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2009 Colts Rookie Mini-Camp: Final wrap-up

Indianapolis Colts coach Jim Caldwell  during a news conference after football minicamp at the Colts headquarters in Indianapolis, Friday, May 1, 2009. (AP Photo/Tom Strattman)

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6 months ago: Indianapolis Colts coach Jim Caldwell during a news conference after football minicamp at the Colts headquarters in Indianapolis, Friday, May 1, 2009. (AP Photo/Tom Strattman)

Obviously, we're not going to get much out of a rookie mini-camp designed to help these kids transition from college to the pros. There is no evaluation. No game plan implementation. Only drills, play book introduction, and interviews, interviews, interviews. Really, what this camp does is introduce the rookies to us (the fans) as well as the NFL. And so far, the introduction as felt a very positive first impression on everyone.

  • Austin Collie gives a nice interview on Colts.com. Seems like an intelligent guy, though in the interview it seemed he was looking off at something else while Jeffery Gorman asked his questions.
  • Interesting note on Collie: When drafted people said he was Indy's "Wes Welker." Most of us Colts fans chuckled at this because Wes Welker is actually New England's "Brandon Stokley." Stokley gave Bill Belichick nightmares when he played slot receiver in Indy, and when New England implemented an offense similar to Indy's a few years ago, one of the first things they did was signed Wes Welker to play the "Stokley" role. Back to Collie, the reason Austin fell to to the 4th round because of his 40 time (4.60), leaving some to ask "How can this guy be a Stokley or Welker-type receiver?" Well, Stokley ran a 4.54 at his Combine in 1999, and Welker ran a 4.60 at his. Slot receiver is more about precise route-running, finding holes in the zone, and catching EVERYTHING thrown at you. Not necessarily timed speed. Oh, and guess who Bill Polian compared Collie to: Brandon Stokley.
  • Collie and second year WR Pierre Garcon will likely dook it out over the starting slot receiver spot. Edge right now: Garcon.  
  • Jerraud Powers may have been the WTF pick for us Colts fans, but when interviewed he seems like a high character guy.
  • This has been made clear by Colts brass: Joseph Addai is the starting running back; Donald Brown is the back-up. The Colts are going to use even more Two-Back sets in 2009. I know this is often a VERY heated discussion here, but opinions aside, here is how the Colts will start things in 2009: Addai starting; Brown backing up.
  • I agree with John. Mike Hart has the edge on Chad Simpson and Lance Ball as the #3 back. Lance Ball is the wild card though. If he has an impressive training camp and pre-season, he could push Hart out the door.
  • Starting offensive line wil likely be LT Tony Ugoh, LG Jamey Richard, OC Jeff Saturday, RG Mike Pollak, RT Ryan Diem. I have no faith in Ryan Lilja's health. If he comes back, YAY! That's gravy! I'm not getting my hopes up. Guys like rookie Jaimie Thomas are nice depth, but unless Pollak or Richard really suck in TC, they won't lose their jobs.
  • Another year, another Penn State undrafted rookie with a troubled past.
  • I get the sense Jim Caldwell really liked Curtis Painter. He talked about him a great deal on draft day. Caldwell was a QB coach for years. If anyone on the club knows what to look for when it comes to QB play, it's Caldwell. So, if he like Painter, then Painter has to have some serious potential.

With rookie camp closed, OTAs will start as we forge ahead with the post-Draft off-season. As we do so, we will continue breaking down the Colts roster, looking for Training Camp battles and areas that need improvement.

Go Colts!

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Question about Lilja

so if he doesnt make it back into the starting lineup because of nagging injuries. will he remain as a high priced backup or get cut to save money? and IF he got cut, what would the impact be on the cap?

by MARVININDY on May 4, 2009 11:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll look into that

Good question.

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by BigBlueShoe on May 4, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he got cut today

or sometime this season, I dont think we would take a huge cap hit. If im not mistaken, when players restructure their contract, it pushes back some payment dates so, our cap should be ok for this and maybe next season (barring their is a cap next season(

by metal_militia on May 4, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea I was questioning the same thing...

I don’t think its Richards job to lose as of yet in my opinion. I think him and Johnson are going to battle it out this summer and the better player will get the job. Either way though, Johnson will be the primary back-up at either OT spots. I’m already ruling out Lilja, but if he somehow comes back healthy, then thats a plus.

by ColtsFanNChiTown on May 4, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

O Line

As long as the group stays healthy, and they don’t have to shuffle the lineup every single week like last season, I will be comfortable with it.

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by AceOfSpades on May 4, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Addai / Brown

I don’t mind Addai being the starter at all. As Polian has stated several times since the draft, Brown will have a major role though. I think they end up splitting carries or maybe 60/40 as the season wears on….barring injuries of course.

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by AceOfSpades on May 4, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ya i dont think either will get many more carries at first

They are going to be a tandem so they will pretty much split carries, and whoever is doing better in a given game will get a little more. I think this is going to be a great year from Addai considering hes going to have Brown and his job breathing down his neck. This move gives him alot of motivation to step up and produce

by ColtsPurdueFanFromKY on May 4, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice Terrance Taylor Interview:

One on One with Terrance Taylor

Standing next too Jeffrey Gorman you can truly see how massive he is.

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by AussieColtsFan on May 4, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice Terrance Taylor Interview:

One on One with Terrance Taylor

Standing next too Jeffrey Gorman you can truly see how massive he is.

Alcohol, the cause of - and solution too - all of life's problems!

by AussieColtsFan on May 4, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

…..not sure why it posted twice…???

Alcohol, the cause of - and solution too - all of life's problems!

by AussieColtsFan on May 4, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

…..not sure why it posted twice…???

Alcohol, the cause of - and solution too - all of life's problems!

by Cassieper on May 4, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aw, the stupid auto-formatting messed up.

I went to great lengths for that joke. You’ll notice that I changed the signature, but I also had changed my profile image to that of AussieColtsFan so that the only thing you would notice different about the comments was my username. But when I switched back to my old profile image, it replaced the one in the comment above with my usual one.

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by Cassieper on May 4, 2009 11:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

haha

unlucky, good effort though. I did a very quick double take until i saw the pic.

ps. LOL at your random fact of the week

Alcohol, the cause of - and solution too - all of life's problems!

by AussieColtsFan on May 6, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Curious where this comes from:

“Collie and second year WR Pierre Garcon will likely dook it out over the starting slot receiver spot. Edge right now: Garcon.”

Why is everyone all of a sudden annointing Garcon as the next #3 starter? Is it because of the ONE short interview with Polian where he was asked specifically about last year’s draft? If so, I need to point out the question was about those who were drafted last year that he thought could make an impact – so naturally he wouldn’t talk about either Roy Hall or Austin Collie.

It is clear that there is going to be a serious three-way battle for the #3 spot, and at this point the winner is completely up in the air. In fact, if the talent pool really is that deep, I could see a rotational set up where they each see some field time and a few formations using 4 WRs. Then of course, I think both Collie and Garcon would be serving on kick and punt returns while Hall plays in both coverage on ST as well as gunner.

by the_iowa_hawkeye on May 5, 2009 9:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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