Indy Star's Phil Richards claims we made a false report; of course, he's wrong
For the second time this year, the Indianapolis Star has written an article that does not paint us favorably here at Stampede Blue. However, instead of the venom coming from Bob Kravitz, it is getting spit at us by the normally reliable Phil Richards. Maybe the Star's staff are just mad at us because we have routinely voiced in the open what so many residents of Indiana have been saying privately for years: That the Star sucks as a newspaper, and that the management there is about as tuned in to their readers as Bill Polian is with Colts fans.
Whatever the reason, Phil woke up today and decided to write some things that are, quite frankly, wrong. Here's a section of Phil's article (emphasis mine):
Stampedeblue.com, a blog not associated with the club, charged that Polian became so incensed he stormed off and left host Bob Lamey alone for the show's final 10 minutes."He did not storm off," said Kent Sterling, program director for WFNI-1070 AM, which carries the show simultaneously with its airing on WLHK-97.1 FM.
The program normally goes to its first commercial break 13 minutes into the hour, Sterling explained, but given the compelling nature of the discussion, that first break came at 23 minutes. Commercials continued to be pushed back.
"We had six minutes of (commercials) left to play in seven minutes," Sterling said.
"So Bob just wrapped it up in the last minute."
That doesn't mean that Polian wasn't annoyed, or that callers were assuaged.
First off, we never "charged" that Polian ran off the set of his show. That's just sensationalism on Phil's part; the kind of stuff you'd expect to read from blogs. Or, so I'm told.
The blog article that Phil is likely referring to is this one, which is titled (emphasis mine), "Bill Polian called out by Colts fans on his call-in radio show, gets defensive, seemingly ends show early." I can't be 100% sure if this is the article, since Phil did not link to it in his story, but I'm pretty sure that's the one.
Phil went to journalism school, I assume. So, he likely knows that when words like "seemingly" are used to describe events, it means that it is how things appear at the time or how the seem. And for thousands of Colts fans who tuned into the Bill Polian Show, which is primarily carried on 97.1 HANK FM and HANKFM.com, on Monday Dec. 28th at around the 6:50pm mark in the show, while Polian was involved in a rather heated discussion with a male caller, the station switched in mid-discussion to music and commercial filler. Whether that was a technical issue, or a programming decision based on pre-determined commercial time, I don't know. What I do know is almost everyone who was listening at that time thought the same thing: They've cut the show off because something happened on set.
I wrote about my own experience listening to the show using the following lovely prose (again, emphasis mine):
All of this resistance to Polian, the Colts, and their excuses for not trying to win the ballgame seemed too much for the Colts president. Midway through the final caller, with about ten minutes to go in the show, the show was cut-off. The station immediately threw in music and commercial filler, and thus, the Bill Polian Show was abruptly ended. Perhaps there was a technical failure. Perhaps a major FM radio station in a somewhat large metro area lost their feed. Perhaps one day flaming monkeys will shoot magically from my butt....
To put what happened in a proper context, just like pulling the starters Sunday, Bill Polian seemed to pull himself out of the show early to avoid further injury.
You'll notice how in the original article we concede that the reason the show seemed to get cut short might have been technical problems. You'll also notice that rather than flat out stating "YES! Bill Polian ran out on his callers the way the Colts ran out on their fans Sunday!" we added that it seemed as though he did.
We also updated the original article with new information we received from people like Eric Hartz at ColtPower.com. In addition, we published an entirely separate update article, with links back and forth to the original one, with even more updated news. This was done long before Kent Sterling's rather passive-aggressive press release that all but called us liars, which we even made a special FanPost for much to the annoyance of our readers, who thought we were "over-killing" the story.
By the way Kent, "spurrious" is spelled with one "r." I linked to a dictionary in the event you accuse me of "spuriously" claiming you don't know how to proof read or spell.
In short, we did our job. We covered our bases. We did not charge that Bill Polian did something he seemed not to do. Phil Richards is incorrect in assuming we stated such, and that is disappointing. He misrepresented what I wrote, failed to quote the article where he claims I made the seemingly false "charge," and also failed to contact me to receive my side of the story before he published his article. He took the time to quote Kent Sterling and a random Colts fan who owns a sports grill in Fishers (uh, what?), but he did not take the time to email or contact me to hear my side. That, my friends, is bad journalism defined.
We expect better from Phil. Sadly, we didn't get it.
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Cover. Up. I’m not the conspiracy theory type, but I did work in radio for 6 years. While it is true that stations will push back, or shrink commercial breaks only to extend a break later in a show/hour, music would not be part of that ‘filler’ and a show will always come back, even for 30 seconds to ‘wrap’. The fact that the show seemingly ‘ended’, out of no where, says to me that it is either
A. A poorly run show with no production value
B. Someone is fibbing a bit, hoping the general public’s lack of radio-production knowledge will help this all go away.
Of course, the station uses it’s friend and buddy – the newspaper – to get its version out, and of course, does not get BSB’s side as the person who wrote the original article.
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Just to give you some background John
It seems that for some radio listeners, the show did come back after about 6-10 minutes of commercials. Regular host Bob Lamey wrapped up the show quickly, and then it ended.
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Gracias...
That sounds better, at least.
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There is no cover-up
Certain sources for the show continued uninterrupted, and Polian finished the show out as normal. This was all written up in a FULL correction which was attached to the offending post as well. If Phil Richards missed it, it’s probably because he didn’t bother to RTFA. Sloppy.
Think we’ll be seeing a full correction in the Indy Star tomorrow? Don’t hold your breath.
I knew something had been missing
The “bash a member of the media” weekly post is back!
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there is the good old stampedeblue we know and love
rather than turning on our own, we are going back to blasting the media. Good times
by metal_militia on Dec 30, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
he is not blasting and didn't call him names or anything just is pointing out he made a mistake and how it actually is if anything
this is his best one on other media parties as in clean and such. dont see an issue
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Dec 30, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Since the article is about BBS
he deserves his chance to comment on it. And since he wasn’t formally asked for comment on the story, this is the only way left.
and by all means this is the best one he has done in his attempt at correction lol
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Dec 30, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Garcon
is not going to play on sunday.
Via Chris Wesseling, rotoworld.com
I am not too happy about his hand injury. He is a young, and unexperienced reveiver, who needs as much games before the playoff as possible.
Wasselings also said that Bethea and Lilja are part of The All-Snubbed Team. True, but 5 pro bowler is nice.
Where are we?
I can understand defending one’s self when mentioned in a news article, but this site is quickly becoming BigBlueShoe’s personal home to vent and rant. Let’s start talking about our 14-1 team, like the previous post, eh? It’s funny how truly different not just the reactions have been between BBS and Shake n Bake, but how much more grace and tact SnB has in not losing his mind defending his position or some vague concept of his honor.
By the way, BBS, “charge” is defined as “to accuse.” The insertion of “seemingly” into an accusation does not take away from the fact that it is, in reality, an accusation. Perhaps Phil should have inserted your wording, but you charged that Polian “seemingly” left the show early. Whatever you choose to call it, that’s a charge. An accusation. And it became a national story. Perhaps you’re embarrassed now, but it is what it is.
by superchimp on Dec 30, 2009 2:29 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Are you unfamiliar with blogs?
They are often structured more personally than other news sources, heavily interweaving the emotions and opinions of their writers. If you prefer a more authoritative style, there are a number of fine magazines and newspapers which will serve your needs.
by slash196 on Dec 30, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
obviously you haven't been reading here long
.. this has been BBS’ blog for a few years now. He was the only writer when things started, and it has always included a lot of his opinions. And we the bloggers can debate those in the comments. That is how a blog works. And certainly myself and others have disagreed in the past. But it has always been interesting reading.
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The guy does have a point
As much as I think the journalist is a Dbag, the word charged just means to accuse.
What a lot of nonsense
BBS, Don’t piss on my head and tell me it’s raining. From the post:
Perhaps there was a technical failure. Perhaps a major FM radio station in a somewhat large metro area lost their feed. Perhaps one day flaming monkey will shoot magically from my butt.So technically you did say that it might have been a technical failure, but then you said that was as likely as a flaming monkey shooting from your butt. That’s the same as claiming that your version of events is the only possible correct one.
Also, you did no research at all as to whether or not Polian really did leave the show early. You just ran with your “looks like he bailed” post and let the flames burn on. You contributed to the spread of a story that turned out to be wrong. Deal with it.
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by szquirrel on Dec 30, 2009 3:27 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
+1
This is a bit silly. What you said back then was pretty clear and has been picked up nationally – congrats. It was wrong. Going back and saying you didn’t 100% mean it is ridiculous and complaining about Richards’ article makes you look like a baby.
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tedy bruschi just fucking fired me up again talking shit about the colts, and hes fucking right so fucking rights
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by 805 on Dec 30, 2009 3:39 PM EST reply actions
No he's not.
It clearly didn’t help his team did it? They sure did look tired. Overusing your arm, and Wayne playing with a sore groin and foot is no walk in the park. There are valid cases for both sides.
by agradecimiento a dios on Dec 30, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
You did NOT do your job
“In short, we did our job. We covered our bases.”
Did you get a comment from HANK management? If not, then you did not take the final step. The use of the words “seemed” does not get you off the hook since the overwhelming implication from the headline and the tone of article was that Polian did storm out.
You were making an accusation without going the extra mile to get confirmation. You could have written the post and simply said something to the effect that the show cut off 10 mins. early for reasons that are unexplained. Instead, you made a leap of logic w/o contacting people who could have rebutted it. And your obvious hated of what Polian did only added to the clear sense that you thought he pulled the plug. (“Perhaps one day flaming monkey will shoot magically from my butt,” clearly shows what you thought of an explanation you later added to your post).
Your post on this was picked up by Mike Florio and got wide attention, all with the hook that Polian cut the show short.
You can’t take shots at other media people (yes, you are in the media) when you fail to do your job.
by JTBLA on Dec 30, 2009 3:46 PM EST reply actions 8 recs
+1
For sound logic on the issue. Frankly, I’ve said before that I couldn’t care less what BBS writes about on his blog, it is his blog and if he wants to attack other media sources, journalists, etc. more power to him. But if I think there is something wrong, I think it’s fair to say so as well. In this case, there is no getting around the clear logic of what JTBLA just said. And it is for that logic that I don’t see how Phil is off base, nor how he misunderstood the article as originally written by BBS. shrugs
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Did anyone see Polian being interviewed?? He looked like he was being held hostage by the Taliban.
Good to know the only goals for the club were beating the Patriots in consectuive regular season wins, and most wins in the decade.
Those accomplishments will live in the annuls of NFL immortality. They will last WAAAAAYYY longer that any undefeated season would have.
Maybe Polian pulled him self out of his PAID radio gig early to save himself for the playoffs. Or better yet, he had done 1 more PAID redio gig than some Patriot this decade, and decided it was time to pull the plug….
Phil can be idiotic
oh yeah BigBlueShoe . . . even Peter King wrote in the Tuesday edition of MMQB:
It got so bad for Colts president Bill Polian last night with angry fans on his never-is-heard-a-discouraging-word radio show that the show mysteriously ended 10 minutes early.
I realize Peter King isn’t always loved here but clearly this was not just a Stampede Blue story.
I suspect he got that as it was picked up by other media
who picked it up from here.
The truth is that the rumor was started here, perpetuated itself, and then we found out more info. At that point, horse is outta da barn…
How can you not love a team that does this?
by LovinBlue on Dec 30, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Right
This blog first put out word that Polian left, it was picked up by PFT, which was like broadcasting it with a 50,000-watt megaphone, then Peter King picks that up, all before anyone bothered to hear from the station itself what had happened. This blog is part of the media and is entitled to its opinions but not its facts.
sadly the truth is no one did a good job
each one had there responsability to verify and shoe did say he was trying to verify i believe but could be wrong
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Dec 30, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
it all started here
This is another example of how blogs, like this one, are gaining more power. But, with more power comes more responsibility. If you want to be taken seriously, then there will be the need to be careful about what you put out there. Fiction can become fact very quickly these days.
So this storm
of crap is raining on you for running a story with no factual basis and you expect people to care?
You’re the one that started the untrue rumor that he left the show early. Deal with the consequences.
You can say that you didn’t post anything in the affirmative or negative, but the tone of the article clearly revealed what you believed. And that’s why you were linked by florio and like. And that’s also why most of the non-colts nfl fans now believe that Polian hung up.
So, I guess what I really have to say is…Thanks for giving the Colts organization, and by extension, Colts fans, a bad name. I appreciate it.
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Polian quote Dec 22. 2009: "You do want to win every time you take the field. There is a lot of misinformation floating around about how to approach it and how we should approach it. Every time you go out on the field you want to win, whether it’s a scrimmage, whether it’s a preseason game, whether it’s a regular season game. Whether it has meaning in the standings or not, you always want to win. Everybody plays to win. We’ve done that on numerous occasions in the past, most notably a couple of years ago against Arizona here in a very exciting finish. That part of it is a given, and people should not think that no matter who is playing that we don’t care about winning the game. We do, greatly. In professional football and professional athletics of any kind, if you’re going to play, you better go out there and give it 100 percent. Otherwise, you run a very, very serious risk of injury. So, whoever is going to play has to be ready to go 100 percent physically and emotionally. Now, that said, we have issues that have to be determined and that are yet to be determined as to who can play and who can’t physically. Because of the situation where the game doesn’t count in the standings, you then apply a different medical barometer than you would if the game had playoff implications. Basically, players who have been playing hurt who can use the rest get the rest. I don’t think it will go much beyond that. That’s our only concern. Everybody else has to get ready to play and go 100 percent, and we want to win the game. "

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