Road to the Draft: Quarterbacks
Well, this is my first blog for Stampede Blue. I've been here for about 15 months, and it feels good to be on the front page of the website I read constantly.
Quarterback isn't regarded as a need for the Colts. However, we just saw where Mark Sanchez worked out for the Colts. It caught all of us by surprise no doubt. Peyton still has at least four or five more great years ahead of him, but we are scouting a first round prospect? This changes the outlook on this draft entirely. It's impossible to get into Polian's mind. Maybe this is a way to confuse other teams about Peyton or else Polian and Irsay are really scared of injury. Either way, it was startling to say the least. Get the prospect analysis after the jump.
When it comes to the NFL draft, I like three sites: DraftTek, Walter Football and SBNation's own Mocking the Draft. Here are their QB rankings.
| Mocking the Draft | Walter Football | DraftTek |
| 1. Matt Stafford, Georgia | Matt Stafford | Matt Stafford |
| 2. Mark Sanchez, USC | Mark Sanchez | Mark Sanchez |
| 3. Josh Freeman, Kansas St. | Josh Freeman | Josh Freeman |
| 4. Nate Davis, Ball St. | Pat White | Nate Davis |
| 5. Tom Brandstater, Fresno St. | Nate Davis | Rhett Bomar |
| 6. Rhett Bomar, Sam Houston St. | Rhett Bomar | Stephen McGee, Texas A&M |
| 7. Drew Willy, Buffalo | Mike Reilly, Central Washington | John Parker Wilson, Alabama |
| 8. Hunter Cantwell, Louisville | Nathan Brown, Central Arkansas | Tom Brandstater |
| 9. Graham Harrell, Texas Tech | Mike Teel, Rutgers | Hunter Cantwell |
| 10. Pat White, West Virginia | Graham Harrell | Graham Harrell |
These prospects can be broken down to four distinct groups.
First rounders (Stafford, Sanchez)
Second to third rounders (Freeman, Davis)
Fourth to sixth rounders (White, Bomar, Harrell)
Wild card as in can go anywhere from round 3 to undrafted (Willy, Reilly, Brown, Teel, Wilson, Brandstater, Cantwell)
The Colts have a distinct need for quarterbacks. They need to be intelligent, be a natural leader and have an accurate arm. Since this is a small need for the Colts, I would put this in the Fifth to Seventh round zone. The Colts will be looking at QB prospects to challenge Sorgi, but will they pass up a good special teams player for someone? It depends on who they think fit the system. After looking at projected rounds and scouting reports. Here are five draft prospects I believe will be looked at by the Colts.
John Parker Wilson, Alabama: Wilson was a natural leader at Alabama. He took a young team to the Sugar Bowl while playing in a very tough SEC. Wilson didn't have great stats, but the balanced attack at Alabama won't produce Texas Tech or Division 1-AA passing stats. He is a project and has poor arm strength. I don't see the Colts taking him in the draft, but if he slides and doesn't get drafted, he would be a nice practice squad player.
Mike Reilly, Central Washington: Reilly is coming from Division II, but at the Combine he drew some attention. He interviewed very well and may have the mental attitude to go along with his amazing stats. Obviously as a Division II player competition level is a concern, but if he falls to the seventh round, he would be worth a look.
Curtis Painter, Purdue: He's a local prospect who collapsed over his senior year. Now he may not be drafted after being a mid-round prospect going into the season. He always had great production and comes from the same system that Drew Brees and Kyle Orton came out of. His lack of game management skills are a concern however. If he doesn't get drafted, he could compete for a practice squad spot.
Cullen Harper, Clemson: Harper had a pretty pathetic senior season for a pathetic Clemson team. Even after poor production as a senior, he is a great pro prospect for the later rounds. He has good accuracy on short routes, suitable arm strength and is mobile, although he doesn't run a 4.6 forty like Jim Sorgi. I wouldn't be disappointed with him as a seventh round prospect.
Chase Daniel, Missouri: At his size, Daniel isn't gonna be drafted. However, he had amazing production in a good conference while having good accuracy. He is just at 6 feet, but if he can see over the line, he could be great. In fact, I think he could be the top undrafted quarterback as long as no team thinks he is worth a selection. Jim Sorgi could be in trouble with Daniel. He is one of the biggest sleepers in the draft.
So to sum it all up, the Colts will not spend a high draft pick on a quarterback. Mark Sanchez will not be a Colt. However, Sorgi may need a little competition in training camp to push himself, and our practice squad QBs Adam Tafralis and Josh Betts have moved north to the CFL. This means that the practice squad may need a reloading. Quarterback will be an interesting position to monitor this offseason. The Colts haven't spent a draft pick on a quarterback since Jim Sorgi, so maybe this is the year we have a backup QB without a 4.6 forty.
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Ha it worked
I was hoping that I could get the jump thing right. This was a pretty nice way to blog. I liked it.
"I saw a commercial on late night TV, it said,'Forget everything you know about slipcovers.' So I did. And it was a load off my mind. Then the commercial tried to sell me slipcovers, and I didn't know what the hell they were."
-Mitch Hedberg
Nate Davis..........
Polian took the time out to look at this guy at Ball State. I’m not saying they are going to draft him but he is up there on a shallow QB year.
Nate Davis = beast, God I hope he doesn't go to Detriot.......
Maybe people didn't see this the last time I posted this about Davis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivgcGCMt4Rs
Nate Davis = beast, God I hope he doesn't go to Detriot.......
by colts9318rock on Mar 9, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll see your Nate Davis
And raise you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0YPDFmcp5Y
Sorry, I just dig the guy. And I think given a chance, could be great. Best looking player at the QB position in this draft. Poor guy will probably be the 5th or 6th QB taken. If anybody even takes a chance or lets him play QB.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
Yeah he is great!
but they both are not what the Colts realy look for. Just a dream. I think they would be a total shift on what the Colts see as a QB. Unless they can learn to stay in the pocket. Moble QB’s tend not to last long in the NFL. How are White’s pocket skills?
Nate Davis = beast, God I hope he doesn't go to Detriot.......
by colts9318rock on Mar 9, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Replying to both you dudes
It’s a little hard to say about his pocket awareness. From the film I’ve seen, he goes through progression unless it’s a designed run. He always seems poised though, and when he runs, he sees a lane and doesn’t think twice. And he’s extremely quick in his decision making. But on most of his runs, you can see him do read 1, read 2, read 3 (generally looking for the lane) and goes. He has an extremely fast release, and an extremely underrated arm. The fade in the Senior Bowl he threw wasn’t the first time he’s thrown that ball. And that was about as textbook as you could get.
As for the QB first, runner second, well I think he’s adamantly stated what position he wants to play. He refuses to work out at any other position even though he knows it would likely improve his draft position. He WANTS to be a QB. He didn’t even look very enthused running the 40 and didn’t look like he even trained for it. His rushing numbers at WVU was more of the system and taking advantage of the fact that he’s a phenomenal runner. Not to mention he’s left handed, which can actually be an underestimated trait. The defense isn’t accustomed to it and the plays go the opposite direction they’re used to.
If developed properly on a team with a decent line, he could be great. Or he could lose his confidence and be forced to scramble behind a poor line, be told by the coach he needs to run more or have his running coached out of him. Someone can either make him or break him mentally if handled improperly.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
Sounds like a project
Nate Davis = beast, God I hope he doesn't go to Detriot.......
by colts9318rock on Mar 10, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually would like to give this kid a try
His measurables seem to match up with the game tape and he had a great senior bowl. The only thing I hope we can coach out of this guy, is to try and not be a Vince Young or Michael Vick. Basically I hope he doesn’t try to over rely on his athleticism to make plays. In the NFL, you must be a QB first and a Runner second.
If we do pick him up though, think we will run any wildcat?
by metal_militia on Mar 9, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Your post is stupid
Your team is stupid.
Your QB is stupid.
Your readers are stupid.
Your town is stupid.
Just thought I’d stop by and welcome you properly :)
JUST KIDDING!!!!! The Colts are the classiest organization and it is always fun to play you guys during the season.
Good luck with the new assignment.
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Gee
a simple, “everything Colts is stupid” would have done. Didnt have to go one by one you know?
lol
by metal_militia on Mar 9, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I know Jacksonville fans what do you expect?............JUST KIDDING
BTW I think I found the new theme for this site………….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV7Z28ifYDM&feature=recommended
Nate Davis = beast, God I hope he doesn't go to Detriot.......
by colts9318rock on Mar 9, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
What fun would it be if I wrote
“all of us here in Jacksonville welcome you and wish you the best”.
actually, that does sound classier.
Stop by our site sometime and comment.
- Terry
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comment on.............
you start a anti-Colts rant. Then we will be there……………..its a promise
Nate Davis = beast, God I hope he doesn't go to Detriot.......
by colts9318rock on Mar 9, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey whats this "John Teerlinck" rant you guys are discussing over there. Thems fightin words
Nate Davis = beast, God I hope he doesn't go to Detriot.......
by colts9318rock on Mar 9, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Satans personal assistant
John Teerlinck is the anti-Dungy
Big Cat Country!:: The Official Home of the Unofficial Blog of the Jacksonville Jaguars!
Hes changed guy, dont believe everything it says on wikipedia
He coaches with passion not hate. Maybe passion over takes him sometimes…………….
Nate Davis = beast, God I hope he doesn't go to Detriot.......
by colts9318rock on Mar 9, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
due diligence
I read this somewhere else and now can’t remember where, but the idea is that Polian is simply doing due diligence in case an Aaron Rodgers-like fall happens on draft day. If he’s making a decision between Hakeem Nicks and Mark Sanchez, he’d want to have all the information available before he dismisses Sanchez out of hand.
I think it’s only possible to take a QB if that could QB could beat out Sorgi in camp this year. Anyone after the second round isn’t likely to have the talent to be considered a better option than the guy who’s been in the system for a few years. A first-rounder, however, could represent an upgrade in the near-term rather than a long-term project, which we already have in Sorgi.
That said, Sanchez likely won’t fall past the 49ers, much less the Bucs. Should it happen, Polian’s done the homework and knows if he’s choosing between quarterback security for the next decade and the answer at receiver, or if Sanchez’s fall is appropriate.
by CooperManningsNotTrying on Mar 10, 2009 12:22 AM EDT reply actions
Nate Davis
From the coverage that I’ve seen, Nate Davis is not regarded as a 2nd-3rd round prospect at all. His huge dropoff by the end of the year and a rough combine really hurt him, according to McShay and Kiper (take it as you will).
His unorthodox style of throwing the ball (doesn’t use the laces) isn’t going to help either. The first time he has to play in the rain he’s going to be worse than Sexy Rexy.
This line will remain in my signature until the Colts draft Rashad Jennings in 2009.
Oh and I write words and stuff for Stampede Blue.
His pros outweigh his cons
He’s a good leader, he’s accurate and he can run. Throwing without the laces is his biggest problem. He gets strip sacked far too often. I watch BSU games, and he can take over. His postseason games were ugly, but his O-line gave up. I can see someone like San Fran taking him in the third round.
"I saw a commercial on late night TV, it said,'Forget everything you know about slipcovers.' So I did. And it was a load off my mind. Then the commercial tried to sell me slipcovers, and I didn't know what the hell they were."
-Mitch Hedberg
San Fran
has to many QBs/problems……….
Nate Davis = beast, God I hope he doesn't go to Detriot.......
by colts9318rock on Mar 10, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions

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