What do the Colts do with Gonzo on IR?
by Bullard47 on Dec 24, 2009 1:00 PM EST
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PrintI don't have a lot of time to research this, so I'm going to throw out a few suggestions for what the Colts should do now that they have placed WR Anthony Gonzalez on the Injured Reserve. It is obvious that the Colts have been just fine without this roster spot being utilized, but it is small moves like this that solidify a team heading into the postseason.
The question is, do the Colts look to elevate a player from the practice squad, or do they look outside the organization for a contributor? There are very few players out there seem to make much sense for the Colts to sign. I know that many people say that we should go get Keiwan Ratliff due to his outstanding play in a few games for the Colts last year(namely the Steelers game, where he played lights out). I also know that most fans are just dying for someone, anyone, to leapfrog Tim Jennings on the depth chart.
But, at the end of the day, does a Ratliff signing ensure that this happens? Probably not. The Colts coaching staff obviously like what they have in Jennings. He general keeps his man in front of him and does not allow yards after the catch do to sure tackling and good closing speed. He just doesn't have the instincts and cover technique to use that speed to make a play on the enough. He is also usually just plain out-sized by the receivers he covers. Ratliff doesn't offer a whole lot more than this, and has no time in Larry Coyer's new defensive scheme. One thing you could argue is that Ratliff will not be expected to perform at a high level for almost a month, and in theory should be able to absorb the changes rather quickly. And, of course, he may be one of those players - like Clint Session and Gary Brackett - who thrive in this system.
Considering that, my best suggestion would be to elevate one of three players to the active roster. Those three are:
- WR Samuel Giguere #14 - A tough, physically imposing receiver that has not got time due to his need to adjust from the Canadian game to the American game.
- WR Taj Smith #10 - A quick, shifty receiver with soft hands that showed a lot of ability in the preseason and camp. Might also be a possible return man.
- DB Terrail Lambert - Dime and Quarter packages might be more common in the playoffs, and I don't know how much the Colts trust Francisco or TJ Rushing to step on the field and defend in crunch time. Haven't seen much info on this guy, but he's on the PS for a reason
Post your thoughts on what should happen below.
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My 2 cents
as stated before, cut Ervin Baldwin and bring in Garcia for a vet QB and use Gonzo’s spot to bring back Edge. The guy has a Colts Super Bowl ring, but how much better would it be if he could earn one with us? The guy played a major role in helping build the Franchise into the Power House it is now. He a fan favorite. I think they need to bring him in and give Hart a new number, let Edge wear his 32 with pride and then he can retire along with his number after the season, if he so chooses. God I want him back so bad.
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
Taj
I want them to activate Taj. He was great in preseason not just on offense but also on special teams.
Lambert was a cornerback for Notre Dame. He wasn’t great but he was servicable. He did win the 2006 MSU game with his 2 interceptions, one being returned for the game-winning TD, so I like him for that.
Edgerrin would be a sentimental roster spot, and I don’t know if they should be doing that at this moment. They need to focus on winning a Super Bowl.
"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."
They could bring Edge back...
fro the last game of the season so he could retire as a Colt. That would still be awesome.
Pressure is somethig you feel when you don't know what you're doing!
-Chuck Knoll, as quoted by Peyton Manning
One thing
About bringing up a receiver. Haven’t they gotten by with just 5 receivers on the roster? Why bring up another one? Ratliff would be a great choice.
"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."
they have
Garcon, Collie, Wayne, Baskett, and Hall. So yes they have 5 already. Baskett and Hall are sufficient to give the starters some rest. Depth in the back field would be something I think we should look at more. But who knows. I think Baldwin needs to go. He was brought in to back up Mathis and Freeney, but they are fine now so he needs to go to free up a spot to bring someone else in that we can use. Dawson (if healthy) is a fine DE back up
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Hall was Injured/Waived
So, no, they don’t have him.
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He's
on the NFL.com roster
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
There's already an open spot now that Gonzo is IR'd and Hall is already gone...
So now you want us to come up with 2 guys to add to the roster? Geesh, this is getting complicated. Okay then, Ratliff and Garcia.
by peytonsurdaddy on Dec 24, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Hall was waived
Like, before the season started. So I have no idea why he is on the roster. Are you sure you aren’t thinking of De’von Hall, the DB who IS on the roster right now?
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Reply FAIL
Sorry, talking to coltsfan723
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Whats new? lol
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
Keep it up
I’m off to work. Yes, on Christmas frickin Eve. Happy Holidays all!
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Heres what it says
83 Hall, Roy WR RES 6’3" 240 12/8/1983 3 Ohio State
I thought he was waived to. Ill check Colts.com
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
I always go
Off the Colts.com roster…and it is a little behind today.
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Ok
he’s not on Colts.com so NFL is wrong. Surprise, surprise. I thought he was gone, but when I saw that I second guess myself. So they have 4 WR which is still fine and has done great thus far. Don’t fix what ain’t broken
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True
But if you have the roster spot and not any other weaknesses, you sign the best player off your PS I say. And I’m going to say that would be Taj Smith. Though for some reason I want Sam Giguere to do well.
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He may be
The only French Canadian I root for in my whole life.
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the RES for his status means injured reserve.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Dec 24, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
I would love to see Edge back
So he can try to win a superbowl with us and hoist the Lombardi Trophy. You know, the more I think about it, the less far fetched it seems. The guy isn’t the dominant force he used to be, but we know that he keeps himself in great physical shape. The Colts have a stable of fairly young backs so he could also be used as a player to further develop them. He knows the system, so the learning curve wont be a problem. If the Colts bought in Deuce (cant remember his last name), why not Edge?
Have 5 RBs on the active roster though?
That seems like a stretch. Though I love the sentimentality of it.
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Simpson
doesn’t see enough time at RB to really use him as a RB. Let him focus on running back the kickoffs like he did against the Glitterkitties. Although I do like what I have seen from him at RB
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
Bring in Edge...
And put Addai at WR. Could work?
Pressure is somethig you feel when you don't know what you're doing!
-Chuck Knoll, as quoted by Peyton Manning
Edge
brings great vet experience to a young RB corps. Addai is a vet, but he doesn’t have Edge’s experience. Edge mentored Addai and actually still helps him from time time I believe. So Edge would be a great teacher for these guys. Plus he knows the playbook. He may need to get caught up on the “words” Peyton uses to audible, but that shouldn’t be too much to handle for him. I think it would be a smart move, but it wouldn’t hurt them to not sign him either. I would love to see it though
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
The bottom line...
We don’t need another active WR on the roster. We’ve been playing all season with the ones we’ve got and rarely even get into situations where we see Baskett-the-Backup. The only reason to bring up another WR would be because one of our actives get injured.
I agree that we may need to bolster the QB spot since we are basically rolling with only one backup. It would be nice to have a veteran you could count on like Jeff Garcia, but I wonder if he could be brought up to speed quickly enough to make a difference.
Which leaves the cornerback position. Everyone agrees that we’re looking a little thin there this season and we could use some bolstering now that Powers is questionable with the hamstring injury. This is that point in the NFL season where rookies start to wear down because of the lack of experience at playing this intensely for the extra games than they did in college, and a hamstring injury for a guy who’s supposed to be covering the fastest WR’s in the league is nothing to bat an eye at.
I don’t know about you but it scares the crap out of me thinking of Jennings starting at corner and TJ Rushing being the backup.
GET RATLIFF!
I vote
Ratliff or Garcia
I love the idea of having Edge back, but I don’t know that he would bring that we don’t already have relative to what we could get at another position.
How can you not love a team that does this?
Sorry about your boys LB
They looked good in the beginning, I don’t know what happened. :-(
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yeah
I was hopeful for a little while, but then Bad Riley showed up to play. It was sort of microcosm of the entire season. It would be nice if Tedford used the opportunity to actually have a QB competition over the summer, but he’s loyal to a fault, so we will probably get another year of Mr. Inconsistent
How can you not love a team that does this?
We have the best problem
a team could have. We have open spots that we really don’t need to fill lol. But I’d say if we really don’t need to fill a spot, then what would it hurt to bring Edge in? That’s what this team is all about. It would be beyond classy to bring him back, get him a ring and retire his number and he retires a Colt.
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
You could say the same thing about Marvin then.
by peytonsurdaddy on Dec 24, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Polian said
in his radio show 2 weeks ago that when Marvin’s ready to retire, the Colts will sign him and retire him as a Colt and retire his number. If he plays for another team or not.
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Damn
I am having this high right now, where I don’t think ANYTHING can stop this team from going to the Super Bowl. Homefield advantage, crowd will be INSANE. All healthy players. This team has a feeling about it. I feel like in the playoffs, this team is gonna find an extra gear and just run away with it. I can’t say I have had this feeling before.
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
Via Colts Rapid Reports
Colts coach Jim Caldwell said the team hasn’t yet determined what it will do with the roster spot formerly held by WR Anthony Gonzalez. Caldwell said it won’t necessarily be a WR.
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
Also
I think Gonzo had a say in him being put on IR
Caldwell:
"He was never able to get up a level where he was confident he would be able to perform to what he would consider to be an acceptable level."
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
Takin' one for the team.
He didn’t want to Marvin ’em.
by peytonsurdaddy on Dec 24, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Good Call
I was reading that article on espn about bringing back Marv(gonzo), the Colts were on their way to go up 14-0 against the Chargers and Marvin caught a pass and fumbled. It was a game turner. I knew it too….I hung my head in shame as I have loved marv too
The lone Thunder Fan from North Dakota...
That was
Actually in the Playoffs in 2007. But you could also blame Kenton Keith for his lack of ability to catch a three yard pass for that loss too. Or Ron Meeks inability to change his game plan at all to make up for the lack of pass rush generated without Freeney or a healthy Mathis.
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I would want them to sign the best player available.
Merry Christmas to everyone. Hope it’s a lovely one!
Brown
looks like a go for Sunday. Caldwell says he came out of the practice session fine. So my guess is he will see a lot of time Sunday. He’s been out 3 games. Its time to start getting him ready for the playoffs.
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Quarter package?
Don’t you mean a nickel package (5 DB’s)?
Oh, and I have no clue who the Colts will sign. Nothing would surprise me at this point.
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Quarter package.
In the quarter package, the defense will pull another fat guy off the field, likely a tackle, and replace him with a seventh defensive back. In a quarter package it’s a near certainty that the offense can successfully run the ball for four to eight yards per carry. So you would only use this package when you would be happy for the offense to run the ball a lot, for example when there is very little time left in the game and you are winning by 17 or more points. The quarter package is used to prevent quick scores and make the offense waste a lot of time.
by peytonsurdaddy on Dec 24, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
It goes...
Nickel- 5 DB’s
Dime- 6 DB’s
Quarter- 7 DB’s
by peytonsurdaddy on Dec 24, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmm...
It’s been used so little I had never heard of it before.
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love running hail marys back for cheap pre-halftime points or to run up to score
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by shake n bake on Dec 24, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
Dominic ....
As a return man, so simpson can play more RB ,when Brown gets hurt again ,i think he is fragile. Also could help addai with the pass blocks.
I think a vet QB makes the most sense
With Garcia, we would still have a shot at the SB if Peyton were to get injured
Honestly....
If Peyton Goes down, so do the Colts. The good news however is that Peyton NEVER goes down.
"You play to WIN the GAME"
You had better be knockin' on would, jinx.
by peytonsurdaddy on Dec 25, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
It's hard to knock on a concept
But he might try knocking on wood though
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Maybe they're going to fill the WR spot
with a surprise Marv signing
How can you not love a team that does this?
Taj Smith or Giguere?
Now that Garcon has been ruled out for Sunday, which practice squadder would you prefer be promoted?
Pencil me in for Smith
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