Freddy Keiaho will re-sign with Colts soon

Tip to MARVININDY. Looks like Freddy K-O is coming back.

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I have absolutely no clue who will be our starters. I’d actually have a hard time seeing it as much different than last year. The only likely scenario is Hagler beats out Keiaho, and I’m not to sure about that happening.

So the competition right now is :

WILL – Keiaho, Hagler, (Session), Okwo, Humber, Alexander, Senn
MIKE – Brackett, Seward
SAM – (Session), Wheeler, *Foote

The Foote comment is put in there due to

“Colts | Interested in acquiring Foote
Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:30:32 -0700

Tom Kowalski, of MLive.com, reports the Indianapolis Colts are believed to be interested in acquiring Pittsburgh Steelers LB Larry Foote. "

I would’ve rather have drafted one to clear this craziness up. Looks like the competition for WILL is going to be craaaazy. Although, I really do like that the Colts may get Foote. I’d like to see them go after Leroy Hill (Seahawks) too.

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Apr 28, 2009 6:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Foote has indicated that Detroit is #1 for him

Not sure how realistic it is for us to get him

by LovinBlue on Apr 28, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I saw

The option of actually being on a well run team that might actually do something that’s closer than Pittsburgh might be something he takes into consideration.

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Apr 28, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't see Freddie K as a starter this year

more of a backup / special teams guy now. Caldwell is trying to put his stamp on this team and moving in a different direction.

I would like to see how this lineup would perform….
WILL – Session
MIKE – Brackett
SAM – Seward or Hagler

I would like to see Chad Ocho Cinco traded to a team that already has a #85 on the roster. Then, I would like to see #85 refuse to give up his jersey number to Chad Ocho Cinco. That would make my day....

by AceOfSpades on Apr 28, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hard to say that they are going in a different direction

when they are re-signing the same guys.

Also Wheeler?

I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter

by shake n bake on Apr 28, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

true

signing a guy like Foote would be a true statement that they are making some changes on D. Not necessarily as a sign that they are thinking about a future 3-4, but a commitment to having a solid run D and having a more physical presence.

by AceOfSpades on Apr 28, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Foote would be a change

If that turns out to have some legs then I’ll be changing by tune on the direction of the LBs.

by shake n bake on Apr 28, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Apr 28, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And here it is

“Cardinals | James released
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Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:17:54 -0700

John Clayton, of ESPN, reports the Arizona Cardinals have released RB Edgerrin James, according to a source. "

Might’ve actually signed him if we didn’t get Brown.

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Apr 28, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

sigh

by LovinBlue on Apr 28, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll take the rookie with huge upside

Over the over-the-hill veteran no matter how much I love Edge.

"I saw a commercial on late night TV, it said,'Forget everything you know about slipcovers.' So I did. And it was a load off my mind. Then the commercial tried to sell me slipcovers, and I didn't know what the hell they were."
-Mitch Hedberg

by Colts Homer on Apr 28, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

true true

by AceOfSpades on Apr 28, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Edge is still Great Wall of China-esque at blocking though

by Stadtfeld on Apr 28, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wheeler

I like this signing, but only if its to bring back Keiaho as depth. Wheeler is too talented to keep on the bench.

by Aerostar193 on Apr 28, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

but if he still can't cover...

by shake n bake on Apr 28, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

who?

Kieaho can’t cover….he should be a ST guy and a backup

by AceOfSpades on Apr 28, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Keiaho could cover his first year

then he regressed.

by shake n bake on Apr 28, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

agree

i don’t understand why they would re-sign him

by AceOfSpades on Apr 28, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't see the fascination with Keiaho

At best his performance the past two seasons has stayed at a level plane, not improved like we would all like to see. In 06, I loved his goal line presence and ability to make solid tackles, but over time, as he has been given more and more playing time, his weaknesses are becoming more and more evident. He often over pursues and is average in coverage.

They could get those qualities in a UFA for less money.

by AceOfSpades on Apr 28, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

well I assume he's coming in at the Vet Minimum

like Hagler and Seward. So pretty cheap.

by shake n bake on Apr 28, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He was the second best LB on the team

I understand Session looked good at times, but that was a small snapshot and he may not have performed as well at WILL. He didn’t have to cover as much at SAM. They had to move Keiaho to MIKE because everyone else sucked.

I understand he might’ve sucked, but that doesn’t change that he was still the second best LB on the team. And considering we know pretty much zilch about everyone set to compete, I’d still say it’s Keiaho’s job to lose right now.

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Apr 28, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd say before Session figured it out around midseason

Keiaho was the second best.

Then the lightbulb went off and Session was #2

by shake n bake on Apr 28, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And that's what we thought about Keiaho

Until his jacked up his elbow. Not to mention that was Session at a position that isn’t as complicated as WILL. Just because someone can play RT doesn’t mean they can play LT. That mistake has been made several times before.

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Apr 29, 2009 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Okay

but you can arguably say that Cato June was the 2nd best LB on the team too a couple years ago and they figured out that he could be improved upon. I think KO is alright, but not starting material.

by AceOfSpades on Apr 29, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If he’s starting material for our team then he’s starting material. Period. Who on the team would you rather replace him? The fact that players are either in the “awesome” category or the “chump” category is really getting old. I may not think Keiaho’s the best LB out there, but if he’s the one of the bests LB on our team he’s a starter regardless of what anyone’s assessment of his ability is.

The fickleness is really starting to get on my nerves. “Addai is awesome! Addai sucks! Keiaho’s awesome! Keiaho sucks!”

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Apr 29, 2009 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

At the risk of getting flamed..............

I never agreed with all the bad mouthing of Keiho. He is one of my favorites. Hold on, let me tell you why. First my oldest son played against him in High School. Second, don’t tell me that when a guy local to you winds up on your favorite team that he isn’t instantly one of your favorites. Next, the dude did everything ever asked of him including playing all three linebacker position and did a good job doing it. I find Keiho to be a sideline to sideline guy who never quits. Until he was cut loose, I thought he had Pro Bowl potential. OK, now come and get me.

by tim55 on Apr 28, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I don’t hate the guy, I just think he is better suited as a backup and ST player, not a starter. If signed at vet minimum, it would be good value. I just think they can upgrade over his skills when it comes to a starting LB

by AceOfSpades on Apr 29, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

With who?

And why do you think that anyone on the roster right now is an upgrade?

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Apr 29, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Session

is better suited for WILL than Kieaho. Session has better coverage abilities and is improving week after week. Kieaho could be the backup WILL but hasn’t shown to me that he should be the starter. My most recent impression of him was how horrible he looked in the SD loss.

WILL – Session
MIKE – Brackett
SAM – Hagler, Wheeler or Seward

IMO Keiaho is a backup to Session and a ST guy. An insurance policy.

by AceOfSpades on Apr 29, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with Ace. Keiaho would just be a waste of a roster spot.

I write words and stuff for Stampede Blue.

by KingRichard on Apr 29, 2009 8:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

um, then I guess you don't agree with ace

If signed at vet minimum, it would be good value. I just think they can upgrade over his skills when it comes to a starting LB

by shake n bake on Apr 29, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Remember

If you’re not a pro bowler you suck and should be cut from the team. Because we only have pro bowlers on the Colts.

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Apr 29, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eh

not what I was saying. He shouldn’t be a starter because they have better guys on the team already than he is. He should be a backup and a ST guy. Vet minimum is fine, but I don’t think they should overpay for a backup.

1. He WAS cut and as of now hasn’t been re-signed. If they wanted him to be the starter they wouldn’t have cut him in the first place
2. I think they are considering re-signing him because they didn’t find any jackpot LBs in the draft so they wanted to bring back someone with experience in the system.

In your defense, if they do re-sign him it doesn’t guarantee that he will actually be on the 53 man roster. The could still release him again.

by AceOfSpades on Apr 29, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he wasn't cut

he hit the playing time incentives needed to void the last year of his rookie contract. They didn’t offer him an RFA tender. It’s not a ringing endorsement of him, but it’s not being cut.

by shake n bake on Apr 29, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It can be interpreted a few different ways

Technically he wasn’t “cut” but, to me, it says “Looking at your contract, we have the ability to release you now with little skin off our back….so we’re gonna go ahead and do that.”

by AceOfSpades on Apr 29, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They didn't release him

That’s where you’re not following. It wasn’t up to the COLTS to keep Keiaho, it was up to Keiaho if he wanted to play for the Colts or not. They could’ve offered him 2 mil/yr instead of putting a tender on him because they wanted to lock him up in a lower salary than he would get if he signed a tender and made the pro bowl this season. None of us have any clue how the Colts feel about the situation. At the time they would’ve had to tender him, we were literally fast approaching the eleventh hour and almost didn’t sign Saturday. We didn’t have any money for a pro bowler who’d been there his entire career that everyone loved.

And now we have more room under the cap, so we may offer him what he’s either looking for, or he found out that there’s not much interest in an undersized Colt LB that generally fail out of T2 systems. But we don’t know.

Like I said, the Colts don’t have any control over Keiaho right now. The fact that Keiaho wasn’t seen going to Indy tells you that he was exploring all his options.

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Apr 29, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

alright

i was a little confused about the situation i will admit.

but i’m gonna stick with my guns and predict he will not be a starter in week 1.

by AceOfSpades on Apr 29, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Completely understand

And agree. If Keiaho is the starter, that’d be a sign that he started to show the potential he flashed in his rookie year. I actually have a feeling our LBs may be Okwo (WILL), Bracket, and Session.

Pretty much, with all the LBs (and the majority are battling for the WILL position), I think it’s safe to say that if Keiaho’s starting he’s reverted to the form that people liked or if someone else is starting, it’s probably an upgrade.

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Apr 29, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

okay

semantics….

by AceOfSpades on Apr 29, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It's not semantics

There’s a HUGE difference between being cut and reaching the incentives in your contract that were placed in there if you perform well enough to get something that’s intended to be beneficial for you. The reason why other teams don’t want to touch Keiaho are because there are only a handful of T2 teams left and the failure of drafting Colts defensive players for different systems is generally the norm. Not always, but generally. But that’s not semantics at all. In fact, those two situations are the very antithesis of each other. One is a reward, and one is not.

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Apr 29, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

To me, a reward of having ability to be a starter and the confidence of your coaching staff is a new contract; not being allowed to see what else might be out there because we don’t think you are worth starting money but we’ll talk about taking you back after we shop around for something better in FA and in the draft.

Obviously we’ll see if he is going to be the starter or not in a few months, but I think they brought him back to be a backup and a ST player.

There is a new ST coach that is dead set on improving that part of the team so he probably wants some veterans out there and not just rookies like in the past.

by AceOfSpades on Apr 29, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Update

“Colts | Keiaho close to re-signing
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Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:13:41 -0700

Mike Chappell, of the Indianapolis Star, reports the Indianapolis Colts will likely re-sign LB Freddie Keiaho, according to a person with knowledge of the situation, perhaps by the end of the week. "

http://www.kffl.com/player/14428/nfl

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Apr 29, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs