2009 NFL Draft Grades: QB Curtis Painter and OG Jaimie Thomas
The draft grades come to a close as we evaluate the worth of Purdue QB Curtis Painter and Maryland OG Jaimie Thomas. Both players were late round picks, and both offer depth at positions many feel there was already enough depth to begin with. So, the question hovers, Why draft them?
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Curtis Painter, QB, Purdue
Round 6, Pick #201
Jaimie Thomas, OG, Maryland
Round 7, Pick #236
Let's just get this out in the open right now: Curtis Painter was indeed brought in to compete with Jim Sorgi as the back-up QB to Peyton Manning. He was also brought in to, maybe eventually, replace Peyton Manning. If he wasn't, then this was a total waste of a draft pick, and Bill Polian should have his head examined. I know what Bill said about this issue. I think he is either delusional or, more likely, full of sh*t:
Polian said the selection of Painter is not a reflection on Jim Sorgi. "This is nothing that has to do with Jim Sorgi," Polian said. "We talked about committing to carrying the third quarterback. We've not done that in the past. That's been a practice squad spot. That's not ideal."
Yes, it does have something to do with Sorgi, Bill. If the Colts just wanted a third QB, there are plenty of guys they could pluck off the street to carry a clipboard and fetch Peyton Manning his Gatorade. Some of these guys (lke Josh Betts or Quinn Gray) are veterans who Indy can sign for next to nothing and have a pretty solid understanding of the Colts offense. So, don't feed me the "This is nothing that has to do with Jim Sorgi" line. It insults my intelligence. We all know Jim Sorgi is a VERY limited QB. He showed that in pre-season last year. His arm strength is crap and he cannot get the ball in the endzone inside the 20s.
Curtis Painter can get the football down the field, unlike Jim Sorgi
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Painter was drafted to replace Sorgi, and eventually replace Manning (maybe). If he wasn't, then this was a wasted pick, and better players who could fill bigger needs should have been taken.
So, we will just assume that Polian's statement regarding Sorgi is the BS we all know it to be (again, I love ya, Bill; but I know a steaming pile of BS when I see one). Who is Curtis Painter? Is he another Jim Sorgi, or, unlike Sorgi, can this guy actually throw the ball down the friggin' field?
Unlike MasterRWayne, I have no bias against Purdue players. Purdue's football program is a helluva lot better than Indiana U.'s, and produced better overall players. Sorry IU faithful, but that's just the facts. When IU produces a Drew Brees, then you can talk trash. Like Brees and Kyle Orton, Painter is trying to follow the tradition of Purdue producing solid NFL starting QBs. From Hammer and Rails, SB Nation's Purdue blog:
Painter could easily have a career much like Kyle Orton in that it takes him a few years to develop.
If you read Painter's scouting report, he offers more talent (it seems) than both Brees and Orton:
Strengths:
Terrific height and bulk...Arm strength is more than adequate...Solid mechanics...Quick delivery...Good anticipation and timing...Has a lot of big-time experience...Very productive...Decent program pedigree.
Painter is roughly 6'3, and he can really fling the ball down the field. Unlike Josh Freeman, he has good QB mechanics, knowing how to release the ball so his spirlas remain tight, allowing the ball to can maximum velocity. And unlike many other college QBs, he is capable of putting the ball where receivers are going, not where they are. In college, QBs throw to were receivers are. If you do that in the NFL, that a pick 6 the other way. In the Man's League, the throws must go to where the receiver is supposed to be, especially in this offense. Painter also sells the play-action fake very well, another big plus in Tom Moore's scheme.
So, lots of positives, right? Why was he drafted so late?
Weaknesses:
Not a great athlete...Can be wildly inconsistent...Lacks great accuracy and touch...Makes too many bad decisions...Tends to stare down his targets...Isn't very mobile...Footwork will have to be tweaked...Did not play in a pro style offense..Leadership ability has been questioned.
A big issue with Painter is his footwork, which needs a lot of work. Feet placement and leg drive are everything for NFL QBs. Feet must get set, shoulders square to the target, and legs ready before the ball can get thrown. Painter really struggles with this, and it often leads to "poor decisions" (a phrase roughly translated into "interceptions").
But, under new QB Coach Frank Reich, Head Coach Jim Caldwell (a QB guru in his own right), Tom Moore, and Peyton Manning, this kid Painter could develop into a pretty good player. He has the arm strength and the size to develop, and being an Indiana boy, he knows first hand just how awesome the Colts organization is and how they develop their players internally.
Hammer and Rails, one more time:
Curtis went 201st overall to the Colts. It is safe to say he isn't exactly going to challenge for the starting job. It's a high-risk, high reward opportunity for Curtis. If he can make the roster (and beat out long-time backup Jim Sorgi) there are few better quarterbacks in the league to learn from. Unfortunately, the odds are against him even making the regular roster. Sorgi is fairly entrenched as Manning's caddy, and the Colts rarely have three quarterbacks on the active roster because Manning is so durable. Painter may find himself on the practice squad for a year or two, which is still a very good place to learn from Manning. I would honestly be shocked if he played a down in the NFL this regular season.
Make no mistake, this kid wasn't just drafted for gits and shiggles. He was drafted to push Jim Sorgi out the door. Sorgi is certainly not "entrenched" as Manning's "caddy." That honor belongs to Anthony Gonzalez, also sometimes referred to a "Daddy Peyt's Golf Bitch."
If Sorgi were entrenched as the primary back-up QB, then the two veteran QBs Indy signed in Training Camp last year wouldn't have been brought in. And if carrying three QBs is an option Polian and the Colts are seriously considering, they need a reality check. A third QB is a wasted roster space. With the injuries we've typically had and the amount of defensive and special teams rotations we use in games, we need as many warm bodies as we can get. So, unless Polian expects Painter to play on special teams as a gunner, its a waste to have him active on gamedays as a third QB.
The final pick we will "grade" is Maryland OG Jaimie Thomas. For the second year in a row, the Colts end the draft picking an offensive lineman with the first name pronounced "Jay-me." Last year it was Jamey Richard, who played a ton in 2008 as a center and guard. This year, it's Jaimie Thomas, a 6'4, 322 pound monster from Maryland.
Jaimie Thomas must feast on his daily diet of two DBs per
day in order to remain satisfied.
Photo: media.collegepublisher.com
Right now, Thomas is the biggest guy on the team. To give you some perspective, he is an inch taller than last year's top draft pick (OG Mike Pollack), and outweighs Pollack by nearly 25 pounds!
Strengths:
Excellent height and bulk with long arms...Physical and aggressive...Is stout at the point...Gets a good push in the run game...Decent lateral agility...Strong hands...Great awareness...Good motor...Experienced.Weaknesses:
Average athleticism and quickness...Is not real strong...Doesn't always play with proper leverage...Limited range...Struggles in space...Can improve his hand use...Conditioning issues...May lack a killer instinct.
Thomas is yet another Bill Polian late round player that he will hand off to offensive line coach Howard Mudd to mold into yet another draft gem. With Ryan Lilja's career totally up in the air because of his lingering injuries, drafting Thomas (and signing Kyle DeVan and Brandon Jones) seems to suggest the Colts do not have a lot of faith in Lilja's health. The simple reasoning is if Lilja is healthy and ready to go, the Colts then have waaaaaaay too many players at the OG positions.
So, assuming Lilja is not healthy, this was a strong pick to close out the draft.
DRAFT GRADE: Solid Marks
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With Painter
I think the Colts are being the Colts in their statements. Misleading and not telling the whole truth, but stopping short of outright lies.
Sorgi won’t be beaten out this season and he’s a solid guy to have as a backup. The Painter pick is to get a backup of the future who, unlike Sorgi, has starter potential. Personally I hope they can stash him on the PS, but we’ll have to see what he shows in camp and in preseason to know if that’s a viable option.
I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
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by shake n bake on Apr 30, 2009 11:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Calling Bull there Shake!
So when Polian speaks about Brown/Addai he is telling the 100% truth! No double speak or coach talk there! However, when its about Painter/Sorgi its total 100% coach speak. See how you have a double standard?
Bottom line is Painter was brought into compete with Sorgi and Brown was brought in to challenge Addai. There is nothing wrong with this unless you have some sort of senseless man-crush on Sorgi and/or Addai. As “The Dude” (from The Big Lebowski) would say, “Nothing is fucked here man… nothing is fucked.”
by MasterRWayne on Apr 30, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said I thought their explict statements were true in both cases
I think they like Sorgi as a backup and that Painter has no chance at beating him out, which is what they said.
I think Brown is coming in to Dom’s role and the goal of the pick wasn’t to replace Addai, which is what they said.
In both cases I think there is some subtext that is being left out because they don’t know the future. When they make a explicit statement about their immediate intentions I believe it. When they start to get more vague and further in the future I think it’s open to interpretation, because they aren’t totally sure what they’ll do then either.
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by shake n bake on Apr 30, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So they spent a 1st round pick...
On a backup running back? That’s just crazy talk on your part Shake. My issue with you is you are so absolutely dogmatic in this. You are like a lemming failing off the cliff. Look they drafted Brown because they have concerns about Addai. If Addai plays well then we have two really good back, but if Brown plays better than Addai then you are stupid if you think Caldwell will sit there and go, “well we drafted Brown to be a 1B guy so… screw it he stay on the bench!” Furthermore, Addai is only signed through 2010 so naturally they are looking ahead.
It just blows my mind that you are so narrow minded about this.That you just completely fail to see the obvious point that they drafted Brown to improve the running game which in this case means Addai. They didn’t draft him to replace Rhodes… they drafted him to improve the 31st rank running game they had last year.
by MasterRWayne on Apr 30, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please explain
“Addai is only signed through 2010 so naturally they are looking ahead.” Wouldn’t that be saing, well Brown is only signed to 2013 so they are naturally looking ahead? We drafted Addai 3 years ago. I doubt we signed Brown just to let Addai fade away into the sun set. Addai will be resigned unless he blows out both of his knees. If Addai runs below 800 yards next season something is terribly wrong.
OH NO WE SUCK AGAIN!
by colts9318rock on Apr 30, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"On a backup running back? That’s just crazy talk on your part Shake."
Actually, that is exactly what they did with Addai. He didn’t start his rookie year – but he did see the field a lot. I would expect the same approach to Addai and Brown this year. However, I really don’t think Addai will be able to keep up with the production on the field and Addai will be replaced as the starter after a few games.
It will be the perfect way to put to bed the question: Is it the RB or the O-line?
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Apr 30, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please don't reply to him shake
Take it to e-mails if you feel you need to, but save us from another “I’M PRESSING THE KEYS ON MY KEYBOARD REALLY HARD TO PROVE MY POINT!” moments.
Arguing about how you argue is….wow, just wow. I’m not talking about you shake, you didn’t start it, but don’t keep it going and have it corrupt a thread that has nothing to do about Addai.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Apr 30, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Arguments like this do nothing to expand the debate into something interesting. Arguing semantics and all that is silly. The point is shake n bake disagrees with me thinking Polian is full of it, and that’s fine. There is no reason to jump all over him MRW.
And for the record, I am one who does not think Brown was brought in to compete with Addai. I think Brown was drafted because Polian knows you cannot win in this league with just one good back. You need several good backs.
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by BigBlueShoe on Apr 30, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Problem with Practice Squad
Players on the PS can be taken by other teams at any time. If they want to invest time and resources into developing Painter, then they have to keep him on the roster where other teams can’t pull him away.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Apr 30, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it depends on how much he shows in TC and preseason
if he looks good then they can’t put him on the PS because he’d get grabbed, but if he’s looking good then using a roster spot on him isn’t a big deal.
If he looks like crap then they should be able to stock him there.
The trouble is if he looks ok, what do they do?
I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter
by shake n bake on Apr 30, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spread rumors that he broke his leg and isn't expected to recover for 2 seasons?
by LovinBlue on Apr 30, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the smarter teams probably wouldn't buy it
when he goes to the PS instead of IR.
I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter
by shake n bake on Apr 30, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Randle El
threw a TD in the Superbowl. Other than that IU’s got pretty much nothing.
by beckmania on Apr 30, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
IU's last NFL all pro
since the 60’s was a kicker http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/stoyapet01.htm
Pro Bowlers in the last decade, Trent Green, Adewale Ogunleye, Kris Dielman
here’s the full list of IU NFL players http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/indiana/
I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter
by shake n bake on Apr 30, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Purdue can have...
They can have their NFL players. Its just too bad, for them, that their school and campus looks like Stalingrad.
by MasterRWayne on Apr 30, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? Have you actually ever been here?
by bbxxj on Apr 30, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or to Stalingrad?
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by Cassieper on May 1, 2009 3:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point and I believe Stalingrad
is now back to St. Petersburg. =-)
btw, I have been there. Beautiful architecture.
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by peytonsthebest on May 1, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leningrad
I think you mean Leningrad. And it isn’t called St. Petersburg. Stalingrad, the site of the famous battle in WW2, is now called Volgograd because it rests on the Volgo River.
To my knowledge, no Colts players come from there. :)
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by BigBlueShoe on May 1, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correction
It IS called St. Petersburg. A previous name for it was Petrograd, which basically means the same thing.
Oh, and Istanbul was Constantinople… Istanbul to Constantinople… been a longtime gone… Constantinople… but that’s nobody’s business but the Turks… OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH-OH-OH-OH-OH-Oh-Oh-Oh-OH-OHOH… Istanbul, Istanbul… ;)
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by BigBlueShoe on May 1, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
St. Petersburg changed to Leningrad
which changed to Stalingrad which changed back to St. Petersburg after the fall of communism…
those guys are really hard to keep track of! ;)
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by peytonsthebest on May 1, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crazy commies...
And their crazy dicktators.
by bamock on May 1, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and New York was once New Amsterdam
by ColtsPurdueFanFromKY on May 1, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As I said
When the whole is Brown/is Brown not replacing Addai thing came up after we made our first pick, we as a team and Polian as a GM is not the kind of guy to throw his players under the bus publically. He’ll support them, give them every chance and every bit of support – and then cut them without a second thought.
Everyone, including Sorgi, knows Painter’s in to compete for the backup QB role.
by eltharion_doa on Apr 30, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On Painter
I hope he can become a solid NFL QB. His consistency and accuracy (or lack thereof) can be maddening, but when he had solid receivers to throw to (Dustin Keller, Dorien Bryant and Greg Orton as a #3) he had the ability to look excellent.
I would think that some of his accuracy issues could be fixed with better and more consistent footwork. That being said, I also remember a lot of very inaccurate throws where he wasn’t pressured and seemed to have his feet set. I love seeing Boilers do well in the NFL, but I’m skeptical on this one. I hope I’m wrong.
by dbaltman on Apr 30, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
again, I love ya, Bill; but I know a steaming pile of BS when I see one
BBS to BP: “Yeah well, that’s just, ya know, like, your opinion, man.”
Hahaha. You are so funny when you pretend to be cynical.
by LukeM on Apr 30, 2009 12:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL
BP back to BBS: “How did you get into my office? SECURITY!”
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by BigBlueShoe on Apr 30, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um
I actually think Polian is being truthful with this one. What would have happened last season if Peyton had to miss the first week or two and Sorgi did have to play and we had no backup? Just because Peyton hasn’t missed a game doesn’t mean he never will. I think the Tom Brady, Carson Palmer, Dante Culpepper etc.. situations are pretty glaring examples of how easy it is to lose a QB that’s been pretty solid health wise. NOT carrying 3 QBs after the Peyton situation last season and the Tom Brady situation this season would be ignorant and a reason to have BP’s mental state checked out.
Bill Polian has stated, and shown in his track record that he goes for BPA. Painter was considered one of the top QBs prior to this season and a first round prospect initially. The same thing happened with Brown. BP and his scouting department had determined that Brown was the second, or even first but at the very least second, best back in the draft. Considering we draft in the bottom 20s-30s every season, passing up on that wouldn’t be prudent. How often does the second best back in the draft hang around during the Colts pick the last decade? We might have in 2002, but Rhodes had over 1100 yards and a 4.7 ypc, so it really wasn’t urgent even with Edge’s ACL.
That’s what everyone has to realize and understand when a RB or a skill position player is taken by the Colts even when we have someone there. We HAD to draft Addai even though we wanted Maroney and wanted to get MJD in the second because Edge was gone. I’m not knocking Addai at all, I think he can fully bounce back especially with lightened workload, but when you’re picking in the bottom part of the draft season after season, you have to take the players you consider solid elite first round picks if you have the opportunity. That’s the reason why the Colts remain so consitently good when other teams don’t. Teams picking in the bottom part of the draft still go in with “need” as a bigger factor than Polian puts on it. And when you start going for need over players that you might not need now, but you consider higher than a fringe first rounder, you decline.
It’s also not a coincidence that the Colts traded up to get Moala where they did, when they did. The Ravens were thought to be looking for a defensive lineman, and Moala was considered one of the best 5 techniques for a 3-4 in the draft behind Tyson Jackson. He’s one of the few college players that had actually played in the system. Moala was also rated as a top 5 pick, and some considered him the first overall prior to the Senior Bowl. It’s also worth noting that while his production may have gone down, every USC LB went before the fourth with two first rounders and Maualuga falling for “off the field” issues or whatever. Moala had quite a bit to do with those LBs production last season.
I do think Painter will eventually take over for Sorgi, but I’m pretty sure that he’ll be taking that job in 2011 when Sorgi becomes a FA and his contract is too high to justify what he offers. Sorgi will also be 31 at that time. But until 2011, I expect Sorgi to be Peyton’s backup and we will be carrying 3 QBs. Doesn’t really make sense to sign a guy to a 3 year extension towards the end of the 2007 season to have him compete and “replace” with Sorgi. I don’t expect Sorgi to be the backup or the starter in 2011, but there’s a difference between booting someone off the team and going with a much younger QB with the potential to be our eventual starting QB. He has the tools.
Besides, Painter doesn’t run a 4.6 40. I’d have to change my signature if he beats out Sorgi.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Apr 30, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thomas
I would like to see Thomas eventually beat out Diem for the starting RT spot in a few years. Diem’s play is alright, but we could definitely use an upgrade in that position.
by FreeneyWillEatYourBaby on Apr 30, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That'd be nice
but I don’t think a 7th rounder who hasn’t played tackle since high school is a good bet to become a starting RT.
Personally I’ve already got a 2010 draft favorite.

#79, the one taking the defender off his feet behind Greene.
Bryan Bulaga. Iowa’s sophomore LT.
Here’s a love piece on him from (one of) the Big Ten blog’s writer(s)
http://www.rivalryesq.com/2009/3/16/800224/bryan-bulaga-in-the-2009-o
I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter
by shake n bake on Apr 30, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, c'mon guys...
the 2010 draft? stop the madness… =-)
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Apr 30, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've seen 2, 2010 mocks
both had Indy taking a undersized DE.
Freeney is under contract for 4 more years, Mathis for 3.
I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter
by shake n bake on Apr 30, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's ridiculous.
How can the mock drafters know our needs before the season even starts?
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by Cassieper on May 1, 2009 3:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll go too high
I see him being a top 15 pick. He’s a monster.
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by Colts Homer on Apr 30, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe everyone will be all
“Robert Gallery, Robert Gallery, Robert Gallery”
and forget about all the other great players Iowa’s turned out, including linemen.
I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter
by shake n bake on Apr 30, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree with Monster
BBS is forgetting that BP is usually looking 2-3 years ahead when he drafts. BBS tends to only think about the coming year, which is why he is running SB instead of the Colts… It wouldn’t totally surprise me to see Painter get sent to the PS a couple times for short periods this year if we have injury problems but barring that I think he’ll hold that roster spot and the clipboard for most of the season. Besides as someone pointed out on some site (maybe here) recently. WIth Hunter gone we have no emergency QB…
by Rob-Westside on Apr 30, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
True
I do tend to think in the now and in the next year. Good point re: Hunter being emergency QB.
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by BigBlueShoe on Apr 30, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't read through the entire post, or comments
But wasn’t Hunter the punter supposedly the 3rd string QB if needed?
So now that he’s gone…the Colts draft a 3rd string QB. Seems to make sense to me. Honestly, it’s only smart to carry 3 QBs…If Peyton goes down, then all we would have is Sorgi and a black hole….
by yellowsnow on Apr 30, 2009 4:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
McAfee
Actually played LB and QB I think. I know he played LB.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Apr 30, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I'd prefer a black hole over Sorgi.
Say goodbye to all those defensive linemen!
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by Cassieper on May 1, 2009 3:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Painter...
Even as a faithful Boiler, I questioned this pick. His inconsistency, staring down his target and the interceptions, where maddening beyond belief to watch. Especially when he could show some real flashes of athletic excellence.
However, after thinking about it, I had those moments with both Brees and Orton when they were Boilers (though admittedly less of them). Both Brees and Orton required more time than “average” to develop into NFL QB’s. And honestly, neither had a very good situation with the team they were drafted with.
I can’t think of a better place for a QB to develop than Indianapolis. Manning is durable, it’s possible but doesn’t seem likely (knock on wood) Painter would end up in the same position Orton was in his rookie season, where he goes from 3rd string to starter in a matter of 2 preseason games. And Painter would be in a postion to learn from the best.
by racer39girl on Apr 30, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As a Hawkeye fan
I was quite a bit more concerned when Painter was playing than when he wasn’t. I remember last year’s game in particular when they put Painter in for the 2 minute drills and he moved the ball almost without effort. I wondered to myself why they dind’t play him more than just the 2-minute drills only to find out about his injury etc.
But I also remember thinking that this kid has great potential and I’d like to see him on the Colts. With a couple of years of training under the best possible coaches this kid could at the very least be a great back-up and potentially more.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Apr 30, 2009 5:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Painter will never beat out Sorgi
Painter can’t hit a receiver past ten yards. It’s unbelievable how bad he is at throwing the deep ball. I hated this pick. I saw enough of Painter to know that he is not and never will be an NFL QB.
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by Colts Homer on Apr 30, 2009 6:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the link
I’ve watched Painter the past few years and I do think both Brees and Orton were better. Brees had an intangible leadership ability that raised everyone elses’ confidence. Orton was a little different. He had more size than Brees and still had some leadership ability, but there was just a little bit missing from his game that Brees had.
Painter has some talent, but he really wilted this year when we needed a leader. He also did disappear in almost every big game.
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by BoilerTMill on Apr 30, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brees and Orton had much better teams surrounding them
And who better to learn about leadership from than Peyton Manning? Painter was a bright part of Purdue his sophmore and junior seasons. This year they had to deal with Tiller being a headcase, and a bunch of players that whined and complained. That Purdue team was not talented and got predictable on offense. This guy was going to be one of the first QBs taken if he had a good senior year…it was great value. The Colts will straighten out his mechanics. He wont be as good as Brees but he has more natural talent than both of them.
by ColtsPurdueFanFromKY on May 1, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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