Pats Close to Trading for Peppers
by zkmavz on Mar 16, 2009 4:24 PM EDT
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PrintThe trade that sent Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel to the Kansas City Chiefs appears to be only the first phase of some major wheeling and dealing by the New England Patriots this offseason.
The second phase, NFL sources say, is likely to involve a trade that would send Carolina Panthers defensive end Julius Peppers to the Patriots in exchange for the second-round pick (34th overall) they received from the Chiefs on Feb. 28.
According to league sources, the Patriots and Panthers are hoping to complete the deal at some point between the March 22-25 NFL owners meetings and the start of the draft on April 25.
Peppers, on whom the Panthers have placed a franchise tag that assures him of a one-year contract worth $16.68 million, would be converted to outside linebacker in New England's 3-4 defense.
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If the Panthers are only getting a second round pick
for peppers, then they are getting fleeced. I would ask for 3 of those 4 2nd round picks for peppers (at least I think the Pats have 4 2nd rounders)
4 picks in the first 2 rounds. 2 firsts and 2 seconds?? 1 first and 3 seconds?
2 firsts and 2 seconds seems right
Please, please draft a big Defensive Tackle. Please?
1 first 3 seconds
their 1st, their 2nd, the Chiefs 2nd (for Cassel/Vrabel) and the Chargers 2nd (for their 3rd last year to get Jacob Hester)
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by shake n bake on Mar 16, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
then
the Panthers should ask all of NE second rounders.
by metal_militia on Mar 16, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Uh
I don’t think Peppers has even signed his tag yet so technically they can’t trade him. And if he does sign it, I don’t think the Pats have the cap room for a 17.5 million contract and it’d be stupid to give up the compensation picks for him.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
They'd probably have to have a contract agreed on with Peppers before the deal
so then Peppers signs the tag, Panthers trade his rights for the 2nd rounder and Peppers signs the previously agreed upon contract.
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by shake n bake on Mar 16, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
I know that’s what they’d have to do, but there’s several other teams that’d give up their first round pick for Peppers. It happens with every rumor about an elite player and the media frenzy. Jason Taylor was supposed to be a Patriot .1 seconds after getting released from the Redskins. If you went by the media rumors and assumptions, the Patriots would look like :
Tom Brady
Randy Moss
Wes Welker
Larry Fitzgerald
Antonio Gates
Tomlinson
LeRon McClain
Orlando Pace
Matt Birk
Alan Faneca
Matt Light
Richard Seymour
Ellis Hobbs
Leigh Bodden
Jerod Mayo
Julius Peppers
Adalius Thomas
Vince Wilfork
Ed Reed
Jermaine Phillips
Rey Lewis
Jason Taylor
Not to mention Peppers could fall flat on his face switching to OLB. Dwight or Mathis sound like great fits for OLB but I’d never want them to switch. I don’t think they’d be as dominant. Maybe Mathis since he’s a pass rushing specialist. Peppers doesn’t want to play OLB, he saw what Ware did and wants to blitz 100% of the time standing up. That’s a 4-3 with you standing up….
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
This means tha,t essentially
New England would have traded Matt Cassel for Peppers. It is a good move for NE, overall.
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yeah
Cassel and Vrabel for Peppers sounds much better than Cassel and Vrabel for a second rounder.
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by shake n bake on Mar 16, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
So you're telling me
The Pats defensive line next year could consist of Seymour, Wilfork, and Peppers? Crikey.
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Peppers wants to be a 3-4 OLB
no idea if he’ll stick to his guns there, or if he was just giving the Panthers an impossible to fill task so they’d get rid of him.
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by shake n bake on Mar 16, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
That's right
I forgot about that part. As you can tell, I’ve been keeping up quite well with football lately. (But the basketball season is almost over, I’ll catch up soon. Are TO and Jerry Jones still getting along? :P)
But even still, a linebacker corps with Bruschi, Mayo, Thomas, and Peppers doesn’t help me sleep at night either.
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by Jake Whitacre on Mar 16, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Old, Good, Overrated, Overrated
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Good
If Peppers wants to rush 100% of the time, doesn’t it take more of the guessing game out of the 3-4? For Peyton, it would seem to make that defense easier to solve and pick apart. Other than Mayo, those LBs are slow and getting old fast. Clark would have a field day….
I love it
I dearly hope this happens and that the Pats sign Peppers to a monster contract.
Please make it so, Belichick.
Me too. Peppers is so overrated it’s not even funny. Sign him!
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I love that peope arguing Peppers over Freeney talked about Freeney not playing the run
but Peppers now comes out and flat out says he doesn’t want a DE’s run D responsibilities, he just wants to go after the QB.
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by shake n bake on Mar 16, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
It's hard
To play the run, play the pass, play football when you’re being double teamed every play and people have a deathgrip on your facemask and they’re not calling it. Dwight’s alot better against the run than some fools think.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
period
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why is peppers overrated?
http://www.irun.com/users/6967/downloads/Jays%20Win%20Back-to-Back%20World%20Series.mp3
by torontocoltsfan on Mar 16, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
he immediately became overrated
as soon as Vic Carucci of NFL.com reported that the Patriots were interested in signing him I think.
Keep the faith!
yah
the dude’s 6’7 280, ridiculous wingspan, double digit sack machine, still only 29 and rarely gets injured.
he may not be as explosive as freeney, but i find it hard to call him overrated. I don’t want to see him in a Pats uniform.
http://www.irun.com/users/6967/downloads/Jays%20Win%20Back-to-Back%20World%20Series.mp3
by torontocoltsfan on Mar 16, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Adam Schefter
just told Boston Sportsradio WEEI this morining that the odds of Peppers NOT playing for the Patriots are 99.9%. In his opinion the deal will not happen simply because it would cost to much and New England still has some key players it has to sign (Wilfork, Seymour, Mankins.) It was a nice thought though.
Keep the faith!
Big Reach by BB
Moving Peppers to OLB in a 3-4 would be a mistake IMHO. I don’t see the fit, even if he rushes the passer on most downs he’ll still occasionally have added responsibilities that he probably doesn’t want, and isn’t ideally suited for. Everyone always thinks that every fast DE could be converted to OLB but it doesn’t seem to happen/work very often. I’ll believe it when I see it anyway. The Pats seem to be a big rumor machine this time of year, of course with ESPN so close by and so ready to tout ANY Pats news/rumor it’s pretty easy for them to generate disinformation.
Panthers | Hurney denies possible Peppers trade talk
Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:19:39 -0700
Charles Chandler, of the Charlotte Observer, reports Carolina Panthers general manager Marty Hurney issued a statement denying a report that stated the Panthers were talking with the New England Patriots about a possible trade involving DE Julius Peppers. “By the rules of the CBA, we cannot and have not had any conversations with other teams about Julius. Under the non-exclusive franchise tag, Julius and his agent, Carl Carey, are within their rights to talk to other teams about a potential contract. However, at this point, we are not aware of any such conversations,” Hurney said.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
so they aren't suppose to talk about trading him unti he signs
because obviously you can have trade talks about a signed F-Tagged player (Cassel).
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by shake n bake on Mar 17, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
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