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Quick Recap: Jets 29 - Colts 15; we're not booing you Curtis Painter

Welcome to Colts football, where it is a-okay to quit on a football game for no damn reason whatsoever other than fear.

For a team and an organization that prides itself in "playing the right way," here is the message they just sent to tiny Colts fans everywhere (from SpazMo in the comments):

I gotta go wake my kids up and teach them one of lifes most important lessons: ITS OKAY TO QUIT.

This game made me, and a lot of other Colts fans, sick. With a Colts offense seemingly dominating the Jets defense heading into the third quarter, and leading 15-10, Jim Caldwell may well have made the poorest decision we have ever seen in Colts history. After the Colts scored a TD to regain the lead, and after their defense stopped the Jets, forcing a punt, Caldwell decided to pull quarterback Peyton Manning for rookie Curtis Painter. The move elicited a strong wave of boos from the Colts faithful in the Lucas Oil Stadium stands.

During Painter's second series, after a horrible three-and-out, he was sacked by Calvin Pace, forcing a fumble. The Jets recovered the fumble in the endzone for a TD. Down rained more boos as the camera zoomed in on a Colts head coach who not only blew a chance to go undefeated, but might have lost his locker room in the process.

After Manning was pulled, Caldwell started pulling more starters. Gary Brackett, Reggie Wayne, Dwight Freeney, and others were pulled. On the sideline, a very animated Peyton Manning continued to lobby the coaches to return, but they refused to let him back in. From the third quarter onward, the Colts (with backs-up in the game) were outscored 26-0. The tragic figure in all this is rookie Curtis Painter. Every time he stepped on the field, the crowd booed. The reality is they were not booing at Painter.

They were booing Caldwell, and by extension, the coward that is Bill Polian. Yes, I said it. It is cowardly to sit players in a situation like the Colts did against the Jets. 18to88 sums it up perfectly:

Jim Caldwell is a brave man.  He just promised Colts fans everywhere that the 2009 Colts are going to win the Super Bowl.  And woe unto him if he doesn't fulfill that promise.  Unfair on our part?  Yes.  Caldwell was just doing what he thought was best for his team.  Unwise on his part?  Yes, I think it was terribly unwise.

What we saw today at Lucas Oil Stadium was political suicide.  Fans aren't fair.  Fans aren't rational.  Fans don't care if you start your head coaching career 14-0.  In Indianapolis that generates less goodwill than you might think... especially when you willfully throw away a chance at a perfect 19-0 season.

Basically, Caldwell's decision was a gigantic middle finger to the fans.

I feel so sorry for the thousands of fans who braved a near-blizzard in Indianapolis only to see their coach and management throw a game this team should have won. On the sidelines, players from all sides of the ball looked dejected, frustrated, and upset. I don't think a decision like Caldwell's is one that instills trust in the players. Caldwell may very well have lost his locker room with that decision.

We've all seen some horrible loses as Colts fans. This one might be the worst of all. Jim Caldwell and Bill Polian will get absolutely roasted by the press after this game, and they should. They might have lost the faith of their players, and they certainly have lost the faith of the Colts fans. Just an awful, cowardly, bone-headed decision by the Colts. I'm actually somewhat ashamed to be a fan of this team right now.

The reality of Caldwell's decision is, right now, I can't tell people that the Colts play to win, because they don't. Look for the Colts coaching and management to go in full lock down mode, shutting out all the people who are (rightly) bashing them. Eyes covered. Hears covered. Mouth shut. Whatever. During this game, I lost a lot of faith in the Colts, and I know a lot of other fans did too.

Boo Jim Caldwell. Boo Bill Polian. Boo. Boo. Boo.

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My take

is that Caldwell/Polian decided to intentionally throw away the game to get the players angry. Remind them how much it sucks to lose.

by UnofficialPants on Dec 27, 2009 7:15 PM EST reply actions  

Please

They already know how much it sucks to lose because they haven’t won every game in their entire history. This team does NOT need a lesson in humility. The disgrace here is forcing them to learn how much it sucks to lose FOR NO REASON.

by TerriH on Dec 27, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

CALDWELL

by LBizZLE on Dec 27, 2009 7:15 PM EST reply actions  

No matter what happens now, it will be traced back to this game if the Colts don't win the SB

And Caldwell just made the criticism he will recieve that much worse when that time comes

by LBizZLE on Dec 27, 2009 7:16 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

in one game you

a) demoralize your starters

b) enrage your fanbase

c) kill the confidence of your rookie QB

d) get boo’ed out of your stadium

e) set yourself up to be killed by the national media

all off of 1 decision, how quick and horribly things can turn

by LBizZLE on Dec 27, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

f) ruin your chance at making history

by ColtsUK on Dec 27, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

that really doesnt matter

its the look on peyton’s face and the other players that tells me that if we dont win it all we can surely trace it back to that moment.

we could have played our guts out and lost and it would have been ok.

by bob-log sandtits on Dec 27, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

BBS

the Jets are going to the playoffs cuz Bengals will rest no need to win next week we gave the pass to this team , what would happen if the Jets eliminate the Colts in the Playoffs?

by thebossuzzi on Dec 27, 2009 7:17 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

In that scenario

Both Polian and Caldwell should be fired.

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by Brad Wells on Dec 27, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Jets would probably have to beat the Pats

to even play the Colts

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Dec 27, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

The Jets are the kind of team you don't want in the playoffs

They run the football and play good defense. The Colts had a chance to eliminate them and chose not to (much to many other teams’ chagrin).

Hope it doesn’t come back to bite you guys in the rear end, but it’s a shame to see someone say “No thank you” to history.

by TexansDC on Dec 27, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

They have Sanchez though.

Sanchez! Plus – I don’t trust them beating NE or whomever they play if they make it.

by Gwen on Dec 27, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

They won't

Don’t worry. They fucking won’t.

"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."

by Colts Homer on Dec 27, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Hit it right on the head

Pathetic decision. Absolutely pathetic

by ColtsUK on Dec 27, 2009 7:18 PM EST reply actions  

when the colts won their superbowl in 2006

they played all the way through,,, all the times they rested their starters early, they did not. i’m sorry but history is not on the colts side.

by lololol on Dec 27, 2009 7:18 PM EST reply actions  

Which is exactly why

Im fed up of this ’ BUT POLIAN SAYS MOMENTUM DOESNT MATTER’ bullshit

by ColtsUK on Dec 27, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Polian's an idiot.

That’s why Peyton and the boys only have one superbowl when they should have 4 or so. Polian’s a master at destroying momentum.

by Ayrshire on Dec 27, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

For just once I would love to have a coach

with the killer instinct for every game. We have the talent. The talent just isn’t allowed to accomplish what it’s capable of. That’s a fucking disgrace.

by Ayrshire on Dec 27, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

that slob wouldn't know the first thing about momentum.

Would like to know if Polian has ever been a professional player of any kind.

by soforizo on Dec 27, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

Polian is a coward.

"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady

by BlueMark1821 on Dec 27, 2009 7:19 PM EST reply actions  

Sad day in Indy

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Dec 27, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

I'm so disgusted with the Colts coaching and leaders.

They players are great. Let me repeat that……the players are great! The coaches intervention totally screwed up a historic opportunity for them. How fucking pathetic! To intentionally throw a game is inexcusable. Even if they win the superbowl, they intentionally lost a major opportunity tonight to go down as the greatest. Everyone at the sports bar I was in in Tampa booed the coaches of the Colts. I’ve lost respect in Polian and Caldwell forever. What a couple of buffoons. This day will go down as one of my worst memories of Colts games. Someone needs to tell Caldwell to grow a pair!

by Ayrshire on Dec 27, 2009 7:21 PM EST reply actions  

You know...

I buy tickets to games and spend a lot of Colts merchendise, but that’s in the past. Why should I spend money on a team that just spit on me by phoning one in when they could have been the best of all time?

by ThanksALot on Dec 27, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

so, do they bother trying next week at all?

from caldwell’s perspective, they already have clinched the bye, right, sooo, why even start anyone at all? Heck they could forfeit the game and not even have to travel.

May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.

by juperee on Dec 27, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Now i know why the MSM dont respect the Colts and why they dont get excited about us

There was no pressure at all for this team to make history , but know the pressure is on Polian to prove this was the right call, now he have to prove that momentum doesnt exist

by thebossuzzi on Dec 27, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

  If it’s so dangerous out there for the first team offensive skill position guys, they why were they out there at all? If they had played one series and then sat down for the rest of the game, I wouldn’t agree with it, but I would understand it. But playing well into the third quarter, and then sitting down, when one more TD drive would have sealed the game? It’s astounding.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Dec 27, 2009 7:23 PM EST reply actions  

chumps

colts are chumps,theres no f_in way there going to win one game in the playoffs with the bigest chump coaches in football

by daver 918 on Dec 27, 2009 7:23 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

This is fun guys

but I gotta go wake my kids up and teach them one of lifes most important lessons: ITS OKAY TO QUIT.

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Dec 27, 2009 7:23 PM EST reply actions  

lmao

seriously though, thats why people love to bury us when we go one-and-done

by LBizZLE on Dec 27, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

If I payed money for tickets today

And am currently standing outside, clearing my car of Ice, and braving the snowy roads to get home after attending this game

I am ENRAGED AT CALDWELL/POLIAN RIGHT NOW

by LBizZLE on Dec 27, 2009 7:24 PM EST reply actions  

exactly

we don’t pay to see the games either live or by T.V. to see them lose.

"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady

by BlueMark1821 on Dec 27, 2009 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

What I'm thinking? OK.

“Why didn’t Caldwell or Polian warn us that this is coming?”

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

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by Cassieper on Dec 27, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

they better sit manning the whole game next week

Imagine if he gets hurt in the first play, we will be the laughing stock of the NFL

by thebossuzzi on Dec 27, 2009 7:24 PM EST reply actions  

what if he slips in the shower

Probably better not let him use the stove either

by TerriH on Dec 27, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

While the Chargers and Pats are getting hot

we just started getting ice cold

"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady

by BlueMark1821 on Dec 27, 2009 7:24 PM EST reply actions  

wow i actually just teared up a little no fuckin joke, well ima spend my money buying jerseys from ebay i dont want none of my money going to the colts

ima buy from people who wasted their money on a stupid organization,
i sincerely want to apologize to all of our players
im sorry for polian and caldwells stupid ass decision

"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing."
-Johnny Unitas-
"You're only as healthy as you feel."
-Travis Bickle-

by 805 on Dec 27, 2009 7:24 PM EST reply actions  

me too

And I’m in Mexico. Here, you can’t get any Colts merchandise. I have to pay a bunch of $$ to have my jerseys. I have to pay for the friggin Sunday Ticket to follow them the whole season.
And they give us fans this shit? We really don’t deserve it. The players don’t deserve ot.

"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady

by BlueMark1821 on Dec 27, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

From WA

… yep, paid a fortune for Sunday ticket. If I wanted to watch a team lose, I could see the Seahawks on TV for free.

by TerriH on Dec 27, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Coming from a Texans fan

BOOOOOOOOO

We were cheering for you to win. The Texans lost nail biting games to the colts two times and get screwed one last time when they decide to give a freebie to another team in the playoff hunt.
Damn your coaching staff!!!

by Chris89 on Dec 27, 2009 7:25 PM EST reply actions  

why even have Manning show up to practice anymore?

Hell we’ve seen players go down at Practice all over this year

better have him sit at home playing Madden to get his reps and review tape all week

by LBizZLE on Dec 27, 2009 7:25 PM EST reply actions  

I really don't know what we're surprised about

Caldwell said he was going to do this. Someone should give him his walking papers tomorrow.

by Ayrshire on Dec 27, 2009 7:26 PM EST reply actions  

BOOOOOOO Painter and coaching staff.

Hail Manning

by Ash Williams on Dec 27, 2009 7:27 PM EST reply actions  

They sent a boy

to do a man’s job. He isn’t a bad guy … he just wasn’t qualified against this defense.

by TerriH on Dec 27, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

If I had kids

I’d teach them that fear of injury should control their lives.

by Fernando Nougatieri on Dec 27, 2009 7:27 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

yeah so they should never go outside

"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing."
-Johnny Unitas-
"You're only as healthy as you feel."
-Travis Bickle-

by 805 on Dec 27, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

awesome analogy

also, love the log in name. Nougatieri. LOL!

May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.

by juperee on Dec 27, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

they dont have the tools and we do

exactly

"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing."
-Johnny Unitas-
"You're only as healthy as you feel."
-Travis Bickle-

by 805 on Dec 27, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I've not lost faith.

I’m disappointed. I’m sad. I disagree with their decision, but I’ve not lost faith and will continue supporting MY team always.

My loyalty is not fickle. Every team you care about makes boneheaded, disappointing moves, you still support them. This is another such instance.

by diagenesis on Dec 27, 2009 7:27 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

you're confusing loyalty

with obedience. I’m loyal to the Colts in that I will never cheer for another team. I will never cheer against the Colts. i will never cheer for a colts loss (until Manning is gone and the loss gets us the #1 overall pick so that they can draft one of my kids and overpay him). My loyalty is paying for the sports pack so I can see their games every week in another country. Its living and dying with every game.

My loyalty does not, in any way, shape, or form extend to pissing on your players and your fans. To telling your fans and your players that its OK to not try. That quitting is OK. That living in fear of injuries is the way to go. Polian has done nothing super extraordinary in this league that he has got this ‘get out of moron free’ card forever and ever amen.
 
He doesn’t shit chocolate and piss gold. He’s made mistakes. He’s made mistakes with the Colts. As a fan, I choose to boo the fucking shit out of those mistakes. If they don’t win the super bowl this year, he should be fired. This strategy will have had multiple chances to fail.

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Dec 27, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess the seasons' over. No reason to even play the playoff games, no reason to watch, no reason to go to them

I guess there is no reason to even pay attention. Guess I should become a fan of some other team. I can never root for this team ever again that I have always rooted for.

Go …Packers.

/sarcasm

Insert Clever Statement Here

by MrNFL on Dec 27, 2009 7:27 PM EST reply actions  

What is your problem

you keep acting so shocked how pissed off we are that our 14-0 team tanked a game we had the lead in and pissed away our shot at immortality and has our stars sitting on the sideline pouting wondering WTF is goin on

by LBizZLE on Dec 27, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats 85% of you

are acting like. Like this game was the fuckin super bowl. It meant nothing. This doesn’t change anything. NOTHING. There’s no reason to go all ape shit when everyone knew it was gonna happen

Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!

by coltsfan723 on Dec 27, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

No. The game meant zero.

Nothing. Zippo. Zilch. I’m surprised the starters lasted as long as they did. But regardless, dropping the game, even intentionally, means nothing in the big picture. It doesn’t change Indy’s playoff chances one bit, it keeps key players from wearing out, and frankly, it gets the fanbase’s attention right back where it should have been all along: On the Super Bowl.

I’d rather beat the silly Jets too, but I’m not going to indulge in a whiny pissfit just because it didn’t happen.

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by E.M.H. on Dec 27, 2009 11:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Thank you!

All these comments about Polian and Caldwell being fired for this one decision were starting to get on my nerves. IT’S ONE GAME!!! We still have had a good season…I mean 14-1 is nothing to laugh at! Calm down everyone! I’m upset that we lost as well but it’s not the end of the world.

by leb_03 on Dec 28, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

no one is acting like it was the super bowl you santimonious douche nozzel

I dont even care that they lost. If you go out and try and lose, fine. If you QUIT, if you say, I dont care about winning. If you throw some poor rookie to the wolves. If you piss on your home crowd and fans. THAT I have a problem with. I don’t come from a time and place where quitting and living in fear are OK. The fact that you do says more about you than it does about us.

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Dec 27, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Keeping your QB

from taking hits from a blitzing defense (that was already taking cheapshots) is quitting? Would you rather have kept Manning in and, who knows, have Painter for the playoffs?

Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!

by coltsfan723 on Dec 27, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Logic: Fail

you played him the majority of the game, but NOW you live in fear of a blitzing defense. Seriously? How does THAT make sense.

The more you type on the subject, the deeper a hole you dig.

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Dec 27, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Im clueless?

Yeah cause I’m the one sitting here calling for the entire Front Office to be burned at the steak…

Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!

by coltsfan723 on Dec 27, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

so buddy

can you please show me where I asked for a stream?

"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady

by BlueMark1821 on Dec 27, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Im not gonna

go back through every fuckin open thread for your ass.

Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!

by coltsfan723 on Dec 27, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

1) Its stake

2) How many people are calling for them to be burned anywhere? If this ‘strategy’ fails, I think they should be fired. They don’t need to be burned, however.

3) You’re clueless because

a) You’re contradicting yourself. If Mr. Manning is too fragile to play an entire game against a blitzing defense, then why have him in there at all. (And this brings us to a frightening dilemma in the playoffs, when teams may try to blitz. Do we pull him in the 2nd or the 3rd quarter of our first playoff win)

b) Your holier than thou attitude which is implying (incorrectly) that no one is allowed to have an opinion other than yours. The decide was, in most peoples minds, a bad one. The execution and timing were bad. Everything about it was bad.

4) YOU PLAY. TO WIN. THE GAME. You don’t play to just play. YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME. The Colts quit. Their coaches and GM (I’m assuming) told them to quit.

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Dec 27, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

look

I’m upset that they lost. But I’m not gonna sit here and piss and cry on myself because of it. Its a decision we all knew was coming. We see this every year. The whole Caldwell hate is what is getting annoying. One game and there’s comments about “sending him is walking papers”

Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!

by coltsfan723 on Dec 27, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Im NOT upset they lost.

Im upset that they quit. There’s a huge gaping difference between the two.

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Dec 27, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

there's a major difference.

The game was in the process of being won………that’s the truly sad part. The other sad part is that Caldwell/Polian are so profoundly clueless as to the historic nature of going 19-0, as well as being clueless about mojo and momentum. It’s all connected. The bottom line is, they’re clueless and they’re quitters. Their team has the talent to destroy everyone, but instead they try to be cute and outthink themselves, and it’s disgustingly putrid. They should be tarred and feathered, tied up, and dropped kicked to Argentina.

by Ayrshire on Dec 27, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

it was possible that the Jets would dial up the blitzes more

had Manning stayed in, and we already saw at least one cheap shot hit on him (that should have been called). I’m disappointed, but not as disappointed as if they had left Manning in and he got injured.

Again – I just hope the locker room can recover from the decision.

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Dec 27, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

again

what happens in the playoffs if someone wants to blitz him and hit him late? What about next year in a meaningless week 8 game against the redskins and albert haynesworth decides to be dirty, OK to pull Peyton then, too?

Bob Sanders is the one made of glass, not the rest.

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Dec 27, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

+10000

"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady

by BlueMark1821 on Dec 27, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree

It isn’t THAT we lost, it is HOW and WHY we lost.

by TerriH on Dec 27, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

What is your problem

Degrading a coaching staff and front office that has won us 115 games on the decade?

by UnofficialPants on Dec 27, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

1 superbowl.......

steelers spastically make the playoffs and have two.

by bob-log sandtits on Dec 27, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm just laughing at the irrational leaping from the bandwagon

It’s not being upset, it’s the “OMFG DEATH TO POLIAN AND CALDWELL” stuff which is just sad.

The goal of the regular season is to win enough to get to the postseason. The ultimate goal is to win the Super Bowl. You people are acting like they just lost 40-0 to the Chargers.

Season is far from over folks. If you want to stop rooting for this team, then leave.

Insert Clever Statement Here

by MrNFL on Dec 27, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

NOT ONE PERSON HAS THREATENED TO STOP ROOTING FOR THE TEAM

Most of us have been there done that, seen it all

what we are pissed at is the EMBARSSING DISPLAY OUR HEAD COACH PUT UP TODAY

GUTLESS, BALL-LESS, PUSSY, SCARED, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE UPSET ABOUT

by LBizZLE on Dec 27, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

The goal is Super Bowl

If they fall apart in the playoffs, I won’t stand in any of you peoples’ way. But the playoffs haven’t even STARTED yet. And teams are defined by what they do in the postseason.

The over-reaction is just hilarious. So many people already claiming the Colts have no chance in the postseason. If you think that’s true, then don’t watch.

Insert Clever Statement Here

by MrNFL on Dec 27, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Preach on!

The Colts can still win the SB!! That’s all that matters at this point. 19-0 woulda been cool, but it’s not gonna happen, so here we are. GO COLTS!

by yellowsnow on Dec 27, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

It can be argued that the playoffs haven’t even started yet. But, it can also be argued that Peyton hadn’t been sacked in 150 plays. How do you decide now that he could possibly get hurt?

by whitseals25 on Dec 27, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

That's exactly the kind of logic that gets gamblers broke

Manning shouldn’t have been in there as long as he was. But him lasting 2 quarters is no reason to keep him in for 4. Not in a meaningless game. Saying “it hadn’t happened in a long time” is not sufficient justification.

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Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Dec 28, 2009 12:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

this is why Peyton and our colts dont get the respect of the media

is not their fault they are players but this one hurts and no way im going to ask for respect anymore , i will take all they want say from now on, theyre right, this is hard not because of the loss but the timing and the QUIT message sent

by thebossuzzi on Dec 27, 2009 7:27 PM EST reply actions  

really Caldwell...this isnt even your team

way to go coach…this maybe our only chance to go undefeated and you stole that from us you, loser We want Dungy back at least he has more class than you…sad you are sad…coward

by Husle on Dec 27, 2009 7:27 PM EST reply actions  

Dungy rested players

after one drive…wtf are you talking about?

Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!

by coltsfan723 on Dec 27, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

If you think sitting behind Dungy hearing him talk about rest all of the timeq

and watching him pull starters in situations like this didn’t affect Caldwells decision today…..

then there’s no point in arguing with you

by LBizZLE on Dec 27, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you even read my comment

and the comment I replied to? He/she said we want Dungy, as if Dungy would have played the whole game, when we all know that had Dungy been in there, one drive would have been it.

Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!

by coltsfan723 on Dec 27, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

We might want Dungy back

but did you see his all out defense of the coaching staff on their decision? He said he agreed, had done the same thing in the past, and would have done it too.

by TerriH on Dec 27, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I love Tony Dungy. But, he does not know what he would have done in this situation, because he wasn’t in this situation. Caldwell didn’t protect his players. He hurt them and crushed their hopes of being perfect!

by whitseals25 on Dec 27, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

ARE YOU GUYS WATCHING THE POST GAME CONFERENCE HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOOK AT FUCKING CALDWELL HE REMINDS ME OF THE PIGGY FROM LOONEY TOONES

"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing."
-Johnny Unitas-
"You're only as healthy as you feel."
-Travis Bickle-

by 805 on Dec 27, 2009 7:28 PM EST reply actions  

it was in espn but i guess you can watch it in nfl.com

"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing."
-Johnny Unitas-
"You're only as healthy as you feel."
-Travis Bickle-

by 805 on Dec 27, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

link please

i want to laugh at him

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!

by TheAngelsColts on Dec 27, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

its not up yet

"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing."
-Johnny Unitas-
"You're only as healthy as you feel."
-Travis Bickle-

by 805 on Dec 27, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

well I guess that's the face of a man forced to bend over and take it.

It’s not like it was really his choice. He gets to shield Polian for some of the blame. He can’t actually point his finger at Polian if he wants to keep his job. What pisses me off, is that Polian gets to involved on these type of decisions. Polian must be doing is best imitation of Jerry Jones, but without balls.

by soforizo on Dec 27, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I am sooo Pissed Off

I live in NY, so I built my whole week around actually seeing a game and was excited they actually played the whole game last week, then this. Definition of insanity: Repitition of the same actions with the expectation of different results. All the coaches are insane. Polian is insane. Irsay’s just a druggie.

by Reds_Colts1975 on Dec 27, 2009 7:29 PM EST reply actions  

later caldwell

what a poor choice you suck Irsay should fire your a@# NOW

by Husle on Dec 27, 2009 7:30 PM EST reply actions  

Why?

Because Polian made the decision. If you have forgotten…Polian signs Caldwell’s checks…what he says goes

Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!

by coltsfan723 on Dec 27, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

But Polian

is the head of Caldwell…was my point.

Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!

by coltsfan723 on Dec 27, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly right. Jim Irsay signs all of the checks and is just as much to blame as Caldwell.

by whitseals25 on Dec 27, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I can only imagine how embarrassed Peyton

is to being playing for coaches and mangers like this. They do everything right all season only to have the plug pulled as they’re making history. Excuse me while I find my barf bag.

by Ayrshire on Dec 27, 2009 7:30 PM EST reply actions  

Caldwell and Polian deserve to be roasted by the National Media

Irrespective of whether we win a SB or not….With one stroke the heart of this team has been ripped out.

I am sorry Peyton you have once again been robbed of your hard work based on the fears of an old fool.

What more should the players play for ? What is the guarantee in the future we will have a 14-0 and then not rest starters.

If we lose the SB …it will rest squarely on the shoulders of Polian and Caldwell Period.

I no longer can face any other fan and refute the allegation the Colts are wussies….

Losing to the Patriots in row did not hurt so much…
Losing to the chargers did not hurt so much….

This just rips the fans hearts out….If we the fans are going through this…What to talk of poor guy Peyton…The poor guy his face said it all….

Screw you Caldwell and Polian.

by Horseshoe_Tsunami on Dec 27, 2009 7:30 PM EST reply actions  

I still have faith we will win it all...

but I am extremely pissed. The organization just said its ok to quit, that is ok to lose. Every player from the beginning of there playing time is taught it is not ok to lose and you want to win every game no matter what. Also you can guarantee this game gave the MVP to Philip Rivers as much as I hate that douchebag.

by dDogg on Dec 27, 2009 7:30 PM EST reply actions  

HELLO

YOU PLAY TO LOSE THE GAME

by ColtsUK on Dec 27, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Caldwell sucks

go Horseshoe_Tsunami go tell it brother

by Husle on Dec 27, 2009 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

wow we are soft or our coaching staff organization

i rather lose cuz we tried than because we gave up i mean the staff and organization gave up

"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing."
-Johnny Unitas-
"You're only as healthy as you feel."
-Travis Bickle-

by 805 on Dec 27, 2009 7:32 PM EST reply actions  

We wait several months after the SB

to see football again. Your team starts 14-0, and then, all of a sudden, it doesn’t matter at all. It’s just unfair.
As you say, I still have faith we will win the SB, but right now, this was just embarrasing. I won’t ever forget this. And if we win the SB, we will all start to wonder if we could go all the way with a 19-0

"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady

by BlueMark1821 on Dec 27, 2009 7:33 PM EST reply actions  

Same comment as earlier dead thread, but valid question

So, how is it different when the Colts put in their reserves to basically give up the game, then if a team were tanking games to get the number one pick? If I had went to this game, I’d be bitching about a refund. Polian can talk all the pompus crap he wants about how its about winning the super bowl and that’s it, but the team exist to win games and win for its fans, without us, there are no Colts. Way to spit in the face of your fans again this year Colt’s brass. This better bring a Super Bowl since they are SO focused on it.

But the main point I ask is, how is this different thank tanking for a draft pick?

by Bippal on Dec 27, 2009 7:33 PM EST reply actions  

it's not

not at all

even worse after what happened last week

by LBizZLE on Dec 27, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

If this game was meaningless

then what’s wrong about winning if it. If it didn’t matter at all, no matter win or lose, then why won’t you play to win? I don’t get it.

"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady

by BlueMark1821 on Dec 27, 2009 7:34 PM EST reply actions  

At the end of the season im gonna be pissed

Lets say we win the Superbowl. Im gonna be really pissed off that we didnt go 19-0 when we had the chance. BECAUSE WE DID HAVE THE CHANCE WE HAD IT BUT WE THREW IT AWAY

If we dont win the superbowl, im gonna look at how caldwell made the worst decision ive seen the colts make in years

by ColtsUK on Dec 27, 2009 7:34 PM EST reply actions  

I'm a Colts fan always........

But goddammit, the way this was handled sucks in so many ways. I could see sitting down after two TD’s up. But what they did today screws up guys who bet money on these games. Hell I never bet against the Colts, ever. In the future, including the Buffalo game, I will never bet again after home field is clinched. I don’t think Caldwell and Polian are cowards, but I do think they took money out of my pocket. I knew something was up when they put that no name QB on the roster. Oh crap, I guess 14 – 2 ain’t bad. God help em if we don’t have our Super Bowl this year. I hope Miami chokes on their champaign.

by tim55 on Dec 27, 2009 7:35 PM EST reply actions  

Damn It Caldwell

Go find another team to piss on…dumb ass

by Husle on Dec 27, 2009 7:35 PM EST reply actions  

caldwell is a fuckin looooooooser

caldwell is a fuckin looooooooooooooooooosssssssssser

by daver 918 on Dec 27, 2009 7:36 PM EST reply actions  

he is a fucking loser....now I realize

why he had such a shitty record at Wake Forest.

by Ayrshire on Dec 27, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

respect for AL DAVIS THE MAN HAS BALLS OF STEEL

he might get criticized a lot but because he takes chances, you guys know ive always giving him respect for that, he defends his players, loves to win, and takes chances

"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing."
-Johnny Unitas-
"You're only as healthy as you feel."
-Travis Bickle-

by 805 on Dec 27, 2009 7:37 PM EST reply actions  

haha

nice call..

Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!

by coltsfan723 on Dec 27, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

they dont have the tools we do

exactly

"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing."
-Johnny Unitas-
"You're only as healthy as you feel."
-Travis Bickle-

by 805 on Dec 27, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure if Davis is alive

He might as well be a re-animated cadaver

by Gwen on Dec 27, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Who cares about Caldwell

who cares what he has to say…flipping dick

by Husle on Dec 27, 2009 7:37 PM EST reply actions  

The same shitty boring crap he says every week

We are focused on the superbowl blah blah blah blah I have no emotion i am a machine and a big ass pussy

by ColtsUK on Dec 27, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah!!!

Lets all piss on a coach who pulled the starters cause HIS boss told him too!! Lets just forget about the 14 games we won with him holding the reigns!

Yeah FUCK YOU!!

Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!

by coltsfan723 on Dec 27, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

you contradict yourself, i dont know if your being sarcastic in this reply

but choose a side homie

"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing."
-Johnny Unitas-
"You're only as healthy as you feel."
-Travis Bickle-

by 805 on Dec 27, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Its called Sarcasm

its your friend…

Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!

by coltsfan723 on Dec 27, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

oh alright thanks

"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing."
-Johnny Unitas-
"You're only as healthy as you feel."
-Travis Bickle-

by 805 on Dec 27, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

fuckin loser

fuckin loser fuckin loser fuckin loser

by daver 918 on Dec 27, 2009 7:38 PM EST reply actions  

I'm outta here......

but before I go, the fans and the players got totally robbed tonight. It’s amazing how a couple of guys can make the most idiotic decision ever and cause this much pain to everybody. Even if they win the superbowl, it’s not even close to the achievement of winning the superbowl at 19-0. That was a chance at immortality and it was totally within reach…..that’s the sad part. And, Caldwell/Polian said (for God know’s what reason)……na…..we don’t want or need that. Ditka is going to have a field day with this…..and rightly so. With ownership and coaches this unbelievably stupid, Peyton is fighting an uphill battle for the rest of his career.

by Ayrshire on Dec 27, 2009 7:38 PM EST reply actions  

+1

"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady

by BlueMark1821 on Dec 27, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Still Pissed

Wheres Belicheck….hell atleast he would have ran up the score….Caldwell you suck

by Husle on Dec 27, 2009 7:39 PM EST reply actions  

Why you not let US to win last week

if 100% is not important??
Now a team like Pitt can go to the playoffs instead of our at best average team. Polian and Caldwell might regret that Jags victory last week in my opinion…

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 27, 2009 7:39 PM EST reply actions  

Yargh,

I’m going to stay away from sports coverage this week because it’s going to be brutal and it will only serve to make me angry.

The Colts absolutely have to win the Super Bowl this year, it’s the only insulation from the storm of criticism that will ensue if the Colts lose in the first round after packing it in against the Jets.

I understand the rationale behind the decision but I don’t understand quitting midgame. If the danger of injuries is so great – don’t start guys. Don’t pull them in a close game. Up big, down big, fine but when it’s in doubt your best players need to play.

by hyphenated11 on Dec 27, 2009 7:39 PM EST reply actions  

Even if Peyton wins the superbowl for us

which is possible……it will be his doing, not the coaches. They totally fucked up tonight, and I’ll never forget this gutless, stupid, idiotic, profoundly wimpy decision which in effect…..took a sledgehammer to their momentum……as well as making 19-0 impossible. We were 5 friggin’ points ahead………and Caldwell puts Painter in? Are you fucking kidding me? What a jerk! Caldwell certainly seems like a nice guy, but he lacks the killer instinct to coach in the NFL. We need killer instinct!!!!!!

by Ayrshire on Dec 27, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

so the Miami Dolphins remain the only team undefeated through the SB

and the Pats and Fins the only teams undefeated in regular season.

I guess that will make it that much more valuable when the Colts finally attain 16-0 under a different head coach someday.

May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.

by juperee on Dec 27, 2009 7:40 PM EST reply actions  

i know. That's what makes it all the more inexplicable.

May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.

by juperee on Dec 27, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Polian was GM for the Bills of the early '90s...

how can he say that winning the Super Bowl is his priority?

by Fernando Nougatieri on Dec 27, 2009 7:41 PM EST reply actions  

Caldwell's decision was fine

Of course it is easy to throw caldwell under the bus the first time we lose a game. THat ignores the the coaches have been saying for weeks that 16-0 doesn’t matter.. The players knew this. They wanted to keep playing, but that’s what players do. Coaches jobs are to tell the players what to do. Their job is to OVERRULE the players for the big picture.

I have not seen one person actually give a rational reason why this will affect our future performance.

Here are the complaints that we have seen:
1) caldwell did a disservice to the fans by not playing the starters.
NO. Any fan who didn’t think that there was a significant chance manning wouldn’t play doesn’t cover the team at all. We all knew this would/could happen. If you paid for the ticket, you accepted that risk.

2) Going for the loss breaks our team’s spirit.
Bullshit. Yes, the team now knows that a game that doesn’t matter, doesn’t matter to the coaching staff. How is that going to change our desire to win a playoff game? This is a team of winners. They know how to win. They aren’t going to forget hot to win bc they were forced out of a game. There is no difference between playing part of a game and watching the 2nd string lose it, and not playing at all.

3) we should play for 16-0

I think that injury to peyton is FAR worse than 16-0.

Did anyone else see the hit that almost got placed on manning? You know, the amazing block by Brown that saved a ferocious hit. If brown misses that block, manning might have dislocated his shoulder, gotten a concussion, or sprained a pinky. Risking him for the short term reward of 16-0 is misguided. These were not the cleveland browns. They were a motivated, agressive defense whose explicit plan was to HIT manning. Yes, a perfect season would have been great. But, I’ll take a super bowl.

4) Why start and not finish? I mean if injury’s are bad just finish the game.

The point of playing part of the game is to maintain the offensive rythym, get some plays in, and score some points. Not to win the game. Once the rythym was there, then we can pull them out.

by sandsnake on Dec 27, 2009 7:42 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I'm sorry...

1) ITS NOT JUST ABOUT MONEY… We felt it in our guts, we saw it on Peyton’s face… I don’t give a shit about how much a ticket was, or how much my nfl extra is… I care about how laying down and taking it up the ass made me FEEL as a colts fan

2) WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE THAT THINK THIS DIDN’T MATTER?!?!?! Every single non-colts fan in the league that ISN’T trying to justify this thinks it mattered… trust me, it mattered to PATS FANS and it mattered to DOLPHINS FANS… and before they lost 16-0 mattered to SAINTS FANS TOO.

3) that’s a great fucking way to live your life… “Oh… I want to play… but I MAY GET INJURED I GUESS WE SHOULD NEVER PLAY EVER AT ALL!!!”

4) you take the starters out AFTER YOU HAVE A REAL LEAD, not five points… what fucking rhythm did we establish with painter out there for two quarters?

by SuperNewb on Dec 27, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Man

At least the Eagles are on the verge of winning.

Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever.
Napoleon Bonaparte

Stampede Blue's Resident Steelers Fan

Oneil Cousins is the Steelers' best Offensive Lineman
Frank Walker is their best CB.

by LV Steelers Fan on Dec 27, 2009 7:42 PM EST reply actions  

My main problem with this, is that this will now give almost 21 days before Peyton Manning or anyone else that matters plays a significant game. So while they can say all the want about momentum doesn’t matter, maybe Mr Polian will remember how rusty Peyton was because he couldnt play the pre season to keep himself sharp.

by Bippal on Dec 27, 2009 7:42 PM EST reply actions  

ah, don't worry

as Polian says, momentum is overrated. And, how can you get rusty if you practice an entire week?

"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady

by BlueMark1821 on Dec 27, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

IM RESPECTING MANNING SO MUCH IN HIS INTERVIEW HE MANAGED TO SMILE

so im cooled off, im alright now

"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing."
-Johnny Unitas-
"You're only as healthy as you feel."
-Travis Bickle-

by 805 on Dec 27, 2009 7:44 PM EST reply actions  

What do you think he's going to do?

He’s got an image to maintain. I can only speculate on what he thinks inside. I bet he hates Caldwell for not letting him make history. I sure would!

by Ayrshire on Dec 27, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure that was a smile

I think it was Peyton trying not to vomit.

by TerriH on Dec 27, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

why handle a game to a playoff contender

it can come back to hunt you, if we face off the Jets again. It was better to win this one and just say it publicly , say it damn it say hey we are resting this game and we are not concern with the outcome

by thebossuzzi on Dec 27, 2009 7:44 PM EST reply actions  

The Jets have Sanchez!

Plus, they haven’t even made it and will they even win their 1st game? Lots of ifs there.

by Gwen on Dec 27, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

sandsnake...

Because we could have gotten out from underneath that gaod damn dark cloud of the Patriots…reagradless of beating them the last five times in a row…

by Husle on Dec 27, 2009 7:44 PM EST reply actions  

Worst nightmare

Peyton is pissed as are all the players. It was obvious they wanted to try for perfection.

So, what happens if the Colts go one and done in the playoffs again? Peyton’s last contract year is next year. Maybe he decides he wants to go somewhere else.

Sorry, I am just pissed and freaking out a little.

by coltus on Dec 27, 2009 7:45 PM EST reply actions  

He should go to a team with balls.

Hail Manning

by Ash Williams on Dec 27, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

As A Bills fan

living in Western New York – with no ties to the Colts, let me say I was disgusted with what Indy did. Giving the game to the Jets – which is basically what they did -reflects on the integrity of the NFL. You play to win, especially when you have a chance to make history, and what you do affects other team’s chances for the playoffs.

Why would any Buffalo fan come out this week in the snow to watch a second-string Colts team. Our team is bad enough, but figuring the Colts will play nothing but second-stringers it is in insult to our fans, too.

All of this has a bad odor to it.

by ccthemovieman on Dec 27, 2009 7:45 PM EST reply actions  

Peyton, Clark, and Wayne all looked very pissed

by Chris89 on Dec 27, 2009 7:46 PM EST reply actions  

Of course they were pissed.

Wouldn’t you be too. They wanted immortality and were well on their way. Caldwell decided they should have immortality.

by Ayrshire on Dec 27, 2009 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

because this game has some kind of effect on what happens in the post season.

Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!

by coltsfan723 on Dec 27, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Did it to keep players healthy? No

This decision makes me sick, like many Colts fans. My biggest problem is the excuse that this was done to make sure that the players are healthy. Who says that they can’t get hurt in the first half when they were out there. I seem to remember Tom Brady getting hurt in the first quarter last year. So, that excuse is just a joke. If you’re going to try and use that, you can’t play them for any part of the game. Secondly, I heard a great point on ESPN by Merril Hoge: “you have some young receivers on this team, such as rookie Austin Collie, who could still use some work with Manning.” Couldn’t have said it better myself. Finally, we just got Adam Vinatieri back. Wouldn’t it have been nice to at least leave Manning in to get this team into field goal range a few more times for Adam to get some work in? Just a thought

by The Baseball Freak on Dec 27, 2009 7:49 PM EST reply actions  

Steeler don't need a miracle to get into the playoffs

But its pretty darn close.

Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever.
Napoleon Bonaparte

Stampede Blue's Resident Steelers Fan

Oneil Cousins is the Steelers' best Offensive Lineman
Frank Walker is their best CB.

by LV Steelers Fan on Dec 27, 2009 7:49 PM EST reply actions  

As a Browns fan...

Here is my take on what happened today, with the memory painfully fresh of the LAST time the Colts “rested their starters”…against Tennessee at the end of ‘07, letting the Titans “win” and knocking the Browns from the playoffs…first off, it may not matter in the grand scheme of things, but there HAVE TO BE a lot of pissed off 8-7 and maybe also 7-8 teams in the AFC right now, with another team in the mix and sitting pretty at 8-7 thanks to the Colts’ coach, and SECOND of all, though this may sound odd: do future fans who buy Colts tickets for their final home game have to now hope the Colts LOSE more during the season so that the game their tickets are for actually is a “meaningful game” to the coach and owner?

One more note, of course, right after “resting their starters” against the Titans in ’07…the Colts lost their first playoff game to the Chargers.

Indy is a good town, and its fans are good and loyal fans…I feel badly for you, even with my team 4-11…we did try today.

by BrownsFaninPA on Dec 27, 2009 7:50 PM EST reply actions  

at least they know how to use there their and they’re… like any good 5th grader

by SuperNewb on Dec 27, 2009 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Fickle

So in one day the motto goes from “in Polian we trust” to he’s a coward.
Caldwell becomes a bum for deciding to play it safe in a game that means nothing more than keeping players warmed up.
If Manning had stayed in, been sacked, and suffered a season ending injury, the howls would be deafing with calls to fire Caldwell and Polian.
Same goes for other key starters.
Painter had no experience and needed some.
The real frustration I feel is for the anemic running game that will be sorely need to get to the Super Bowl.
Field goal kicking is another question mark.
There were some defensive problems as well.
The ultimate goal of any season is to get to the Super Bowl, and risking injury just to go 15-0 is myopic.
If Manning is a team player, he should have no problem giving Painter the chance to gain experience that will help the team down the road.
This team cannot rely on Manning 100% of the time.
If the running game doesn’t get better, the Colts may not get to the Super Bowl anyway.

by centauri on Dec 27, 2009 7:51 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

then say it , why the mystery ? say you will rest the starters in the 3rd quarter

that way it expected ,but they gave us hope ,why not losing the jags on the road ,why? give us hope they were going for it?

by thebossuzzi on Dec 27, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

They should have said it

But who knows, maybe this came from Irsay while he was watching the game.

by centauri on Dec 27, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Lack of faith.Colts first Loss out of FEAR

Coach Caldwell made a decision to take away from his players an opportunity to achieve
greatness or from beoming elite out of fear. All of the hard work and milestones end
not from being outplayed or an injury by a key player(s) But out of fear. I hope his lack of
 faith won’t have an affect in the play-offs. But I think it will. You just by one decision out of FEAR, divided a solid cohisive team and fans, and may have stolen his team’s
competetive edge. It is almost Al Davisesqe to get in the way of successful competetors…His own Team and especially #18.

by Daniel H. on Dec 27, 2009 7:52 PM EST reply actions  

The game is over, the first playoff game is 3 weeks from now

That should be the sole focus of this team. We are spoiled everyone, you guys are upset about a team not going unbeaten, many fans teams never even sniff the playoffs.

My parting words as I leave you today: the season is NOT over yet.

Insert Clever Statement Here

by MrNFL on Dec 27, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

People are not upset that the season is over

People are upset because the Colts coaching staff quit on a game the team was winning.

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by Brad Wells on Dec 27, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

It is what the Colts have done when the regular season is wrapped up

Hell, at least they kept starters in for half the game, most years the backups are all in before the 1st quarter ends.

Business as usual

Insert Clever Statement Here

by MrNFL on Dec 27, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

stop trying to defend this so hard

it was a horrible fanbase-turning on you, morality killing decision

by LBizZLE on Dec 27, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

they gave us hope

i wrote a fan post weeks ago that the timing to tank a game should be the jags game on the road, 14-0 in home was a bad timing to do this.

by thebossuzzi on Dec 27, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

You seem to be missing the point , complelely

NOBODY IS SAYING THE SEASON IS OVER

our team quit, got scared, put their tail between their legs today, in embarssing fashion

and that is not good for our post season hopes

by LBizZLE on Dec 27, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I've decided

That to prepare for 2011, I am resting in the last quarter of 2010. I know that I will have a good year up until September, but I can’t risk dying. 2011 is an important year. I will stay in my house from 3 to the next morning instead of being out until the evening. I will hire a backup to do anything I would do from 3 to around 6 or 7. Everytime I have done this my life has gotten worse, but crazy things can happen. I can get hit by a bus or a giant eagle could peck my eyes out. I can’t risk that, so I am giving up on October through December of 2010.

"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."

by Colts Homer on Dec 27, 2009 7:55 PM EST reply actions  

That's a fairly lame analogy, if you don't mind me saying:

They aren’t preparing for next year, they’re preparing for this year. Your analogy completely misses the point of the decision. A more fair analogy, in my opinion, is to decide to take a week off from team athletics the week before finals. Team athletics is completely independent of success during finals week, but if you succeed then and succeed during finals it’s a great achievement. But all that matters is doing well in finals, because your semester grade is all that will ever matter when you’re trying to get on to college, or graduate school. That’s the only thing on the transcript. It’s not the only thing on the application, it’s a nice touch to have success in athletics, but it’s best to just concentrate on doing what matters in the end: succeed on finals and win that damn championship.

In short, everybody is over-reacting a tad bit. Was it a dumb decision from a coaching standpoint? Absolutely not. From a PR standpoint, not a good idea. Lastly, if it was their goal to go into this game and win with the risk of doing something detrimental to Super-Bowl success, but suddenly they decided to change plans at such an inopportune moment, then this was a bad idea. But Peyton said it best, “It’s our organizational philosophy” to win the big game and not every game, and so we’re sticking to it. If you have a problem with this, then you’ve got to blame Polian first and fore-most and not Caldwell.

by Talka1ot on Dec 27, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

They played more than a half

Grow up people. 19-0 would not happen if something happened to a key player. It has happened. EX. Steve Hutchinson got injured during a meaningless game a few years ago. Caldwell has coached a 14-1 team, and Polian is a Hall of Famer, but I guess it’s “what have you done for me lately” with you guys.

Last year the Colts could not run the ball, that is why they lost to the Chargers.
The year before, they had trouble rushing the passer without Freeney.

Those are the reasons the Colts lost. Not because they rested players for part of a game.

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by Mojo1 on Dec 27, 2009 7:55 PM EST reply actions  

Lets not forget

all of the missed scoring opportunities by the STARTERS…

Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!

by coltsfan723 on Dec 27, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, and they were STILL ahead. They

would have probably padded their lead in the second half if they were allowed to play and continue to make history.

by Ayrshire on Dec 27, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

You know, after giving it careful thought

There is no more proof that an injury in these final 2 games would prevent the Colts from the Super Bowl than there is proof that playing it out would cause them to win it.

Brandon Stokley was out for the last super bowl run, and he was pretty key. Lots of corners were hurt, we thought they were important.

Lets boil it down to this: For me, its not about tomorrow, or the next day or the Super Bowl or 19-0 and history or the media or MVP or any of that. Its that, in the 3rd quarter of a game they were winning, Jim Caldwell and Bill Polian said, with authority, the following:

WE ARE QUITTERS. WE SUPPORT AND RECOMMEND QUITTING.

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Dec 27, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s hard to make that argument when they have won every game by playing their starters. They lost this game because the coaches made stupid decisions. If every team played safe, they would never win.

by whitseals25 on Dec 27, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

no i don't mean you're wrong

i mean you’re an idiot

“no shit thats why there fuckin loosers” -daver 918

maybe learn to write at the level of a 5th grader who knows the difference between there, they’re, and their?

and stop spamming the thread with essentially the same post every minute

by SuperNewb on Dec 27, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

this is bullshit!!!

In my opinion Jim Caldwell just completely screwed himself. If he was going to do something like this, it should have been done earlier in the season. You don’t let a team be 14-0, then refuse to let them play and see what they could really do. And the Superbowl doesn’t mean shit when you screw your players on the opportunity of a lifetime. The fans and players just lost a lot of respect for a man they were still forming an opinion about. Caldwell just showed everyone that is was acceptable to give up on a team.

by whitseals25 on Dec 27, 2009 7:56 PM EST reply actions  

There's more to keeping momentum that physical health.

The player’s psyche and ‘expectation to win’ is very important. That criteria was severely damaged this evening as well as the undefeated season.

by Ayrshire on Dec 27, 2009 7:57 PM EST reply actions  

Cowardly?....

It takes guts knowing folks like you are going to eat them alive if they take a chance. But if we leave the comments of those outside the team and think about the team for a moment, it may seem more practicable. If there were injuries, say to manning, then who whould fill his position? Yes, probably Painter. Now how does Painter get experience playing? Do the coaches know how the 2nd string players play? They probably even have other reasons for putting in the 2nd string that even the Colts players don’t know. Enough said.

by thedonutman on Dec 27, 2009 7:58 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

IMHO

This is the worst thing I’ve seen in the NFL. I’m not sure what is worse, throwing a game or cheating to win games. IMHO I find this to be the most disgusting thing Polian has ever done.

"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."

by Colts Homer on Dec 27, 2009 7:58 PM EST reply actions  

haha

you have a right to say that. I have yet to see you say something even remotely intellegent

Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!

by coltsfan723 on Dec 27, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

im fucking pumped caldwell just promised the superbowl just like 18to88 said

"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing."
-Johnny Unitas-
"You're only as healthy as you feel."
-Travis Bickle-

by 805 on Dec 27, 2009 7:59 PM EST reply actions  

Caldwell and Polian can go fuck themselves

Seriously. Resting players is one thing. It’s something we have done for a long time in the organization. Yet you do it once you have the game won. Once it is virtually out of reach for the opponent. And you inform the fans who worship to expect the starters to only play a half. None of that happened. Instead, Caldwell threw in the towel because he literally did not want to win. At all. As a competitor, it is your job to win every game. You want to rest your players? Fine. Do it when the game is out of reach. Do it when you feel your players are getting too banged up. Don’t do it just to do it, and don’t do it in a way that screws the fans over. He basically told his players, “I won’t let you win this game.”

I just know that this team better win a damn Super Bowl, and Polian and Caldwell better have some damn good answers tomorrow. I’m completely ashamed of both of them. You don’t prevent you team from winning. You don’t quit football games. You don’t screw over your fan base. That is not what winners do. Luckily, the guys in pads, all of them, are winners, and although I have lost much respect for Polian and Caldwell, I will cheer on this team all the way to the Super Bowl.

"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning

by npb1985 on Dec 27, 2009 8:00 PM EST reply actions  

Dungy on NBC just defended the decision, saying it was...

more important to win in the post season than to win in the reg season.

I think we all agree that is true. My problem is, I don’t think it’s obvious that taking time off in the reg season actually helps you win in the post season.

May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.

by juperee on Dec 27, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions  

Resting the players was not the issue

Or it shouldn’t be. It’s how it was handled. Fans expected us to play to win, and we did the opposite. The players wanted to play. Caldwell did not let them. This wasn’t an example of resting player, this was forfeiting a game.

"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning

by npb1985 on Dec 27, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Caldwell deserves to be fired for this.

He acted like he was coaching the Lions instead of the Colts. Fire Caldwell or I’m not watching the NFL ever.

Philip Fitzsimmons says Padres rule,Dodgers suck!

by Philip Fitzsimmons on Dec 27, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course he defended it.

He doesn’t have the big picture either. I can’t begin to think of how many championships Manning would have if coaches didn’t yank him and kill his rhythm at the end season’s past. Peyton wants to play…..and so do the rest of the players. I trust Peyton way more than I do the current coach or any past coach. Unfortunately, he has to obey them even when they make stupid, wimpy decisions. And, it’s cost him championships.

by Ayrshire on Dec 27, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

is anyone getting any shit from theyre friends like i am

"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing."
-Johnny Unitas-
"You're only as healthy as you feel."
-Travis Bickle-

by 805 on Dec 27, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions  

hey faith im with you homie you can lean on me when that happens

"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing."
-Johnny Unitas-
"You're only as healthy as you feel."
-Travis Bickle-

by 805 on Dec 27, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

it's hard for them to give me shit

when i completely agree with everything they’re saying

by SuperNewb on Dec 27, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

OOOOOOOOOOOH SNAP

good one

"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing."
-Johnny Unitas-
"You're only as healthy as you feel."
-Travis Bickle-

by 805 on Dec 27, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

btw

i understand colts fans ive seen post 1000s of times here getting pissed or whatever, but whats with the people ive never seen before crawling out of the wood work?

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Dec 27, 2009 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

And they can't spell as well

Day care got out early I guess.

"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."

by Colts Homer on Dec 27, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats another thing

all these random people coming and creating profiles just to bash a team

Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!

by coltsfan723 on Dec 27, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

From http://www.72dolphins.com

    

 

During the 1972 season, Dolphins linebacker Nick Buoniconti teammates joked about a perfect season. “Which game are we going to lose?” they asked. “Nobody goes undefeated.”
A few have come close. The Bears in 1934, went 13-0 during the regular season, only to lose 30-13 in the Championship Game to the Giants. Eight years later, the Bears won all 11 regular season games but fell to the Redskins in the title game. Four other teams in NFL history were unbeaten, but not untied.

Miami had reached the Super Bowl in the previous season, but had been outclassed by Dallas 24-3. Even though the Dolphins had many stars on their offense with Bob Griese at QB, Paul Warfield at WR, and a trio of RB’s that included Larry Csonka, Jim Kiick, and Mercury Morris, the defense was named the “No-Name Defense”, due to the lack of the same.

Additionally, Griese had been lost during week five for the remainder of the season. That left matters up to 38 year old backup, Earl Morrall, to take charge.

During the AFC Championship game, they rallied to defeat the Pittsburgh Steelers 21-17. Even so, they entered the Super Bowl as underdogs against the Washington Redskins. “That was the final straw,” Csonka said.

The SuperBowl ended with Miami victorious at 14-7.

“If another team is good enough to go undefeated, more power to them,” says Bob Griese. Griese returned to lead the Dolphins in the AFC Championship and Super Bowl. “We will always be the first to have done that, which nobody can take away.”

Several years later, the 1985 Bears again were undefeated far into the season. Meeting the Dolphins on a Monday night game, the Bears found the Dolphins past and present too much to overcome. (The sidelines included the likes of Griese, Csonka, Warfield, etc., and over 20 other ’72 Dolphins)
The Dolphins quickly went ahead 28-0, and stopped the Bears winning streak at 11.

 
 

Philip Fitzsimmons says Padres rule,Dodgers suck!

by Philip Fitzsimmons on Dec 27, 2009 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

Will not renew season tickets.

I hate paying fullprice for preseason tickets. Now I go to the game hoping to see history being made and I get cheated. I feel I paid full price to see the best the Colts have to offer. Why didn’t they try to win this home (and go 15 -0 in front of their fans) and then if they want to rest players in Buffalo go for it. Now I won’t even watch the next game. I won’t renew my season tickets.

by JerryChum on Dec 27, 2009 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

Fire Caldwell, Hire Charlie Weis.

Philip Fitzsimmons says Padres rule,Dodgers suck!

by Philip Fitzsimmons on Dec 27, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions  

Same

"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."

by Colts Homer on Dec 27, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

dumbest thing

I have seen on here yet and today has been a FAIL fest for threads

Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!

by coltsfan723 on Dec 27, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Forfeit the Bills game

Under the Polian/Caldwell philosophy, we should worry that our guys could get hurt slipping on ice in front of the hotel. Peyton did almost slip and fall in the tunnel at the Baltimore game. Also, didn’t Jackson get an IR injury in practice? Better not practice anymore then.

by FineClub on Dec 27, 2009 8:05 PM EST reply actions  

HEY PEOPLE AT LEAST WE DIDN'T LOSE THE GAME WITH OUR STARTERS LIKE THE SAINTS

twice in a row HAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing."
-Johnny Unitas-
"You're only as healthy as you feel."
-Travis Bickle-

by 805 on Dec 27, 2009 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

true, if we win the superbowl which we can some of this will go away, but if we lose i dont want to think about it.

my biggest worry is how it effects the players and i think it will kill there morall

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!

by TheAngelsColts on Dec 27, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

how is it that ur the only one that gets me

thanks man ur angry when im angry and ur chill when im chill, true fan right here angelsfaith is a true fan

"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing."
-Johnny Unitas-
"You're only as healthy as you feel."
-Travis Bickle-

by 805 on Dec 27, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

its just the facts

first i still love the team just lost a lot of respect for caldwell and that press conference didn’t help. if you noticed all the media hasn’t done what people thought especially not the players they are pointing out the truth (keyshawn johnson included)

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!

by TheAngelsColts on Dec 27, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

ur always right man

true true

"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing."
-Johnny Unitas-
"You're only as healthy as you feel."
-Travis Bickle-

by 805 on Dec 27, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

The Saints lost

to the Bucs with their starters and people are worried about this teams chances in the playoffs?

Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!

by coltsfan723 on Dec 27, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Who thinks the Saints could win the Super Bowl?

Not I

"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."

by Colts Homer on Dec 27, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

yeh man but at least sean payton didnt give up

"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing."
-Johnny Unitas-
"You're only as healthy as you feel."
-Travis Bickle-

by 805 on Dec 27, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

...

I was completely for going 16-0, but isn’t it funny how everyone who was so anti-16-0 and afraid of injuries seems to be pissed off all of a sudden…the beauty of football…from the outside and when it isn’t the here and the now, people applaud the decision to rest starters, but all of a sudden, everyone is “off with polian and caldwell’s head mode”.

Regardless, this…was…pathetic. It was also embarrassing and disgraceful to the game.

by Z.Pain on Dec 27, 2009 8:08 PM EST reply actions  

Well because we were actually winning the game... If we had simply not even started Manning, this wouldn't have bothered me as much.

Just go out and win the freaking game. We were dominating the Jets “vaunted” defense. Our pass protection was so good that Manning wasn’t touched even on an 8 man blitz….

Why not go on one more drive try to get a 2 possession lead and have Painter nurse a lead with the run?

by Justin Pugh on Dec 27, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

If we do win the SB

How much worse will it be that management pissed away a shot at 19-0?

by LBizZLE on Dec 27, 2009 8:08 PM EST reply actions  

I won't give a shit what we did

The problem is that I think the Super Bowl became a much harder object to reach now.

"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."

by Colts Homer on Dec 27, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

almost no pressure at all for an undefeated team this late in the season

and now all the pressure in the world to prove it was the right decision to give up on history

by thebossuzzi on Dec 27, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

this I agree with

I worry that there will be so much more attention being paid now than if we had gone 15-0. Now the press will be negative and a bother.

At least we won’t have to hear about “karma, bitches!” if someone decides to register a trademark on “19-0” before a SB loss.

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Dec 28, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

If you don't like to win all your games...

If you don’t like to compete and win each game, then lobby for less games if you don’t
think your players are up to it. Understanding the Superbowl is the big prize, but trying
to lose a reular season game when you are on the cusp of another great acheivement
is just nuts. If the Colts players can get past this then they will be beyond super.
Head coach and GM need to re-think this one. They owe the players and fans big time.
Again if they had lost 1 or 2 games and were in the same driver seat, different story and strategy

by Daniel H. on Dec 27, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions  

what really hurts is that

Peyton deserves better than this, i hope the MSM feels as bad for him as i am ,and give him his credit

by thebossuzzi on Dec 27, 2009 8:10 PM EST reply actions  

nope

if we lose in the playoffs the scrutiny will be WORSE THAN EVER BEFORE

by LBizZLE on Dec 27, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Please remember...

at half-time, it was 9-3 with the Colts 1st string playing. Could the Jets win the game if the Colts 1st string played second half? Hmmm……

by thedonutman on Dec 27, 2009 8:12 PM EST reply actions  

They wouldn't have won

Peyton wouldn’t have gotten strip sacked because the ball would already be in the air.

"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."

by Colts Homer on Dec 27, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes they do...

they broke the Colts winning streak.

by thedonutman on Dec 27, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Sanchez would have slid head first eventually

He would have thrown an INT because that’s what he does. Barely anyone blocked Freeney. Manning would have gotten 3rd down conversions because they’re #1 in the league in that category. Feely would have missed another FG. Rex Ryan would have exploded on the sideline. It’s inevitable.

by Gwen on Dec 27, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember...

when the Jets held the Colts from scoring a touchdown with 1 and 10. Colts had to settle for a field goal. this was in the first half. this does not sound like a power house offense to me.

by thedonutman on Dec 27, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes I do

I have a crystal ball. The Jets weren’t lighting it up when the starters were playing

by Gwen on Dec 27, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

what??

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!

by TheAngelsColts on Dec 27, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Look through the computer...

And look me in the eyes and tell me you believed that for one second after we went up 15-10, that we were in danger of losing this game?

The Jets offense was barely and I mean barely making any headway offensively. They were helped by the their special teams, granted, but the Jets offense wasn’t going to beat the Indianapolis Colts.

by Justin Pugh on Dec 27, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

They got

nothing to brag about

Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!

by coltsfan723 on Dec 27, 2009 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

They are saying...

We don’t care how we got it… We got the win and next week if we win, we’re in!

Much like I don’t care where it comes from, but if a bag filled with one hundred dollar bills fell from the sky, I’m not asking any questions!

by Justin Pugh on Dec 27, 2009 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

WHAT JUST HAPPENED

I am a Season Ticket Holder and I have paid good $ to see the Colts WIN and lose. Save Peyton, save Reggie, save Dallas? Sure, that’s all well and good, but they get PAID well to take a risk and we FANS deserve to see a 15-0 in the LAST HOME GAME OF 2009 in our warm Stadium! Polain, Caldwell and Moore screwed us all! What a disappointment! Sad day in the History of the Indpls Colts.

by coltsluver09 on Dec 27, 2009 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

I hate patriots, but at least their coaching staff doesn’t give away games. This win was a win for the fans which is the most important. If they were trying to avoid injuries, Manning should have only played the first series.

Hail Manning

by Ash Williams on Dec 27, 2009 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

Look, I understand the decision sucks, but come on, let's move on.

It’s not going to help us at all worrying about what has already happened. I saw some really good things from the team in the first half. Some bad, some good. I think a few of Peyton’s overthrows had to do with him trying to do too much, too quickly.

by diagenesis on Dec 27, 2009 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

move on?

This decision will be remembered a VERY long time, SB or not

by LBizZLE on Dec 27, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Move on???? Give me a break…. this one will be hard to get over.

by coltsluver09 on Dec 27, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

oh all right, but I will. There are better things to do for me as a football fan than be angry over something

that has already happened.. something that isn’t that important in the grand scheme of things.

by diagenesis on Dec 27, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

but its OK for you to be happy over it?

hows that any different. I hope to get an answer.

Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.

by SpazMo on Dec 27, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm quite upset and disappointed about it. Not happy.

Just not angry enough to give up on the coach, GM, and owner over it. Or to blame a rookie about it. I’m not saying you have, but that’s what I saw a lot of and it is also disappointing to see fans being all fickle and fatalistic b/c of one (very) poor decision.

Just personally, I’m looking ahead and not back. Media’s going to give us crap about it, other fans are going to give us crap about, the team’s going to hear about it from all directions as well. I as a fan will at least support the entire team the way I know best by not doing the same.

by diagenesis on Dec 27, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope this isn’t what happens to the colts when Manning retires.

Hail Manning

by Ash Williams on Dec 27, 2009 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

I am a Chiefs fan...

and I am stick to my stomach. I was rooting for Manning all year, and I wanted to see history. I can only imagine, how you all feel.

by davidv on Dec 27, 2009 8:18 PM EST reply actions  

bad

cuz we deserved to know they were going to do this, they gave us hope in vain , now how many coaches will be mad at Polian who presides the competition thing in the nfl? how do you tell its ok to screw everyones playoff hopes , we are getting close to be as hated as the pats we are hated by the media now the fans will also hate us

by thebossuzzi on Dec 27, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Like a big kick in the nuts!

I was ready to spend a lot of money on memorabilia from this season… If we win the Superbowl, great… I’m still going to be happy… but a little piece of me will always think about the season that could have been the greatest season in NFL history!

by Justin Pugh on Dec 27, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

In order to remain rationale...

I’m going to need more of this… I’m trying my hardest to just move on, but a little small sliver of me will still think of the season that was, if we do win the Superbowl…

by Justin Pugh on Dec 27, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Freeney on IR and a horrible running game.

Those are the reasons for the last 2 playoff loses to the Chargers. Not because the starters were pulled for part of a game.

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by Mojo1 on Dec 27, 2009 8:20 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES

All players of the Colts will have to ask themselves WHAT IF.
They will NEVER KNOW

Last week, Favre disobeyed his coach and went on the field after the coach tried to bench him. He flat out refused and went on the field.

I WISH PEYTON DID THAT.

by Snowball on Dec 27, 2009 8:23 PM EST reply actions  

Now that isn't something I want...

You follow the orders you are given… No matter how much you may disagree with the decision, you let the coach take the heat on the decision, but Manning can rest his head at night knowing that he could have done better or that the game wasn’t lost at his hands…

Manning did the right thing. Stand by your leader and take your orders…

Brett Farve is an idiot, that thinks he is above his team… He did what he did because he could and what it showed is that Farve run the Minnesota Vikings and not Brad Childress… There is a reason why I believe they are 1 & Done…

Leadership plays a large role in winning and right now the Vikings don’t have great leadership!

by Justin Pugh on Dec 27, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Any perceived advantage from resting those players just evaporated. Does it hurt the team in the playoffs? no, it really shouldnt. But, 2 quarters of rest was completely canceled out by telling the team its okay to quit in a tough close battle.

by spinz on Dec 27, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions  

Am I the only one...

who doesn’t really give a shit about this? I wasn’t surprised in the least. I was actually surprised Manning came out in the 3rd quarter at all. If Manning, Wayne, Collie, or anyone else got hurt, people would be bitching about Caldwell gaming away our post-season chances on a game that had nothing at stake.

This will all be a distant memory come playoff time. They played enough to stay sharp and all the starters came out without injuries (that we know of). Mission accomplished.

by tenyardfight on Dec 27, 2009 8:27 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!

by coltsfan723 on Dec 27, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

yes it will

because we’ll be too wounded from another playoff loss.

by tenyardfight on Dec 27, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess

I didn’t expect the Colts’ starters to play much at all today and wasn’t surprised in the least when they went out. What did we all really expect when they signed Willy up from the practice squad? That was a clear signal.

The last time we all got extremely pissed at the coaches and organization was in the 2006 season when the defense looked ridiculous. At the end of that season, Polian and company could do no wrong, no one cared about the regular season problems, and the defensive turn around was again more proof that we have one of the best organizations in the league.

Despite what happened today, all of that is still true.

by tenyardfight on Dec 27, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

But do you really think the players are going to dwell on this though? They are going to prepare for the next game. They knew there was a chance that they would be pulled and the second string would go in. I really don’t think they are going to hold anything against Caldwell or Polian. Yeah it really sucked at the time but I really don’t think they are going to hold it against them when the team is still going for the Super Bowl. That’s been the ultimate goal the whole season anyway….

by leb_03 on Dec 28, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah you're the only one

and that strategy is so not the way to go through football or life, scared of taking a chance, scared of reaching your true potential, being the best

by LBizZLE on Dec 27, 2009 8:28 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

its just one of those things…you don’t take out a pitcher throwing a perfect game in the bottom of the 9th because hes thrown 110 pitches.

by spinz on Dec 27, 2009 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

Well we have the terrible running game.

Thanks BBS. Why doesn’t someone call in the Polian show and get him his. Let’s face it. when it really comes down to it….POLIAN IS A LOSER!!!!!! He should not be allowed to impact game decisions…and I would bet Caldwell succumbed to pressure from the front office. I bet Polian was sitting up in his ivory tower on a cushion of his enormous ego, smiling when he was proven right. If we don’t win the SuperBowl, I move he is forced into early retirement…..

by peterbones on Dec 27, 2009 8:33 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah,

he’s a loser. He only built one of the consistently best franchises in the NFL. He only drafted the best QB to play the game. He only built the team that brought Indy its first Superbowl. Yeah, what a fucking idiot. We should get rid of him and get someone else.

by tenyardfight on Dec 27, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

He drafted Manning. That was his claim to fame really.

Tonight’s decision has solidified him forever as a clueless idiot.

by Ayrshire on Dec 27, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a different issue

Polian is the best in the business at evaluating talent but his beliefs on resting players and monentum are a different story.

Jim Caldwell is the head coach and because of his job title should make the decision to rest or not pull starters. But Polian used him as a puppet and I lost some respect for him today.

by Playoff Pride on Dec 27, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

You are 100% correct.

Polians beliefs on resting players and momentum are a joke. It’s never worked once, yet he keeps on trying the same stupid things. And, yes, Caldwell is a complete puppet.

by Ayrshire on Dec 27, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe the Polians are cursing Indiana...

Bill’s son Brian was special teams coach at Notre Dame…and look at some of the bad games his team had. The Polians are cursing Indiana football.

Philip Fitzsimmons says Padres rule,Dodgers suck!

by Philip Fitzsimmons on Dec 27, 2009 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

yes

because 115 regular season wins is “cursing” a franchise….get a clue!

Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!

by coltsfan723 on Dec 28, 2009 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Caldwell is a rookie coach who has a horrible record when he was in college.

It looked like he acted more like a high school dropout than a coach who was 14-0 in his NFL coaching career.

Philip Fitzsimmons says Padres rule,Dodgers suck!

by Philip Fitzsimmons on Dec 27, 2009 8:45 PM EST reply actions  

I wonder what formere Purdue coach Joe Tiller is doing right now...

His 3 QB’s he coached:
Painter handed the Colts their 1st loss.
Orton continues his downward spiral as Philly beat the Broncos.
And Brees and the Saints were embarrassed by a bad Tampa team.
If I were Tiller, I’d be in a witness protection program after seeing those 3 QB’s he coached fail today.

Philip Fitzsimmons says Padres rule,Dodgers suck!

by Philip Fitzsimmons on Dec 27, 2009 8:49 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe the Coach thinks he needs to lose to win

Before giving anyone a world-class, unbeaten, regular season team with the will-be all- time best nfl quarterback, maybe the colts management should ask (faced with an unbeaten season, are you capable with going all the way?) It’s obvious, Caldwell is not. This coach is just as much as rookie as the quarterback he put on the field. But, he will be famous as the coach that led a superbowl team and gave up a perfect record top let a few players rest. He is a loser thinking he’s dreaming.

by Onceabeliever on Dec 27, 2009 8:52 PM EST reply actions  

4 the love of the game

the NFL should take action to this kind of decision. i really dont understand the reason why teams have to give weekly injury report for the honor of the game but the colts dont hv to be held accounted for this. i think its unfair to all the other 31 teams[especially in those division/conference who is fighting for their live] to hv a game handed to the jets like that. i think the colts should be fine for the love of the game.

by troopie06 on Dec 27, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions  

barf

i was for resting players but we are too close. how many times are we going to have the opportunity for a perfect season? we pretty much had it won if we won today considering that we are playing the bills next week. this is peyton’s team and caldwell should recognize that and do what peyton says. caldwell sucks.

by coltsgolfbeer on Dec 27, 2009 9:39 PM EST reply actions  

this just speaks to calwell pedigree. why would u deny your self and your players a chance at history…. the super bowl is not guaranteed, u fool. i thought u fight all this way to get home field advantage. thus getting a bye week. if u wanted to rest players, that would be the time to do it….

by troopie06 on Dec 27, 2009 9:59 PM EST reply actions  

Reasons why this matters

The reason why people are SO upset is the fact that the offense was clicking on all cylinder, shit our RUN game was tearing the jets up and they have the #1 rated defense in the NFL. The reason why people are so upset is that it appears that even though Polian calls the shots, he basically said fuck you to every Colts fan in the world by telling his starters to sit down and let the second stringers lose a game that we should have blown out of the water. Whether or not you believe in momentum, it was essential to get everyone who will be playing in the playoffs playing in a game that does mean sometime, and fuck yes it meant something. This game meant being one step closer to being 16-0 and possibly going 19-0. It meant cementing a legacy that is the Colts of this decade and shoving a dagger right into the heart of every Patriots fanboy at ESPN. The Colts accomplished everything they had this year and in years past by working hard and being consistent, not cheating and doping their way to Super bowl rings. I don’t care how you argue it, but today’s game really hurt me as a fan and Polian basically said it is alright to lay down and kick the bucket. Someone may get hurt, sure, but that is true in EVERY football game, whether you are 0-0 or 14-0. The fact of the matter is Polian let something truly magical slip away and ripped it away from the die hard fans in Indianapolis. We deserved to have that 16-0 season and possibly 19-0 season just to show everyone just how talented this football team is and to shut the mouths of some of the most ignorant, annoying sportscasters in the world. I will continue to root for my boys in blue, but this really hurts.

by Tiqabar on Dec 27, 2009 10:19 PM EST reply actions  

deeply disappointed

I have watched football since 1958, have seen dozens of teams play meaningless games with and without starters. However, this was first time that I can state that a team actually conceded a game. I would have respected Colts more, if Manning was in for just one quarter, with the rest of starters at least being used on occasion. Polian said on his radio show last week,,it was Colts goal to be 15-0 and winning was extremely important.
My biggest objection was the timing,,Colts with 5 point lead and ball on their own 9 yard line,,to pull all the starters in skill positions, and place a qb with no game experience.
One could easily see the difference in intensity of the defense, once this was done. The players knew management has conceded the game. This especially bothers me because its a home game,,the fans deserve better. At the very least, they should have had Manning direct the team to near midfield. Also once Jets took the lead,,,Manning should have had a chance to recapture it

by oldnjcoltsfan on Dec 27, 2009 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

A cynical part of me wants to think that the Colts management screwed the fans who showed up at the game. They played for a meaningless win last week…if they rested their starters and lost, no one would have showed up for the game today! So they got the fans to brave the snow and cold to fill up the stadium for the last home game, got some food and beer in them and merch on them, then pulled the starters.

If the Colts were in starter resting mode, they should have just played them enough to keep the game under control, and then rest them next week. Most of the backups I think could have held down the fort against the Bills.

I’m tired of the team resting the starters and then watching them show up for a humiliating early playoff loss because they’re rusty. The Colts somehow managed to win a Super Bowl being forced to play through. I don’t think it would have been a bad thing to go for it.

And I for one WAS booing Curtis Painter. I know there’s a lot of Sorgi hate on this blog, and that even if Sorgi was healthy that Painter should be the #2 guy, but I don’t recall Sorgi staring at his target a solid 3 seconds before throwing on every passing down.

by JaysonAych on Dec 27, 2009 11:07 PM EST reply actions  

Oops

“…and that some say even if Sorgi was healthy…” I meant.

by JaysonAych on Dec 27, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Disgusting!!!

I am totally disgusted by so called professional football. It was blatantly obvious that the Colts Coach threw the game not only to protect his precious asset (Manning) but to NOT go into the Playoffs unbeaten because he is superstitous that no other team has done it since the 73 Dolphins. To me, this guy should be cut loose and replaced by a Winner. I wouldn’t even care if they won the Superbowl, in my eyes they would still be losers. solely because of their fearful coach. It was obvious that Manning and they rest of the team wanted to play and win. NFL Football has OFFICIALLY become nothing but a MONEY MAKING tool instead of what it was created to be, a wonderful game that pitted two opponents with the sole purpose of seeing who was better(for that Sunday).I remember when it was fun to play and watch. I loved seeing the players continue to play even when they were still injured, all because of the will to win. Nowadays penalties are thrown because one player looked at another player the wrong way. I played 12 years and that display today has made me give up watching so call Professional Football ever again. Good Luck to everyone. I am done with it.

by Bandit2237 on Dec 27, 2009 11:41 PM EST reply actions  

cheating

this is one of those moment when i dont believe sports. it makes u cant help in thinking there was foul play…. what was the real reason to throw this game because this doesnt make sense to me… maybe im just angry and not thinking rationally but this suck to the 100 power..

by troopie06 on Dec 28, 2009 4:29 AM EST reply actions  

colts loss

This game was completely fixed. The credibility of this sport ended today with this Colts loss. I should have known something was up when the line for this game dropped almost two points shortly before the start of this game. The Jets players were not even that excited that they won. They knew they were going to win because that is where all the money was being bet. Peyton should feel complete disgust for this organization because they sold him out!!!!!

by vidman on Dec 28, 2009 7:18 AM EST reply actions  

Mgmt knew it wasn't Painter they were booing..

Management Polian specifically & ownership need to be ashamed of themselves.Caldwell has to do what his bosses tell him.I still love the players & will always support them but mgmt can choke on it. Every year they’ve rested the starters they get bounced 1 & done style.A team with a winning percentage as high as theirs only has 1 SB ring.That yr they had to play every week.Polian was 0-4 in Buffalo & we’re supposed to believe his strategy works.A player can be hurt reg. season or the 1st snap of the playoffs i.e. Carson Palmer.I’ve saw a lot of corporations state they are not renewing their suites or season tix. because of this.Fans paid hard earned $ & this is what they get not to mention a slap in the face to Peyton as they didn’t give him the opportunity to play for the record.Say what you want about the Pats but I’ve always respected the fact they have b.a.l.l.s. & truth be told if they played during the ’72 Dolphin era technically they beat their record.

by blair77199 on Dec 28, 2009 7:54 PM EST reply actions  

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