Colts fan commentary on Ed Johnson, and some media reaction to it
by Brad Wells on May 6, 2009 11:47 AM EDT
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PrintObviously, Ed Johnson getting re-signed by the Colts was going to get eclipsed by the news that Brett Favre is talking to the Minnesota Vikings about returning to the NFL. Like it or not, that is a BIG story, and cannot be ignored. Favre took a 4 win NY Jets team last year and helped them to 9 wins despite a horrible defense that couldn't stop the run or pass. The Vikings are a 10 win team. Add Favre to that mix (which includes Adrian Peterson, a great defense, and Percy Harvin) and the Vikes could be scary good in 2009. So, it is understandable the Big Ed gets pushed aside for "Favraggedon."
However, Favre to the Vikings means absolutely nothing to Colts fans. So, knowing that, it makes absolutely no sense why, despite three HUGE Colts stories breaking yesterday, that the Indy Star only posted something this morning on their website. That "something" was another journalistic turd laid by Bob Kravitz; a turd that was rolled up and shoved back in "Krabby's" pie hole by the Zombie Bros at 18 to 88. Kravitz, in his typical, juvenille manner, makes the claim that Ed Johnson returning means that Tony Dungy was the only one in Colt Land who held any moral authority at West 56th Street. With him gone, the re-signing of Big Ed puts the Colts in the same league with the old Stephen Jackson-Jamal Tinsley Indiana Pacer teams of a few years ago.
Yep. Sounds pretty f*cking stupid to me too.
Ed Johnson paid the price for his foolishness last year. He was cut, and spent most of the 2008 season not getting paid. Knowing this, I think it is a pretty safe bet that if Tony Dungy were still coaching the Colts, he would have let Ed Johnson back on the team. Dungy is a loyal soul, and works hard to see that people get second chances. He does prison ministry work for god sakes, and just recently visited Michael friggin Vick in the hope that he can get a second chance in the public eye. So, to suggest that Dungy would say "NO! He's a druggie! Keep him off my team!" when offered the chance to re-sign Big Ed is just plain and simple ignorance.
In short, typical Bob Kravitz.
Once again, I firmly believe Kravitz only writes this kind of crap so that we get upset and run around like headless chickens. So, this means that, once again, I've fallen in the Kravitz Hack Trap. But what Kravitz's ignorance underscores is just how disconnected the Indy Star is from its readers. Go look in the comments from our Ed Johnson posts yesterday. Almost everyone in there seems to say the same thing: Johnson paid the price for his stupidity, and I welcome him back for this second (and likely last) chance to play in the NFL.
Everyone screws up. Everyone makes mistakes. It is when the mistakes become routine and constant that people start to get pissed. Ed Johnson is not former-Pacers guard Stephen Jackson. He's not going to strip clubs during training camp and shooting at patrons in the parking lot. He's not Jamal Tinsley, firing pistols at people outside the Conrad Hotel, or beating up bartenders downtown. Guys like Jackson and Tinsley were given third, fourth, and sometimes fifth chances, and still managed to screw up. Currently, there is no one on the Colts who event remotely fits those profiles, and the reason that is so is the Colts look for high character people. While Ed Johnson has a checkered past, he is not a low character kid.
Like Tony Dungy, Jim Caldwell and Bill Polian believe in second chances. If people think that welcoming Ed back undermines the Colts "moral high ground," then fine. These people who think this way are narrow-minded, silly people, and they deserve to be ignored. Strong morals and integrity have their roots in forgiveness, redemption, and an understanding that we are all human. When you are giving someone who was arrested a second chance to right the ship that is their life, that (to me) suggests someone who is moral and kind. Big Ed now has the opportunity to make a better life for himself. What he does is up to him.
If he screws up, oh well! He'll likely get cut again, and the Colts will move on.
Again, most rational, moral people think this was a good move by the Colts. It helps their team and provides a second chance for a good-hearted but troubled young guy. If other can't see that... whatever. I have no time for close-minded simpletons like Kravitz and his brethren at the Star.
Oh, and by the way (from 18 to 88, emphasis mine):
So in all this, where was the Star last night? All three major blogs posted (Stampede Blue, Oehser, 18to88) the Ed Johnson story before the Star. Oehser and SB beat us to it, but we had the press release up first. The point being, the Star had nothing. When they finally did post something, it was exactly what anyone could already have found on 18to88.com. That is, it was just the Colts press release.
Then Peter King announces that he has a tip that Marvin's done. The Star still has nothing.
Then Howard Mudd tells Mortensen he might quit. Stampede Blue and Oehser have it. It was in our comments section and I'm commenting about it now (thanks for the tips), but the Star still has NOTHING. t remains to be seen if it will really happen, as it sounds like there is confusion over the pension plan that might still work itself out. Still, many of us wonder if the Colts line problems last year weren't at least partially related to the time Mudd missed undergoing surgery. The Colts #1 question mark going into the season is the O-line, and suddenly the man most responsible is possibly leaving, and the Star doesn't even mention it on its main Colts page.
A couple of weeks ago, we asked Kravitz why fans should read the Star. He basically said, "What choice do you have?".
The answer to that question is becoming clear. If the Star can't break or even register two of the three major Colts stories in a day, what purpose does it serve?
They really serve no purpose anymore. I mean, re-read Kravitz's comment. What an arrogant douchebag. People have moved on from the tired and dead practice of getting news from newspapers. They are a day late and make you a dollar short. People are now starting to realize that this dinosaur of a newspaper and the morons like Kravitz who work there do not provide real, breaking news that they care about.
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Great commentary BBS
In the true spirit of christianity, we have forgiven (though not forgotten) Ed’s past indescretions…Unfortunately, Kravitz is a narrow minded yutz, who just doesn’t get what the (Dungy Legacy) Colts organization is all about. Anyway, well said Blue, you nailed it yet again….
GO COLTS!!!!
peterbones
I keep meaning to say this: I friggin love your profile pic! It’s just hilarious.
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On with the Favre hate
You give Favre waaaaaaaay too much credit for the Jets improvement.
The D was better than the by DVOA and as good as it by yardage.
and the run O was better than the pass O especially by DVOA, but by yardage too.
The Jets got better on defense (actually got 3-4 players to run their 3-4 with) and on the OL, that (and a few less games of Kellen Clemons starting) was why they got better. Favre’s addition was that he was a QB the coaches wouldn’t pull for their unready “QB of the Future” (even though Pennington went to a worse team and had a much better season than Favre)
Half the game too lazy
still sleepin' on me
but I'm 'bout to wake 'em
-Lil' Wayne "Fireman"
Jets
I watched a lot of Jets games last year, man. That defense was wretched. No offense to DVOA, but i know what I saw with my own two eyes. Horrible D. I saw more than one game where Favre pulled a win right out of his ass. The team was 8-2 prior to him tearing his shoulder muscle. They went 1-5 after that.
I also watched a lot of Kellen Clemons. He stinks. So did Chad Pennington in Brian Schottemheimer’s offense.
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I also watched a lot of Kellen Clemons. He stinks.
So did Matt Cassel in the preseason and his first couple of games.
And yes, obviously Favre’s injury had something to do with his performance – but what is the NEXT injury late in the season? He’s old, injuries will happen.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on May 6, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll bite
What games did Favre pull out of his ass?
I’ll give him credit for the Patriot win. Otherwise, Pennington leads that team to the same record, if not better. He certainly doesn’t blow the Oakland game. (I’ll agree about Clemens though.) Favre was only successful when Schottenheimer effectively neutered him. They were winning games without him throwing the ball more than ten yards down the field at all. I’m impressed at his accuracy in the short game, honestly, but he did eventually revert to his old self and start taking dumbass risks.
Let’s not forget that their line play greatly improved, their running and return games were good, their receiving corps improved over the previous season, and they had an historically easy schedule. All of these played a bigger role in that team’s turnaround than Favre did (just as similar things made more of a difference for the Fins than Pennington). Saying Favre led that turnaround is the same as those CHFF idiots making the case for Chad over Peyton in December.
He didn’t tear a shoulder muscle. He had an inconsequential bicep issue that he used as an excuse because he’s a fucking loser who can’t play well anymore. I’ve had the same injury, it’s not a big deal at all. if it mattered he’d have had surgery.
If he goes to the Vikings he’s going to torpedo their season and get embarassed twice against the Packers. I hope he does it, I hope they suck, and I hope the Packers never retire his number. He won’t deserve it after this.
Post
I answer all this Favre stuff, I guess I’ll have to write a post.
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Dolphins
I don’t like Favre anymore, mostly because of all this sh*t he’s been pulling the past 2 years, but he did pull that Dolphins game out of his ass and I think it was Week 1 if I remember right.
"Senior citizens, although slow and dangerous behind the wheel, can still serve a purpose."
oh please
He sucked all game and got lucky with a throw only slightly smarter than Eli’s heave in the super bowl. He just chucked it up for grabs without even looking.
Also, Pennington was awful that game. Didn’t have his sea legs yet or something. I remember watching that one thinking the Fins would end up 1-15 again.
"Pulling it out of his ass"
That’s the definition of how that Dolphins game ended
"Senior citizens, although slow and dangerous behind the wheel, can still serve a purpose."
In that case wouldn’t Elam have been the one doing the ass pulling? He’s the one that picked off the pass to the end zone when the Fins had a chance to win it.
It’s not as if the Jets stormed back to win that one. They were up 13 and barely held on.
Blah blah blah
Too bad DVOA is a crappy metric. This isn’t baseball Shake. With baseball you have hundreds if not thousands of games to judge a player so therefore your statistical sample is MUCH bigger. With football… well I doubt Manning will play New England even 40 times in his entire career. The sample is much too small and thus the information is gives is garbage.
If you were to watch the game you would have seen that the Jets were pretty soft on defense and that Favre played excellent through 3/4 of the the season. He fell apart at the end because his arm gave out on him. The team asked too much out of a player at that age. With the Vikings I doubt that will happen. This is a great setup for Favre.
People just like to hate on Favre because they like to build people up just to tear them down. I think Favre should play for however long he wants to and the Vikings are a good fit for him. Now the media will blow this out of proportion, but you can’t blame Favre for that. I say good luck to Bret Favre and I hope to face him in the Super Bowl. That would be an awesome matchup between Manning and Favre!
small sample size fucks up just observations just as bad
if you just watched a few Colts games and they happened to be at the start of the season, you’d think they weren’t very good at all (in fact that’s what actually happened quite a bit here).
Just because statistics have a name for it doesn’t mean it doesn’t apply outside of stats.
Half the game too lazy
still sleepin' on me
but I'm 'bout to wake 'em
-Lil' Wayne "Fireman"
by shake n bake on May 6, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude, first off, censor yourself would you? You’ve been cussing up a storm here lately and it’s uncalled for.
Secondly, everyone thought the Colts weren’t good because they WEREN’T. Parcells said it best, “You are what your record says you are.”
Third, what you don’t seem to get is that you’ve proven to be incapable of formulating an opinion that doesn’t revolve around DVOA stat lines or someone else’s word. Which, to put it mildly, is slightly annoying.
I write words and stuff for Stampede Blue.
Half the game too lazy
still sleepin' on me
but I'm 'bout to wake 'em
-Lil' Wayne "Fireman"
by shake n bake on May 6, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
for comparison
Half the game too lazy
still sleepin' on me
but I'm 'bout to wake 'em
-Lil' Wayne "Fireman"
by shake n bake on May 6, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
and I have almost double the posts and over 3 times as many comments as you
so I think you need to censor yourself more than I do.
Half the game too lazy
still sleepin' on me
but I'm 'bout to wake 'em
-Lil' Wayne "Fireman"
by shake n bake on May 6, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
The last time I threw down an f-bomb was back in December, PRIOR TO BEING PROMOTED AS A WRITER.
You on the other hand, well let’s take a look:
by shake n bake on May 6, 2009 12:26 PM EDT on Colts fan commentary on Ed Johnson, and some media reaction to it
by shake n bake on May 5, 2009 11:03 PM EDT on
by shake n bake on Apr 24, 2009 8:45 PM EDT on
by shake n bake on Apr 24, 2009 1:56 PM EDT on Draft Gut Feelings
by shake n bake on Apr 10, 2009 12:55 PM EDT on Analyzing our drafting possibilities, and grading them
by shake n bake on Apr 3, 2009 11:39 PM EDT on Pipe Dream Prospectus: Wide Receiver
by shake n bake on Mar 31, 2009 9:58 PM EDT on
by shake n bake on Mar 26, 2009 1:17 PM EDT on Dominic Rhodes could possibly return to the Colts in 2009
by shake n bake on Feb 6, 2009 6:38 PM EST on Who wants to figure this out with me?
by shake n bake on Jan 28, 2009 7:02 PM EST on Understand that this is completely circumstantial
Want me to keep going? Nah, I don’t need to.
Your attempt to make be look like the a-hole here was a complete and utter failure. Omitting the facts isn’t going to help you.
I write words and stuff for Stampede Blue.
writers can't use that word? News to me.
want me to post a search on BBS?
Half the game too lazy
still sleepin' on me
but I'm 'bout to wake 'em
-Lil' Wayne "Fireman"
by shake n bake on May 6, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
and it's just that word they can't use then
because
just took a shit or just finished fapping to pictures of Heidi Klum (hot). Graphic, I know, but it had to be said.
Half the game too lazy
still sleepin' on me
but I'm 'bout to wake 'em
-Lil' Wayne "Fireman"
Anyways, I wasn’t coming in here trying to pick a fight, which obviously you were just looking to do, which doesn’t surprise me. And the fact that you once again had to do this in the comments section just goes to show what kind of person you really are.
I’m not replying to you anymore because, really, I don’t need to say anything to make you look like a fool. I’ll be glad to continue this via email. Peace.
I write words and stuff for Stampede Blue.
I hate to say it . . .
but you do a fine job of making yourself look like an a-hole around here without shake’s help. Getting on his case for using a “profane” word? What kind of shit is that? Fucking ridiculous if you ask me.
The Shogun of Harlem
I like that word
great explanation of the words greatness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-UPB78o2W8
Half the game too lazy
still sleepin' on me
but I'm 'bout to wake 'em
-Lil' Wayne "Fireman"
Interesting, I don’t recall you showing such disdain for me the last time I met you.
I write words and stuff for Stampede Blue.
and I'm sorry you are annoyed my me citing evidence with my opinions
Half the game too lazy
still sleepin' on me
but I'm 'bout to wake 'em
-Lil' Wayne "Fireman"
by shake n bake on May 6, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
?
1. The statement, “You are what your record says you are,” is an example of using a statistic (a team’s record) to prove a point. Congratulations.
2. With all due respect to the fine editors and contributors to this site, I’m much less interested in your unsupported opinions than I am in your reasoned positions that are backed up by facts (whether those facts are statistics, anecdotal evidence, or even just objective observations, they carry more water than the “Jets defense was soft because I said so”). Many contributors and commenters on this site have had field days criticizing the unsupported opinions of established and connected journalists like Peter King and Dr. Z, so what makes you think anyone wants to hear the same thing coming from an anonymous blogger?
3. Arguments backed up by statistics and objective observations further intelligent discussion; gut feelings and opinions without backing do little more than create controversy.
4. Re: DVOA – it’s hardly a valid criticism to say that DVOA is invalid for its small sample-size when that is true for virtually all NFL statistics (including record). If anything, DVOA strives to ameliorate that problem by analyzing every single NFL play. I agree that because all NFL-statistics suffer from the small-sample-size problem, physical observation has its place in the discussion, but you’re going to have to do better than generalized statements like “If you were to watch the game you would have seen that the Jets were pretty soft on defense.” Such a statement is utterly useless to the debate because it is based on nothing but your own (limited) observations and definition of “soft.” At least DVOA breaks down every Jets defensive play in an attempt to describe the defense’s effectiveness.
by B.P. Glass on May 6, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Favre is a turd...and you can't polish a turd
He keeps coming back for the publicity, and for his records. Stick it!! I am sick of Favre…go away already. Don’t say it is the fault of the media….Favre lives off this stuff!! He sucked last year…a lucky pass out his butt or two the exception. How many pics did he throw? I say good luck to Favre on his ranch in the country.
blown out of proportion
Normally I’d agree that it’s unfair to blame the player for the media blowing things out of proportion, but in Favre’s case he does it himself. The man has retired twice now and might unretire a second time. Yeah, it’s his right, but he has always been a ham that milks things for publicity. He has King and other writers in his back pocket and uses them, and has masterfully created a Golden Boy image despite a good deal of evidence that he’s a selfish ass. So it’s understandable that many people are enjoying him tearing that image down.
I was forced to watch a lot of Jets games last year too since CBS had a hardon for Favre. Their D was fine. Not great, but not dreadful. You guys make it sound like he was playing with Denver’s D or something and carrying the offense the way Cutler did sometimes. It’s kind of analogous, really, since Cutler can be great or awful, much like Favre, but there weren’t any games where Favre stepped up and overcame an awful defensive effort last year.
+elventy billion
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on May 6, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
(wink)
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on May 6, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
yes yes yes yes yes
The national media continues to love Favre even though he has doomed the good teams he has been on for years now, throwing his hail mary’s at any time in the game, usually when least appropriate. He is getting old fast, tries to make too much out of nothing, and is now injured too; but still the media and many fans think he is Christ himself still!
IF the Vikings sign him, all they are doing is selling a few more jerseys, because he sure as hell won’t take them to the Super Bowl and will eventually just set the progression of that team back a few more years, in effect ruining the great impact that Adrian Peterson could have had on the franchise.
"Senior citizens, although slow and dangerous behind the wheel, can still serve a purpose."
That brings up an interesting point.
I’d like to meet the Vikings fan that would buy and wear a Favre jersey after being conditioned for the better part of two decades to hate him.
That just seems like an awful use of money.
And another point....
they are going to have to release John David Booty if they take on Favre, unless they plan on keeping 4 QBs.
I wouldn’t mind having Booty as a backup on the Colts.
A) More skill and upside than Sorgi
B) Cooler name than Sorgi
"Senior citizens, although slow and dangerous behind the wheel, can still serve a purpose."
DT goes from worst depth position to best?
Nailed it BBS.
I’ve been reading awhile and just joined. I can hardly wait to see a DT rotation that must be paid attention to. How nice would it be on 3rd and 6 to make the OL pay attention to the DL instead of mauling a LB and creating a huge hole.
If we end up with Johson, Moala, Taylor, Dawson, Foster, and Grady the DT might go from the reason we can’t get off the field, to the reason we can.
Yeah, I'm Shure.
Hopefully Johnson doesn't do the same thing again
He got into some issues in college as well, you know. Still, if he screws up, I’m assuming the Colts cuts ties with him again and it’s not a big issue because they’ve done it before and they’ll do it again…
The good thing about Big Ed's re-signing
is that we have depth now just in case he screws up. I wish him nothing but the best. I am all for his getting a second chance.
Does Kravitz not remember how he wanted Dungy to go after the loss in the WC? He was calling for Dungy’s head. Also, does Kravitz not remember that Coach Dungy’s son committed suicide while addicted to drugs? Does Kravitz REALLY think that Dungy wouldn’t be all for giving Ed a second chance? Especially considering that his own son wasn’t able to? Dungy is a Christian and by definition of the word that means forgiving. Kravitz is simply looking for hits. He knows that the Star and his columns are quickly becoming obsolete. I think stirring the pot is the only way he thinks he can be read. He is a douche.
As far as “Farvageddon”…that is the most accurate description I have heard. I am so sick and tired of him. Wasn’t last year enough? Maybe he figures he’s already lost the respect of alot of football fans, so what does he have to lose now…other than his ego, that is. ugh.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
Dungy's son
Where did you get this information that Dungy’s son was addicted to drugs? I don’t remember ever seeing that in any news stories.
The Shogun of Harlem
I have a good memory. I had a similar experience around the same time. So, I remembered.
“Addicted” was probably too harsh a word to use. I will correct that and say he’d been using drugs. Had an attempted suicide a few months prior using prescription pain killers. Using is using.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on May 6, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and before someone goes postal
I want to make one thing clear: my point was that I think Dungy would relate to someone who is troubled and human. THAT’S ALL.
I felt terrible for both Coach Dungy and especially his son when this happened. I can’t imagine the pain someone has to be in to end it all. There aren’t enough words to describe that kind of pain.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on May 6, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Sweet.
Back to football talk.
Love bringing Mr. Ed back. Got busted for speeding – which in Indy is 36 mph – and havin grass, which I didn’t think was a crime anymore. I understand he knew the zero tolerance deal when he first came in, given the whole ‘confining a girl against her will’ thing at PSU. But if you booted everyone that smoked weed we’d be down to Jim Sorgi. And I’d be surprised if Sorj didn’t puff. Ain’t got sh*t to do…
Welcome back Big Johnson. Don’t get caught.
by I'm Not Alone, I'm Just Blue on May 6, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions
I have to take exception
“It is when the mistakes become routine and constant that people start to get pissed. Guys like Jackson and Tinsley were given third, fourth, and sometimes fifth chances, and still managed to screw up.”
This is not Ed’s second chance. It is his third chance. He was given a second chance, and he screwed it up. That’s getting into the realm of routine.
You make the argument that he is not a low character guy, but actually has a really good heart. Do you know Ed personally? If you do, and you feel that way, that’s fine. If you don’t know him, I’m not sure how you can make judgments on his character, and chide others for doing the same thing. This is a guy who got in trouble at Penn State for “sexual misconduct and confining another student against their will.” That basically sounds to me like getting in some sort of altercation with a girlfriend and not allowing her to leave when she wants to. In my experience, usually someone who shows violence or aggression towards women isn’t, at their core being, a kind hearted person.
I’m not arguing moral ground, I’m just saying I find it a bit of a misnomer to claim that Ed’s some big teddy bear that just got caught for weed. Leave the weed out of it. It’s about decision making. The fact of the matter is, this is a guy who would have gone in the first day of the draft, yet, whatever he did at Penn State made everyone, including the Colts, wary of even drafting him. So, then he gets a second chance. He knows how much is at stake. He knows that his career and millions of dollars are on the line, not to mention a possible championship, and he still can’t manage to keep his nose clean. Personally, I highly doubt this is the last time Ed has some troubles. Look, for his sake and the Colts’ sake, I certainly hope I am totally wrong about that. Anyway, it may not even matter – he still has to make the team.
The Shogun of Harlem
Weed and good/bad decision making...
…often go hand in hand.
Leave the cleanliness of his nose out of it.
by I'm Not Alone, I'm Just Blue on May 6, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
If he messes up again, then they will release him again. No harm, no foul.
If he stays clean, makes the team and plays well, then we can all applaud him and say that he made the most out of his second chance.
You sound like you think Ed is a joker and a thug, but I wonder what you would think about some of the players you look up to if you knew their entire story and not just what you see on the news.
And, on a side note, consider this. One of the most beloved Presidents (recently at least) was repeatedly having affairs while he was in the public eye. He was later impeached for it, but is still regarded very highly by the majority of Americans who seem to have completely forgotten about all of his mistakes. People naturally forgive other people. If you want to talk about decision making, the decisions a President is making can have life or death consequences for all of us. I hate politics, but it relates to this in a way.
I wish the best for Ed.
"Senior citizens, although slow and dangerous behind the wheel, can still serve a purpose."
I don't look up to any of these guys...
and that is the problem with fans. Why look up to someone who is great at a sport. I happen to be very good at my job…look up to me? Naa I didn’t think so. I agree with shonuff…this is not Ed’s 2nd chance…it is his third. And by all accounts he has been a joker and a thug.
I wish him luck and hopefully there will be no more issues. go get em Ed!
2nd chance with the Colts though
and I look up to you.
“Don’t sell yourself short….you’re a tremendous slouch.”
"Senior citizens, although slow and dangerous behind the wheel, can still serve a purpose."
I'm not trying to bash
Look, I do not make it a practice of throwing stones. I’m not saying I’m better than Ed. I’m simply saying that taking the position that this is a solid character guy who has only screwed up once in his life seems to be sugar coating things. People are quick to give him a pass because they like what he can do on the field. If this was a fringe player, I’m guessing people would be less enthusiastic with the “aw, give the guy another chance.” And, I’m not saying he’s Steven Jackson or anything, but there was a time when that was how people felt about him.
It’s easy to say, “well, if it doesn’t work out, we just cut him. no problems.” That didn’t work out so well last year did it? It sure would have been nice to have filled that DT spot with someone that was actually going to play out the season when the Colts had more options. 4 weeks into the season, DTs are hard to come by.
Plus, I can assure you, I don’t idolize these guys, and I certainly don’t think that all the players I like are above indiscretions. The only guy I look up to is Bob Sanders, because I’m scared not to.
The Shogun of Harlem
See my original post above.
While cutting Big Ed last year was definitely problematic, this year we do have depth…which was probably taken into consideration when re-signing him.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on May 6, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
The only guy I look up to is Bob Sanders, because I’m scared not to.
Bob would put us all in a hole, one by one. By the time he got to the end of the line, the rest of us would have already dug the holes ourselves.
I see your point. I think, because they don’t really NEED Ed right now, they are saying that they appreciate how he has handled himself over the past year since he got into trouble and they are now willing to give him another shot at trying out for the team. That’s how it’s different from last year, because this year they finally have depth at DT and he isn’t the only one out there.
"Senior citizens, although slow and dangerous behind the wheel, can still serve a purpose."
d line
this is going to be great if he can keep his act straight. and i would probably bet that freeney is going to have his best season ever with all of that extra help and distractions.
hartzler92
Watch out for more turnovers!
Our corners and safties can be more agressive and play the pass as they dont have to worry about stopping the run as much…. leading to more INT’s
DID SOMEONE SAY CHAMPIONSHIP
Proof once again
That Kravitz had nothing better to write up than to come up with essentially comparing the Colts to the Pacers…. Sometimes I think he gets rushed for stories by the corporate drones at Gannett, and ends up writing some B.S. like this. (like saying, quick, write something in 45 minutes for tomorrows’ paper!) He’s had a few good, well thought articles, but others like this stick out bigtime.
As for Ed Johnson, glad he’s back— and good call— the Colts have DT depth go from “worst to first” in a matter of a couple of weeks! I knew Polian & Co. had something up their sleeve when Donald Brown was drafted in the 1st round.
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