At first glance: This was a VERY good draft
by MasterRWayne on Apr 26, 2009 8:59 PM EDT
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It has often been said that you have to wait 2-3 years to judge a teams draft class and I think that is fair. Sometimes guys struggle early or maybe they spend a year or two on the bench before they see significant playing time. We therefore, don't know how good this draft was but we do know a few things thus far.
The Colts really want to get bigger and stronger on defense. We already know this by the fact that they wanted bigger and stronger LB's. That's why the let guys like Kreddie K go, but the additions of Moala and Taylor firmly demonstrate this desire to get bigger and stronger. The type of defense the Colts have run for awhile works when our offense scores early and often thus forcing teams into throwing against our edge rushers and zone coverages. The problem was when teams kept the game close by playing the Jeff Fisher style "run, run, run" game against us. The Colts answer to this is to get bigger and run a different front 4 against people that try and do that. If teams play that style then they are doing to see this...
- LDE-Moala
- DT- Terrance Taylor
- DT-Antonio Johnson
- RDE-Raheem Brock
Now try running against that front 4! Then when we get them into passing situations we put Freeney and Mathis in there. What this does is gives us more flexibility against teams that want to run different offensive styles against us to negate our speed and keep our offense off the field.
Also, the additions of Donald Brown and Austin Collie help our offense out. Brown is a quick, straight ahead runner. A very "north-south" style. You won't see him dancing in the backfield. The fact that he fell to the Colts was a miracle. Now I know there is talk about Brown being a 1B or whatever else people say, but the bottom line is the best man will get the most carries. If Addai is healthy and starts running well again then that's great because we now have two really good RB's. That will keep both Brown and Addai healthier and fresher. However, if Addai struggles and Brown does well then Brown will see more carries particularly later into the year. The Colts won't run things like John Fox did in Carolina were he made DeAngelo Williams sit the bench in place of DeShaun Foster because Foster was "the veteran." That's a stupid and ineffective way to run things. If you play well then you get carries and if you struggle you get less carries. Personally I think this might end up looking like Rhodes/Addai in 2006. Either way it's a win-win situation for the Colts. Drafting a guy like Brown just really helps the entire offense.
As for Collie I feel that we got good value when we drafted him. This is a guy that will help out in the slot and can be coached up as you often have to do with all college WR's. Collie also gives depth at the WR position, but hey (similiar to Addai/Brown) if Roy Hall is better in training camp (and stays healthy!) then maybe he will get more playing time while Collie learns and studies for a year. Either way it works out well for the Colts.
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not to mention our new kicker/punter
and a crappy college QB that might just not be crappy enough to beat out Jim Sorgi. How Jim Sorgi is still on the Colts roster is nothing short of a miricle……………..
OH NO WE SUCK AGAIN!
by colts9318rock on Apr 26, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
After some time to think it over
I like this year’s crop more than I thought I would. I still would like to see the Colts pony up higher pick for a LB, but I will trust they know what they’re doing. Afterall, they’re the ones being paid for this. There’s always next year.
by 18forPrez on Apr 26, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Polian said
the linebacking group wasn’t that deep. I’m sure we’ll get it done next year somewhere in the first three rounds.
by hoosierdore on Apr 26, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and he is right
there was no LB that really jumped out at me.
Personally I felt that this draft class, as a whole, was very week.
by metal_militia on Apr 26, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last year
was so much more exciting.
by metal_militia on Apr 26, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The new DT rotation
is going to be a great improvement over last year. I can’t wait for camp and preseason to get some good looks at all these guys together
by AceOfSpades on Apr 26, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm very pleased with the draft
Love the DT picks and RB pick early. Glad they didn’t go WR early. I was thinking they would go with an OT or LB at some point, but they have been shoring those positions up more with FA’s so I guess it’s not too big of a surprise. Wonder how good this CB is going to be..
I write words and stuff for Stampede Blue.
by KingRichard on Apr 26, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Happy with the draft.
No OT or LB, figured they’d go there, but I guess they have been fixing those positions through FA. Can’t wait to see how this all pans out come season time!
by yellowsnow on Apr 26, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Collie pick
I like more and more. I watched like a 10 minute video of him on youtube. I know it is just his highlights, but I love how he catches the ball, his awareness of where is feet are, and that he already does the classic Colts move of not taking big hits. I hope he has enough speed to separate from DBs. If so, Peyton will have a very reliabe target. Maybe he won’t break for anything huge, but Peyton could trust him on 3rd and long. GO HORSE!
by hoosierdore on Apr 26, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Very Stoked
I like this draft….Brown is Colt’s material through and through…Just read his bio…he reminds me of Gonzo…Total achiever…..Furthermore, I think he will push Joe-Joe to get back to form. I’ve said some negative stuff about Joe, but i truly want him to succeed. Either way, this is the last year for him (unless he shapes up) ….We will run over folks this year, if this gambit pays off. I’m betting it will…….This also makes me think that Mike Hart may be finished though. Two bad…Two back ATTACK!
Hopefully we will get some dudes on the roster to step up @ LB…Hagler can you see me? Do you feel me near you? What will our new defense be like? Who knows? Anyway GO COLTS!!!!!!!
by peterbones on Apr 26, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like the Brown pick, too
for character reasons – the guy is well-spoken, seems genuine, and is already active in his community (and plans to be active in Indy). Collie is also a nice character pick. I haven’t had the chance to read up on the others, but suspect they don’t come with off-the-field questions.
by LovinBlue on Apr 26, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Collie went to BYU...
Do you expect him to be “drinking and drugging” there?! LOL
by MasterRWayne on Apr 26, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly!
A big part of this is to “push” Addai to do better. If Joe does then great if he doesn’t well at least we have a backup plan now.
by MasterRWayne on Apr 26, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t fear Indianapolis and who they took. Donald Brown is a good back and I guess Fili Moala is an ok defensive tackle, but I don’t think they have much in either. Peyton is in decline and really needs throwing targets. I applaud Bill Polian for staying away from the receivers, but this doesn’t seem like a strong draft to me.
I love that mentality. we certainly dont fear your players or who you got or who the pats fleeced you to get either. monroe is a great pick but after that….you have so many holes. the colts. I know alot of teams would have loved to get brown and I think peyton is laughing hysterically at you not fearing him or getting the top rb. as for that one little pick in the second round…
if I finished 5-12 I wouldnt be making, I dont fear comments to the other teams you finished below. thats why you got there in the first place. I think Id be just a little bit more humble in trying to get back on top. remember thats what got you there in the first place. thinking you were all that when you werent
by kinnickcolt on Apr 27, 2009 5:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Where did you get that quote from?
I write words and stuff for Stampede Blue.
by KingRichard on Apr 27, 2009 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big Cat Country, I think
I wouldn’t expect them to know much about football anyway. Didn’t they also think Jerry Porter would be a great WR?
by hoosierdore on Apr 27, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and that Drayton Florince would shut down our 3 WR sets
I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter
by shake n bake on Apr 27, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ps…um petyon is on the decline and needs targets?? are their writers on drugs too?
by kinnickcolt on Apr 27, 2009 5:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Collie
I like this pick, this guy is totally underated. I spent the last year watching BYU closely because my son played HS ball with Dennis Pita, who will be a top two TE when he comes out. Granted, Collie played in an inferior conference, for a program that throws a hell of a lot. But mark my words, this kid is the real deal. The first time I saw him, I thought “This guy reminds me of Brandon Stokely”. He is diciplined in his routes, and has flypaper hands, in traffic. If he can touch it, he catches it. And you’ll find that he is a Colt’s type player from an off the field standpoint as well.
by tim55 on Apr 27, 2009 10:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
New DT Rotation
1st and 2nd Down:
DTs: Taylor, Moala, Johnson (3 man rotation) with a sprinkle of Muir
DEs: Brock, Freeney or Dawson (rotating)
3rd Down and obvious pass situations:
DTs: Moala, Brock and Foster (all rotating depending on how much Moala got with the first 2 downs)
DEs: Freeney and Mathis with Howard as backup
Goal Line:
DTs: Taylor and Johnson
DEs: Moala and Brock or Dawson
The D is going to look A LOT different next year than in years past as far as size and strength goes…..props to Caldwell, Coyer and Polian for making it happen.
I would like to see Chad Ocho Cinco traded to a team that already has a #85 on the roster. Then, I would like to see #85 refuse to give up his jersey number to Chad Ocho Cinco. That would make my day....
by AceOfSpades on Apr 27, 2009 10:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Freeney
Won’t come out of the game. He’s one of the most underrated run defenders in the NFL. Possibly on goal line jumbo sets, but other than that he’ll be on the field regardless of down.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Apr 27, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
but he doesn’t play ALL the snaps. Thomas used to spell him at times even though I didn’t like to see it.
I would like to see Chad Ocho Cinco traded to a team that already has a #85 on the roster. Then, I would like to see #85 refuse to give up his jersey number to Chad Ocho Cinco. That would make my day....
by AceOfSpades on Apr 27, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s interesting reading the comments here compared to the analysis more general football sites have done, which tend to conclude that our draft was middling, but not great.
I will say one thing – every draft looks great on draft day, unless you’re the Raiders or the Bengals. I’ll wait and see who out of these guys actually makes it into a good player before judging – there’s no point have 15 offensive linemen if 12 of them are crap; same with defensive tackles.
The proof of the pudding is, as they say, in the eating.
by eltharion_doa on Apr 30, 2009 12:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yum.
Now a proud annoyance on Stampede Blue, 18to88, Indy Football Report, and Phil B's blog.
Man, I need a life...
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Every time the Colts have played the KC Chiefs in the playoffs, they have gone on to at least the AFC Championship game.
by Cassieper on Apr 30, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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