It's time to put Peter King out to pasture
I'm almost utterly speechless:
"What I ask myself all the time about Marvin Harrison...and again, it's not 5, 6, 7 years from now when we'll be considering Marvin Harrison, but this is just my knee-jerk reaction right now. What exactly is there...a signature catch, is there an incredible game, what is there about Marvin Harrison other than ridiculous incredible numbers..."
That is a quote from Peter King recently, transcribed by 18 to 88 from this audio interview. I've railed against this fat, bloated prick for years, citing example after example of how this guy knows absolutely nothing about football. Yet, he is one of the most powerful people in the football world. He is a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame voting committee. That is a very prestigious honor. And yet, despite having so much power, this Jabba the Hut schmuck actually questions the Hall of Fame credentials of Marvin Harrison.
18 to 88 takes it to this level:
In a day when people are honestly discussing the Hall of Fame candidacy of Kurt Warner and his FOUR good years as a QB, I have to begin to question the sanity of voters everywhere. Apparently, the Hall of Fame has become about 'moments' more than about performance. Peter King is basically saying, "I don't care about 7 All Pro teams, records and huge numbers for more than a decade. I prefer one game or one catch I can remember."
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I just gave you a few seconds to chew on those words. Have we really become so simplistic?
We haven't, no. But Peter King has. And now, it is high time some people start to question whether or not he is fit to vote for candidates for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I'm serious. This kind of statement makes me really question Peter King's competence. When a guy like Harrison (who has amassed 1,102 receptions, 14,580 yards, 128 TDs, won a Super Bowl, set the single season record for receptions, and will end his career second only to Jerry Rice in pretty much all meaningful receiver categories) has his HoF credentials questioned, the issue is not Harrison.
The issue is the dumb ass questioning him.
I'll make this very simple for football traditionalists and for people (like me) who care about the Pro Football Hall of Fame: If Marvin Harrison is not a first ballot HoF selection when he retires, then the Hall of Fame is an utterly meaningless "honor," stripped of all legitimacy and integrity. It then becomes a sand castle, built on superficial foundations and ruled over by a gang of uninformed, ignorant fools.
In essence, it becomes as relevant as the Pro Bowl.
This was the final straw with Peter King and his ignorance. I'm now pretty much done with him, unless he clarifies his statement. I doubt he will. Not only are Harrison's "numbers" good enough, but King actually puts more emphasis on snap shot "moments" over long term career accomplishments. It's unreal. And to make King look like even more of a dumbass, he makes himself look like someone who doesn't WATCH FOOTBALL. Again, THIS IDIOT IS A HALL OF FAME VOTER, claiming he can't recall "the signature catch" or "great game" from Marvin Harrison. I guess he's never seen this catch:
Or this one made against the Titans in 2003:
Or seen this playoff game. I guess he missed it when Marvin Harrison tattooed the Colts logo on Champ Bailey's chest in a 2004 playoff game. I guess he missed this little game that Marvin Harrison played in, and won:
Marvin's "signature catch" was the seemingly impossible to make. His great games rivaled Rice, Swan, Biletnikoff, and Berry. All King had to do to see these remarkable plays was go to YouTube and type "Marvin Harrison." I mean, forget the fact that these plays are burned in the minds of just about every person who has watched football over the last 12 years or so.
I'm serious, folks. I think something is wrong with Peter King. Either he is one of the football industries biggest frauds, or he is just THAT f*&king stupid. Regardless, the conclusion is clear: Peter King doesn't know anything about football, and yet is the most prominent writer in media today ON football.
That's scary.
The Hall of Fame induction committee or team or whatever they are better take a long, hard look at King. If not, that building in Canton could turn a meaningless shrine to the idiocy of peons like Peter King rather than a true professional football Hall of Fame.
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PK never ceases to make my jaw drop.
I mean, Marv INVENTED the one-handed-sideline-two tippy toes dragging inbounds-UNBELIEVABLE-OMG catch. I’ve seen many followers, but he is the original. He is precisely why I wasn’t worried when the Force Out Rule was abandoned by the league. I mean, we have Marv, who needs the stinking Force Out Rule?!?!
If the idiot PK wants a signature catch, there are about 1000 to chose from.
And Marv’s numbers simple speak for themselves. Maybe PK should go into politics, he is awesome with ignoring the obvious.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
this is a pretty unbelievable thing to say
He often says dumb stuff but this is beyond dumb. Immediately upon reading his quote I thought of that catch against the Pats. One of the few plays you’ll see in a lifetime where you instantly know that it is an all-time greatest catch. I mean, this was only 2 years ago. Wow
You guys rember that game against the broncos
when there was like three defenders that surronded Harrison and never touched him down. Harrison got up and ran for a TD. lol, no great plays my ass.
Nate Davis = beast, God I hope he doesn't go to Detriot.......
this idiot has a one second memory. and thats pushing it! the fact that he is calling this superbowl the best ever is just laughable! the best ever? it isnt even in my top ten. and yes the teams playing in it has a little to do with the best ever claim. a 9-7 vs 12-4 who beat a 8-8 and a no offense balt and then a barely beat an above .500 team, best ever??? the fact that he kept saying the jacksonville jaguars STILL are superbowl favorites (his prediction of shame) after losing to cleveland and cincinnati pretty much tell you all you need to know about this windbag says it all
but to say that about marvin harrison is just plain ignorant….
everytime I think he cant say something dumber, HE DOES
A lot of media guys are calling it the best Superbowl ever, to be fair.
I don’t think a single one of them would question Marv’s HoF cred, though, which is why Peter King isn’t your average media idiot, but in a class of idiot all his own.
by eltharion_doa on Feb 4, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Here is a rare interveiw with the "Marvolis One" himself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRlRJF3wgsk
Nate Davis = beast, God I hope he doesn't go to Detriot.......
The reporter even askes "why are you not reconized"?
please watch, it is good
Nate Davis = beast, God I hope he doesn't go to Detriot.......
by colts9318rock on Feb 3, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
It's not like he had anything awesome in an important game
What?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4733368594902170726
Or wait, maybe I meant recently. What?
http://colts.fandome.com/video/106338/Week-11-Marvin-Harrisons-Redemption-TD/
Wait, I know what I meant, I meant that everything in this video is “average”
http://www.strimoo.com/video/14388505/Marvin-harrison-MySpaceVideos.html
Uh….
http://media.putfile.com/marvin-harrison
Or you could just watch this Peter
http://colts.fandome.com/video/101638/Top-Ten-Pass-Combos-Peyton-Manning-and-Marvin-Harrison/
Man, they’re cracking down on the youtube videos. All I wanted to put on was the one highlight reel pacerducks put up. They’ve taken down all of his for “copyright” or whatever. Money money money.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
The media in general is just ready to dump Harrison, and I have no freaking idea why. All the guy ever did was go out, play an elite position at an elite level for goddamn-forever and now he’s dog shit?
It’s a public smear campaign designed so that in 15-20 years people won’t know who Marvin is because he will withdraw himself even further from the limelight after all this mud raking
Probably because
he’s not a prissy prima donna. The media LOVES TO and Ocho Cinco and guys like that, b/c it gives them something great to cover. In the era of 24 hour sports coverage on multiple channels, what happens off the field is far more important than what happens on it. Heck, look at Randy Moss – I don’t even know how good of a season he had this year, b/c now that he’s a good citizen, the media doesn’t care about him anymore.
For what it’s worth, I’m a Giants fan, and Marvin has always been one of my favorite players in the league, and I agree, if he’s not a first ballot hall of famer, the process will lose a lot of credibility.
I just hate that knee injury so much. They were still lighting it up in 06 and 07, and then he went down and it just makes me sick. And the hell of it is he’s still a great receiver. I mean, he had only one fewer touchdown pass than Reggie this year. He made some great catches, that one against Houston was spectacular, put up two on the Ravens…he’s got some juice left for sure. But he’s never going to be the guy that he was in 2003 or 2004, and it just makes me sad that those days are gone.
+1
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Feb 3, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
He was the reason we won the SD game
The pass was underthrown. Phenomenal catch.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
I almost choked on my dinner after reading King's quote
Like psvirsky said, I too thought of that catch against the pats a couple of years ago as being his “great” catch. It’s very sad that Peter King actually wants to base a player’s career on one spectacular play or catch. I don’t know if it’s the media’s doing or our society, but it seems that people just want to be associated by one great thing or moment instead of thousands of great moments. Hopefully the other voters aren’t as big of a d!ck as PK.
How Peter King has any kind of respect in sports journalism is beyond me. His reporting is largely name-dropping of athletes he got to be around with the only insight about said athletes being the ridiculously obvious, and talking about something another legitimate journalist already discussed. His weekly column on SI.com is basically a rant about how he’s upset about free amenities he receives in hotels and his opinions on traffic and coffee, with occasionally something about football. Maybe he didn’t get to hang out with Marvin and watch Family Guy with him lately and since he doesn’t have the opportunity to brag to everyone else about it, he decided he’s not HOF-worthy.
It’s mind-boggling that SI.com fired Paul Zimmerman right after his stroke, a guy who can spin an entertaining yarn and actually knows something about football, someone who if he became healthy enough to write again would continue to be a great asset, yet they keep that clown King hanging around. I guess readers really need to know where to get a latte and everything King’s daughter did this week.
Firing may be too strong a word, but he’s basically being forced into retirement, which is pretty much the same thing. http://deadspin.com/5103172/ax-drops-at-sports-illustrated-layoff-rumors-include-hoffer-wolff—and-dr-z
I’m not sure I’d put an awful lot of credence to that post. It’s essentially just taking 1 and 1 and equalling 3.
Dr. Z still can’t talk or write due to the effects of the stroke. If/when he returns to health, I’m sure SI will examine his role and see what he feels like doing for them – if anything. It’s far too early to be speculating about him being forced into a reduced role or retirement – for all anyone knows, he may not be capable of returning at all.
Which would suck.
by eltharion_doa on Feb 5, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
ill say it
FUCK peter king.. hes a fucking moron!
"I may not be a class act, but I'm an American."
-- Ron Artest on wanting to play for the Olympic team
hate to take away from the case
but the 41-10 Colts-Broncos playoff game were Marv went off was the year before the Broncos got Bailey.
Marv torched Deltha O’Neal
You can love me or hate me,
I swear it won't make me or break me
-Lil Wayne "Love me or hate me"
probably a bit harder 5 years ago than now
You can love me or hate me,
I swear it won't make me or break me
-Lil Wayne "Love me or hate me"
absolutely
he made some good plays for us last year, but was torched more often than not. There was zero confidence watching him as the plays would unfold. We need a real corner.
Keep the faith!
and my whacky-person doctor wanted to know why i had a feeling of persecution as a Colts’ fan. Double the dosage, doc, this shit is out of control. Seriously, I no longer feel its even an underlying dislike, its just out and out hatred of the Colts. Peter King’s quote serves no purpose, just like Sal Palantonio’s piece served no purpose.
I’m on record as saying the Colts are underachievers, but how many receivers are in the top 5 in all receiving categories, 2? (i honestly don’t know where Marvin ranks, but i think its top 3 or 4 in everything, top 5 seemed safe). How many teams have won the super bowl? How many QBs have done what Peyton is and will do? How many teams have had the regular season success that the Colts have had?
There are, in my opinion, only two possible excuses for the Colts hatred: An east coast/west coast bias (hating all things rural and mid-western) or a hatred that stems from the Colts/Peyton not living up to whatever level of worship ESPN and the rest of the media tried to put them on in 2003/2004. Either way its embarassing and it should, but probably won’t, stop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmGdAPjcgaM&eurl=http://www.only17points.com/&feature=player_embedded
2nd in receptions, 4th in yards, 5th in TDs.
Rice is #1 across the board.
Cris Carter 3, 7, 4
Tim Brown 4, 3, 6
Issac Bruce 5, 2, 9
Terrel Owens 6, 5, 2
Randy Moss 15, 9, 3
Marvin and Rice are the only players in the top 5 in all 3 categories.
You can love me or hate me,
I swear it won't make me or break me
-Lil Wayne "Love me or hate me"
by shake n bake on Feb 3, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
okay
thats what i thought, thanks for providing actual numbers. I would email Pete, but I think our good buddy has blocked my email address at this point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmGdAPjcgaM&eurl=http://www.only17points.com/&feature=player_embedded
okay then, it's unanimous
Where do we go from here? Letters to the editor at SI? Must be polite. (i.e. avoid using sexual terms, colorectal diseases, and equine body parts to describe PK and his ancestors).
Bobman

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