An Odd Twist: Colts Owner Jim Irsay says Marvin Harrison may indeed stay
by Brad Wells on Feb 24, 2009 8:00 AM EST
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PrintAnd here I thought this was going to be a simple and graceful goodbye. Not so:
The Colts owner insisted late Monday that Tom Condon, Harrison's agent, was "premature" when he said the Colts had agreed to release the veteran receiver. Condon told the Associated Press that the team had agreed to the move after Harrison declined to restructure his contract."Marvin and I are talking (Tuesday) at mid-afternoon and we'll see where we go from there," Irsay said. "I'm not going to start talking like he's not here, because nothing's been determined officially by any stretch."
Asked if it still was possible for Harrison to remain with the Colts, Irsay replied, "Definitely."
Either Jimmy is having a tough time accepting the obvious, or he really plans to make Marvin a better offer in order to keep him. One thing is certain: The Colts very much want Marvin to stay.
The oddity of Irsay talking to Marvin directly is he seems to be circumventing Bill Polian, who has been negotiating with Marvin's agent (Tom Condon) for weeks. Polian and Condon go way back, and Big Bill made this clear:
"There was no hardball with this, just heartache."
It is unlikely that Irsay can make a change in this, but the fact that he is trying speaks volumes. This latest development paints the issue in a new tone. I'm now starting to sense that if Marvin leaves, it is not because the Colts don't want him. It is because Marvin WANTS to leave.
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lol
Lets face it, Marv will leave the team. I would love him to stay or retire…but seems that neither of those will happen.
by BlueMark1821 on Feb 24, 2009 8:42 AM EST up reply actions
Don’t get me wrong, I think he has another good year in the tank but how this is being handled (especially by his prick agent) is making me want to see him just go away now. I’d prefer he retire as opposed to signing with another team. But regardless, it’s time for someone else (aka Gonzo and Richard/Pollack) to step up in place of these vets that are leaving.
This line will remain in my signature until the Colts draft Rashad Jennings in 2009.
Of course, besides, thats gonna happen someday and theres nothing anybody can do about it. Still, it is sad and tough for us colts fans to see a cycle end, specially marv’s who was an exceptional athlete (in every sense, he was a professional, had class, modest, committed, you name it)
The problem is EXACTLY that, the way this is being handled, that agent is trying to get some attention so that the colts raise the offer or something and the problem is, marv hasnt really said anything about it while Polian and Irsay keep saying that they want him to stay. As i said, retirement or one more year are the only acceptable scenarios.
by BlueMark1821 on Feb 24, 2009 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
Marvin WANTS to leave?
No kidding.
GTFO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmGdAPjcgaM&eurl=http://www.only17points.com/&feature=player_embedded
Is it time to light my torch yet? JUST TELL ME WHEN BRO
This line will remain in my signature until the Colts draft Rashad Jennings in 2009.
Just trade the guy so the Colts don’t have to worry about an extra 7-13 million against the cap.
Go Colts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by PatsR18*andDONEwithoutCHEATING on Feb 24, 2009 10:06 AM EST reply actions
you still take the remaining bonus money against the cap in trade
trading him has the same cap effect as cutting him.
I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It
by shake n bake on Feb 24, 2009 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
Or tell Marvin that he will not get released unless he retires
Go Colts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by PatsR18*andDONEwithoutCHEATING on Feb 24, 2009 10:07 AM EST reply actions
that makes no sense
he’d say “GREAT” and collect his 9 million dollar base salary from Indy while they had to cut other people for cap room.
and retiring has the same cap effects as cutting or trading him.
read more, think more, post less.
I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It
by shake n bake on Feb 24, 2009 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
lol
“read more, think more, post less” Priceless
I would take those scenarios or suggestions as trying to minimize a problem as if economics were so easy…
by BlueMark1821 on Feb 24, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
can't take credit for most of it
read more, post less is a pretty common response to low quality posts on a board I like. One that’s pretty tough on dumb post(er)s.
I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It
by shake n bake on Feb 24, 2009 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
yeah man
still pretty funny, and this issue is a very delicate one as i can see it.
by BlueMark1821 on Feb 24, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
Hey.
Isn’t Tom Condon Peyton’s agent?
Hm.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Feb 24, 2009 10:47 AM EST reply actions
Yes, he is
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Maybe Peyton could place a call.....
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Feb 24, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
or a swift kick to the groin
This line will remain in my signature until the Colts draft Rashad Jennings in 2009.
by KingRichard on Feb 24, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
any of those would be fine...specially the kick...
by BlueMark1821 on Feb 24, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Peyton tells Marvin to resructure, or else
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Better one
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Good one.
I was thinking his agent, tho… :)
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Feb 24, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not going to lie, because true friends don’t lie…you suck at photoshop.
This line will remain in my signature until the Colts draft Rashad Jennings in 2009.
by KingRichard on Feb 24, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
bad photoshop=awesome photoshop
I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It
by shake n bake on Feb 24, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh
All this does is prolong the pain, and potentially increase the financial burden (if Irsay somehow goes Al Davis on us and tries to retain Marvin at all costs). I’ll miss him, but dude… in the words of Elvis… please release him… let him go.
Turn your new-found cap money attention back to Saturday and then maybe have a little wiggle room to find a younger WR through FA, like… I don’t know… TJ?
TJ?
Stop dreaming…even tough it would be nice…
by BlueMark1821 on Feb 24, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Awesome pictures, guys
But this Irsay thing gets me to thinking… about motivation. At this point, and especially for a super-elite athlete whose psyche I cannot begin to fathom, it might be more about pride, perceived love, ego-stroking, than money and stats.
Think about it without the money involved (i.e. 88 has been paid a shitload of money over the years by anyone’s standards). He’s the el-supremo A-number-one for a long time. They keep drafting #1 WRs to compliment (or replace) him and he keeps chugging along, then the injury and a down year. Maybe he is doubting himself. Maybe he thinks the Colts doubt him. Maybe he’s just bored. All this traditional GM-talking-to-agent crap… maybe all Marv needs is for the boss to place a personal call, add $1M to the offer, and he’ll feel better about things. After all, the GM calls the agents of ALL the other players, not the A-1 El Supremos…. they get the personal call. In fact, maybe the last extension 4 years ago was a personal call type thing and Polian misplayed this all along.
88 is not a public trouble-maker and does not wear his heart on his sleeve, so who knows if he is pouting and sulking to himself and has been for the past decade? Maybe Irsay is reading this right. I assume it’s a long-shot, but, well, having 88 back would work fine for me. Doesn’t necessarily reduce our draft need for a WR, but might shift it to a 2nd-round player who can grow into the O a little more slowly…..
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
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