Update on Bill Polian supposedly storming off from his radio show last night
by Brad Wells on Dec 29, 2009 10:47 AM EST
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PrintLike you, I'm sick of reading about Bill Polian (much less writing about him), but I received an important update on the situation that happened last night on his show.
My pal Eric Hartz, who is one of the better people at ColtPower.com, sent me an email suggesting that the HANK FM feed might have been the reason the show went dead at roughly ten minutes prior to the show ending, which is also the point when we all think Polian supposedly stormed off the set of his radio show.
Eric was listening to the show on 1070 The Fan, which is on AM and carries the Bill Polian Show along with 97.1 HANK FM (the show's main station). For him, the show was not cut short, and the final caller was not cut-off. After the last caller (and, I'm assuming, a commerical break), Bob Lamey came back on air and wrapped up the show. I'm trying to confirm if it was Lamey, and only Lamey, that did the show wrap-up. Usually, Polian sticks around to do the wrap-up with Lamey, talking about the next opponent, the playoffs, answering any final questions, etc. If it was only Lamey doing the show wrap-up, that seems to suggest Polian did storm off the set, just not at the time we originally thought he did.
Regardless of whether he left the show early or not, Polian's treatment of fans last night was disrespectful, rude, and unbecoming of a team president. He owes the fans an apology.
Again, reading and writing about Bill Polian right now has me feeling about as sick as you do. But, with an important update like this from a strong and reliable source like Eric, I gotta post it. Thanks in advance for understanding.
[UPDATE]: Kent Sterling of 1070 The Fan posted an entry on the station's website offering some clarity on what happened last night with the Bill Polian Show:
There are people out there spreading an ill-informed and spurrious rumor that Bill Polian left his show in a fit of anger before the show ended. That did not happen.The last segment of the show timed out at almost exactly one-minute. Bob Lamey took that minute to promote the upcoming game, and that minute was not long enough to do anything but thank Polian and do the live promo, so I'm sure Bob excused Polian.
The Polian Show, as with every radio show, has a certain amount of commercial content that must be played. The first segment that generally ends at 6:13p or so ended last night at 6:23p. That forced the rest of the show to feature a denser load of commercials, and that debt was satisfied toward the end of the show.
Thanks for the information, Kent. However, the unnecessary and passive-aggressive swipe at us people supposedly "spreading an ill-informed and spurrious rumor" kind of makes you sound like an ass.
The show is billed as "The Bill Polian Show on 97.1 HANK FM." So, it doesn't make much sense for anyone to contact 1070 The Fan and ask why the show went dead for HANK FM listeners at the 6:50pm mark. As we noted, is was HORRIBLE timing for HANK FM's feed to switch to commercials and music filler while Polian was engaged in a rather heated debate with a male caller. And if it was done to "feature a denser load of commercials," then that was an equally horrible programming decision.
The perception of every fan listening when Polian and the fourth caller were switched off in favor of music filler was that something had happened on the show (which is on delay), forcing the producers to effectively "cut to commercial."
Also, let's make one thing very clear, Stampede Blue never stated emphatically that Polian "stormed off the set." We said it seemed as if he did, because like thousands of other listeners to the HANK FM, that is what it sounded like.
Regardless of whether Polian stormed off or he didn't, that doesn't change the fact that Polian acted like a complete horse's ass last night on his show, treating respectful, articulate callers as if they were school children not worthy of his brainwave level. It is that, and statements made after the game on Sunday, that has made Colts fans so livid with Bill Polian; not any rumors that he stormed off a radio set.
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Dumbest Thing Fans Could Do
If Bill Polian is ran out of this city by an angry mob of spoiled idiots we will pay for it dearly! He could resign and go to Seattle in a heartbeat. People need to realize that everyone makes decisions that some people don’t like, you now need to get over it. Leave him alone and move on!
The fans are justified
What Polian’s forgetting in all this is that ultimately the NFL, and all professional sports, is ENTERTAINMENT. Everyone, including me, loses perspective that we’re watching this stuff as an escape. So what Bill did was screw us, the paying customers by giving us a 2nd rate show when he pulled all his stars. In the rest of the world, there would be some avenue to get our money back for purchasing a crappy product. Since we can’t do that with him, all the venom is justified as the only outlet for us getting screwed.
by Reds_Colts1975 on Dec 29, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Real fans dont need to whine about 1 game. what about the 13 straight home winning streak?
for 13 straight home games all that season ticket had has been the joy of victory and you think you bought a crappy product? If you were a Lion’s fan with a 0-16 record then i would have to agree with you ,but how many season ticket holder have had a 14-1 or 14-2 season to backup their purchase?
by thebossuzzi on Dec 29, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Justifying losing
Is not what real fans do. Taking an argument to the “Well you’re obviously not a fan blah blah blah..” is a total cop-out. That’s not making a point, that’s name calling and insulting because everyone’s not eating chocolate and skipping through grassy fields with butterflies. Your superiority complex deserves a round of applause.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Dec 29, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
my comment was to point out how spoiled we are. thanks
by thebossuzzi on Dec 29, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
We aren't spoiled
We are just used to excellence. We cringe when the word FAIL is put next to the word COLTS, that’s all. Yes, if we were Detroit fans, we’d LOVE to be 14-1, but that’s because Detroit has sucked for a long time. They are used to FAIL, and would gladly accept excellence, or even mediocrity.
Just because we have a great team and are used to them winning, this doesn’t make us “spoiled.”
Check it to Pancakes! Pancakes!
The Colts: We play more football in the fourth quarter than some teams play all year!
Also, truly great teams don't pack it in and 'quit'...
especially with history on the line.
what make us spoiled...
Is that we take winning for granted , we had so many people injured , do you want to risk losing Peyton with out Johnson , Diem and Addai? Addai is our best blitz blocker and he was injured on that game, do you want to risk a so far kind of fragile Donald Brown if addai is already hurt? take a step back and look at the big picture.
What the Colts are doing will not last forever ,someday our team will be a big FAIL once more, dont take winning for granted my friend and support your team.
by thebossuzzi on Dec 29, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
I had no problem with sitting the injured
But they were sitting the healthy. Playing Painter increased the risk of injury to everyone on that field with him. Playing close to 70% of the game and all of a sudden pulling Peyton as soon as he went over 50k yards (which was identical to playing Marvin to get a receptions record) would be completely irresponsible. But it happened. So justifying the move by saying it’s due to “health reasons” is a straight out lie. If that were true, Peyton wouldn’t have even started the game. But we have a consecutive start streak record to worry about now don’t we? Blasting fans who bring this up is not only engaging in doublespeak, it’s wrong.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Dec 29, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Sitting the Injured
could play into sitting the healthy… If Addai’s injury was serious then that just shows that anything could happen and if the game is meaningless as it is because everything that MATTERS for playoff positioning is wrapped up there’s no need to keep integral parts of the team out there to possibly get hurt.
Obviously none of us will ever know if anybody would’ve actually gotten hurt and most likely, no one would’ve gotten hurt but would you really want to take a chance with 18 or 87 or anybody else that is going to be integral to a deep playoff run?
16-0 is great but it’s not the most important thing. As we’ve seen here there have been opposing points of view on this subject and I’m not aksing you to agree with me but I’m sure you can understand the other point of view.
I'm not disagreeing
My point is that they should’ve done that from the beginning if that was their intention. They didn’t, they were trying to win the game, they messed up and nobody wants to accept the blame so they cite “We do it every year! Don’t act like we didn’t tell you!”. And giving the fans that say, “Uh-huh….riiiiight.” a flaberghasted (sp?) look and the finger.
Have Peyton take one snap, kneel down, and put Painter in and go 14-1. I’m cool with that. But don’t act like it was the master plan from the get-go so stop bitching you silly fans you.
That's a BINGO!
But
you don’t think the plan could’ve changed after certain people, namely Addai, got hurt during the game. Maybe after that, whether the injury was severe or not, could’ve altered the way they were going to go about things.
I agree that they shouldn’t have given fans false hope by being quiet about how much the team would play and all that leading up to the game and then just abruptly pull Manning with 5 minutes left in the 3rd but if people were really getting nicked up I wouldn’t want to take the chance with anyone else. Just my view on it.
by NYKings on Dec 29, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree.
Sitting the “healthy”, is giving them a much needed break.
by agradecimiento a dios on Dec 29, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
As bad as the Lions are at least they try to win each and every game they play.
by Ufanforreal on Dec 29, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
go root for them then...
im sorry, im sick of this…
sunday i was mad also, not for the decision but for the timing i guess Caldwell overestimated his backup team.
But today im mad about how are we trying to burn an organization that has won more than anyone else for just 1 game. im sick sorry
by thebossuzzi on Dec 29, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Do you get
that there are several of us who are actually taking into account more than just one season? That maybe, just maybe, this isn’t about just 2009?
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Dec 29, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
There's still nothing definitively wrong with the move.
Guys were dinged up, not completely fresh and healthy They got their rest.
by agradecimiento a dios on Dec 29, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
Entertainment? Get a grip!
Go back to Pre-Polian days…. Yeah, that’s right, you don’t want to remember those days, do you? Be glad we have this football genius. 23 game winning streaks come with SMART front offices. Quit crying already, you’re making Colt fans look like idiots. If you think it’s a second rate show…. don’t watch it. Go read up on your Reds until baseball starts.
Bruin-4-Life!!!
by dwdbruin on Dec 29, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Whatever dude
Dickerson totally had a sweet Monday night game back in like 88. You’re crazy man.
You have to admit the ’95 season was entertaining until the very end though.
That's a BINGO!
If he did that
I wouldn’t want him anyway. If anyone thinks they’re above criticism they’re wrong. I would hope he wouldn’t do that, but like I said, if he did I’d wave at him and apologize to the Seahawks fans for getting someone who takes their ball and goes home.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Dec 29, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
He was great for the team..
But you’re right. If that’s all it takes for him to leave, well then good riddance.
by HappyLittleTreez on Dec 29, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Everyone is way too mad about this. Please take a step back, get some perspective, and stop being so hot-headed.
by jaredtaskin1 on Dec 29, 2009 10:56 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Big Blue Shoe is out of control....
Dude, you need to chill. Please go read the article on 18to88 by Deshawn Zombie. The idea of fans making football decisions for the team is absolutely crazy. Let management do their jobs. If you don’t agree with one of their decisions, fine, let your thoughts be know. However, you are acting like Polian is a waiter at a restaurant who needs to cater to your every need. That is perhaps the stupiest thing I have ever heard.
by Don Booza on Dec 29, 2009 11:00 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
AMEN!
You have to look at this man’s body of work. That point alone would tell you that you may think you got the shaft on this ONE GAME but he has given you 115 reason this decade, the last 23 in a row, to forgive this one thing you might dislike!
That's the point
He is. Oh Polian doesn’t just have 115 wins this decade under his management, he has his tenure with the Bills and 4 consecutive Super Bowl appearances to back that up. His skills of scouting talent and player management are epic. However, he does not need to be making decisions on the field of play for 60 minutes a week for 16 weeks out of the year. That’s called micromanaging.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Dec 29, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Exaggeration?
I love your posts, but respectfully disagree with you a lot on this topic.
On this point particularly, why do you think Polian micrmanages 60 × 16? Do you know something I don’t? I don’t think that this one area equates to continuous micromanaging. I agree with you that the GM need to let the coaches coach, and Polian should’ve done that in this area as well. However, that fact that he didn’t doesn’t equate that he micromanages everything on the field. Don’t make him into Daniel Snyder or Jerry Jones. He feels strongly on this issue, but that’s a far cry from the extreme.
by coltsfanawalt on Dec 29, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
btw, monstersbox
I forget. Are you one of the fans that always opposes resting starters, or is it just this season with the record on the line?
by coltsfanawalt on Dec 29, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not opposed to it
When it makes sense. But in this particular game, at that particular point in time and with what happened up until that point in the game (Diem knocked elbows in the first quarter, some guys WERE playing hurt) it didn’t make sense. It didn’t make sense if that was this what the rule etched in stone, with no room for interpretation. Otherwise they would’ve sat for the Jaguars game. Garcon hurt his hand and he’s out. Collie was starting along with Reggie. What if either of them had been hurt? If the entire premise is to preserve the health of the athletes, Peyton along with the rest of the starters would have been pulled in both the Arizona and the St. Louis game.
My entire sticking point on this (I’m really not too upset over it to be honest, but these guys don’t know who I am for the most part so it’s SO easy to get a rise out of them and I have a sardonic sense of humor) is that BP and co. obviously left the players out there to achieve individual records and have done so in the past. Using the “benching players to be fresh for the playoffs” has not worked one time in Polian’s tenure as a GM of any team. To me it just seems like it was an excuse because they fucked up and want the blame for the loss to just poof vanish. Someone is supposed to be held accountable and responsible for every loss, that’s why they have the post-game interviews. They did not think they were going to lose this game. They couldn’t have predicted Painter throwing an INT and fumbling it away for a TD. They honestly thought they were going to go 15-0 and they didn’t. As opposed to saying “You know, that probably wasn’t the right call.”, they cited talking points just like a politician would. I’m a bit fed up with all the coach-speak we always get and this just grinds my gears (The Family Guy rocks my socks). It’s been obvious in previous seasons and situations that if the players health was the #1 priority and these games were “meaningless” then Marvin wouldn’t have his receptions record, Peyton wouldn’t have gone over 50k yards this season, his consecutive starts streak etc. But like I said, they didn’t think we were going to lose and instead of going “Oops, we kind of got egg on our face on that one.” they wag their fingers at the fans and say “We TOLD you so!” I’m not clairvoyant, but when you lay the cards out for me to see, I’m not going to say “Ooo, puppies and kittens! Let’s skip through the forest!” like I should bow down to the all mighty management.
That's a BINGO!
So in your opinion..
Criticism is only doled out to people in the service industry? You’re right, let management do their jobs. Management’s job is to hire a coach to make these decisions and focus on putting the right players and coaches in place to succeed. An officer in the military doesn’t tell a NCOIC how to manage his men. The point of hierarchy works both ways.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Dec 29, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
No
But your decision to stick your fingers in your ears, close your eyes and shout “NUHHH NUHH NUHH! I LOVE YOU BILL!” is duly noted.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Dec 29, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
wow
did you spend all mornign coming up with that?
Seriously, get some damn perspective. To channel one of BigBlueShoe’s favorite tactics on here, anyone who didn’t think sitting starters at some point was a possibility is AN IDIOT WHO DOESN’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL!!
Wow, it actually is fun to just rage at people and call them stupid.
Bill Polian took this team from SHIT to annual super bowl contender. I think, and this is a wild guess, that he knows what he is doing more than any joker on this or any other website. Myself included. I think I’m going to trust the guy that since 1988 has taken teams he has GM’d to the playoffs every time except 3. Two of those were his first year with the respective team.
I’m guessing about 80% of the Batshit Crazy Contingent of Colts fans would be howling just as loud if Manning had his femur snapped by some Jets blitzing LB in the 4th quarter. “How dare you risk him like that!! We deserve better!! You ruined our chances of a super bowl!!”
I had no idea so many Colts fans a) Forget 1-13 and b) are whiny little babies who seem to forget that having a team healthy for a Super Bowl is more important than beating up on a couple mediocre to shitty AFC East teams.
Get some damn perspective.
by jdb on Dec 29, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If that were the case
Letting him play until the end of the third quarter was outrageously absurd of good ’ol Bill. He was probably distracted with you swinging on his nutsack though. By the way, that zinger I thought up on the fly, the first one took about 7 seconds.
Congratulations on arguing regular season success while all us “crazy bat-shit fans” are concerned about the playoffs. It’s actually a little humorous that the ones that seem to actually “get” that particular point are the ones that are being called spoiled and need of perspective.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Dec 29, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
*sigh*
when you can’t make coherent arguments, just make dick sucking jokes.
Also, since you didn’t just say it, sitting starters at the end of the season has nothign to do with postseason success. Correlation is not causation. Remember: The Poilian GM’d Bills regularly sat starters when they could at the end of a season. They went to 4 Super Bowls. 18to88 had a really good breakdown of 05, 07 and 08 and why the argument that sittign the starters caused the losses is false.
But by all means, keep usign your stale argument. it sounds GREAT on ESPN at least.
BUT isn’t ironic the one time the Colts won the SB under his watch was as a wildcard which meant not being able to rest the starters.
by Ufanforreal on Dec 29, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
yes your right I did not have it right But the one thing that was right is they had to play the starters all the way through.
by Ufanforreal on Dec 29, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Hey now
Don’t be all coming up in here and saying incorrect facts man. You’re only a real Colts fan if you know everything. I demand an apology from you and if you’ve even considered saying something vaguely resembling criticism you need to flog yourself right now. I’m waiting. DO IT. If you don’t you won’t be as big a Colts fan as me!
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Dec 29, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Using the Bills does not further your case
For a second there I thought you were on my side. Pretty good argument you were making there about sitting starters and not winning the Super Bowl. And I call man-crushes when I see them.
I will admit one thing, you’re right about taking a step back to get some perspective. You may want to do that in terms of the comment section on this blog. Seems to me that the ones making articulate and poignant posts are the ones that have a problem with this. The irate fans seem to be the “HOW DARE YOU QUESTION HIM?! HOW DARE YOU?!!!!” ones.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Dec 29, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
you're really blaming resting starters for not winning a SB?
the Bills (who didn’t win SBs) still won 2-3 games in between their resting starter games, and its the game they didn’t play a month previously that is the reason they didn’t win the SB?
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
Where can I get one of those?
I need to get one of those “English to Inserting Whatever I Want” dictionaries. Since you’ve obviously determined what I was saying (wrongly I might add), I’m assuming you’ve already determined what my response would be?
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
thats what the question marks were for
I wasn’t sure if I was interpreting what you said correctly. You really need to relax.
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
Your tone led me to believe you were being faceitious
I apologize. Although I’m pretty sure you were, I’ll elaborate. My point is that the reasoning behind the entire resting of the starters has been that it leads to post season success. However, I may not be a statistician, but if someone told me that X + Y = Z ( X being resting players, Y being never wavering from this creed and Z being a Championship) and I applied this formula to Polian’s tenure as a GM then it should be valid on more than one occasion. However, when field tested, it’s found that X + Y = Q (Where Q is a loss in the playoffs) I’d probably say that maybe X + Y doesn’t necessarily equal Z. Maybe resting players has little or no impact on playoff success at all. Now on the flipside I realize that A + B = C (A being starting players, B being allowing your coach to make the decisions/momentum and C being a Championship) may be true in one case (2006), but does not necessarily equate into a Championship. But when comparing the two, (I’m not going to check to see if starters were sat in every 11-5 and above season but those are what I’d use as a rough guesstimate) X + Y has not been Z in 12 different postseasons. Whereas A + B HAS been C one out of 4 times (3 seasons with 10 or less and the 2006 season).
So while I’ve determined absolutely nothing by injecting Algebra into the decision making process in regards to resting starters, I HAVE determined that out of 16 seasons of post season play under Polian’s tenure, not once has resting starters led to a Super Bowl. Therefore, adamantly sticking to the ideology that X + Y = Z is undeniable (or at the very least works at least one time out of 16) is not only wrong, it’s borderline stubborn.
If I kept telling myself that if I close my eyes real tight, while blowing on a kazoo, doing jazz hands, and wiggling my toes Kate Beckinsale would appear before me wearing nothing but saran-wrap, I’d probably stop believing this was an undeniable fact at around 10 or so. If people knew I was on my 17th go at it, they’d probably put me in an institute. Well, they’d probably do that way earlier than that, but if this had happened even ONCE, then I’d have a case and would be the envy of all mankind.
Which reminds me…here goes try 18…wish me luck.
That's a BINGO!
ok I see what you're getting at
although I personally think the whole point is moot as nothing really shows a strong reason for or against protecting starters going into the playoffs. The equation doesn’t exist. But if one were to believe in a systematic equation for playoff success and it not being circumstantial, its easy to see where one would believe Bill Polian is an empty set.
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
I am known
at times to respond minus the…artful expressions as long as I’m approached with a legitimate reply. Even when it’s quite contrary to my own opinion. Since some bloggers don’t engage in banter or debate, I’ll be happy to push some buttons to see where the ride ends. Sometimes I get too caught up in the ecstasy of imagining people staring at their screens with a really pissed off look, fingers ablaze, POUNDING those keys on the keyboard because “Oooo boy! I really MEAN this one!”, and the boss walking by and going “I’ll never get what’s so serious about the interwebz…” that I’ve been known to bear hug innocent bystanders whilst cackling madly. Casualties of war. I’m not proud of it, but it happens.
Don’t let it get out though. I have an image to uphold.
That's a BINGO!
Why thank you
I do have a question for you, what’s the application to join the Blog Police? Is there a physical required or is simply being a douche all that’s necessary?
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
The way fans
The way fans treated Polian on the show was disrespectful. He made his points, has been making his points for 3 weeks now, and fans are calling him up on the radio, reading pre-written scripts, referring to situations that have no correlation to what happened, and not listening to what he is and has been saying. In most NFL cities, the GM does not do a talk show at all. We as fans in Indy are spoiled by success, and think our immediate satisfaction is all that matters. There is a bigger picture here. That is what Polian is in charge of. We have been feasting off of his decisions for the last 10 years, he makes what SOME of us view as a bad decision, and we are going to run him out of town because of it. For 3 weeks he has been saying that an undefeated season was not one of their goals. Was anybody listening?
by Blueisgood on Dec 29, 2009 11:18 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Think about it
In most NFL cities, the GM does not do a talk show at all.
In most cities, the GM also doesn’t enter the picture around Week 14 every season to start using “heavy influence” to manipulate which players will continue to start and finish each game as the playoffs approach. We rarely hear of how Polian might hope regular season games are played from weeks 1-12 or so, but as soon as something important starts to approach (the playoffs or the possibility of a perfect season in this case) Polian comes out of the clouds to start moving the chess pieces around, taking most of the control away from the coaches that have done such a great job doing their job up to that point.
By the way, nothing against you, but I am aware of the 16-0 season not being one of his goals. However, he has said over and over that the 22 or 23 game win streak was one of the goals, which means that they intended on trying to go at least 13-0….but of course not 16-0.
13-0 = good
16-0 = very very bad
I am yet to hear a good explanation from BP about this strange logic.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
Huh
it’s almost like dashing off a post in an incoherent blind rage without actually thinking is a bad thing.
Go figure.
by jdb on Dec 29, 2009 11:24 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
what we need is 2-14 season
we are spoiled bad, now a 14-2 or 15-1 season ticket purchase is a crappy product?
we need to take a good look at we are saying on these forums and take a good look at what we take for granted.
Someday we all will look back at this decade and hope we still have that Colts team. 12+ wins for a record setting seven seasons and you want your money back for one game?
We dont deserve this team then. im sick, even more than sunday…
by thebossuzzi on Dec 29, 2009 11:24 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yep
Just as spoiled as a woman in a marriage for 10 years that (I’ll try to avoid being too graphic) is allllmoooosssst there every night and her husband turns over and says “Ah, thanks honey. Got what I needed.” And she thinks to herself, “Well…at least there was that ONE time…”.
Damn women expect the WORLD. Yeesh.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Dec 29, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Well..
I was going to break it down into one syllable words and a drawing of stick figures, but I thought I might lose some people who don’t actually seem to understand what they’re arguing against.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Dec 29, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
noo
what’s classy is bringing your poor wife into this, who is obviously so unsatisfied that she only got what she needed 1 time in 10 years.
Touche
But that doesn’t change that you have absolutely no clue what you’re arguing against. Either that or you’re just terrible at arguing. I’m not going to pin it on your ability to debate. You’ve obviously brought up some valid points if that’s what I was arguing. So I’m going to have to go with basic comprehension on this one.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Dec 29, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
i cant agree more with jason hammer, Some Colts Fans are Spoiled Brats
I understand if you want to debate if resting the starters or playing them is better for the team. That is a fair argument, but don’t feel like the Colts OWE you anything! They owe you nothing! They have earned the right to do whatever they want. Would these same people who want their money back PAY EXTRA for great games like the New England game? It’s the same logic. Stop being so spoiled.
http://blogs.wzpl.com/jhammer/2009/12/28/some-colts-fans-are-spoiled-brats/
by thebossuzzi on Dec 29, 2009 11:34 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
You're right
They owe us nothing, but apparently there’s an assumption that we owe them something? We owe Polian our undying loyalty and praise because…why exactly? His decisions are immune to criticism because he’s earned it?
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Dec 29, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Because Polian is the rest why this team had a chance to go for an undefeated season in the first place.
Because Polian has an excellent resume and knows what he’s doing.
Because up until Sunday he’s never done anything that made you second guess him and cause an entire fanbase to flip their shit even though what happened Sunday happens every goddamn year.
What’s so bad about understanding and respecting the man’s decision? It’s his team, we’re just fans of it.
"Yea, verily, we shall overcome thy pathetic attempts at defense, thou jelly-livered knave! Talk not of thy smack to me, for I shall wedge mine booted foot nine furlongs up thy ass, bitch! Canst thou dig it??"
by KingRichard on Dec 29, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Polian is the REASON why this team had a chance...
"Yea, verily, we shall overcome thy pathetic attempts at defense, thou jelly-livered knave! Talk not of thy smack to me, for I shall wedge mine booted foot nine furlongs up thy ass, bitch! Canst thou dig it??"
by KingRichard on Dec 29, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Ah
Obviously the argument about resting the starters every season is a figment of my imagination. Obviously someone in charge of player acquisitions and contract management has enough football knowledge to be the HC so we’re just wasting money with all those silly guys on the sidelines. Obviously interjecting something that contradicts the modus operandi of an undefeated team is a good idea. What was I thinking?
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Dec 29, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
I needed to read further.
You answered my question above. There is just to much to read on this site. I’m wasting too much of two days now =p
If you have always believed that resting starters is bad, then I guess you found the ultimate source for indignation this past Sunday. I personally am fine with resting starters, but this one hurt because we were undefeated. It was different to me. Anyone who has always loathed the rest is feeling extremely passionate and righteous now.
I land with King Richard and many others.here in that Polian is the reason we are so successful, and I will choose to respect his decision. But I really wanted to both have and eat my cake, whatever that cliche ever meant.
by coltsfanawalt on Dec 29, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Correct
I don’t think everyone is mad that they rested starters in general. We have come to expect that even though many of us don’t agree with this philosophy anyway. There hasn’t ever been anything on the line so we never cared enough to question it.
The reason why everyone is so much more upset is because A) something WAS on the line this year and B) how they pulled the starters and at what point in the game they pulled them was total BS.
I wasn’t even that mad that the score was 15-10 when Peyton & Co were sent to the bench. But I was mad that they threw Painter into the fire on the 9 or 10 yard line against the #1 defense in football and he never had a chance to succeed. This goes against everything you ever hear about good coaching. Put players in a position where they can succeed.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
Polian owes the fans more than we ever owe him
and anyone who says otherwise is…………..ugh I won’t even finish
Monstersbox
Are you going to be running a fan poll to see who we should start next week? I’m sure Polian and Caldwell will be anxiously awaiting the results. While you’re at it, maybe you should get the fans opinions on what play we should run on 3rd and 7 in the first quarter? Afterall, thats the proper way to run a football team.
Don Booza
Is your face going to stay ugly? HAHAHA! I MADE JOKE! HAHA! I SO GOT YOU BACK!
“When in doubt, win an argument by saying something stupid.” – Don Booza’s inner monologue Dec 29, 2009.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Dec 29, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Think of it this way...
The Colts are a Franchise…a business. Now lets take McDonalds for example. A business. Breakfest lasts till 10:30am? Why do they do this? Because it would be bad for their business (according to them). Now for the Colts, according to them, playing starters the rest of the regular season is bad for their business. Now I know everyone here, including me, has gone up to McDonalds at 10:30 and BAM cant order breakfest. All you wanted was a McGriddle, you could taste it in your mouth. You get angry and leave, but I can say this…WE ALL GO BACK AGAIN another day! Now the Colts 14-0 pull starters. We all got a little angry and dissapointed. McDonalds is the #1 fast food franchise in the world. I don’t see a bad decision at all by McDonalds because their business strategy works. The colts are by far the best run franchise in the league. Pls dont argue this point….12wins in how many seasons in a row? What Im trying to say is, business owners make decisions based on what is best for their business. The way i see it…mabee not a fan favorite choice, but I bet my last dollar on a proven track record.
I like this
Well thought out, good analogy, non-insulting. This is a good argument.
For the rest, it’s digressed to the point that I’m not arguing your point, I’m arguing that for some reason you think that you’re bigger fans than anyone who dares criticize anything BP does. You’re not, and it’s annoying. To glean some sense of satisfaction from your drivel, it’s amusing to point this out.
Anyway, good post Eightbal.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Dec 29, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Whatever Monster
I actually don’t agree with the decision to pull starters. However, I’m also not running to the BMV to give back my Colts license plate. In other words, I can still be fan of the team and not throw a hissy fit every time a decision is made that I don’t like. That is all I’m saying. Now please continue making non-funny jokes all you want. It lightens the mood around here.
Hey
If you wanted me to say you wrote up a good post, maybe you should’ve read what you wrote before you posted it. Don’t be jealous. I’m a equal opportunity insulter, but I also recognize when somebody decides to write an articulate response. I give credit where credit’s due. In your case you brought the level of conversation down with your “wit”.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Dec 29, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Monster's Fan Poll
How’s the poll coming Monster? Have the fans decided what play the Colts should run on 3rd and 7 yet? Now please continue your hissy fit…
Your face is still ugly.
ZING!
Rehashing old lame jokes is one of my favorite hobbies too!
That's a BINGO!
In the regular season that tracfk record is all fine and dandy
And what has that gotten us in the Playoffs besides underachieving and one-and-dones? or do you agree we should only have 1 ring right now?
what's funny is that
most of our one and dones where caused by injuries , not having a Gary Brakett to contain Antonio Gates or not having Freeney or having mathis playing with pratically one leg cuz of injury.
by thebossuzzi on Dec 29, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
"Agree" is a bad way to put it...
“Accept” is a better way to put it. I accept that one ring is all we have. I would rather have a great season and go one and done than having a mediocore (prolly spelled wrong i know) season and then go one and done.
It's funny,
fans were defending the team and their one-and-dones just a few weeks ago stating important poitns such as the Brackett inujry last year or Marvin, Freeney, and Mathis in 07 or the Dungy distraction and Nick Harper’s wife in 05 but now all of sudden people are complaining about the one-and-dones instead of looking forward and seeing that for the most part this team and it’s most important pieces are healthy and ready to go in the playoffs
When did running the table become more important than winning in Feburary
Running the table
and then finishing the job with a Super Bowl (19-0) would have been the PERFECT way to make everyone forget about all of those prior shortcomings. Don’t you agree?
We wouldn’t anymore be the team that couldn’t win the big one for so long…the team that could never beat the Pats in the playoffs for so long….the team that always went one and done in the playoffs except for that one “lucky” season….we would be the team that went 19-0!!! That would have been awesome. But now all we can do is think what if just like we do when we talk about 05, 07 and maybe 08.
I will still be very happy if we are fortunate enough to win the SB this year, but I will still always be irritated that we had a chance to go 19-0 and didn’t have the balls to go for it.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
I'm not saying running the table wouldn't have been cool
but my point is people are quick to change sides, people defending prior seasons shortcomings with injury/distractions are now attacking the one and done seasons without putting the whole situation forward.
I stated a similar comment on PatsPulpit
entertainment for the fans is a source of money for a business. No one started the NFL saying, "man we’re going to entertain the hell out of these people and if we make money great but I really want people to be entertained." No someone saw a potential source of income and pursued that.
By protecting players and winning a Super Bowl potential for income explodes within the next year. By going for a 19-0 season you make how much more than 18-1 and winning a SB? That is most likely a difference not worth calculating. If you go for 19-0 and lose say, Peyton Manning in the 15th game and thus drop the 16th and 17th, how much does your income increase the next year?
Essentially it comes down to the risk of 19-0 is not worth the reward. If it happens, great! If it takes losing a game to guarantee a competitive team in game 17, 18, and 19 then by all means lose the game.
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
But it's worth the risk
for individual records? Pretty sure going 19-0 would bring in more cash revenue than a receptions record (e.g. Marvin Harrison week 17 2008) or a total yards record (e.g. Peyton Manning week 16 2009). Obviously I do not have the same priorities in terms of what is impressive. Would it not be in the best interest, and directly related, to the health of the players to pull them at any regardless of week if it’s a blowout and clearly out of reach? What would the explanation be for the Arizona and St. Louis games be?
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
My disagreement
Is with everyone’s assumption that Manning would go down with an injury in week 16 or 17 when he has never gone down with an injury at any point in his career to this point except for one snap.
I have an issue with everyone approving of the “playing scared” argument. Playing scared is playing not to lose. Playing not to lose is not even close to playing to win.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
Addai getting hurt prolly urged Caldwell to make the decision
do you want to risk losing Peyton with out Johnson , Diem and Addai? Addai is our best blitz blocker and he was injured on that game, do you want to risk a so far kind of fragile Donald Brown if addai is already hurt? take a step back and look at the big picture.
The Jets were going to hit us with everything on the forth quarter cuz the game was close. Even with Peyton in there was no guarantee win, you weight that vs risk of losing more key players .
The big picture…..hmm….rest or play the starters.
With that logic why play the starters at all,why did they play them in the Jags game, it to was a meaningless game in regard to the standings of the playoff.
by Ufanforreal on Dec 29, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly
Obviously Bill Polian makes the decision on which records he wants to get and which games he’d like to play. Health concerns are not factored in with these decisions. Now if these guys get these all important records, than the meaningless team record has health factored in.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Dec 29, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
what im saying is
that if addai is there to pick up blitzes and our starting OL is there to provide Pyeton with elite protection is was ok to keep Peyton in, but Peyton got pulled after Addai and Diem got hurt and our OL was al ready missing CJ. And the worst attack by the Jets was yet to come. DO you keep Brown to pick up blitzes and risk hurting him ? this is not all about Peyton , Peyton does what he does with his protection in place, if this is a playoff game youll risk it but it was not.
by thebossuzzi on Dec 29, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
but then you throw a…..not ready for the NFL QB in to the pack and almost get a up and coming stars (Collie) head took off.
by Ufanforreal on Dec 29, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
that my friend is another topic
Cuz i am on record across the site criticizing the no action to sign Garcia, and saying that i was afraid for Painter days ahaed of the game and that we needed to have a veteran to get the heat and to backup Peyton if he gets injured.
But still big picture, Peyton was missing 3 of his starting offensive protection , why risk him? Bad decision not having a veteran QB? YES but risking Peyton on a non-playoff game cuz of it? NO
Question
People have said that Addai was injured in that game but I haven’t heard anything about an injury. What injury did he sustain?
If Addai was really injured, then I can see that being a possible turning point in the decision to start pulling starters. But as I watched the game, I thought Brown was in because they needed to get him back up to speed and not because Addai was injured.
I am one of the critics, but IMO the Addai injury was just made up so that the Colts would have an excuse to pull the rest of the starters and be okay with losing the game.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
Polian is an arrogant prick
I agree that the way he reacted to fan criticism was very rude and disrespectful, just as the decision was to throw the game (I’m sorry, but I do not believe anyone thought Painter could win that game, including the staff). But is anyone really shocked at this? I’m over it, and it still sucks, but we’ve always known he’s a prick. I’m glad we have a guy in charge that does what he thinks and doesn’t let anyone question his decisions, even though they may be shitty ones. If we win the Super Bowl (don’t see any reason why we still can’t, despite all you cliff jumpers sobbing about it), then I could give two shits about the Jets game. We’ll have a healthy roster in the playoffs now (I’m looking at it half full, you can look at it half empty and talk about momentum dead or whatever, but I’m sticking with my outlook), and if anyone thinks guys like Manning, Freeney, Clark, Wayne, and all our other guys are going to suddenly turn soft, I would really like to hear your reasoning as to why?
I agree that the guy is a prick in the PR department (I’m used to it, I’m a UofL fan and we have Tom Jurich, if any of you know about him, and if you don’t, he at times can make Polian look cuddly when it comes to fan relations), but this beating a dead horse nonsense is getting immature and overdone. Let’s just move on. If you’re going to continue to make posts every day bashing Polian and beating a dead horse, please do what Polian did not do, and that is inform the fans of your intentions. Because if that’s the case, I’d prefer not to waste my time unless you’re talking playoffs, potential outcomes of games, etc.
"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning
I agree
And for the record I am not a cliff jumper. I am just upset that they decided going 13-0 was a goal worth setting but not finishing it off and going 16-0.
I don’t believe that “momentum” has been changed and I am still 100% confident that we can still get to and win the Super Bowl
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
Next Week
Wouldn’t next week be a better time to rest your players, then screwing your paying customers. It will probably be -70 degrees with 4 ft of snow on the ground. Why would you rest your players at a home game, with the game on the line, in front of your home crowd, and give the game away. That was like going to a rock concert and the lead singer leaving the stage half way through the performance. You can say what you want. The NFL is for entertainment purposes. If I pay big bux to see big name players, thats what I expect to see. I am not a die hard fan of the colts, but I was very excited to see Manning and company compete…what a let down. I will say this to the so called fans…If you quit on your team because of this, you don’t deserve your team. There are plenty of cities out there that would love to have a 14-1 team right now, or even a 7-8 team and maybe even a team like the Detroit Lions. Good Luck Colts. Would love to see Colts vs. Steelers rematch. Steelers need some luck though!!!
Don't take it the wrong way
It’s not threats to stop being Colts fans or anything. In fact, most of the people that are saying it’s a bad decision and how Polian is talking down to the fans is unjustified are the biggest Colts fans. Well, at least they’re the ones I recognize prior to my hiatus and have me trumped by at least a couple decades in some cases in Colts fandom.
You’re exactly right about pulling the plug at home. The Jacksonville game was just as “meaningless” so why not just quit there? Now with what happened this week, we expect them to pull the starters even earlier in Buffalo. Almost seems like false advertisement to fight, claw, and play your hearts out to have people think “They’re going to go for it! Pack the bags dudes, we’re going tailgating!”. In a way it almost seems they wanted to make sure all the seats were filled and the concession stands were rocking out with the beer and brats.
I like the concert analogy. Bono comes out, does three songs and says “Alright guys, I’m out. I have to sing at the Grammy Awards in a week and I have to save my voice. Anywhoo, here’s the Jonas Brothers to take over! You’re going to love it!”
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
Where would this thread be
without monstersbox being the thread police?
Good grief man. Take a step back and breath.
Polian didn’t run over your dog.
It'd be way less interesting
With way more of the “BBS IS OUT OF CONTROL! I’M GUNNA THREATEN TO STOP READING THE BLOG! AHHH!”
I’m actually enjoying this. Oh wait, are we speaking in haiku? Even better!
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
Dude,
You need to get on Utube or something. You’re making me spit coffee all over my monitor.
Screwing with the righteous
has provided me with years of entertainment. Especially since the light never seems to go off and think to themselves, “Waaiiiit a second…he’s screwing with me!”. It makes me feel like that Colonel in Inglorious Basterds. The best part is that I’m totally giving myself away, but someone fighting the “good fight!” is going to fall into my dastardly web of manipulation and shennanigans. That’s one thing you can always count on; the “good guys” are always the ones you get the best reactions and awesome insults from. Playing the villain can be so gratifying.
That’s a BINGO! I think that’s going to be my new signature…yes…
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
BBS
you need to be a little more emphatic that Polian did NOT in fact leave the studio early yesterday. If you were listening to the webstream on 1070, the whole show was played. Polian was there to the end. Now, this story that he “stormed out” is everywhere and it all links back to here. I just read about it on USAToday.
I know we are all a little upset about the decision on Sunday, but damn, reel it in a little.
The Colts are going to win the SB this year. I feel it.
Well that would fall under..
“Bad Journalism” on their part. Especially since he said he needed verification.
“I’m trying to confirm if it was Lamey, and only Lamey, that did the show wrap-up.”
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
coltus listened i believe and is confirming it, either way this one was a good post by BBS
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Dec 29, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Polian.....
For years people have been getting on Belichick for being at best standoffish with the press, while Polian has been downright bombastic. He always gets a pass, and is hardly ever brought up in conversations about crass NFL types.
Why is that?
How can fans of 1 team, crucify one person on another team, and Pontificate one on their team? Rose colored glasses? Yellow journalism??
Someone please explian it to me.
just another example how polian is a dumbass and doesnt know how to handle the fans
shouldnt he be the one to give those news, instead of sending someone else?
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by 805 on Dec 29, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions
What is sad
is that piece of trash Florio is now making such a huge deal out of something that never happened. What a flaming moron.
BBS the fair thing to do is post the update on the original post that Florio linked
If we want to be fair ,im saying…
stop this
Guys, people that keep amplifying this scandal, please stop.
Colts is a business that belongs to Jim Irsay. You have no share in the company.
It is your problem if you attach emotionally to this team.
It is your problem if you want to pay for tickets or not.
If you don’t pay somebody else will as long as the team is competitive or for whatever reason.
Real fans do not amplify a scandal around a team just before the playoffs when the players and management do not need to deal with PR related distractions.
Leave the Colts alone, leave Polian alone. Have you really lost all the respect for what this man has done? Then you do not deserve to enjoy anything that this team has accomplished. If it wasn’t for this man there would have been no 14-0 team so that you can even entertain the possibility of cheering for a 19-0 team.
What is this team for you? Is it an addictive drug that makes you to want more when already high? Look at your life, find other things to be happy about such as your children, your own accomplishments in your career. How many of you are perfect?
by codrutc on Dec 29, 2009 6:24 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Just curious
Can anybody tell me when running a football team became a democracy. I remember a time when I had to root for the old oilers or the raiders because we did not even have a local team. Then I sat through years of teams who had about as much success as a one legged man in a butt kicking contest. Over the last 10 years I have been very privileged to watch one of if not the best playing and ran teams ever. If Mr. Irsay, BP, and Coach want to pull the starters when they see fit then so be it. I was also upset about it but that is their call to make. Hopefully all the fans who are giving them a hard time do not chase the whole team off to LA. I for one will be watching Sunday and rooting and hoping that we beat the Bills.
Am I naive?
So I could be wrong but maybe, just maybe what we have heard from Polian and Caldwell for the last 2 weeks could have been the truth. They seemed to be pretty clear that the starters will rest and the 16-0 record was not a goal. Am I nuts or naïve to think that the plan was to use the last 3 games like a pre-season? And the score really did not matter? I am confused by why people seemed to be surprised that the starters were pulled early. I personally found the timing a little odd but I also did not expect starters to play much in sub-zero weather of Buffalo. I have not heard anyone in the Colts organization say we do not play starters because we do not want them hurt. They say they want them fresh and want to give them time to heal the dings and bruises that accumulate this late in the year. So where is the surprise? Did other people feel the starters would play the entire Buffalo game even if we were 15-0? I personally did not. Again I maybe naïve but it seems we have placed priorities and words into Colts managements mouth and now are mad at them. Having different expectations is the most common reason for conflict. So do you think we (as fans) have made our own unrealistic expectations?
New to the board but would love you thoughts.
What I don't understand is....
Polian has said numerous times (BP radio show, NFL Network interview, etc) that achieving the 22 straight wins mark (eclipsing the record of 21 straight by New England) was one of the team goals.
In order to do this, the Colts would have to go 13-0 to begin the season. Thus, he and Caldwell had a goal in mind to go 13-0 to start the season.
If they have a goal to go 13-0, why would they then not continue to try to win the final 3 games and go 16-0? I am confused as to why they would set such a lofty goal but not set another one just a little higher which includes a historical milestone. In effect, they are saying, “it’s okay to be really good, but we don’t want to be great.”
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
NFL Around the League
Did anyone watch Bill Polian on Around the League today? After watching him give his explanation I have to say Coach Caldwell’s decision to bench Peyton was the right choice, albeit maybe the hardest he has had to make as a head coach. Had it been Peyton that got sacked instead of Curtis Painter, it could have resulted in a serious injury. We would all be singing a different tune about Polian and Caldwell right now. That fact of the matter is its better to watch Painter get raped now rather than in the playoffs while he’s subbing for Peyton because he got injured in a totally meaningless game.
by colt45and2zigzags on Dec 29, 2009 8:43 PM EST reply actions
Only concerned with Super Bowl
Although I would have liked to see the Colts set an NFL record by going 16-0 and winning the Super Bowl, the later is what is most important to me. My problem with resting the starters is the fact that we rested starters for four out of five years and came out flat in the playoffs. The only Super Bowl win we had was the year we couldn’t rest because we didn’t have the seedings decided until the last week of the season. I just want someone to ask Bill Polian why he wants to ignore the historical record and why this year will be different than the previous years when we rested starters.
I finally understand
After reading the article linked below, I now understand The Decision. Polian has declared for weeks that 16-0 means nothing. He has been saying since Halloween that an undefeated season is not a historic achievement. The longest regular season winning streak and the most wins in the decade are the only things, other than a Super Bowl, that matter. How can this not register with us stupid fans? Polian even admits that he should have done a better job educating us about what is and is not important. Forget that the people who pay his salary, along with the media and almost everyone else involved in the league, disagree with him. I can sleep much easier now that Bill has clarified what I should think is important.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5BT0B320091230?type=sportsNews
by Cards N' Bucks on Dec 30, 2009 3:00 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I LOVE THE COLTS!!!
First off let me say I am not a season ticket holder. I WISH I WAS but I cannot afford it with the current economy, my family, etc. That being said, I love the Colts as much as the next fan if not more. I watch them, I read about them and occasionally chime in on the blog. My wife and I were considering buying tickets for the last game @ $175 a pop but decided we just couldnt afford it. If I had spent that money on the game and went and saw what I saw on Sunday, I would have been as upset as everyone there, and as upset as I was while watching the game at home while listening to Bob Lamey call it, as that IS the best way to do it. Now, everyone WAS booing at the game but they werent booing their team, Peyton, Reggie or anyone else…they were booing the DECISION!!!!! We HATE the decision. We, like the players, wanted them to PLAY!!!!! Just like Herman said, YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!!!! i dont think anyone of us wants our team to win any less, play any harder or sit on the bench. We wanted to see our team, which had a great chance to, run the table and make history. We wanted what we want every year….for the Colts to go all the way to the Superbowl and win it all. As to Polian…..we may be upset with him, his decision if it actually was just his, or his attitude toward us fans on him MAKING that decision, but I think I speak for almost everyone when I say, he is the President of OUR team and we wouldnt want anyone else. We support him and most of his decisions and wouldnt want to see him go anywhere. Same with Caldwell. We love you all, we love the team but yor decision sucked!!!!!!!!!!!
by !!WeLive!!ColtsFootball!! on Dec 30, 2009 10:24 AM EST reply actions
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