Apparently the Colts don't draft well
by AussieColtsFan on May 2, 2009 5:59 AM EDT
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According to Pat Kirwin, the Steelers, Eagles, Packers, Giants, Ravens, Patriots, Falcons and Dolphins have drafted better then Colts over the past 5 years. Here's the link.
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And the reason I posted this as a fanpost instead of a fanshot, is because no one reads the fanshots.
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by AussieColtsFan on May 2, 2009 6:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i listen to Pat Kirwan's radio show everyday
on my way home from work. though its a bummer he didnt list the Colts in his article. i can say that he does think highly of Indy as ive heard him say a lot of great things about the francise.
by MARVININDY on May 2, 2009 7:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know. I have read some nice pieces by him over the years relating to the Colts which is why I was surprised to see him leave the Colts out in this article.
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by AussieColtsFan on May 2, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Colts have...
12 players drafted 2005 and later who are starters at various positions on the roster.
7 players drafted before 2005 who are starters at various positions on the roster.
And 2-3 starting positions which are most likely about to be filled by players drafted 2005 and later in the 2009 season.
By my math that is 21-22 starting positions on the team by Colts draft picks. Proof? Okay.
Current starters drafted 2005 and later:
1) RB Joseph Addai -2006
2) WR Anthony Gonzalez – 2007
3) OT Tony Ugoh – 2007
4) G Mike Pollak – 2008
5) G Charlie Johnson – 2006
6) DT Keyunta Dawson – 2007
7) LB Clint Session – 2007
8) LB Freddy Keiaho – 2006
9) CB Marlin Jackson – 2005
10) CB Kelvin Hayden – 2005
11) CB Tim Jennings – 2006
12) FS Antoine Bethea – 2006
Current starters drafted 2004 and earlier:
1) QB Peyton Manning – 1998
2) WR Reggie Wayne – 2001
3) TE Dallas Clark – 2003
4) OT Ryan Diem – 2001
5) DE Dwight Freeney – 2002
6) DE Robert Mathis – 2003
7) S Bob Sanders – 2004
Positions about to be filled by 2005 and later draft picks:
1) 3 WR
2) 2 TE
3) DT
This does not include previous 2005 and later draft picks who will be replaced by other 2005 and later draft picks in the same position – potentially LG, OLB, DT, Nickelback
Only non-drafted starters on the team entering 2009 season?
1) TE – Gijon Robinson
2) C – Jeff Saturday
3) DE – Raheem Brock
4) LB – Gary Brackett
5) DT – Eric Foster
by bamock on May 2, 2009 7:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hint:
Every starting caliber player in 2008, transitioning to 2009 has something in common.
by bamock on May 2, 2009 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
EDIT
Every starting caliber player in 2008, transitioning to 2009 that WAS NOT drafted by the Colts has something in common.
by bamock on May 2, 2009 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very good points
Notice that no one on that list of “non drafted Colts” was DRAFTED AT ALL (or they were a late rounder from someone else’s waivers)! Ding, ding, ding!
I think the long and short of it is that it’s pretty obvious that the Colts draft well because they never look into free agency to fill roster holes. Primarily, if the team signs a free agent, he’s a UDFA/waiver claim, not some big name acquisition from another team. Further driving home the point of how well the Colts draft, you can look to see how well departed players are doing, or have done in their careers.
So for further analysis, in the Polian era…
1997-Bertrand Berry (3rd round) was solid but not great, but was certainly good enough to have an 11 year career and an important role on the 2009 NFC champs
1998-Steve McKinney (4th) was a starter for the first five years of his career for the Colts, then Houston.
1999-Edgerrin James was never as good with Arizona as he was with Indy, but he’s a borderline hall of famer who’s been to the Super Bowl. We’ve all heard from Mike Peterson and his huge mouth by now. Luckily he’s no longer in the division but there’s no argument he’s had a good career.
2000-Marcus Washington (2nd round) has been a starter for the Redskins since they signed him in 2004
2002-David Thornton (4th) has been a starter for Tennessee since they signed him in 2006
2003-Cato June (5th), a five year starter in the league (2 w/ TB) will likely start for Houston this season
2004-Jake Scott (5th) was apparently good enough to convince the NFL to give the Colts a 4th round comp pick for him when he left via free agency last season…of course he’s in the division too
It’s easy to see that the Colts draft well. Besides the players on their own team, they’ve drafted at least one game changing, very important player who’s left for another team in almost all of the Polian drafts.
by LukeNukem on May 2, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Just making sure I’m over the minimum word limit… as well as expressing my passion for the Colts :)
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by AussieColtsFan on May 2, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny
How one decent draft has, apparently, turned the Dolphins from a draft joke in four years to “nearly there” in five. Really? One year overrides four years of EPIC FAIL? I think Kirwin just went with the popular media stories at the moment – Ravens drafted a rookie QB and he started! Genius! Atlanta showed how much competant staff matter! Geniuses! Dolphins draft one decent year in five! That’s almost the best in the NFL! – and didn’t actually, y’know, think.
by eltharion_doa on May 3, 2009 6:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just curious
How great would these drafts look if Peyton Manning wasn’t the Colts QB ?
by pksiv on May 3, 2009 12:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Patriots are on the list too
how great would their picks look without Brady.
If Brady is in Peyton’s league then the same logic applies to a team that was counted in the article.
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by shake n bake on May 3, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would largely depend
On who we’d drafted instead of him, and who we’d replaced him with.
Because if we’d taken, say, All-Pro tackle Kyle Turley instead, then taken that Tom Brady guy two years later in the fifth round, I’m gonna say things would have turned out OK. Maybe not Manning OK. But not bad.
by eltharion_doa on May 3, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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