With the 4th Pick in the 2009 Stampede Blue Community Mock Draft, Seattle selects...
Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia
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Drafter: burc Reasons for drafting: "Just three seasons removed from their Super Bowl XL appearance, the Seattle Seahawks find themselves drafting in the top five for the first time since 1997. I, like most of the Seahawk faithful at Field Gulls, believe that this Seahawk team is better than its draft position indicates. Stafford was not my first choice before this draft began, mainly because I figured he would have been chosen before the fourth pick. That being said, I think Stafford is great for the Seahawks at number 4. Most of the folks at Field Gulls were confident that their O-line simply had a down, injury prone year, and that the offensive tackle position could be addressed later in the draft. The same could be said for the wide receiving corps. With the addition of T.J. Houshmandzadeh and a deep draft class at WR, this is a position that I think can wait until later rounds. Ideally, Stafford could sit behind Hasselbeck for a season or two and learn the ropes. However, if Hasselbeck has a series of bad games or gets hurt again, I believe Stafford could step in and make an immediate impact. John Morgan, Blog Manager at Field Gulls, made a great statement regarding Stafford: 'Draft pundits insist you build around a franchise quarterback, but successful picks join teams with existing offensive talent. That's not Detroit. It's Seattle.'" |
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Check out Stafford's scouting report at Mocking the Draft. And speaking of MTD, the Seahawks blogger, John Morgan, picked Stafford in our annual writers Mock Draft.
The Browns, and Colts Homer, are now on the clock...
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Seattle doesn’t have any more offensive talent than Detroit. In fact, I’d say Detroit has more offensive talent than Seattle. Calvin Johnson and Kevin Smith are arguably better than T.J. Housh and, well, who exactly is their running back? Julius Jones? Maurice Morris? T.J. Duckett? None of those guys are all the great.
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by KingRichard on Mar 26, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the Seahawks have a better TE and OL though
I'm not racing, I'm just sprintin'
cuz I don't wanna finish
They diminish, I replenish.
-Lil Wayne "Let the Beat Build"
by shake n bake on Mar 26, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont really think seattle will pick Stafford, hell i think mark sanchez will be drafted before him.. or maybe i just think that anyone who picks stafford is making a huge mistake, even when i dont have a real, good reason for that
Hm…i wonder…where’s the poll?
"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha OK" - Tom Brady
by Piojocuau on Mar 26, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Eh..
That was kind of what alot of “experts” said about Peyton. I think there’s a couple reasons why people feel this way about QBs that could go #1 overall. 1) Generally the “sure” QBs have busted and actually torn apart franchises and had them flounder for years (although that’s more of the “We’ll just get a QB and everything will be fine” mentality) 2) People like to see the guys with alot of attention fail; envy is a part of human nature 3) Not many teams are as fortunate as ours to have a Peyton Manning, to think a crap team like Detroit could get their franchise QB and shoot past them if he DOES turn out to be a Peyton Manning pisses them off. Hell, just thinking about it, I’m sure there’s a couple teams that hate on us for that.
I actually think he’ll be a decent QB. Maybe not elite, but a team built properly could win with him. I don’t like the pick though. Not to Seattle. That had more to do with Hasselback having severe back problems and losing 6 WRs than anything. He’s a legit QB and they’re designed to win now. I easily think they could take the NFC West again. I think they would’ve this year minus the injuries.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Mar 26, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First of all, i dont consider myself an “expert”. As i said, i dont really have a good reason, but i have the feeling he wont have a good career. Why? Cant really tell, its just a feeling. I mean, Sanchez is in a similar spot, but again, i dont know why, i think he will be better than him.
If you are expecting me to say a lot of crap about his stats or even those stupid “success” analysis for the future, then you really dont get my point. Its just a feeling, maybe he will be the next joe montana or maybe he will be the next ryan leaf , rex grossman, you name it.
About your points…“a”, definetly not, like i have a year watching football, the sport where EVERYBODY is successful…
Now, envy? You think that feeling is for something like that? What kind of benefit would i have if he fails? NONE WHATSOEVER. In that case, then i would say that mark sanchez wont make it either ad this is certainly not the case.
Now, the third reason of your couple (lol, just kiddin) Nope, i mean obviously everybody would like the titans to have a crappy QB or something, but every year teams will pick a player who could become the decade’s greatest qb
I just want to make clear that those points you mention can apply to some people, but not for me. It may sound stupid, but my opinion is simply based on a feeling but everything can happen
"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha OK" - Tom Brady
by Piojocuau on Mar 26, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well if you expect your opinion to be take seriously it would help if it was based more than just "feelings"
Not saying you have to list facts and other such stuff. But base it on something other than feelings, or even if you made an argument that you “felt” he would be a bust based on things that you have seen watching him play, or something objective to base those feelings on other than, a juvinile argument like, “just because.”
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
I Corinthians 9:24
by Southern Dawg on Mar 26, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah i know. Worst thing is i cant really say anything that would back up my opinion, usch as a valid argument.
I really, and i mean, really say this just on feelings. Why? Probably he remembers me other guys in the game, like alex smith, joey harrington or some guys like that
"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha OK" - Tom Brady
by Piojocuau on Mar 26, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't referring to you
Take some lithium, you just took that way too seriously. I never said that’s how you felt. Sorry? I actually said I didn’t think it was a good pick.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Mar 26, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um, ok
"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha OK" - Tom Brady
by Piojocuau on Mar 26, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think he stinks. i wasn’t impressed AT ALL with his performance last year when he was surrounded by great talent. i would not take him in the first round. period. (no, really. not hyperbole. i do not think he will be a good nfl QB.) i like sanchez, davis, and freeman better as nfl prospects. moreover, if i’m a team that’s in “major” rebuilding mode, (like the lions, the rams, or the raiders,) and i expect to have a high draft pick again next year, i’d rather wait for that QB crop that includes colt mccoy and sam bradford and just fill other needs this year.
i realize that i am in the extreme minority with this one, and am ready to take a beating for this opinion as a result. please use lube…
by saintnixon on Mar 26, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously?
I mean please tell me what it is about Matt Stafford when you watch him that doesn’t impress you? Does nothing in this video impress you at all? Sure i’m a fan of his, but to think that awfully of him just doesn’t make sense to me.
I’m ok with you liking Sanchez better and i think he’s a good quarterback as well, but what about Davis and Freeman makes them better NFL prospects?
I am eager to know your explanation. (and please don’t say just because)
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
I Corinthians 9:24
by Southern Dawg on Mar 27, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a few reasons
i could show you an impressive highlight reel of ANY top-rated prospect. stafford was a fine college qb. i think we can agree that the nfl is a different animal.
1. i do not think he’s particularly accurate passer. this is huge. i don’t care about arm strength nearly as much as accuracy. the nfl trash heap is littered with strong armed but injaccurate passers.
2. he seemed to get flustered at times under pressure.
3. his play struck me as undisciplined. too often i thought he got by on raw athleticism.
4. i think he underachieved considering the all-world talent that surrounded him last year.
5. moreover, something about the guy rubs me the wrong way. i’ve never met him and he could be the nicest guy in the world, but when i see him on tv i want to punch him in the face. i can’t stand him. i recognize this last point is completely irrational. i’d be lying if i said it didn’t color the way i view him…
as for why i like the other prospects better… davis and freeman have all of the physical tools that stafford does, but they did more with less talent. sanchez came from a true “pro-style” offense so i think he’ll be a bit more ready to handle an nfl playbook.
in stafford’s defense, he did play in far-and-away the toughest conference, against the closest thing college football has to nfl caliber defenses.
i HATE this class of QBs, by the way. i am EXTREMELY skeptical of underclassman QBs.
by saintnixon on Mar 28, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you were impressed by the highlight reel....
…..and his athleticism. But apparently not much else.
1. The problem with his accuracy is not that he’s not accurate, he’s shown to be able to fit the ball where he wants it, its mostly that he’s inconsistent, from time to time. As far as arm strength, i understand its not everything and doesn’t mean you’ll be great or terrible, but it does give you the ability to do things, that other QB’s without as strong of an arm can do.
2. He did have a young inexperienced OL. Tom Brady can’t be a good QB when he comes under pressure constantly, Why else are there going to be like 4 OT taken in the first 10 picks of the draft this year?! Plus i think you are just wrong on this, there are plenty of times i’ve seen him come under pressure, and make the right play, or be able to move well enough to buy time and make the play on the run. (Look up his game winning TD pass against UK of this past year)
3. He improved each year throwing the ball. He had 9 INT while the McCoys and Bradfords, had 8. So in his last year as a college QB he improved that mark.
4. Knowshon and maybe Mohamed Massaquoi, A.J. Green was good but still a True Freshman. Plus you want to guess how many different Left OT they had last year on their depth chart? 5!! They had 5 different people start on their LOT spot, and also 2 true freshman starting as Center and Guard. Plus injured TE’s galore who weren’t the best blockers.
5. I can understand it a little bit, cause hey we all have people that rub us the wrong way. But to let that be why you don’t like him as a QB prospect, is not objective.
As far as what you of the other QB’s i only have this to say. Nobody is this class has a stronger arm than stafford, they may be a bit more of a dual threat, but that’s just not Staffords game. Again if you ever watched Stafford play for the university of UGA (And honestly i think this is most of your problem, you didn’t watch him enough to really know what he can do) you would see that they obviously run a Pro-style “play-action” balanced offense. Also just to throw out another small tidbit, Matt would call audibles from the line of scrimmage and will have no problem handling an NFL playbook.
Thanks for the conference compliment. And i wouldn’t call this overall class of QB’s great either, but that doesn’t pull from what he can do. Good discussion.
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
I Corinthians 9:24
by Southern Dawg on Mar 28, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't that high on Stafford
before he fell to me in this draft. After watching some of the tape and talking with the guys at FieldGulls (who sound really amped about this kid), I actually think he could turn into a great NFL quarterback.
I’m interested to hear what other picks you guys think would be better for Seattle than Stafford.
by burc on Mar 27, 2009 7:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The only other thing I could see Seattle taking that they need this earlier is a receiver, DL, OL, or a LB. They have a lot of needs to be honest, but it would be way too early to take a DB or a RB at the 4th pick. If Hasselbeck could just stay healthy and their o-line recoup from last season, I could definitely see them going for Crabtree even though they just signed T.J. Crabtree could work his way into the #1 receiver, T.J. could be used as a veteran stud slot or second option. Then all they would need to do is draft a good RB later in the draft and voila, you’ve got a pretty good offense again.
This line will remain in my signature until the Colts draft Rashad Jennings in 2009.
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by KingRichard on Mar 27, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot to add this...
I think Hasselbeck is one of the most underrated QBs in the league personally. He’s smart, and he knows how to play in that west coast offense. He has great touch on his passes, and I hardly ever see him through a lame duck pass. He just needs some better receivers and a good running game to support him ala 2005.
This line will remain in my signature until the Colts draft Rashad Jennings in 2009.
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by KingRichard on Mar 27, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. Hasselbeck is under-rated.
He’s really, really good.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Mar 27, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seattle has so many needs...
its kind of difficult to choose.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Mar 27, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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