Bill Polian responds to Peyton Manning's negative comments
From ESPN:
Basically, Peyton is confused about the roles that Tom Moore and Howard Mudd will have in the future. My answer is, welcome to the club. We're confused, too. The people that are supposed to have answers still don't have answers. Whether we can bring them back, when we can bring them back, remains to be seen. We would love to have 'em back but we don't know in what capacity they will be allowed. It's still being researched.
I ask Bill to go back and re-read Peyton's comments. Peyton is not "confused" about the roles that Tom Moore and Howard Mudd will have with the Colts. Peyton is frustrated about the apparent lack of communication between the front office and the players. He's frustrated by the double talk. He's frustrated by the absence of talk.
If Bill Polian had come out, say, last week and said something to the affect of his quote above, there would be no issue. The issue is a lack of communication, and the side not doing much communicating is Polian's side. At least, that is the perception.
Tip to Blueisgood.
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link from Blueisgood says they can return imediately, with pay
but can’t be in the pension plan for 6 months.
by shake n bake on May 26, 2009 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Peyton's comments truncated
If you read Oehser’s expanded quotes from Peyton, then Polian’s statement makes more sense. The Star version cut short Peyton’s quote.
http://indyfootballreport.com/index.php/archives/2018
"I really can’t tell you," Manning said. "I can’t tell you what’s going on. I will say I don’t think it’s been the most properly communicated scenario around here. But we have learned to deal with change and be prepared to adjust. It’s still somewhat of an open book the last I’ve heard about it. If they come back as consultants – status quo – it’s really hard for me to answer."
Manning specifically discussed the whole "consultant" concept.
"I really don’t know what the word consultant means and I don’t know if anybody does," he said. "I know Tom Moore always told me that he talked to other teams that had consultants, he thought that was kind of a scary word. He thought all a consultant ever did was came in and second-guessed every play call you made. However that plays out, I’m not ready to give you my closing remarks on Tom and Howard. Tom and I did have a meeting three weeks ago and it was somewhat of an emotional meeting. It was 7 a.m. We were saying goodbye not knowing if it was official or not. We took some time to share some personal thoughts. It’s hard to do it in an hour meeting after 11 years of being together. A lot of meetings and a lot of private conversations.
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by deshawn zombie on May 26, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Media wants drama.
The fact that he isn’t quoted in entirity is frustrating. I really expected more from Mike Chappell.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on May 27, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*entirety
its still early on the West Coast.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on May 27, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
all I can say is the general sports media loves this crap. anything to bring the colts down.
sorry but the players play and of course peytons going to comment on this. those two are his coaches his entire 11 year colt career. you got to be nuts to think peytons not going to comment on this or whats going on
in the end the colts will adjust. in the meantime from now until sept the media will use this to bring them down. nobody will write how the eagle losing jim johnson will effect their vaunted D, etc or other teams big questions. Im sorry but tom brady and how he plays is still a big question mark but nooooooooo. it will only be the colts and their demise. everybody wants to see the demise while tom brady magically regains his form of two years ago. we are not cleveland sports. Im sick of all of this.
in the end its going to be indy and tenn battling it out and its time we focus on the great players we have on the field
by kinnickcolt on May 27, 2009 4:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Colts v. Pats
I hear you. I made the mistake of watching NFL Network last night where they featured this mess in the same program with the continued fellating of Brady and his reading cue cards telling fans he’ll be back 100%. I just about poked my eyes out.
How can you not love a team that does this?
by LovinBlue on May 27, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 gazillion!
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on May 27, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of my favorites
Thanks, bamock
How can you not love a team that does this?
by LovinBlue on May 27, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That always makes me smile.
Did you see his quote from yesterday?
(Gag)
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on May 27, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
KSK had a good line on him today
Hmmph. All in all, he sounds disgustingly well adjusted for a two-time Super Bowl MVP/baby-daddy of a Hollywood actress who instead got married to a supermodel. And that’s probably the most infuriating thing about Brady: for all the "Best Dressed Man Alive" articles and goat-holding photoshoots, he never comes across as an ignoramus or a total asshole.
Which is why we should hate him even more.
by shake n bake on May 27, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on May 27, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is why
For the most part, I don’t commit too much to the May-August time period with the Colts. I love ‘em, but I hate, HATE, the communication. It’s very frustrating to say the least. However, I thought that was only towards the fans. Now if the players are feeling that way, well the veterans, that’s not where you want to be. I’m surprised they didn’t just ask Peyton who he wanted as OC, may as well. I’d trust his decision over Caldwell’s, no offense.
I think Peyton’s just pretty ticked that they didn’t figure this crap out like, you know, as soon as the offseason started and everyone was making coaching changes? The fact that the Colts, doesn’t matter if the blame is placed on the FO or Mudd and Moore, waited until after the draft to address it, is frankly bullshit. Especially since, well, there really wasn’t anything the Colts could do, it’s not like they were trying to pressure the Colts into paying into the pension plan.
It’s just a SNAFU from the get go. There’s nobody to blame, but people are breaking promises. Tony said “Don’t fear! Everything is staying EXACTLY the same except Caldwell is becoming the HC. NOTHING else is changing!” Well, it doesn’t look like minor changes, the way it’s panning out is a complete overhaul of the coaching staff. Granted some may be people from within, but Mudd and Moore may come back yadda yadda…I think Peyton knows how this looks. He may not be worried, but the Colts are starting to look like they’re going to come out of this with egg on their face. It’s not being handled very professionally. You can’t double talk and play both sides in football, you make a decision and you stick with it. Just decide what to do. I mean they’re sticking by them in Denver.
I hope this doesn’t end up screwing up the last years Peyton has, and the most talented (in my opinion) team he’s ever had.
I’m going to go stick my head back in the sand because I’m starting to work myself up into a rage. I mean I was in the military, and these guys have more OPSEC than the government. I wanted to bang my head against my keyboard when I was trying to figure out everyone’s salaries a few months ago. They really need to get back on the teams to release that info. Most do, but it’d take a group highly skilled in espionage at the highest level to find out ANYTHING about the team. At some point it crosses the line from “understandable” to “really? you need to hide THAT?”. And that point is when Peyton Manning, you know the guy that should BE the loop, isn’t IN the loop.
Alright, heads going into the sand again.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on May 27, 2009 9:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here is an update from the Star via 18ro88
Owner Jim Irsay plans to rehire Moore and Mudd as consultants in time for the start of training camp Aug. 2, basically keeping intact the team’s offensive brain trust. According to Larry Kennan, executive director of the NFL coaches association, that will be allowed, with a caveat.
Kennan told ESPN.com late Tuesday that a clarification from an attorney representing the Employment Retired Income Security Act (ERISA), a government agency that regulates pension plans, paves the way for Moore and Mudd to return as consultants.
"As long as Howard and Tom pay their own taxes for the next six months, they can return to the Colts as paid consultants, I’d say effective right away, based on what the ERISA attorney just told me,’’ Kennan said.
by metal_militia on May 27, 2009 9:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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