Jim Sorgi, who has yet to take a snap all year, heads to injured reserve
by Brad Wells on Dec 9, 2009 12:33 PM EST
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PrintHow a guy who never plays, never takes a single snap in a live game, could land on injured reserve sure beats the hell out of me. Alas, that is what longtime Colts back-up quarterback Jim Sorgi has done.
ESPN's Adam Shefter, via the wonderful web tool that is the bane of all instant information services, broke the news today that Sorgi has landed on IR. Replacing him on the active roster is Michael Toudouze, an offensive linemen who has been on and off the roster since he was drafted by the Colts in 2006.
Colts.com has confirmed the Sorgi to IR news.
With Sorgi gone for 2009, this means the only back-up currently on the active roster is rookie Curtis Painter out of Purdue. Unlike Sorgi, Painter has an arm, and can get the football down the field and into tight windows in coverage. But Painter is indeed a rookie, and if the Colts start to rest Manning prior to the playoffs, we will be seeing a lot of Painter, who is sure to make rookie mistakes throwing the football.
It's worth noting that last week the Colts worked out former Buffalo Bills quarterback J.P. Losman. This was likely done in anticipation of today's news. Since the Colts did not sign Losman after the workout, that should tell you what their general impressions of him were. The Colts also have rookie quarterback Drew Willy out of the University of Buffalo on the practice squad.
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Sorgi got hurt fixing a washing machine?
(If you’ve seen the video you know what I mean)
Guess who my favorite team is...
by Indcolt18 on Dec 9, 2009 12:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions
For this year,
it’s better than Painter.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: In England, the Speaker of the House is not allowed to speak.
Sorry kid, but your wrong about that. The Toudouze signing makes Losman irrelevant and I’m happy about that.
Cassiper, you and I have seen the explosion of young players on this Colts squad, and it goes without saying that though the QB position is one of the hardest jobs in the NFL, I’d rather deal with an unknown commidity with an upside from our stellar rookie class like Painter than damaged goods like Losman.
it doesn't suprize me or even in the least worry me to see him out i kinda was looking forward to seeing what painter will do
over sorgi anyway. painter will im sure make some rookie mistakes but i have more confidence with him than sorgi why?? dont ask i just do seems like he has more up side and talent
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Dec 9, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Can we be expecting to see JP Losman in a Colts jersey?
He worked out for the Colts last Friday.
Source: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/04/jp-losman-works-out-for-colts/
We know he worked out for the Colts
The rest of us took the time to read the lengthy four paragraph article in its entirety. Thanks for the breaking news though…
Anyone who has a problem with Joseph should stop watching Colts football. It's unfair to expect a back to replace Edge, and Addai has been excellent in all areas when he is healthy.
by DontHateAddai on Dec 9, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Easy cool guy
That last paragraph was added after the article was originally submitted. Keep it classy.
My bad
Anyone who has a problem with Joseph should stop watching Colts football. It's unfair to expect a back to replace Edge, and Addai has been excellent in all areas when he is healthy.
by DontHateAddai on Dec 9, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
How does this affect 16-0?
As all posts re: rest & 16-0 must start – knock on wood (because the Colts’ haven’t actually clinched HFA and don’t yet have the luxury of resting). But with that said, what does this news do to the Colts’ chances of remaining undefeated throughout the season?
The obvious answer seems that it hurts the Colts’ chances because, while Sorgi is no Manning, he has subbed ably in the past and likely has a better chance leading his band of merry subs to victory in place of Manning than a rookie QB.
On the other hand, maybe the coaches will feel less comfortable throwing Painter out there for 98% of the snaps in a game (e.g., because Painter’s rookie mistakes might lead to injuries for other players) and, as a result, decide to keep Peyton in for more of each remaining game. This, of course, has a flip side as the more Peyton plays in meaningless games, the more chance there is for him to unnecessarily injure himself. But overall, more Peyton does equal more chance at winning.
I’m personally of the opinion that the Colts will not rest the starters as much as the MSM would have us believe if 16-0 is still on the line (see the Chargers game in 2005), but the Sorgi injury raises the issue nonetheless.
Thoughts?
Agree on resting players
The players that will be resting are guys like Mathis if his quad injury continues, Hayden if he tweaks the knee or hamstring again, and other guys with lingering injuries. It doesn’t mean that all of the starters will play one series and sit the rest of the game. Unlike the preseason, where there are 20 or so more players on the roster at any time, there simply isn’t enough bodies to fill the on field positions while all the starters are sitting out.
My belief is that the starters will continue to prepare and play into the 2nd half of games just like they do now, and there will be tons of subbing in and out throughout the last 2 games to get younger guys more experience before the playoffs.
As for Manning, I hope he continues to play the entire next 2 games, and plays at least the 1st half of the 15th game and the 1st quarter of the final game. This would be a good time for the team to continue working on the ever-improving running game so Manning doesn’t tire the arm out.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
You know...
I was just thinking about this. The Colts really CAN’T rest players. I’m pretty sure last season we ended up first in either most injured team, or most injured team to reach the playoffs and this season is more of the same. I mean, who are they going to sit to bring in that doesn’t have field time?
Our options are :
Offense – If Gonzalez is back and 100%, he’ll get his starting spot back. So that means his backup would be…drumroll…Garcon. Or if Garcon manages to actually become the fulltime starter (which I doubt), his backup would be Gonzalez (if healthy). Or Baskett may see the field, and my best friend’s an Eagles fan so I’m a closet one too, and I’m going to be completely honest, he’s really good, or maybe I should say an extremely above average backup that would have the second receiver spot on probably over half the league. I seriously doubt Collie comes out at all due to him being a rookie and trying to get him more reps. Same kind of holds true with Garcon really. The most stripped down version of our offense when everyone gets to the point of being rested would probably look something like WR1 Gonzalez, WR2 Garcon, WR3 Collie or Tamme, (he played the slot a ton in college), RB1 Brown, RB2 Simpson, TE1 Santi, TE2 Dijon. And everyone on our offensive line has either seen significant playing time either this season or last season when they revolving injury door was happening there.
I’m actually a little tired so I’m going to sum it up on defense. Keiaho would end up playing and I’m cool with that, I’m cool with Humber playing, pick anyone at DB and I’m fine with (they’ve all pretty much started at some point this season), we’d miss Mathis and Freeney of course but it’s not like Brock’s some schlub and I was seeing Foster playing some RDE and not doing half bad and Dawson’s back. There was a Moala sighting and I’d like to see more, Wheeler’s probably going to get reps since he needs them. Defense would probably look something like DB1 Powers, DB2 Lacey, Nickelback Jennings, FS Silva, SS Bullitt, MIKE Keiaho, WILL Humber, SAM Wheeler, RDE Brock or Foster, LDE Dawson.
Look, I’m going to be completely honest here…I think that lineup can easily take the Jets and Bills, and has a good chance against the Jags if we even decide to sit everyone that early. I see the earliest Peyton comes out as halftime, most likely the third quarter after a scoring drive or something. If Gonzalez comes back, he’ll be working with him.
Shake should go look up how much playing time our backups have seen as compared to the rest of the league. That’s what he should be doing tonight…
Anyway, I’m agreeing and disagreeing with you in a way. The disagreeing part is that we really don’t have too many inexperienced guys. Well, at least inexperienced to the point of not at least having a good shot at beating Dirty Sanchez and honestly at least a 7 point advantage against the Bills, even in the cold.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
Get ready for the Purdue QB feature piece on ESPN
Its the perfect media storm.
Drew Brees and Curtis Painter try to lead their teams to perfect seasons, hoping to match Bob Greise’s 72 Dolphins.
Cue up Mercury Morris…Speaking of which I am surprised we haven’t seen more him this year, especially since 2 teams are 12-0
it probably helps
that neither team is in the Dolphins’ division
either that, or he’s busy refilling prescriptions for heart medication in the event that the Saints and Colts get to the SB
How can you not love a team that does this?
after the 2007 debacle
I would be surprised if he is interviewed prior to either Championship game if one or both teams are still undefeated by then.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
Notice how we've tried out Losman and now signed Willy
Methinks there are thoughts about QBs who can handle cold-weather games, specificaly those based in Buffalo
How can you not love a team that does this?
by LovinBlue on Dec 9, 2009 1:09 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I don't think so...
I’m not sure if monstersbox was being sarcastic or not, but I thought it was a good observation. Maybe a coincidence, but who knows?
Haha
Dang, I have a modus operandi huh? Ah well, well placed sarcasm is a virtue in my opinion. I was giving serious props, that’s a great observation. Ah, I’ve got it, to avoid confusion in the future I’ll add this :
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
this is potentially good news
I agree with you, B.P. Might this lead the coaches to keep Peyton out there longer? After all, I don’t think management has ever treated the last two games as preseason games, i.e. no real desire to win. Sorgi, in their eyes, obviously game them a chance as the backup. Now with Painter back there, in the regular season, it’s a different story. My guess is the Colts come out in the first half like they did against the Titans, build a lead, and when it’s comfortable for them, pull Manning and play some backups. But he won’t see more than one half of play in each game. Just my guess.
he sounds like a random generated madden player.
but apparently he was good at Uni of Buffalo
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I seriously thought this was an inside joke by the developers when he was on the roster in 2007. It didn’t help that they had one of those goofy, game-generated images instead of a real picture.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
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Hideki Sanchez…. best made up name ever.
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
Sorry to hear about Sorgi...
Sorgi’s shoulder has beeen messed up since pre-season, which gave us all our first look at Curtis Painter in blue and white in August. And he’s good enough, which is why no one is really freaking out about this. I like Sorgi, but Curtis painter feels more like a real QB to me. Maybe it’s a pocket presence thing or a Purdue thing (always had a thing for orton too). I guess we’ll get another good look at Curtis painter… as long as he doesn’t come in and throw a bunch of picks…
Poor Sorgi.
But my question is what do we need Toudouze for?
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
"As I grow older, the list of people who can kiss my ass grows longer"-Ancient Hoosier Proverb.
I admit I'm picky...
but Sorgi took exactly one snap… and handed off to Chad Simpson for a TD. Against the Rams.
Maybe taking a snap so early in the season was too much for Sorj.
Sorgi on IR, laddy freakin da. He’s going to be doing the same crap he’s been doing the past umpteen thousand seasons; sitting on the sideline holding a clipboard helping Peyton.
And yes, if you weren’t aware players on IR can still attend games on the sideline.
Hopefully this is the last season we have to deal with Sorgi wasting a roster spot.
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im pretty sure the only reason why they don't let him go is because he literary knows a good part of the playbook and audibles
"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing".
Johnny Unitas
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by 805 on Dec 9, 2009 9:24 PM EST reply actions
Surprised no one else caught this yet (and I didn't the first few times around)
Sorgi has taken snaps. He played in the Rams blowout. He never attempted a pass this year and St. Louis is the only game he’s appeared in, but he’s taken some snaps.
http://www.nfl.com/players/jimsorgi/gamelogs?id=SOR431260
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
I did, but I didn't want to be nitpicky.
That’s why I said we would miss his crisp handoffs. Because of the comment he made after the Rams game about his handoff to Chad Simpson.
Also, Peyton has said that he never wants Sorgi to go anywhere. That he’s a valuable part of the offense in preparation during the week and on the sidelines and as said above, knows way too much.
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