Colts Draft-As I See It

This is directed at both AussieColtsFan and Cassieper:

I want you to justify how Davis, a good college player who also has a learning disability (this is where a little knowledge on the college prospects comes in handy Cassieper), would “easily” be an “immediate” upgrade over a guy who has years in the Colts system.

Also, your logic on 6th round picks is horrible. Every pick in the draft is valuable. Polian didn’t get where he is today by throwing draft picks down the drain just ‘cause. Hell, our pro-bowl, future hall of famer, starting center was an undrafted free agent, and you are going to sit there and say, "oh well, it’s only a 6th round pick, who cares!" Sheesh.

Not sure about immediate… Sorgi has at least had a few years to learn the system, study behind the best, and even get real playing time.

I agree it might not be an immediate upgrade. I don’t really care for Sorgi, but Davis hasn’t proved anything to me either.

Also, just because Peyton is a great QB doesn’t mean he will be a great teacher at the position. From what I have heard, Brett Favre barely spoke to Aaron Rodgers let alone teach him the game and how to succeed.

But I understand where you are going with it. I would actually rather have Graham Harrell than Davis if they were both available and the Colts were looking for a QB to challenge Sorgi as backup. Harrell doesn’t have great size, but he has pocket poise and experience with pressure in big game situations.

I still think we are about 1-2 years away from even thinking about the QB of the future.

I have come to believe that whole-heartedly this week. I see Robiskie as our first pick for some reason. I find it odd to get on this site and see so many people saying the same thing. I guess we’ll see.

That it’s not. And I also think it’s ridiculous that people think that Robiskie is better value than Jerry at 27. Moreno yes.

This is just in general, but Polian will not reach. Period. Inglesias has just as much potential as Robiskie and produced much more in college. I’m not saying that they don’t like him, but I am saying that 535 yards and 8 TDs will definitely factor in. That’s not first round production, sorry.

Is it obvious that Robiskie is round 1 talent? I don’t think so.
“"In the first round, it’s obvious what a player is," Polian said”

"The so-called ‘fallers’ didn’t have that outstanding ability or had one major flaw," Polian said."

“Measurables are important in the system. So is data.

What isn’t important, Polian said, are "feelings" and "unsupported" opinions, which leads to one of the words Polian doesn’t want to hear:

Gut – as in, a "gut feel" on a player.

"’Gut’ should never come into play in evaluation," Polian said recently."

“"I don’t want to hear, ‘I like this guy,’ Polian said. "I want to hear why you like him and why he is going to make us a better football team, why he can be a good player in the NFL.”

“"It’s designed to create an orderly flow of information so that gut never gets into it," Polian said. "It’s designed to keep gut out and make an objective decision. ‘I like this guy’ is never a reason to draft a player."

“Polian, entering his 12th season as the Colts’ President, said recently with the major pre-draft evaluation period known as on-campus Pro Days basically having ended in late March and early April, the rest of April’s early weeks bring about a critical part of the draft-preparation process:

Setting the draft board.

And while Polian says a lot of the work toward that has been done through the course of the past year, he said the work done now is also key.

"The board already exists based on grades that (Colts) scouts developed in December," Polian said recently as he prepared for the 2009 NFL Draft, which will be held April 25-26 at Radio City Music Hall in New York City."

“"I put more value on what they do in shoulder pads and helmets in four years," Polian said.

Asked if he attends Pro Days, he said, "I do not."

"Pro Days are about numbers, and we can gather the numbers," he said. "I would never grade a player based on how he performed on his Pro Day. I’m not good enough to do that.""

So go back and look to see where Robiskie was ranked at the end of the season. That’s probably way more accurate than spending 4 months over analyzing a WR that was ranked around the 8th-15th WR at the end of the season. He may move up a bit, but a jump from that to a first rounder pretty much would have to be insane measurables. Which he didn’t have.

I’d put him more with Moore than the 3 I listed.

Not much on him, but his attitude is definitely Coltish. He reminds me quite a bit of MJD. He had 44 receptions, not a ton of yards, but at least it shows he can catch. 4.34 at the combine is definitely impressive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uExLaKck2OI

And who else isn’t kicking themselves that we missed on MJD by 2 picks? I know Polian said he is.

in the end it comes down to if you think a great runner who hasn’t proven he can contribute in the passing game is worth an early pick to Indy.

I say no.

Oh I knew what you meant, I just pointing out the fact that it wouldn’t happen regardless. Saying “I wouldn’t draft him until the 3rd” is moot. He won’t be there in the 3rd, and last I checked it’s impossible to draft someone who isn’t there.

Or is it?

Until Saturday. After the whole accusation debacle, I don’t care what anyone’s “sources” are saying anymore. What I do know is that we would have heard of character concerns earlier than a month prior to the draft (which is about the time anyone heard about them) considering he came out of one of the most covered teams next to USC in the country. I know that he played when he didn’t have to while he was injured. I know that he went to school a mile from where I work and his only problems came from on the field heat of the moment incidents, which we didn’t see at Florida.

I also know that I honestly don’t consider smoking a j as a crime against humanity. He shouldn’t have done it, it wasn’t smart if it’s true, but I could think of about 50 players right now far far worse. I think it’s pretty funny that he literally could’ve been arrested and been considered less of a risk. More than a couple 1st round projected players have been arrested in the past. But watch out for that dude in the corner eating Funyons. He’s a menace.

I’m pretty confident that he’ll be the third or fourth receiver taken. It’s not like this situation has never happened before. Randy Moss “plummeted” to 21st. Warren Sapp fell to being the first DT taken and 12th overall.

And if anyone thinks that at least 25% of the players in the NFL don’t get high on a regular basis are naive. I’d say the number is significantly higher than that. I also think that somehow the NBA has 110% of their players smoking the dope. Maybe the cheerleaders and coaches?

Even if he DID do it, talent in the NFL is talent. He’ll be picked up.