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2009 NFL Combine: Players I am interested in

If I focus too much on this Marvin Harrison thing, I will lose my mind. So, to distract myself (and you), I will shift focus back to the NFL Combine. Yesterday, many of the defensive linemen and linebackers ran their drills. Much has been made of several players injuring themselves during drills, but it seems none of the injuries are major. After viewing the drill times, a few players stand out on defense:

  • Stanley Arnoux, ILB: He ran a 4.61 in the 40, and is built to play LBer in a Tampa-2
  • Everette Brown, DE: A bit of a "tweener," but clocked fast in the 40, and has an array of pass rushing moves.
  • Lawrence Sidbury Jr., DE: Fastest defensive linemen at the Combine; played his college ball at Richmond.

I'm also interested to see how LSU's Marlon Favorite (DT) performs.

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About the combine

So far im disappointed about Mark Sanchez….and qbs in general

by Piojocuau on Feb 24, 2009 11:52 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm not disappointed

Only because I didn’t expect much to begin with. I have to say (and as a Cal fan this is hard to admit) that Mark is actually fairly impressive in terms of his maturity and ease of being in the spotlight. However all the analysts seemed to be warning that underclassmen QBs seldomly do well on the field in the NFL.

by LovinBlue on Feb 24, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Same here

I like the Trojans and i like Mark too, but i think he should have stayed for his senior year…as you say, he is very mature and humble, maybe from his origins but i would be surprised if he does well on the field…

by Piojocuau on Feb 24, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He totally made the right choice. Staying for his senior year would have been a very stupid idea. He would be competing with guys like Tebow, Bradford, and McCoy. Unless you are an insane USC homer, you know Sanchez isn’t on the same level as any of those guys.

This line will remain in my signature until the Colts draft Rashad Jennings in 2009.

by KingRichard on Feb 24, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

true

but for his game, one more year wouldve been useful. Sanchez kind of impressed everyone with his rose bowl performance which was simply amazing. I hope he does become a susccesful QB, i like the guy and here everybody pretty much loves him and looks up to him

by Piojocuau on Feb 24, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with that statement, too

Even though underclassmen don’t do well, his stock would be way lower next year.

by LovinBlue on Feb 24, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly what I expected.

He had 1 starting year. And to be honest, I wasn’t impressed with him at all this past season. Should have stayed 1 more year. I have no doubt he declared precisely because this year’s QB draft class is not good. Easier to compete with the guys this year than next : Bradford, Tebow, etc.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Feb 24, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was impressed

with quite a few of the LBs. Good 40 times, and fluid in the drills. There should be some good ones available in the 2nd and 3rd rounds if the Colts decide to go that direction.

by TRDean on Feb 24, 2009 12:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Though the USC LB's did not put up the 40's I expected

They did pretty well in other drills. i think there sub-par 40’s could drop them down to our spot.

40’s are important, but they arent everything. In the end, those SC backers can play ball.

Aside from them, I was very interested in a few WR’s. Darius Hayward-Bay is tall and fast. Hakim Nicks is pretty interesting, and Polian is looking at him

by metal_militia on Feb 24, 2009 12:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Perfect analysis..

of the SC backers!! Those 3 can all play ball and I would be thrilled with any of them. I am a little worried that Polian is looking at WR. I would rather focus on the defense early on…however, I really do like Nicks!! But better yet I think someone like Robiskie (sp) would be perfect in the Colts system.

by TRDean on Feb 24, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

After looking at the 40 times for the DB's this year

There is a good chance some good ones could slip down into our later slots. This is a where 40’s do matter, but because we run a cover 2, any of these talented corners would do.

by metal_militia on Feb 24, 2009 5:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well...

Vontae Davis pretty much ran past Malcolm Jenkins like he stole his lunch money. The corners definitely didn’t show up, but Jenkins would be one of the top potential cover 2 CBs in the league. If he dropped to us, he’d probably be considered best player available. I don’t see him going past Chicago or definitely Tampa Bay. TB has a huge need at CB if Buchanan (who basically said peace) leaves. Barber would be their only legit CB at 34. And if Jenkins happens to get past them, which he may because his 40 was 4.59, there’s a couple other teams that might take a shot. But there definitely is a chance he could drop to us and I definitely wouldn’t be freaking out if we took him. The biggest plus is that it might cause some teams looking at positions we definitely could use might take him and have a trickle down effect that could open up numerous options. If the Jets, Bears, Bucs, Lions, Patriots etc… take a look at him, that’ll make our pick at 27 that much better. Especially if he falls all the way down to Baltimore. They’d probably jump all over him and have them thinking WR is deep enough they can’t pass up on him and we could be looking at Maclin at 27 as an example. Some teams might even look to convert him to a FS or use him as a CB/FS tweener. Atlanta could be rubbing their hands together.

Either way, we definitely have options with guys dropping from the high second to bottom second or even lower.

I forgot who else said it, but I love the combine. You always get those great players who run slower than projected 40s that end up dropping to us so we’re “forced” to take them. For some reason that seems to have worked for us to a certain degree.

And I don’t want to burst your bubble BBS, but Everette Brown pretty much solidified the #2 DE or potentially the #1 after Orakpo pulled his hamstring. Those guys are going to be primo with everyone going to a 3-4.

I’m seriously digging a couple LBs though. Brinkley, who you guys have probably seen me salivating over but noted he probably had to drop some weight, came in at 252 and ran a nice 40 (4.72). And Jason Phillips had a great workout. Follet, McRath, and Ellerbe all did well too. And Laurinaitis will probably be projected right around our pick or the 2nd round now with his slower 40. I’m not too scared of that though.

Not to mention Hood was showing some serious speed for a 300 lb DT. 4.91 second 40 AND 34 reps? He might be a legit bottom first rounder now. Too bad Jerry didn’t participate.

Overall this draft is shaping up to be extremely Colts oriented. The LBs, DTs, and WRs all showed there is a TON of depth. I’m not as worried about not getting Jerry if Hood’s still around. Or there’s quite a few other options later. The top tier RBs (Moreno, McCoy, Wells) all performed fantastically craptastic (I actually think Wells had a great combine) so there’s a legit chance of having a shot at one if they Colts choose to go that route. As for receivers….yeah, it pretty much shaped up so there’s pretty much very high potential in every round. They really showed up. You basically have your option for any style receiver. Slot guys, possession guys, deep threat, and big guys. And guys that could be a few of those in one. Just look at the size and times of some of the guys. Robiskie (6’3 4.49 with a 37.5" vert), Kenny Britt (6’3 4.52 37" vert and a 10’4" broad jump), Aaron Kelly (6’5 4.49 and a 38" vert – although his 225 rep of 11 might mean he could be exposed to physical corners), and holy crap Ramses Barden (6’6 4.57 40 – call that slow but 6’6 is crazy; and I heard an interview on Sirius, he’s got a really good head on his shoulders, very intelligent).

Anyway, I don’t think I could’ve predicted a better set of circumstances for the Colts going into the draft. With the depth at the positions we need, and where we are in the draft, I think there’s someone there that will be a great pick no matter which route we take.

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Feb 24, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, I think you and a bunch of other people put way too much stock in the combine. It’s nice to know a guy’s measurables and all, but none of that matters if he can’t perform during a game setting. The best way to really judge anyone is by watching the film, period. To think that a guy is going to drop 20 draft spots because he runs .1 seconds slower than what a bunch of people thought he was going to is just laughable. Oh well.

This line will remain in my signature until the Colts draft Rashad Jennings in 2009.

by KingRichard on Feb 24, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A guys measureables

I think they are important. There are several players coming out of college that have similar stats, production, and playing style. To make it easier to separate these top tier players, measurables are needed.

by metal_militia on Feb 25, 2009 1:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's actually my point

If you actually read what I wrote, that’s what I said. I said Jenkins, Moreno, Laurinaitis etc.. would all be great picks but because they ran slow, or much slower than expected, then we could benefit. Don’t come in trying to cause a ruckus with me and be misquoting me. If you got a problem with what I say, at least make sure you know what I was saying.

But yes, I do actually think a guy that runs a 4.57 and has almost size 11 hands is a good prospect. I also think some of the guys I assume were slower (Nicks) proved me wrong and there are potential gems there. And I also think I’m not as worried about not getting Jerry in the 1st because Hood is extremely fast for his size, and is also extremely fitting for the Colts system. Not to mention that other guys I had already had my eye on performed as well, or better than I had hoped. I didn’t expect Follet, McRath, Ellerbe, Phillips etc.. to be quite as fast as they ended up being and already thought they might be worth a shot. So yes, the guys that I already thought might be a good fit performed better than I expected. And if you don’t think someone might rate Moreno slightly lower because he ran a 4.6 you’re mistaken. It doesn’t make or break a player, but it can move them up or down a few spots. Especially when you’re talking about guys that weren’t first round prospects in the first place. A combine can, and has moved them up rounds and down rounds.

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Feb 25, 2009 1:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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