Mock Draft Survey

by shake n bake on Feb 28, 2009 9:19 PM EST

We've had some time for the combine to be analyzed so let's check the mocks

Draft-Tek: WR Kenny Britt, DT Fili Moala, RB Andre Brown

I really like that draft. Britt is bigger than your average Colts WR, but he fits their profile as a good route runner, good hands, willing blocker, has speed but not a burner (4.52 40). Moala is a talented player who wasn't always shown the on-the-field effort. That's not someone I want as a 1st round pick, but in the late 2nd at a position of need the potential reward could definately be worth the risk. Andre Brown is a versatile back, who can contribute catching the ball and blocking, he wasn't explosive in college but his 40 time shows a very good size-speed combo (4.49 at 228lbs, highest speed score of the combine), he wasn't a big producer in college due to split time and injury, but has shown great talents. He remind you of anyone?

Walterfootball: WR Hakeem Nicks, DT Sen'Derrick Marks, QB Nate Davis

Much less of a fan of this draft. I like Nicks fine, but in their mock they committed the cardinal sin of passing on Jerry. Marks is fine for a 2nd rounder if Jerry doesn't fall. Davis is a waste with more likely/immediate needs to be filled with guys that go before Indy's next pick. Mitch King, Andre Brown, Shonn Greene, Mike Hamlin or Emanuel Cook (for monsterbox's 4-2-5), LB Dannell Ellerbe and a number of CBs would all be a bigger help to Indy than Davis.

The rest (13 latest of HailRedskins database).

DT Peria Jerry x4

RB Chris Wells

RB Knowshon Moreno

WR Hakeem Nicks

WR Darrius Heyward-Bey

WR Brian Robiskie

DT Ron Brace

CB Mike Mickens

OC Max Unger

DE Micheal Johnson

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Nate Davis = beast

The guy is like Kordell Stewart, he can do anything…….maybe not. Polian even went to look at Davis a few times at Ball State. But your right. Other problems must be adressed………….

Nate Davis = beast, God I hope he doesn't go to Detriot.......

by colts9318rock on Feb 28, 2009 9:28 PM EST reply actions

and not only the pick

I don’t think he could beat out Sorgi as a rookie, with some time in the system I think he would but for at least the 1st year he’d be eating up a roster spot and sitting behind Sorgi.

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Feb 28, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions

Maybe as a 6th or 7th round pick

people have him going in the 2nd and 3rd. I would be pissed if we got him that high. He does have a below average IQ that could hurt his chances of being picked early.

Nate Davis = beast, God I hope he doesn't go to Detriot.......

by colts9318rock on Feb 28, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions

Check this out. Davis would be an awsome pick up for some one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivgcGCMt4Rs

Nate Davis = beast, God I hope he doesn't go to Detriot.......

by colts9318rock on Feb 28, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions

Pat White

I’d take Pat White over Nate Davis any day of the week. Everyone keeps saying Pat White’s hurting his stock by not working out at other positions, but the only thing he keeps doing is proving he’s the best QB of the draft. They’re the only one that says he looks like he could play in the NFL with his arm and accuracy. And he throws the best ball by far. I kind of feel bad for the guy. Just because he’s fast and shorter than a typical QB, they look down on him. Even though the other guys look like crap.

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Mar 1, 2009 12:23 AM EST up reply actions

did you not watch the video above?

I dont think Davis “looked like crap”

Nate Davis = beast, God I hope he doesn't go to Detriot.......

by colts9318rock on Mar 1, 2009 8:09 AM EST up reply actions

Kenny Britt

I agree with you on those mocks, the Draft-Tek scenario is more likely, but I also think it’s a worst-case for the Colts. I also thought Britt was less than a polished route-runner, and Heyward-Bey seems like more of a playmaker, with smarts and lots of upside—potentially a better fit.

Do you think they could reach for Ziggy Hood or Ron Brace, or Brian Robiskie in the first round? I’ve read that Hood’s performance at the Combine may now legitimate a first-round pick. And if they somehow get a DT in the first, you think they’d ideally want Juaquin Iglesias in the second? Or maybe Andre Brown? And do we know if Shonn Greene can catch, because I’ve only seen Youtube highlights and that doesn’t show much in terms of his hands.

by CooperManningsNotTrying on Feb 28, 2009 10:42 PM EST reply actions

Hood

At this point Hood’s stock is climbing quickly. I’d not only be fine with taking Hood, I’d be grateful. I don’t think Jerry will be there, Raji might be a top 10 pick, and I’d put Hood as the third best DT. I heard his interview on Sirius, he’s a legit 1st rounder. He’s extremely intelligent, knows exactly the technique for a DT, and can squat 730 lbs and bench 475. He’s ridiculously strong and ran faster than anybody could’ve expected. I’d love him.

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Mar 1, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions

He can squat 730

I am not arguing the numbers here, but is he even human? Can humans really squat that much? Basically he and a twin could lift one of those small new cars like the Smart ForTwo. I am just mystified.

I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.

by Bobman on Mar 1, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions

Greene's hands are unproven

he was just barely into double digit catches for his college career. His hands looked good in the few opportunities he had, but he was getting maybe one pass a game thrown at him.

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Mar 1, 2009 5:12 AM EST up reply actions

I watched him every game he played at Iowa

I’ve seen him make some pretty good grabs on poorly thrown balls, and I’ve seen him drop one or two that should have been easy catches. It’s not like the guy has stone hands or anything, but he’s certainly not Marshall Faulk.

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by Colteyes on Mar 2, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions

I'm not quite a stickler on catching

As I am about his pass protection. Addai can come in to catch, and has great pass protection. If Greene, or any RB, doesn’t have good pass protection, I’ll pass.

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Mar 2, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions

he can block

he’s got the frame and the effort

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Mar 2, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions

I’ve never seen a mock draft I like when it comes to the Colts’ picks. So, I just refuse to read them all.

This line will remain in my signature until the Colts draft Rashad Jennings in 2009.

by KingRichard on Mar 1, 2009 12:33 AM EST reply actions

Reading between the lines about guys who "take plays off"

The description of “Moala is a talented player who wasn’t always shown the on-the-field effort. " above has me wondering… when people are talked about like that or their rep is they "take plays off,” does it mean they are lazy, distracted, bored, physically or mentally tired? (I’ve heard this about Haynesworth, yet he can now buy his own personal jet for cash, so it is not exactly a toxic grade to get.) Or is part of it they (specifically DTs here) are out on the field for 12-15 consecutive plays and get a little bored/shell-shocked. The opponents send a blocking FB and RB at you three straight plays and you feel as if you are part of the leading surge at Omaha Beach on D-Day. Then they roll out to the other side to pass and you unconsciously think “whew, finally I can catch my breath and slack off” so your effort looks perfunctory. Seems to be a natural (non elite athlete) response.

If that IS what is meant, well, wouldn’t a rotation system of 4 plays in and out counteract it? He would be less tired, less mentally fatigued, and more hungry to get in and show what he could do if his time is limited. If he’s a big cheese in college and not worried about competition taking away his reps, or the only guy good enough for the coach to keep out there, it’s one thing. You have to put him out and live with his “laziness.” But if he’s rested and constantly pushed because of fewer reps and high-quality teammate competition, well, wouldn’t that motivate a typical person to make the most of his time on field?

If they give 100% 50% of the time, 90% 25% of the time, and 75% 25% of the time, I assume pro coaching and teammates and a rotation system with fewer reps could get that up to 100% 80% of the time, 90% 10% of the time and 80% the last 10. (Anybody who gives 75 out on the field and is not injured or sick is probably looking for work the next day). And that’s okay for me. We do not need the best DT in the NFL. If we got him, great, but nobody expects that.

Okay, I’ll quit playing team psychologist. But if my reasoning above holds water, then I am not too concerned about less mature guys not giving 100% every time in college.

I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.

by Bobman on Mar 1, 2009 1:25 AM EST reply actions

Shake I do find it funny

that you have both Mitch King and Shonn Greene listed in there, don’t get me wrong I love both of em and you know this, and I would love to see King especially because I think he fits our D, but I just found it funny

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by Colteyes on Mar 2, 2009 7:45 PM EST reply actions

I'm not even a big fan of Greene for the Colts

but a lot of the non-Iowa fans on here bring him up. I actually like Andre Brown better for Indy. Since no one took the bait on the comparison. Brown really reminds me of Addai. He’s a bigger back so he’s less likely to “dance” like all the Addai haters bash him for, but has a lot of the same traits: hands, blocking, surprising fast 40, talented but not hugely productive in college,

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Mar 2, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions

I like the Donald Brown

I’ve liked him for awhile. He’s a little bigger than Addai, not quite as much as Andre, but he runs with power. He’s a power run and his build is that shortish thickly built type. He was a track star and has a 41.5 inch vertical. He’s also pretty good in the passing game. He’s a one cut runner with speed. But he’ll probably be a mid second round pick. A little higher than what you’re talking about.

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Mar 2, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions

I was messing around with Draftek

Spent a little time messing around with the rankings of team interest based on free agency and whatnot counting for what’s gone in free agency so far. I need to tweak it a little bit, but surprisingly, it turned out better than I thought it would. Some of the picks are off a bit, but I’ll tweak it later. I didn’t do the traded picks yet either, but honestly, I think it turned out better than I expected. Even Stafford dropping to the Redskins potentially makes a little bit of sense. I think I might drop their ranking though, didn’t think a 4 or whatever I put would put him to their pick. I’ll probably do the lockout and grabs too. But the Colts one actually turned out pretty good. Can’t say I’d complain about it. Even though I rated a LB at a 2 or a 3. Too bad I think they’re still going off of old rankings for players. Anyway, here it is.

Remember, this isn’t MY draft, just my manipulation of team needs.

Round Pick Team Selection Psn School CRI Delta ReachValue
1 1 Detroit Andre Smith OT Alabama P1 -3 Reach
1 2 St Louis Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech P1 +1 Value
1 3 Kansas City Eugene Monroe OT Virginia P3 -2 Reach
1 4 Seattle Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio State P3 +1 Value
1 5 Cleveland Aaron Curry OLB Wake Forest P1 +3 Value
1 6 Cincinnati Michael Oher OT Mississippi P1 -3 Reach
1 7 Oakland Everette Brown DE Florida State P2 -3 Reach
1 8 Jacksonville Jason Smith OT Baylor P3 -3 Reach
1 9 Green Bay BJ Raji DT Boston College P2 +1 Value
1 10 San Francisco Brian Cushing OLB USC P2 -6 Reach
1 11 Buffalo Brian Orakpo DE Texas P1 -1 Reach
1 12 Denver Rey Maualuga ILB USC P2 -3 Reach
1 13 Washington Matthew Stafford QB Georgia P4 +7 Value
1 14 New Orleans DJ Moore CB Vanderbilt P2 -7 Reach
1 15 Houston Peria Jerry DT Mississippi P3 -3 Reach
1 16 San Diego James Laurinaitis ILB Ohio State P3R -6 Reach
1 17 NY Jets Mark Sanchez QB USC P2 +10 Value
1 18 Chicago Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri P3 +4 Value
1 19 Tampa Bay Percy Harvin WR Florida P2 -1 Reach
1 20 Detroit Aaron Maybin OLB Penn State P3R -7 Reach
1 21 Philadelphia Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia P3 +8 Value
1 22 Minnesota Eben Britton OT Arizona P2 -7 Reach
1 23 New England Larry English OLB Northern Illinois P1 -9 Reach
1 24 Atlanta Vontae Davis CB Illinois P1 +0 Value
1 25 Miami Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest P3 +0 Value
1 26 Baltimore Tyson Jackson DE LSU P2 +0 Value
1 27 Indianapolis Chris Wells RB Ohio State P3 +10 Value
1 28 Philadelphia Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St P3 +9 Value
1 29 NY Giants Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina P2 +1 Value
1 30 Tennessee Sean Smith CB Utah P2 +0 Value
1 31 Arizona LeSean McCoy RB Pittsburgh P2 +8 Value
1 32 Pittsburgh Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland P3 +1 Value
2 33 Detroit Alex Mack OC California P3 -4 Reach
2 34 Kansas City Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech P2 +1 Value
2 35 St Louis William Beatty OT Connecticut P2 +0 Value
2 36 Cleveland Shonn Greene RB Iowa P3 +0 Value
2 37 Seattle Donald Brown RB Connecticut P2 -8 Reach
2 38 Cincinnati Max Unger OC Oregon P2 -1 Reach
2 39 Jacksonville Darius Butler CB Connecticut P2 -3 Reach
2 40 Oakland Phil Loadholt OT Oklahoma P2 -13 Reach
2 41 Green Bay Clint Sintim OLB Virginia P2 +7 Value
2 42 Buffalo Clay Matthews OLB USC P3 +4 Value
2 43 San Francisco Derrick Williams WR Penn State P3 +0 Value
2 44 Miami Duke Robinson OG Oklahoma P4R +3 Value
2 45 NY Giants Patrick Chung SS Oregon P3 -1 Reach
2 46 Houston William Moore FS Missouri P5 +2 Value
2 47 New England Kenny Britt WR Rutgers P3 +0 Value
2 48 Denver Robert Ayers DE Tennessee P3 -1 Reach
2 49 Chicago Paul Kruger DE Utah P2 -5 Reach
2 50 Tampa Bay Josh Freeman QB Kansas St P3 +0 Value
2 51 Dallas Herman Johnson OG LSU P3 +3 Value
2 52 NY Jets Brian Robiskie WR Ohio State P2 +1 Value
2 53 Philadelphia Louis Delmas FS Western Michigan P1 -16 Reach
2 54 Minnesota Jairus Byrd CB Oregon P3 +2 Value
2 55 Atlanta Chase Coffman TE Missouri P2 +15 Value
2 56 Miami Jamon Meredith OT South Carolina P3 -8 Reach
2 57 Baltimore Juaquin Iglesias WR Oklahoma P2 +2 Value
2 58 New England Darry Beckwith ILB LSU P2 -9 Reach
2 59 Carolina Connor Barwin DE Cincinnati P2 +1 Value
2 60 NY Giants Tyrone McKenzie OLB South Florida P3R -15 Reach
2 61 Indianapolis Evander Hood DT Missouri P2 +0 Value
2 62 Tennessee Marcus Freeman OLB Ohio State P3R -15 Reach
2 63 Arizona James Casey TE Rice P3 -2 Reach
2 64 Pittsburgh Victor Harris CB Virginia Tech P3 +7 Value
3 65 Detroit Gerald McRath ILB Southern Miss P3R -21 Reach
3 66 St Louis Michael Hamlin SS Clemson P2 -8 Reach
3 67 Kansas City Fili Moala DT USC P3 +5 Value
3 68 Seattle Jonathan Luigs OC Arkansas P3 +8 Value
3 69 Dallas Derek Pegues FS Mississippi St P2 -3 Reach
3 70 Cincinnati Mike Mickens CB Cincinnati P4 +11 Value
3 71 Oakland Sen’Derrick Marks DT Auburn P3 +1 Value
3 72 Jacksonville Louis Murphy WR Florida P3 -8 Reach
3 73 Green Bay Fenuki Tupou OT Oregon P2 -9 Reach
3 74 San Francisco Coye Francies CB San Jose St P3 +8 Value
3 75 Buffalo Jared Cook TE South Carolina P3 +7 Value
3 76 NY Jets Troy Kropog OT Tulane P3 -13 Reach
3 77 Houston Javon Ringer RB Michigan State P5 +21 Value
3 78 San Diego Jarron Gilbert DE San Jose St P2 -13 Reach
3 79 Denver Cody Brown OLB Connecticut P3R -21 Reach
3 80 Washington Zack Follett OLB California P2 -21 Reach
3 81 Tampa Bay Asher Allen CB Georgia P3 +10 Value
3 82 Detroit Domonique Johnson CB Jackson State P5 +3 Value
3 83 Green Bay Mitch King DE Iowa P2 -25 Reach
3 84 Chicago Rashad Johnson FS Alabama P2 -21 Reach
3 85 Philadelphia Eric Wood OC Louisville P3 +9 Value
3 86 Minnesota Mohamed Massaquoi WR Georgia P3 +1 Value
3 87 Miami Andy Levitre OG Oregon State P5 +4 Value
3 88 Baltimore Antoine Caldwell OC Alabama P2 +1 Value
3 89 New England Captain Munnerlyn CB South Carolina P3 +5 Value
3 90 Atlanta Ron Brace DT Boston College P3 +9 Value
3 91 NY Giants Rashad Jennings RB Liberty P4 +28 Value
3 92 Indianapolis Augustus Parrish OT Kent State P2 -19 Reach
3 93 Carolina Ramses Barden WR Cal-Poly P3 +0 Value
3 94 Tennessee Nate Davis QB Ball State P5 +16 Value
3 95 Arizona Jonathan Casillas OLB Wisconsin P3R -29 Reach
3 96 Pittsburgh Kraig Urbik OG Wisconsin P3 +6 Value

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Mar 3, 2009 8:27 PM EST reply actions

RB, DT, OT is solid

I like Hood in the second.

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Mar 3, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions

I like Hood.

But, don’t like Beanie in the first…

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Mar 4, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions

That’s almost like a fantasy draft for the Colts.

This line will remain in my signature until the Colts draft Rashad Jennings in 2009.

by KingRichard on Mar 4, 2009 8:02 AM EST up reply actions

percey harvin

the drafts ive seen lately have the colts taking harvin in the first round. if this happens talk about scarry. yea he might not have the forty time of howard-bey but he has true game speed if you watched florida win the national title you would have seen that. with a bad ankle he still tourched oklahomas linebackers and d line. if you put a player like that in the colts offenceive sets every d cordniator would have fits. plus with his speed returing punts and kicks. we might have really good field position to start with

by coltsfanfrm94 on Mar 6, 2009 10:09 AM EST reply actions