gonzo didn't practice... like, at all. He also didn't talk to the media about it. Not good.
As most know, Gonzo didn't practice on Wednesday. He participated Monday, but that was a light workout. I cautioned in the chat that we would know more on Wednesday. And I think we do. That he didn't practice Wednesday is obviously not a good sign. Colts coach Jim Caldwell, when asked yesterday about Gonzalez, said, "Today, we'll see, but his road hasn't been an easy one." That is also obviously not promising.I thought it odd at the time, after Gonzalez went down early in the season opener, Polian came out on his radio show and referred to the wide receiver as a "slow healer." I can't help but think this ticked Gonzo off.
Some could say his inability to return would back up Polian's position.
The "slow healer" tag Polian seemingly tossed on Gonzo is not something I remember from one of his radio shows this year. Anyone else hear about that?
Regardless of such an odd remark from Polian (especially since Gonzo sleeps in a friggin oxygen tent to accelerate healing), the fact of the matter is Gonzo must play against the Jets, or the Colts will likely IR him. It's certainly not fun to see one of my favorite players (and a guy who has averaged 13.2 yards a catch in his career thus far) struggle to get back on the field, but Gonzo needs at least two full games of real contact football before we can determine that he is playoff ready. We've been saying this for weeks, but I'm glad PhilB said it as well:
Nobody wants to see another Marvin Harrison-like playoff moment, when the injured receiver tried to make more out of a long gain against San Diego, with the Colts ahead 7-0 and seemingly driving in for another score, only to have the WR fumble away the scoring chance at the end of his run two years ago. Everybody remembers that well.
Based on the statements PhilB quotes from Jim Caldwell, for me the situation reads that if Gonzo is unable to play against the Jets, he will be IRed. I'd rather have that than have to deal with the uncertainty of Gonzo's health heading into the post-season. Also, factor in that Pierre Garçon and Austin Collie have developed into excellent wide outs in Gonzo's absence, and Hank Baskett (who plays mostly on special teams) is certainly no slouch either.
I hope Gonzo is able to get into another practice and hopefully suit up for the Jets game. However, if he doesn't, his 2009 season should be over. As I said with the Bob Sanders situation, the distraction of "will he, won't he" when it comes to playing while returning from an injury can often adversely affect a football team. Sometimes it is better to set a deadline for recovery, and if the player cannot meet that deadline, IR him and move on.
I think that is what Indy will do with Gonzo this year, but I still hold out some hope he will return soon.
[UPDATE]: Colts put Gonzo on IR. Tough to see happen, but glad it was handled quickly. --bbs
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the matt stover song
sucks, but it’s hilarious anyway… could only be funnier if former colt hunter smith’s christian schlock band recorded it
I was at the JAX season opener...
and listened to the Polian interview after the game. I do remember him saying something about Gonzo being a “slow-healer” during that interview and not wanting to do anything to jeopardize his career long term. I thought it odd at the time because it seemed quick to come out and say something like that.
My opinion is that 2 games may not even be enough for Gonzo to get back into game shape. I don’t want the Colts to slow down the no-huddle and allow more defensive subs because we are having to sub Gonzo in and out. I think that is a big advantage for our offense and don’t want to see us diminish that at all.
As much as it pains me to say, he needs to be on IR and we need to carry all three kickers for sure. Just one man’s opinion though.
This whole Gonzo thing...
really pisses me off. It seems like every year the Colts go through this with a player. First it is a couple weeks…then a little longer…then hopefully before the playoffs…then (as now) maybe IRed!!! Total BS. Gonzo should have been shelved weeks ago. The team is making a mistake with this type of situation every year and I am frustrated. We are 14-0 without Gonzo…enough said!!
"If me and King Kong went into an alley, only one of us would come out. And it wouldn't be the monkey."
"I don't really trust a sane person."
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That's such BS
The Colts should have kept him on the roster if there was a possibility of returning. People heal differently and at different schedules. There is no way to put a rubber stamp on someone and say they for sure will heal at this rate or have no setbacks on returning. For every Gonzo (who seems to have had a couple setbacks during his attempts at returning) there is a Dallas Clark or Jeff Saturday who heal and return faster than the original diagnosis predicts. The Colts did not make a mistake if they thought Gonzo could return this year.
You are full of BS...
keep him on the roster…bull shit!! This happens every year. EVERY YEAR. Sorry for you, but you are wrong. Yea, Gonzo is gonna contribute…maybe next season!!
"If me and King Kong went into an alley, only one of us would come out. And it wouldn't be the monkey."
"I don't really trust a sane person."
"I never met a man I didn't want to fight." The one and only Lyle Alzado
It must be cool . . .
to know more about managing a football team than Bill Polian.
The Shogun of Harlem
Oh my god TR Dean you are right! We could have used that roster spot he cost us on…. some player in the league that NO ONE ELSE WANTED FOR 15 WEEKS.
. Polian is an idiot for thinking that a healthy gonzalez would be better for the team than one of those elite free agents that no one else wants. FIRE POLIAN
shakes head in sadness
I understand where TRDean is coming from, and name calling on both sides shouldn't be used
I find BP’s comments strange as BBS pointed out Gonzo sleeps in a chamber that is suppose to help speed up the process of healing. It also really sucks that this is the 2nd year where we had one of our elite receivers injured in the beginning of the season and us fans were pulled along for a ride of “will he or won’t he” and so that sucks.
Come on mannnnn....
I have been listening to you guys clamer for players all season…now in the other thread its “lets bring back Edge”.
By the way, I find it impossible to believe the team didn’t know Gonzo would not be playing weeks ago!! He still can’t even practice for crying out loud!!
For what its worth…we could have gotten somebody to play that may have contributed…secondary, special teams, heck bring Howard back.
"If me and King Kong went into an alley, only one of us would come out. And it wouldn't be the monkey."
"I don't really trust a sane person."
"I never met a man I didn't want to fight." The one and only Lyle Alzado
In 2006 Bob hardly played at all
in the regular season. Then he made he came back for the playoffs, and bolstered our previously pathetic run defense. We then rode that defense to a super bowl title. So how, outside of psychic ability, is BP supposed to tell the difference between a player that can’t quite make it back at the end of the season, and a player that is going to return for the playoffs and save the team?
Anyone who has a problem with Joseph should stop watching Colts football. It's unfair to expect a back to replace Edge, and Addai has been excellent in all areas when he is healthy.
by DontHateAddai on Dec 24, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Its a little beyond...
can’t quite come back..he can’t even do a simple easy practice. He would still be out when the Colts play in the Super Bowl.
"If me and King Kong went into an alley, only one of us would come out. And it wouldn't be the monkey."
"I don't really trust a sane person."
"I never met a man I didn't want to fight." The one and only Lyle Alzado
Polian
I do remember Polian calling Gonzo a “slow healer.” But I can also see why they would keep someone on the roster towards the end of the season in hopes that they can come back at the end of the year and for the playoffs. I realize it’s not nearly as long as Gonzo’s time off, but didn’t Clark hurt his knee and nobody knew if he was going to be able to get healed by the end of the season? But he did, and was one of the players that carried us in the Super Bowl.
The difference here is...
GONZO got hurt in the first week!! We have been carrying him for the entire season!! Don’t tell me the medical staff didn’t know weeks ago that he was most likely done…I don’t believe it. And if they didn’t know…they are the worst medical staff in the NFL!!!
"If me and King Kong went into an alley, only one of us would come out. And it wouldn't be the monkey."
"I don't really trust a sane person."
"I never met a man I didn't want to fight." The one and only Lyle Alzado
And if they didn’t know…they are the worst medical staff in the NFL!!!
This is something I argued in my Dr. Blue series, but I overall think Caldwell has managed this area better than Dungy did when it comes to resting players and not playing them at 60-70%.
With Gonzo, however, I feel that everyone has been hoping he could recover, rather than recognizing he is done. His injury sounds like Lilja’s from last year, and I think Lilja ended up needing microfracture surgery.
How can you not love a team that does this?
Lovin Blue...
what exactly is microfracture surgery? Thanks.
"If me and King Kong went into an alley, only one of us would come out. And it wouldn't be the monkey."
"I don't really trust a sane person."
"I never met a man I didn't want to fight." The one and only Lyle Alzado
My understanding
is that it involves fracturing the bone underneath the damaged cartilege, causing new cartilege to develop and fill in the fractures. It seems to be used only with professional athletes, despite its success (I think about old people who often need knee replacements, or those of us who take glucosamine to try to improve the cartilege we have).
try: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microfracture_surgery
How can you not love a team that does this?
I agree that keeping someone for possible return is a good idea
Depth in the NFL lasts only until the injuries begin to pile up, then the 3rd and 4th man can quickly become the starters. In the event that Gonzo could return to game shape it made sense, but a guy who can’t make it through a half practice just a bit over 3 weeks before a playoff game, where the speed and violence ratchets up another notch, is not a good sign.
The guy hasn’t run at near game pace and duration for 15 weeks. His body can’t possibly be up to the pounding these other guys have grown accustomed to over the past nearly 4 months. Marvin could run okay when he came back, but the hit he took to jar that ball loose probably wouldn’t have done the same thing were he used to the shots and swipes he’d take if he were game hardened for a month leading up to a playoff game.
Also, guys that miss time then try coming back mid-stream don’t seem to do well coming in midstream, ie Lilja last year off PUP, Bob this year, Marvin 2 years ago, Gonzo this year. I say let the guy heal, rescope if needed. It may just take the offseason to get things right – thankfully he’s young and his healing potential is good.
"Waiting for Gonzo", the movie.LOL
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Thanks
Updated the article.
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