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Mark Sanchez, the new Aaron Rodgers?

Hey, first of all I would like to introduce myself.  I'm Federico Pacheco a diehard Colts fan from San Jose, Costa Rica (Central America)... No we're not a jungle, no we're not mostly a jungle, no I'm not mad lol... That said I just want to tell you I discovered this page like a month ago and I started to visit it on a daily basis, and now I have decided to be a more integrated part of it (assuming you're acceptation). Now let's go to the main topic of this thread, my first thread lol.

 

 

Star-divide

When I saw, a couple of  weeks ago, a report that the Colts had a workout scheduled with Mark Sanchez, the first thing that came to my mind was the 2005 Packers. I know now someone is reporting that that workout never happened and won't happen, but we all know that the Colts could draft a QB this year, but probably not in the 1st round.

Now back to the 2005 Packers. Prior to the 2005 NFL draft, there was a big debate around the best QB, whether it was Alex Smith or Aaron Rodgers. That debate wasn't reflected on draft day, as the 49ers selected Smith with the first overall pick and Rodgers, well, he slipped until the 24th pick. Who held that pick? The Green Bay Packers! We all know who played QB for the Pack back then: Ironman; Brett Favre. Even though he was 35, the cannon-armed QB hadn't missed a single game in a decade, and he was coming off a 4 088 yard, 30 touchdown season. Did Green Bay urgently need a QB? Nope. The Dolphins urgently needed a QB, so did the Bears, so did the Browns...but they all passed on this guy. And I don't blame them...here's why:

  • Age: 21 years old. Pretty young. That raises questions about maturity. 
  • Experience: Junior. He transfered from a junior college, took the starting place in the 5th game of his souphmore year. That means less than two years of experience.
  • Height: many experts believed Rodgers wasn't tall enough at 6'2.
  • Coached by Jeff Tedford: this coach introduced Joey Harrington, Akili Smith, Tret Dilfer, and Kyle Boller to the NFL.

All this means that they had valid reasons to pass on him, and maybe him starting that year or the next would have added his name to the Jeff Tedford list, who knows?. So, in other words, Mr. Rodgers fell to the perfect situation. He was young enough to wait a couple of years before beginning to start in the NFL (he began starting when he was 24, the age of many rookies nowadays) and he would benefit of learning from a Hall of Famer. And now, 4 years later, things seem to have happened pretty well.

So...haven't you seen it already? They have more in common than being California guys:

Mark Sanchez:

  • Age: 22 years old.
  • Experience: Junior. Passed for 63 yards in 2006, stepped in for an injured John David Booty in 2007, and gained the starting job in 2008. Less than two years of experience.
  • Height: 6'2 plus.
  • Coached by Pete Carroll: even though Carson Palmer is his product, we also have Matt Leinart and John David Booty has apparrently showed nothing in Minnesota.

I know it's not a happy thing to start thinking about Peyton's replacement, but it isn't as early as it seems like (he once suggested he was playing until he was 36, of which we are 3 years away :S). Probably, it wasn't a happy thing for the Packers back then either, but it's going to happen sooner or later... And if by some miracle Mark Sanchez falls to us in the 27th pick, I highly doubt we will pass on him.  Besides, he would probably be the best player available and we all now Bill Polian.

I would rather have Hakeem Nicks or a big DT, more inmediate contrubutors...but knowing that we already have a replacement for Peyton (and learning under him) would make me very happy too.

Thanks to Wikipedia and NFL.com for the stats...

 

 

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Don’t worry about being “accepted,” nobody accepts King Richard, and he’s ended up as a contributing writer ;)

by furrycolt on Apr 6, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."

by psvirsky on Apr 7, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

First post...

First rec. Well thought out, thought-provoking post providing the sound rationale/reason why we may be looking for a QB before some (even me) think we will.

by bamock on Apr 6, 2009 11:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Well-reasoned. I don’t see him lasting that long, but four years ago nobody saw Rodgers slipping as well. Others have QB needs… as they did in 2005. Intriguing.

Would we take him…? Gosh, I think if you posted this about some other QB in one year I’d say yeah. Right now….. I don’t think Polian would pull that trigger. Mainly because we’re so close and have other needs. Part of it is my ignorance (I have no idea what next year’s crop of QBs will be like, or the year after, but the Colts are likely looking out that far)—If they are or have been thinking QB, they probably have a grid with a handful of soph, Jr, and Sr QBs with some idea of where they might fall in the draft over the next few years.

If they deem the 2010 or 2011 drafts to be QB rich, they’ll probably wait. If they look at the returning Jrs and Sophs and say “Crap, we’ll be in a deep hole if 18 gets hurt and we HAVE TO draft one of these clowns,” then yeah, maybe we go for Sanchez. Not sure if you are familar with the saying “a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush,” but it refers to playing it safe now rather than risking getting something better—or not at all—down the line in the future. They drafted that way when they got Gonzo and Clark in the first round…. and Ugoh and all those centers last year. The Colts are a proven “let’s draft this guy and be safe in case things get worse” team.

Okay, so I seem to have just talked myself in a circle. Maybe they would draft him.

I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.

by Bobman on Apr 8, 2009 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, Tebow's coming next year.

But I don’t know anybody else.

Now a proud annoyance on Stampede Blue, 18to88, Indy Football Report, and Phil B's blog.

Man, I need a life...

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: In my bedroom, I have 3 footballs with both Mike Vanderjagt's and Gilbert Gardner's signatures on them. Interesting story. Maybe I'll tell you about it sometime.

by Cassieper on Apr 8, 2009 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2010 is a much better time to do it

The 2010 class of QBs is much much much better than 2009. Yeah you have Tebow, who I see as a Roethlisberger (who benefits from a good defense more than anything but can sometimes pull stuff out).

But you also have Sam Bradford (Heisman winner), Jevan Snead may declare, and the guy I hope we get if we do it with Colt McCoy. Not only would it be badass to have a dude named Colt as the QB for the Colts, but I really like and think he could be a phenomenal QB if a few years. I like the way he commands the field, he has a presence.

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Apr 8, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

McCoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6Lo-6Z2aG4

At 1:30 where he gets the ball stripped, picks it up, and then throws a 20 yard completion is sick. He’s just one of those scrambling QBs who can pass equally as well as he can run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rccuLD64A68

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvhVXk7IZEc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uRAwB-wjB8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwD_DCCZ0Rw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhRiIBNLzbs&feature=related

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Apr 8, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bradford or McCoy would work for me.

I lean more towards Bradford though.

The thing I worry about is that both of those guys are going in the 1st round…we’d have to trade up and even then, they’re going to be expensive…unless the league puts a cap on rookie salaries. If there’s no overall salary cap, we could probably afford him. Except I have a hard time swallowing paying Peyton what he’s worth and paying a rookie a ton of money before he’s proven himself.

I’m sooo torn. ;D

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Apr 8, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Although...

there’s always the “learning from Peyton Manning” discount, I suppose.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Apr 8, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt

I doubt McCoy will be a top 10, or maybe even a top 20 pick. Bradford will probably be first overall, Jevan Snead will probably be a close second, and then Tebow and McCoy will probably be the third and fourth QB taken. 4 QBs rarely go in the first round. And I’d definitely want a QB to learn from Peyton for at least 2, hopefully 3 years before he goes in. What Peyton could teach him would be priceless.

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Apr 8, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess I don't want to think about Peyton being gone in 4 years...

more like 6-7. So, can we wait unitl, I dunno, 2013-14?

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Apr 8, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish

He has enough cash, maybe we can convince him to cryo-freeze himself and only thaw during the season. We could get about 12-14 years out of him that way.

Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.

by monstersbox on Apr 8, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

You know, he’s obsessed enough to actually consider it. =D

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Apr 8, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great post and welcome to Stampede Blue!

Of course you struck a particularly soft spot in my heart for both J-Ted (Go Bears!) and Aaron Rodgers, whose Cal and GB pics grace my walls at home ;-)

And as for your analysis – I agree with bamock… good thoughtful post. While I do question Sanchez’ character (thanks KR for setting me straight), I wouldn’t be surprised to see us swoop him up if he’s available.

by LovinBlue on Apr 7, 2009 11:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Some good ol'

Hoosier atmosphere could do him some good Lovinblue ;)

by bamock on Apr 7, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

His character

Is it in question because of that one unproven allegation?

by LukeM on Apr 7, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Recs

Wow…it’s is hard to get a rec around here…or maybe I need to change my screenname to bamock2 or something..lol

David Burton to the COLTS!

by fpacheco on Apr 8, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wouldn't hurt :-)

Now a proud annoyance on Stampede Blue, 18to88, Indy Football Report, and Phil B's blog.

Man, I need a life...

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: In my bedroom, I have 3 footballs with both Mike Vanderjagt's and Gilbert Gardner's signatures on them. Interesting story. Maybe I'll tell you about it sometime.

by Cassieper on Apr 8, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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