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Peria Jerry v. "Ziggy" Hood - YOU DECIDE 2009

We'll start out with Peria Jerry, and while I prefer Hood over Jerry, I absolutely recognize that he is a talented DT and would be very effective with the Colts.  If we picked Peria Jerry instead of Evander Hood, with both available, I wouldn't be devestated by any stretch.

Peria Jerry
6'2", 299 lbs.

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2008 Season Highlights
Draft Guys TV

We'll start with Jerry's analysis from multiple sources.  Rather than simply link EVERY source verbatim, to save space, I'll cut repeats out of the positives and negatives emphasizing those attributes which I believe Jerry is likely superior to Hood and areas I think Jerry is inferior.

Sources:  NFL.com, SportsXchange, NFLDraftCountdown.com, WalterFootball.com

Analysis

Strengths:

  • Very athletic - Quick - Very quick off the snap - Terrific Speed - Agility to shed blocks - Explosive - Good in pursuit with burst to close - Fantastic motor - Comfortable in space
  • Good size - Tough in the trenches - Pushes the pocket - Plays low to the ground - Handles double-teams pretty well - Three-technique - Penetrates well - Uses hands well - Abilty to shed blocks - Productive against top competition
  • Hard worker - Second-effort - Instincts - Awareness - Team leader
  • Improving - Might have some upside - Clean off the field - Athletic blood lines


Weaknesses:

  • Needs to play stronger at the point against the run - Can play a bit high in rushing situations - Can lose leverage battle - Needs to stay on his feet against strong linemen - Needs to get stronger (upper body) - Not great size or bulk - Struggles against bigger linemen
  • Lacks great awareness - Does not keep his eyes in the backfield - Takes himself out of plays too often
  • Intelligence (low test score)
  • Injury concerns - Will be a 25-year-old rookie - Frame is awfully close to being maxed out - Does not carry weight well


My take:

Jerry is better than Hood bull rushing and collapsing the pocket.  Jerry handles double-teams better than Hood.  Jerry is a bit more explosive out of the blocks than Hood.  However, Jerry also does not have a great nose for the football.  Jerry is not very intelligent and it could hurt him as he tries to learn a new playbook.  He needs to get stronger, particularly in his upper body.  His frame is nearly maxed out, look at the photo, if he puts on much more weight he'll be one of those tub-o-lard kind of DTs that people on the forums seem to think have no chance of making the team.  Jerry's injury history is long and varied but all affect his legs (his strength).  His injury history follows.  In my opinion Jerry has a limited upside... he's already going to be 25 coming into the league, he can't get much bigger, may be able to get a bit stronger but Hood has shown the ability to get strong quickly, and Jerry is less likely than Hood to develop as quickly with his inferior intelligence.  In terms of intangibles, however, Hood is superior to Jerry by far.


Notes from the Senior Bowl practices - against the best players in the country

1 - TFYDraft.com - Tony Pauline

Peria Jerry DL Mississippi 6015 290 9 3/8 32 1/4
 
Monday Practice Notes: Disruptive for much of the practice.  Displayed a very effective bull rush, and embarrassed Herman Johnson with a swim move in pass rush drills.
Tuesday Practice Notes: Jerry displayed the best first step off the snap among the South’s defensive tackles. He was quick and disruptive at points. Came on as a leader of this motley crew, often overheard talking it up. Even saw a snap or two at defensive end.
Wednesday Practice Notes: During drills, Jerry looked a little slow and sluggish. He did pick it up slightly by using his quickness and making some plays against the run. The Ole Miss product was having troubles holding his ground when doubled, did not fight against pressure well, and needed to clear the blocks once he had the advantage.
Thursday Practice Notes:   Jerry looked solid today.  He's incredibly explosive off the snap and linemen had trouble adjusting to his first step.
Analysis:  Considered a fringe first rounder by some, Jerry’s biggest downfall of the week’s festivities will be only weighing in at 290 pounds. Never considered a big space eating defensive tackle, Perry’s strengths were apparent as a quick penetrator and consistently reestablishing the line of scrimmage. He had his troubles at the point of attack. It was good to see him take an active role as a leader in this odd situation where players are asked to mesh so quickly. Some scouts would have certainly liked to see Jerry come in a little larger and maintain that disruptive play, but his overall performance on the field was as good as expected.


Jerry apparently isn't THAT hard of a worker.  Losing nearly 10 lbs. in a few weeks suggests that he wasn't working very hard training after the regular season ended.  Hood, on the other hand, works hard all the time from what I can tell and busted his tail to improve on his already impressive Combine numbers in every category he participated in at his Pro Day.  Apparently he decided to take one day off a bit, coming out sluggish.  Either way, it's clear that in terms of production and on-the-field performance... Peria Jerry is a hell of a DT and will likely transition well into the NFL.

INJURY HISTORY - Injury at Hargrave Military Academy prep school (Ankle), Missed 4 games as a Freshman due to injury, 6 games as a Sophomore due to injury (Foot), 3 games as a Senior due to injury (Torn Lateral Meniscus Knee Preseason, Hamstring held him out of Combine).


Evander "Ziggy" Hood
6'3", 300 lbs.

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Analysis:


NFL.com, NFLDraftCountdown.com

Strengths:

  • Very good size and bulk - Strong with some power - Seems to enjoy the hand-to-hand combat in the trenches and doesn't back down from contact - Stout at the point of attack - Gets upfield and can collapse the pocket
  • Athletic - Flashes initial burst off the snap - Lateral quickness to make plays behind the line of scrimmage - Excellent speed - Quickness - Recognizes the trap block and can burst through the hole to make the play behind the line of scrimmage - Does a good job in pursuit - Explosive with a burst to close - Sudden off the snap - Pursues well down the line
  • Active with a non-stop motor - Plays with a passionate, physical style
  • Active hands and can disengage from blocks due to his hand play - Showed great toughness in 2006, missing only three games after breaking his foot and having a screw inserted
  • Extremely coachable - Hard worker - Has a lot of  experience - Team leader - Durable - Locates the ball quickly - Nice instincts and awareness - Uses his hands well

Weaknesses:

  • Plays too tall at times - Doesn't always use proper leverage
  • May not be a difference maker - Average production
  • Self-made player - Jack-of-all-trades but master of none
  • Has some minor durability concerns
  • Lacks the elite explosiveness or strength usually associated with highly rated defensive tackles - Only moderate initial quickness - Flashes the lateral quickness to elude and collapse the pocket, but is too inconsistent in that area

My take:

What Peria Jerry has in straight forward, in the trenches power to collapse the pocket, Ziggy has in his ability to fight off of blocks with his hands, split double-teams, lateral movement and a nose for the football.  The problem is most notable in his weaknesses, he's a self-made player... a jack-of-all-trades but a master of none.  Essentially, Ziggy needs some instruction and work on some of his techniques before we can fully develop at DT.  Needing to do work on techniques or to develop can be a real draft stock killer, not all players have it in them to do all that is necessary to develop quickly and completely.  Ziggy is not one of those players.  Ziggy is extremely coachable, a hard worker with non-stop motor and while some of the work might take long hours and be rather painful, his toughness, his willingness to play and to work hard, his unwillingness to be denied, is displayed when he broke his foot in 2006, had a screw placed in it, and took the field again after missing only three weeks.  This guy won't stop until he's the best player he can be.  Count on it.  And you know what, with his frame, his strength and natural athleticism, his speed, hands, and nose for the football... at the end of the day, I think he will be the better football player.  I will support my "upside" claims with a couple of articles and then move on to his performance at the Senior Bowl.

ZIGGY'S COMBINE NUMBERS

  • Ziggy has excellent physical strength - and is a high character individual.


Pat Kirwan - NFL.com

I know there are other defensive tackles getting most of the attention but Hood has lots to offer. Based on his weight-room numbers, running times and on-field ability, it's hard to figure how this guy isn't going to be a productive pro. He told me he does a 730-pound full squat, improved his combine bench from 34 to 36 reps, cleans 380 and 475 max on the bench.

His dad is a drywaller and his mom holds down two jobs, and this kid is as respectful as it gets. I think there will be a team looking for a 300-pound tackle that runs 4.8 and is as strong as Hood.

 

  • Ziggy has a body which has room for growth, can put on weight and still be explosive.


Chris Steuber Interview - Scout.com

 

CS: At 6-foot-3, you have a great frame that could probably take on more weight. But, how comfortable would you feel if you’re asked to bulk up, knowing that you could lose some of your explosiveness?

Hood: I would be fine with it. I think I can [add more weight]. Whoever wants to draft me, I’ll do anything they want me to do. If they want me to play the five technique, I’ll stay at my current weight or lose a couple of pounds. Or, if they want me to play the three technique, I’ll gain five to ten pounds, which won’t affect my motor. I’ll still be able to get up field with that extra size.

Want proof?  Look at his photo, watch the combine video... the guy is almost solid muscle and has a long frame at 6'3".  Peria Jerry, not much shorter, is a A LOT stockier and already seems to be carrying quite a load.

 

 

  • Ziggy is a hard worker that will bust his tail to become a better athlete

 


NFL DRAFT SCOUT RISER: Evander Hood was more impressive at his pro day workout March 5 than he was at the combine. He showed improved marks in the bench press (36 reps with 225 pounds), vertical jump (34.5 inches) and broad jump (9 feet, 8 inches). - Rob Rang, The SportsXchange, NFLDraftScout.com

 



Senior Bowl Practice Reports

1 - National Football Post - Wes Bunting

Outside of the Boston college duo, DT Ziggy Hood was the only other interior D-lineman to have his way inside. Hood displayed an explosive first step with the lateral mobility and body control to consistently make offensive linemen miss. His spin move left guard Trevor Canfield grasping air.

2 - Scout.com - Chris Steuber

Missouri DT Evander Hood adjusted well to the scheme the Bengals have in place and was a standout on Monday. Hood had a tremendous burst off the line and showed a variety of moves inside, which included an insane spin move against California center Alex Mack. The 6-foot-3, 298-pound Hood is a strong penetrating inside force, who had a consistent career at Missouri. He had a strong senior campaign for the Tigers, as he recorded 62 tackles, seven for a loss and five sacks. Although it was only the first day of practice for the players in Mobile, Hood’s performance on Monday was reminiscent of the strong start former Notre Dame DT Trevor Laws (drafted by the Philadelphia Eagles in the second round) showcased last year.

3 - Draft Headquarters - Shawn Zobel

Missouri defensive tackle Ziggy Hood is an outstanding pass rushing defensive tackle. He has great explosiveness and quickness and really uses his hands well at the point of contact.

Ziggy Hood and Alex Magee have both looked very good at defensive tackle. Hood has abused the offensive line in the past two days, showing great use of his hands.

4 - Footballsfuture.com - Roshan Bhagat

The biggest winner on the day was Missouri’s Ziggy Hood who may no longer fly under the radar after this week is done. Facing Ryan Shuman, he brilliantly set up the guard to execute a perfect and lightning-quick spin move. He went to that same spin move twice more with great success and also showed a variety of rips to be victorious on many occasions.

5 - Draftdaddy.com

Elsewhere in the pit, Missouri defensive tackle Ziggy Hood was building on his strong day 1 with an excellent all around performance in day 2. Hood has an impressive arsenal of pass rush moves and often uses more than one per snap. Hood actually has more moves than most of the defensive ends, and the coaches lined him up at end for several reps.

6 - SI.com

Evander Hood/DT/Missouri: Hood could've been an easy guy to miss with all the available talent on the defensive line, yet he made his mark and stood out when the opportunity arose. Hood played with a non-stop motor, working hard until the whistle blew. He was another whose quickness and explosion gave blockers fits. Hood now grades as a solid early second rounder, about 20 spots better than where he stood a week ago.

7 - nfldraftscout.com

In the past month, Hood has jumped into first round consideration. "It started with Senior Bowl, because you're going against some of the best offensive linemen out there," Senior Defensive Lineman Ziggy Hood said. "You're playing alongside one of the best - the first-rounder B.J. Raji - you know he makes you want to get better." Hood improved his stock at the Combine and then again at MU Pro Day. NFL scouts would not go on camera specifically saying what they liked about Hood, but the general consensus is that Hood is aggressive, he's durable and they like his physical style of play. They also like his initial burst off the snap, and his lateral quickness to make plays behind the line of scrimmage. Hood says scouts also pointed out where he needs to improve. "Better footsteps - that's something I have to do," Hood said. "That's for anybody - really polish up my technique. If your technique is poor you're going to get pushed around out there a lot." Hood spent the past month training at C-E-S in Atlanta. - Matt Lothrop

Hood's explosiveness out of his stance, splitting of double teams, closing speed to the quarterback and ball-chasing jumped out. He had five tackles and a sack, but influenced several other plays with his athleticism and motor inside. - Chad Reuter, The SportsXchange, NFL Draft Scout

8 - TFYDraft.com - Tony Pauline

Evander Hood DL Missouri 6031 298 9 7/8 33 1/4
 
Monday Practice Notes: A tough blocking assignment for most offensive lineman throughout the day, Hood is very quick off the snap for an interior defensive lineman. He was able to shoot gaps and disrupt the running attack on multiple occasions.
Tuesday Practice Notes: Excelled in pass rushing drills where Ziggy was able to highlight multiple moves. Continues to show a very good motor, working hard in every drill. Also was rather solid against the run where he read his keys properly and squeezed holes against pressure.
Wednesday Practice Notes: Continues to display nice burst off the snap as well as a nonstop motor. Watching him a little more closely today against the run, the former Tiger was not always as impressive. He had troubles a few times taking on double teams and splitting them. Also he needed to get the hands of offensive linemen off of his jersey on more of a regular basis.
Thursday Practice Notes: Always trying to swipe and claw the hands of opponents off , Hood did have some problems today clearing the initial punch of offensive linemen getting off blocks. He had a nonstop motor in his pass rushes.

Analysis: Ziggy’s week of play was exceptional. His first step is quick enough along the interior to give offensive linemen fits. He is a tenacious defender always working hard to get off of blocks or rushing the passer. His ability to consistently reestablish the line of scrimmage makes him a perfect fit as a future one gap penatrator in certain systems. It would not be a surprise to see Hood eventually garnering some interest as a late first round possibility.



Finally - who might Ziggy Hood compare to that is currently in the NFL out of last year's draft?

Marcus Harrison (Chicago Bears Rd. 3/90)

Harrison started the season backing up Dusty Dvoracek.  Finished the season last year with 28 tackles and 2 sacks.  His production was helped a bit by starting the last four games of the season.  If you consider Dvoracek's stats of 29 tackles on the season leading up to his injury, you could say that Harrison's production suggests he would have finished the season, as a full-time starter, with very strong stats as a rookie.  His stats, as they are, are really impressive.  Obviously the Bears have a lot of weapons on their defense but it it at least worth noting that he plays NT on a team notoriously good against the run, 5th ranked rushing defense last year.  He finished 6th amongst rookie defensive tackles in total tackles (primarily in a back-up role) and 3rd amongst rookie defensive tackles in total sacks.

By comparison, Hood is a more athletic, stronger version of Harrison with much more well-developed pass-rushing skills and none of Harrisons off-the-field and injury issues.  Hood should be able to perform at a higher level than Harrison in a similar defensive system.  There is no reason for me to believe otherwise.

Poll
Assume Peria Jerry and Evander Hood are both available for the Colts 1st Round pick, who would you take?
Peria Jerry
30 votes
Evander "Ziggy" Hood
89 votes

119 votes | Poll has closed

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by Brad Wells on Mar 26, 2009 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Where’s the poll?

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by KingRichard on Mar 26, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Awesome.

The more I read about Ziggy, the more I like him for our 1st pick.

Great job, btw.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Mar 26, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Lots of Awsome Posts

I’ve been using them regularly as a ‘quick’ reference.
great stuff

Defense if more important then breathing.

by BetterD on Mar 26, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

oh i forgot - I want Ziggy -

Defense if more important then breathing.

by BetterD on Mar 26, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll read this in a bit

But I probably would’ve waited until the end of the day to do this. Jerry’s pro day is today.

And just real quick, I’d take Jerry as a NT and draft a UT. I’d take Hood as a UT or NT but more suited to being a UT and figure out what he’s going to be after I see who the BPA is later. I’d take Gilbert as a UT and draft a NT.

I think it’s a win/win/win if we get the corresponding DT later. I’ll read it in a bit.

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Mar 26, 2009 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Poll

I’ve added the poll… I apologize, I didn’t even realize I could do so on these boards thumbs up

by bamock on Mar 26, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Good Post

Very informative. Ziggy just seems like a beast that can scoot. Love it.

by slider09 on Mar 26, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Very nice job

Bamock, I’m sold on the Zig-man. But my concern is about his availability—as I noted on your other post earlier, if Jerry is seen by NFL teams as maxed-out in terms of size, he may not fit their system that needs a 325-375 fattie in the middle. Meaning he could well be there for us.

If Zig-man seems to have a better work ethic AND looks like he’ll be able to tip the scales at 350 someday, he might move up in the 1st round simply because he fits their schemes better. It’s not always about the players, it’s also about the schemes of our team and the other teams. Polian knows how to play this game.

damn.

I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.

by Bobman on Mar 26, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

350???

That would be a heavy dude. Hopefully (if they get him) he stays around 300 lbs so he can bust through the line and let another guy plug the line.

Obviously Ziggy sounds better and will hopefully be a good pro. I just hope that at least one of these guys is available at #27. It would be a great fit for this team’s need on the D-line.

by AceOfSpades on Mar 26, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

350 was a reference to the giant fatties dominating the DT slots

these days. The Williamses in Minn, the huge 3-4 NTs. Maybe 325 is more accurate.

Presumably, if teams are running a 3-4, they will draft a 300 lber assuming he’ll pack on muscle and bulk. Let’s see, from age 22-30 I added about 20 lbs of muscle to my 145 lb frame (all fat now, alas), and I was never skinny, so I’d assume a 300 lber with the right frame could add a bunch as well. His poor heart.

I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.

by Bobman on Apr 3, 2009 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I gotta say

You’ve sold me on Hood. He’s three years younger than Jerry, has more potential upside, and really fits the Colts scheme better. He’s got athleticism and SPEED and unlike most of the DTs this guy is in fantastic shape; no beer gut adding leverage. If his character and work ethic are up to snuff he could be a great pick. The only question mark is, if he’s graded as early second-round, do the Colts draft him at 27 or go for a higher-rated prospect and risk losing him? I suppose that’s for Bill Polian to decide.

by slash196 on Mar 26, 2009 6:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Everyone said Freeney was a reach

the fools. Well, most pundits and draft graders after the fact.

I’m fine taking a guy 10 slots ahead of where the consensus has him slotted, if he is a good guy, smart, and the right guy for the system. Like 93.

I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.

by Bobman on Apr 3, 2009 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know

prior to this post I was slowly starting to slide towards drafting Ziggy. The reason for that was because of Jerry’s intelligence and now that you mentioned it, work ethic. I would rather not have someone is slow to catch the playbook and doesn’t work hard. I think thats been a big problem with alot of our DT’s that we have had problems with.

Your analysis on Ziggy has sold me now. His production may not be as good as Jerry’s but its still fairly decent. Add the upside and already great athletic ability, he can really be a force with the right coaching.

As always Bamock, great stuff and hope to see you on the front page someday soon.

by metal_militia on Mar 26, 2009 6:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I have to disagree with one thing

The claim that he didn’t produce. Five sacks and 7 tackles for loss isn’t production for a DT? Crazy talk.

by slash196 on Mar 26, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jerry works hard

Not sure where you got that incorrect info from. He was a hard worker and a team leader for Ole Miss.

Now stamina might be a slight concern, that he might get winded late on occasion, but I think you’d find many more evaluators attribute that to Jerry playing hard than conditioning. Granted his body doesn’t look as good as Ziggy’s, who looks at all flabby despite carrying 300 lbs., but conditioning is not a major issue with Jerry. In fact stamina isn’t an issue for him with some scouts, I was told, because as they put it they’d rather see a player play hard and exert themselves to the point of getting winded, rather than not giving it their fullest and/or pacing themselves.

Especially when you can rotate another tackle in every so often, like you would along the rest of the DL to keep them fresher. And he played a lot of snaps at Ole Miss.

You can have concerns about Jerry, I do, but I certainly wouldn’t put “(not) working hard” in the Top 5.

by project geo on Mar 27, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correction

that meant to say "… Ziggy’s, who doesn’t look at all flabby … "

by project geo on Mar 27, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sold on Hood.

The upside on him looks too good to pass up.

by tim55 on Mar 27, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Voted for Ziggy

I’m just not sold on Peria Jerry.

by Marik on Mar 27, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Hood is becoming too popular...

I hope he’s still there when #27 is on the clock!!!

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by peytonsthebest on Mar 27, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Doesn't really matter

Although I know who I prefer, the fact that I think there’s 4 legit 1st round DTs now (Raji/Hood/Gilbert/Jerry) is awesome. All three that could be aroudn are pick are great prospects. If someone asked me who would do the best in a game tomorrow, it’d be Jerry. If someone asked me who has the highest ceiling, it’d be Gilbert by a long shot. Hood would be second in both of those categories so that works. Jerry is the safest pick, Hood has to learn a little more in the ways of technique, Gilbert is hard to gauge because his measurements stack up to his production but he played in a lower level of competition. If Hood’s true position is UT and he can’t convert to NT well, I’d choose Gilbert if that’s where we’re going to place Ziggy and we draft NT later.

Basically what I’m saying is that it depends on where we put them on the line and who is available later. Jerry would be the safest pick because I think of the three, would have the easiest time transitioning to NT. His bull rush is sick and that’s what you want your NT to be able to do well in a T2. And I also think right now he’s a better 3 technique. So with Jerry you could go BPA at NT or UT later in the draft. With Hood, you’re really looking to place him at UT, so you limit your options later. I actually think that Gilbert could end up being the best at either position. If he stays 290, you get an insanely explosive, extremely fast 6’5 dude with 37" arms that can take away passing lanes and force you to double team him. If they ask him to convert to NT, I think he could easily put on 15-20 lbs and still have minimal bodyfat. He began college at 225, and he’s the most muscular of the 3 with the biggest frame. He’s also extremely strong already. Not many people with 37" arms can put up 28 reps on the bench. That’s actually more impressive to me than Ziggy’s 35 with 33.75" arms.

So what would be my summary of the 3?

Jerry – May have reached his peak, shortest of the 3, slowest of the 3. Probably can’t get much heavier. But RIGHT now he’s the best D-lineman. Probably the easiest to transition to NT early. 25 years old, but plays like a 2 year starter in the NFL on tape. Could potentially be the one to give the quickest production as a starter over the next two seasons.

Hood – Solidly built, looks like a T2 DT. He loves football. Very strong in both the upper and lower body. Fast for his size and has decent burst. Needs to work on technique. I believe his frame is close to maxed out but he may be able to go to 305-310 and remain quick. I don’t think he can convert easily to a NT position, but it’s possible. He’d have to have a decent 3 technique next to him to not be overwhelmed until he progressed. Might take a little longer to contribute, but his ceiling is probably higher than Jerry’s.

Gilbert – An athletic freak. 37" arms, 288 lbs, 6’5 and a 4.76" 40. He’s about as fast as our LBs. I don’t quite understand how people say he should have better production. Mayock is a completely idiot for saying that. The dude has by far the most production out of a DT in the draft. Maybe he was thinking he was a DE, but they were talking about DTs. I’m sorry, that’s just stupid to say you wanted to see more production from him. Nobody is remotely close to him in production from the DT position. Anyway, I’ve seen his film, I think he’d easily be able to contribute his first season as a UT. I also think that given a year or two to bulk up, he could slide over to NT just fine. He has the frame to be a 4.8 second 310 lb DT. However, he’s the biggest risk. He could end up being the Dwight Freeney of DTs or he could end up sucking. I do believe that unless he’s taken as a 3-4 DE, he should be there at 27. If not, one of the others or a LB will be.

Either way, I feel better now than I did prior to the East West shrine games and the Senior Bowl. I have a feeling we might be taking Mitch King in the 3rd or 4th. I know the Colts have shown interest and he’s labeled with the exact same “No true position, undersized” thing we love. I also heard his interview on Sirius and actually felt bad for him. Nobody’s talking to him and he’s actually a good prospect. I think he could end up being a solid UT or at least add some depth to our line.

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Mar 27, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jerry's the better player, Hood the better prospect

That’s not to say Hood couldn’t be successful with the Colts, because I think playing with Freeney and Mathis would be a perfect situation for him. As does being 2.5 years younger, giving him a much better chance at a second contract with the Colts than Jerry. Who has a lengthier history of leg and foot injuries, mind.

But Jerry is still the better player at this moment. He’s exhibited explosiveness, quickness, and dominance the latter half of this season (as Jerry recovered from late preseason surgery) and the Senior Bowl week that outdistance him over Hood by a fair margin. Again though, I think Hood could be a very good player with the Colts.

And I really do think the Colts will end up with one of the two, upon the completion of the 1st round of this Draft. If I had to guess, Jerry might be ranked ahead, but either one would be great. I would say right now that they end up with Ziggy, as Jerry probably won’t reach their pick. Ziggy Hood is my projected 1st round pick for the Colts.

Granted there isn’t a history of evidence to support a 1st round DT. But the Colts’ 1st round pick has to contribute immediately, and there’s no better position to do that than DT. Not even close. And one might point to Polian signing Corey Simon to a 5-year/$30M contract in ’05 and then trading a 2nd round pick midseason for Booger McFarland as some evidence to him placing value in the DT position, if he feels that player can make a difference. Either of these two players, I think would make a difference.

by project geo on Mar 27, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions  

gotta say ziggy

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by NorthPhillyKid on Mar 29, 2009 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Ziggy Hood = Hakeem Nicks

Maybe I’ve got the wrong idea, but Hood seems to me to be the safer pick among the two, if only because his game isn’t based as much on speed as Jerry’s and he has less of an injury history. But I still think Jerry’s the better talent. He produced more than Hood and can’t be called a workout warrior, a label which may be appropriate for Hood if he makes it into the first round. Also, I don’t like all this talk about Peria Jerry being of inferior intelligence. His football IQ seems well-developed enough to me. He doesn’t need to be able to recite verses from Milton or demonstrate competence in linear algebra to play DT in the NFL, and it’s in academic work of that kind that he seems to have struggled. Like Percy Harvin, he seems to me to be a guy who will either be a perennial Pro Bowler or a nice guy wtih great upside whose career got derailed by injuries. Hood, on the other hand, will come in and be a solid contributor from the first day and remain so for the rest of his career, but he will never be the kind of difference-maker you want in the first round.

by CooperManningsNotTrying on Mar 29, 2009 6:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Interesting thoughts...

I would agree with your analysis that right now Peria Jerry has better talent right now.

As far as intelligence is concerned, it’s difficult to say what significance there will be to Peria Jerry’s classroom difficulties and how they’ll translate to the football field. Maybe little, maybe a noticeable difference.

As for predicting the ceilings for each players, I would argue that you’re selling Ziggy way short. But, if that’s how you feel and you want to stand on that, more power to you. :)

by bamock on Mar 29, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMG

Ok, I was just coming by your site and I came to this post. Amazing job. I would rec it if it was for the Raiders, but hey, very well written.

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by Rayder K on Mar 31, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow...

Looking back on this post I must say that I am a little shocked at the outcome of the poll.

First, I put of this post on another Colts blog’s forums and after thirteen votes the count is – 11 votes for Ziggy to 2 votes for Peria Jerry. The results have been far more lopsided than I would have expected. I think Ziggy is deserving of votes and maybe even deserving of winning in voting overall but that swing was higher than I would have expected.

Second, the outcome here is even more shocking to me because the number of votes is so much higher but the lopsided preference for Ziggy is in the same ballpark. 82 votes have been registered so far. The outcome?

68 votes for Ziggy
21 votes for Peria Jerry

I… just… didn’t… see that coming.

by bamock on Apr 1, 2009 1:40 AM EDT reply actions  

I Think

Peria Jerry’s age is a real issue. A rookie who is at his prime already won’t be as great later on in their career.

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by Rayder K on Apr 1, 2009 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is because

He will be past his prime by the time he learns about the NFL. To be honest, I think the best of Jerry has already been seen. Not enough potential

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by Rayder K on Apr 1, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

That could be correct. The debate is between – draft the guy who is most likely to offer the most immediate upgrade vs. the guy who is probably an immediate upgrade but who has a higher ceiling because he’s still developing. Tough call with Peyton’s 5 yrs. or so remaining at his MVP-level of performance.

by bamock on Apr 1, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I take ziggy hood here. because he is a faster and younger dt than Jerry and seems to fit the colts defensive scheme very well.

by coltsfan106 on Apr 3, 2009 10:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Ziggy Hood

So over all Ziggy deserves to go to the colts.

by coltsfan106 on Apr 3, 2009 10:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Awsome

I want this guy SOOO much!!!

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Apr 3, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

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