Albert Haynesworth using Colts to get Titans to pay him
by Brad Wells on Feb 6, 2009 3:29 PM EST
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Albert Haynesworth will not be joining the Colts anytime soon. If he does, I might just shoot golden monkeys out of my butt and sing "I Feel Pretty" while prancing around Broadripple* in a tutu. And while some of you might very well enjoy the site of that, it is highly unlikely to happen.
Ok, check that. If the Colts win another Super Bowl, I might just get drunk enough to don the tutu. But, I digress...
Haynesworth is looking to become the highest paid defensive player in football. That honor is currently held by Dwight Freeney currently held by Jared Allen of the Vikings. Haynesworth wants Freeney-money, and he will likely get it. The problem is the Titans and Haynesworth seem far apart on the dollar amount. So, what does Albert do to leverage Jeff Fisher and Titans management?
Why, he says he wants to play for the Colts. That's what.
ESPN's NFL Live show had a clip of Haynesworth at the Pro Bowl talking about his pending free agency. He then said the Titans better sign him quick because... Albert then motions Robert Mathis to toss him a Colts helmet... because the team with the horseshoe logo looks like a team he would very much like to play for. Albert goes on to say the Colts are a great team because of Peyton, Reggie, and Dwight.
Collectively, Titans fans everywhere suffered mini-heart attacks at the thought of Albert Haynesworth as a Colt.
Robert Mathis's message to the Titans
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I have no link as yet because ESPN doesn't have the clip up. Obviously, from a talent standpoint, adding Haynesworth would be a coup. He would immediately beef up a Colts line that needs stability at DT. In the last three years, they've lost DTs left and right for various reasons (injuries, retirement, illness, smoking weed, you name it). Just look at the names: Corey Simon, Booger McFarland, Montae Reagor, Ed Johnson, and Quinn Pitcock. That's a lot of money, draft picks, and effort at one position. Every single one of those guys is out of football.
Knowing this, and knowing Indy's track record with free agent DTs, there is no way Bill Polian will make a play for Albert Haynesworth. It doesn't work financially. It doesn't work practically. It doesn't work period.
What is neat to see is the best player on a rival team compliment our guys. Lord knows compliments from Titans fans are often few and far between. And I imagine it bothers them slightly that their best player would rather play for the Colts than their Titans. It's also fun to see guys like Peyton and Robert jokingly "recruiting" Haynesworth. And while his signing with the Colts is unlikely, if Haynesworth signs anywhere but Tennessee, the Titans are done. He was their best player in 2008, the lynch pin of their entire defense.
*For you none Hoosiers, Broadripple is an area of north side Indianapolis were former Frat guys drink beer to help them hang onto the memories from old college days, and underage girls flash fake IDs to try and hook up with these same ex-Frat guys. Because of this, pretty much everyone hangs out in Broadripple.
[UPDATE] Yahoo talks about Robert tossing Albert the Colts helmet. Funny lines from Peyton:
"But Albert deserves to have a great contract," Manning said. "I’d love for him to come to Indianapolis. If he doesn’t, I’d like him to leave the division … I’m getting tired of us having to triple team him to get him blocked. (Center) Jeff Saturday says it’s just a nightmare playing against him. So come to us, or go to the NFC."
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- Jared Allen is the highest paid defensive player in football. (Guaranteed money wise…which is the only money that matters in the NFL, Come on BBS, you know that)
- Where does Albert say he would rather play for the Colts?
Dang it, I just took the bait, didn’t I?
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
When you Google "highest paid defensive player"
It still rolls up Freeney. I always forget that Allen got a new contract after he was traded from the Chiefs.
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We finaly get some return for the Titans signing all our FAs over the years
Nate Davis = beast, God I hope he doesn't go to Detriot.......
Not wanting Nate Davis to go to Detriot is stupid
Just because we Hoosiers hate the Pistons, because the city of Detriot stole them from us and turned all their fans into convicts doesn’t mean we have to have the same feeling about the Lions, Red Wings, or Tigers. Detriot isn’t that bad of a city.
Go Colts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by PatsR18*andDONEwithoutCHEATING on Feb 9, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
Headline from the Yahoo article you linked
Haynesworth, Collins want to return to Titans
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
If we would somehow sign Haynesworth
I would be thrilled. I know people talk about him stomping on Gurode’s head, but I’d rather have an idiot on the field than an idiot off the field. It was in the heat of the moment. Ron Artest>Stephen Jackson or Jamaal Tinsley.
lol Artest. That guy is awesome. I still have the imagine of him drilling some fatass fan that ran onto the court during the brawl in Detroit.
This line will remain in my signature until the Colts draft Rashad Jennings in 2009.
the image rather
This line will remain in my signature until the Colts draft Rashad Jennings in 2009.
Artest is my favorite basketball player of all-time
He is hated for some reason, but he was never arrested while playing for the Pacers besides the brawl.
OK
1.Artest is my all time favorite Pacers and basketball player, I wish the Pacers would re-sign him next season.
2.The Pacers are going to buy out Jamaal TInsley’s contract sooner or later. Him and his gamg bangin friend Stephen “Just Shoot Me” Jackson can both go to hell with Bill Belitits and Barry Bonds.
Go Colts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by PatsR18*andDONEwithoutCHEATING on Feb 9, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
even if we could get albert...
do we really want him? is he going to be the same player once he is ‘paid’? i surely dont want corey simon 2.0
1. Corey Simon wasn’t lazy. He was sick.
2. Haynesworth is a risk for any team, but if you have a lot of performance bonuses in there it could help motivate him.
1. Corey Simon was lazy then sick
he was horrifically out of shape when he first got to the Colts, (because apparently when you are holding out of camp you aren’t allowed to keep yourself in respectable shape on your own).
I'm so fly,
I take this parachute off
I might fall and die
-Young Jeezy "Go Crazy"
Not ture
Corey Simon had an outstanding first year with the Colts in 05. Laziness wasn’t the reason he wound up being a free agent bust for the Colts, it was the illness he got in 2006 that should have ended his NFL carrier.
Go Colts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by PatsR18*andDONEwithoutCHEATING on Feb 9, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
you either can't read or can't use the reply function
Colts Homer said Simon wasn’t lazy
I'm so fly,
I take this parachute off
I might fall and die
-Young Jeezy "Go Crazy"
by shake n bake on Feb 9, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
I was replying to your comment about Cory Simon
Being lazy then sick
Go Colts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by PatsR18*andDONEwithoutCHEATING on Feb 9, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Joking aside...
Where does fat Albert go? Who has money, a hole at DT (or an underperforming DT to trade), and cap space to park a 747 on their balance sheet? I really don’t know.
Who could use him? Probably 28 teams would like him. I assume it has to be a 4-3 scheme, though he might be good as a 3-4 NT, it would not use him to the best of his abilities IMO. Maybe 15 teams NEED someone like him. Maybe 8 can actually afford him… the number of logcial new homes for him is finite and getting smaller. The NFC would be fine.
Pretty sure he won’t be on Tenn, SD, Pitt, Balt, or NE next year, which suits me just fine. But maybe Miami, NYJ, Hou, Jax, Den, all of which are decent competition. Hou, with their young LBs, Mario Williams at DE, and Slaton and Johnson on O would be a pretty solid team.
I could see Pioli going for him in KC—make a big splash and get up to a respectable record in his first year…. This might stink of Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones, which would be excellent. Four times a year (combined) they need to stop Manning/Jacobs and McNabb/Westbrook. Oh yeah, that’s what I want to see.
Bobman
Gurode's melon
Okay, good point. That could be problematic. I’ll mark that down as a “maybe.”
Bobman
I think any team that play's a 3-4 defense
is a bad fit for Haynesworth AND THAT INCLUDED THE STEROID ADDICT CHARGERS!!!!!!!!
Go Colts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by PatsR18*andDONEwithoutCHEATING on Feb 9, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
You can also throw in
I wouldn’t count Tampa out of the Haynesworth sweepstakes either since they are 40 million under the cap. And I also think Denver is more interested in Peppers then Haynesworth.
Go Colts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by PatsR18*andDONEwithoutCHEATING on Feb 9, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Stay classy, Haynesworth
Obviously him finally living up to his potential in his contract years just happened to be a coincidence.
Joking aside
I know there are plenty of reasons why the Colts probably won’t go after Haynesworth (I think BBS did a good job of going over them in his post), but my question is simply whether we have the cap room to get him. I know we don’t have a ton of room and I would imagine Haynesworth would eat up a lot of it (and doughnuts. Lots of doughnuts).
Also, I don’t know that we can get Haynesworth with a contract laden with performance incentives. I think too many teams will be chasing him for that to happen.
All that being said, I like the thought of seeing #92 jerseys in the stadium next year with “Fat Albert” written on the back.
Theoretically it might be possible
If you cut certain players this year and convert Dallas Clark’s upcoming roster bonus into a signing bonus to prorate over the remaining 5 years, you could maybe free up enough cash and leave just enough room to sign the rookie class.
You would certainly kiss Kelvin Hayden, Marlin Jackson, and every other starter in the back seven other than Bob Sanders goodbye once their rookie/current contracts run out.
If you knew the league were to stay uncapped once they go into uncapped 2010, that would make things much easier if Jim Irsay is willing to spend, but you can’t really bank on one possible scenario.
I was thinking about the (possibly) uncapped year
It could make things interesting if all of a sudden football looks a lot more like baseball.
Also
Losing the LB’s doesn’t worry me too much. I think we look for a different sort of LB than most teams so that is a position that we could theoretically re-build relatively easily. Don’t get me wrong, I like Brackett and Kehio and I thought Buster Davis filled in admirably. I just think it is one of the easier positions for the Colts to rebuild.
However, losing Bethea (and to a lesser extent Hayden and Jackson) is pretty scary.
Dude
Buster Davis sucked last season. He was the reason why the Lions actually tied the Colts last season and the Jags put up 24 points on the Colts in that Thrusday night game. But even though Davis had about the worst season I’ve ever seen from any LB who has ever played for the Cotls. He still may be worth holding on to as a practice squad player, since maybe Davis did bad in a Tampa 2 last season, becasue he was still learning it.
Go Colts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by PatsR18*andDONEwithoutCHEATING on Feb 9, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
Buster Davis was with Detroit before
It’s not that he’s learning the Tampa 2, it’s just that he’s awful.
by project geo on Feb 10, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Or maybe, just maybe (BIG TIME MAYBE AT THAT)
Someone like Freeney will either take a pay cut or restructure his contract for Haynesworth so he can get more sacks. But I highly doubt that happens. But hey, no one thought Tom Brady would ever take a pay-cut for Randy Moss or Todd Heap would ever take a pay-cut for Terrel Suggs.
Go Colts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by PatsR18*andDONEwithoutCHEATING on Feb 9, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
Why the hell should Freeney take a pay cut?
He’s been here since day one and has played hard for this franchise every day. His agent got Polian to pay crazy money, which isn’t the first or probably last time because he’s awful with contracts, but that’s Polian’s fault. Not Freeney’s fault.
by project geo on Feb 10, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Hey Albert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The only way you will ever win a super bowl is if you come to Indy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Colts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by PatsR18*andDONEwithoutCHEATING on Feb 9, 2009 11:40 AM EST reply actions
I laughed when I read Mike Silver linking us to him, and this article just confirms it.
We can’t afford him.
Not true
I haven’t finished my analysis of our salary cap situation but I’ve been finding some interesting things. Reading through the complete CBA and cross referencing with numerous sources is rather time consuming. Suffice to say, don’t believe everything you read.
Of course, by the time I completely figure it out, they’ll be announcing salary cap issues. I won’t go into details yet because I want to understand this completely. However, I can tell you this; from what I’ve seen so far, we’re not in any danger of not being able to sign our own guys. Free agents, well, I’ll have to look into that. Since the CBA is expiring, the details about new contracts and renegotiating current contracts is extremely complicated.
Either way, both the players and teams better be prodding the NFLPA to get to work on finding a replacement for Upshaw and getting to the table mas pronto.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
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