Reasons to feel very good about the 2009 Colts
One of the annoying elements of the pension plan story is it has distracted us fans from the fact that this has been a very, VERY good off-season for the Colts in terms of bringing in new talent. It's too bad that the well paid but painfully misinformed media pundits at places like CBS Sports haven't picked up on this. From Don Banks, who is normally pretty good but, for some reason, today decided to leave his brain in his morning coffee:
Predicting the demise of the Colts would appear a fool's game, given their seven-year streak of making the playoffs and a six-year run of winning at least 12 games every regular season. But the law of averages say it has to end at some point for Indy (doesn't it?), and with new head coach Jim Caldwell elevated to replace the departed Tony Dungy, maybe some key component of the team's success will go missing this season for the first time since 2001.When they were sitting 3-4 entering November last season, the Colts looked like an aging team that finally had too many vulnerabilities for their all-world offense to overcome. Then Peyton Manning got healthy, and it all came together in the form of a nine-game winning streak entering the playoffs. This is a team that hasn't lost anyone it can't live without this offseason -- Marvin Harrison included -- but that might not be enough in a division where the Colts could find themselves looking up at both Tennessee and Houston.
It's funny how Banks states that saying the Colts will collapse in 2009 is foolish, and then goes on to say that the Colts will indeed collapse in 2009.
What Don leaves out of his "analysis" is all the injuries and bad luck the Colts experienced to start the season. Quinn Pitcock and Ed Johnson were gone. Ryan Lilja did not play at all in 2008. Tony Ugoh and Jeff Saturday started the year hurt. Kelvin Hayden got hurt early in the year while Marlin Jackson got hurt late. And so on and so worth.
Again, stuff one should know if they followed the Colts. For Banks, who likely only watches the Colts when they are on a prime time game, it's hard for him to know what he is talking about.
The fact is the 2008 Colts were one of the youngest teams in football, and the 2009 squad wil be even younger. So, anyone saying "the Colts looked like an aging team" simply doesn't know WTF they are talking about.
Gone are veteran mainstays like Marvin Harrison and Hunter Smith. They will likely be replaced by rookies. QB Peyton Manning is only 33 while Reggie Wayne (31), Dallas Clark (29), Dwight Freeney (29), Robert Mathis (27), and Bob Sanders (28) are just now hitting the prime of their careers.
Add to this the newly re-signed Ed Johnson (DT), Kelvin Hayden (CB), Tyjuan Hagler (LB), Freddy Keiaho (LB), and Matt Giordano (SS) it it seems the Colts defense will have some much needed depth in 2009. The Colts also added free agent LBer Adam Seward, a guy who can play two LBer positions in the Tampa-2, and retained promising young DTs Antonio "Mookie" Johnson and Daniel Muir.
Mookie Johnson (above) wears #99, just like Ed Johnson
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On offense, several free agent linemen were added, like Kyle DeVan and Brandon Barnes. Jeff Saturday was re-signed to anchor the line, and second year players Mike Pollak and Jamey Richard are poised to take the next step. There is also the Ryan Lilja factor. Lilja, when healthy, is one of the best guards in the AFC. He did not play at all in 2008, and his future seems in doubt. But, if he can indeed play, that adds even more beef and athleticism to the Colts o-line.
What will Kyle deVan add to the o-line in 2009?
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And then there are the rookies. RB Donald Brown is going to have an immediate impact both in the passing and running game. On defense, rookie DTs Fili Moala and Terrance Taylor were taken because they bring size and speed to a defense that had massive problems stopping the run in 2008. CB Jerraud Powers adds depth to an already VERY deep secondary (that set an NFL record for outstanding pass defense in 2008), and WR Austin Collie adds both slot receiver and punt returning abilities to a very potent offense.
Lastly, there is the return of important players from injury. CB Marlin Jackson and RB Mike Hart are on schedule and expected back. LBer Gary Brackett, the captain of the defense, was out all of December 2008 and the playoffs because of a broken leg. The leg is healed and he should be ready for camp. Joseph Addai should be back 100%, and Bob Sanders should be ready to return to his old BSBD self after having a full off-season to heal.
This man will return in 2009 to annoy the AFC South
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Basically, from a talent perspective, this is one of the most talented Colts teams we've seen of late. While Tony Dungy is gone, the simple truth is new coach Jim Caldwell has a lot to work with. This is a deep, young team that has no plans to simply fade away, despite what "averages" say.
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another point in the article
my question with Bank’s article is how he could justify to himself both adding the Texans to the playoff picture, taking the Colts out, but not once mentioning the Titans? I don’t know which football Bank’s was watching last year but the Colt’s have the reigning MVP at their QB position and from what I can gather, the Titans took a couple of steps backwards with the lose of their best defensive player. Never-mind the fact that if were going to talk ‘old’ teams the Titans have all of Kerry Collins, Jevon Kearse and Tory Holt leading their teams in some of the more prominent positions. Don Bank’s represents one of the main reasons why NFL rumour maker-uppers should go into hibernation before training camps or rather stick to the stories that we can all acknowledge have no relevance at all i.e. Brett Favre or who Tom Brady’s next child is going to come from….. P.S. I’ve been a long time reader but haven’t contributed much as I spend my time trying to convince my canadian friends of the beauty of the NFL. In this, BBS and all the other contributors to the site deserve a hardy pat on the back and an immense e amount of gratitude for producing and maintaining such a great site for our fantastic team… Great Job Guys! Keep it up! GO COLTS!
I agree
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With the amount of turnover in the NFL.......
the 2002 team the Colts fielded and the 2008 team only had 6 maybe 7 common players on the entire roster. i could have miscounted……did a quick lookover.
http://www.colts.com/downloads/2002releases/141/numer.pdf
2002 Colts roster
http://www.colts.com/downloads/2002releases/269/alpha.pdf
2008 Colts Roster
how can you compare the two teams in any way shape or form.
No kidding.
And how about the argument, the law of averages says it will happen eventually? lol..if that’s how it works then I guess every team wins a super bowl before they can win another again.
No doubt this team is deep.
The concerns come only from management changes, which seem to be quickly compounding. But from the perspective of players and health, we are looking very promising. I like our chances.
Whoops
Sorry about the Tory Holt reference, I know he’s on the Jags… I guess I can just argue the atrocity that is the titans receiving core…. Nate Washington, Justin Gage and Chris Davis…. I think I’d rather have Roy Hall Giguere and Smith above all of those guys…. regardless the Colts are great and that’s all that matters… GO COLTS!
What about this aging comment?
Aren’t the Colts, due to the fact that they routinely cut non-skill position players after their first 3-4 seasons (and replace them with rookies), perennially one of the youngest teams in the league? The Colts’ success has hinged upon one of the best personnel guys this league has ever seen, Bill Polian, whose money saving ways have led to 4 Super Bowl appearances by his teams. Yes, there are some front office issues, but Banks doesn’t even touch on how devastating it will be to lose Mudd, and perhaps Moore. Instead, he relies on a logic-less argument about how much losing Tony Dungy will affect the team, and how it has to eventually catch up with them (which, quite frankly, is a huge cop-out). I really like Dungy, but one of his biggest flaws was his lack of aggression, and I’m getting a feel from Caldwell and the new staff that this front office is VERY aggressive. It seems to be very interested in creating camp position battles, which will inevitably bring out the best in the team’s already talented players.
Also, I read through this snippet and I couldn’t find any reasons why the Colts will be worse. Banks did give plenty of reasons why they’ll be fine (“the didn’t lose anyone they can’t live without” and “Peyton Manning caught fire last year”). I think he just had three really good NFC teams and SI told him he had to come up with an even number of combined AFC/NFC teams so the article wouldn’t appear biased, and he threw the Colts in without really evaluating the talent or reviewing history. Law of averages…ha!
Honestly, I think the Titans, with a tougher schedule and playing without Haynesworth or any semblance of a good, reliable receiving corps would have been an ideal sixth team to plug in there instead of Indianapolis, but what do I know?
The fears about Dungy leaving make sense...
…only because guys like Caldwell, Christensen and Metzelaars aren’t proven commodities in their (possible) new positions. Regardless, it’s the long -term future rather than the short term that could validate guys like Don Banks and Matt Bowen. Dungy, Moore, Mudd are all great teachers. The guys who have learned from them are still on the roster. It’s the guys who haven’t been drafted yet that, if anything actually represents a great danger, we have cause to worry about, because they may not have Moore and Mudd, and won’t have Dungy, to coach them up.
That said, I’ve been impressed with Caldwell, Christensen has obviously garnered some respect outside West 56th, and I believe if Metzelaars was being groomed for the job by Mudd and Polian, he must be the right guy. I can’t help but keep remembering that in the season after Dungy left his last job, all his former players did was win a Super Bowl. Which is why this year, at least, we don’t need to be anxious about the bottom falling out, though I doubt the new coaches would be the cause of it in any case.
by CooperManningsNotTrying on May 8, 2009 5:34 PM EDT reply actions
It's just standard regression to the mean analysis
One of my mates, and someone who knows more about the NFL than me, does it every year regarding the Colts. He always says this is the season, but his only ever argument is “well it has to happen soon, so it’ll probably happen this year.”
I’m not saying it won’t happen, but you’d better have a better argument than that, and potential coaching issues are the only even remotely valid ones I’ve seen raised.
if that's your only logic you have to apply it to every team
you shouldn’t have any teams staying good unless they made massive upgrades to the team (which is hard to do if you are already good).
Half the game too lazy
still sleepin' on me
but I'm 'bout to wake 'em
-Lil' Wayne "Fireman"
see thats the problem…the media does give bill polian respect but usually after they say something nice about him they act like what he does has no bearing on the season after HIS signing and drafting…when in fact thats just the beginning and the reason why we stay younger and competitive year after year. it goes with irsay in hiring coaches too. its just not a replacement, its a groomed position. that IS why the colts keep winning. when we lose polian than I think the ship will start sinking
Bob Sanders
HIs old BSBD self…?
what am I missing?
Bob Sanders Bondage & Discipline?
Bob Sanders Badass and Deranged?
Bob Sanders Break and Destroy?
Bob Sanders Bindi and Dharma?
Bob Sanders Banzai Destroyer?
Bubbly & Delectable?
Bold Deathstar?
Braids and Dreds?
I’m close, aren’t I?
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
pet name for the cover 3, 8 in the box defense
Bob Sanders Beatdown Defense
Half the game too lazy
still sleepin' on me
but I'm 'bout to wake 'em
-Lil' Wayne "Fireman"
Ha!
I was wondering myself. Personally, I like Bubbly & Delectable.
Btw, BBS, LOVE the pic of Mookie squishing Sproles!
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on May 8, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Specious Logic
The fact of Don Banks picking the Colts to miss the playoffs doesn’t necessarily bother me. As LukeNukem said, Banks was probably given an assignment and followed through on that. Unfortunately sportswriting has become more about the reaction than actual analysis, so I have no idea whether Banks even really believes what he writes. That might explain his lack of any logic.
Still, that lack of logic is what truly bothers me. Let’s give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was told to pick three AFC teams to miss the playoffs. Given that situation, smart people can legitimately disagree about whether the Colts would be one of those three. But although he selected the Colts, Banks doesn’t give any legitimate reasons for doing so.
His first bit of evidence is the law of averages. The less said about this the better. Yes, regression to the mean is an observed phenomenon, but so is inertia. So is causality. Winning and losing in the NFL is not a matter of chance – to believe otherwise you’d have to believe that the Indianapolis and Detroit franchises are on par, and have an equal shot at winning the Super Bowl next year. (Yes, there are forces such as the draft, salary cap, etc. that serve to enforce parity, but Polian’s deft mastery of these forces is a large part of the Colts success over the past decade.) Saying that the Colts’ coin will come up tails this time just because it’s come up heads the past six times isn’t satisfactory; since this isn’t a matter of chance you must tell us why the coin will come up tails. (Even if winning were strictly a matter of chance, any mathematician would tell you that previous results have absolutely no bearing whatsoever on whether your next flip will be heads or tails.)
His next evidence is that the Colts looked old last year. I’ve wracked my brain and I can only think of two players who are legitimately in the second half of their careers, and that’s Manning and Saturday. Both are still playing at an All-Pro level. Marvin is no longer effective, but that’s been true for the past two years and we still made the playoffs each time. The comments prior to mine show that most of you are aware already that the Colts are actually one of the youngest teams in the league. For Banks to not know this is just lazy.
In fact, Banks’ also brings up the laziest argument of all, the departure of Tony Dungy. Caldwell replacing Dungy isn’t exactly like McDaniels replacing Shanahan. Caldwell has been coaching with this team for as long as Dungy. I honestly see this as a non-issue, and I know many Colts fans who are excited to see if Caldwell will bring a little fire and intensity that was missing with Dungy. Of far more pressing concern are the departures of Moore and Mudd, yet Banks’ doesn’t even mention these gentlemen once. Lazy.
Finally, we have the idea that the all-world offense had to cover up the rest of the team’s weaknesses. This is a lazy idea left over from at least several years ago, when we had to win every game 45-35. Anyone watching our team last year would have seen plenty of games where the defense had to bail out the offense, most notably against Houston and Cleveland. And certainly anyone who followed our team last year would hesitate to call our offense all-world. Start with the injuries to the line, add the injuries to Addai, come up with the 31st-ranked rushing attack, and “all-world” is a joke. Consider that the O-line should be largely healthy for this season, and that we just spent a first round pick on a RB, and our offense should only improve next year. But of course, if all you know about the Colts’ 2008 offense is that Peyton won the MVP award, then small wonder you still throw around terms like “all-world”. Again, lazy.
Again, I have no problem if someone genuinely picks the Colts to miss the playoffs, as long as they can adequately defend their position. Banks cannot. If a healthy QB, a new RB, and added depth on defense are enough for him to think that the Patriots will be back in the playoffs, then surely it should be enough for the Colts to remain in the playoffs (stronger division and all).
Right on!
There are no obvious reasons to say that we won’t make the playoffs. Even if we lose Mudd and Moore, which as you stated Banks didn’t even mention, we will fill those spots from within. It’s much smoother to move someone up from the ranks than to seek outside the organization. It works this way with any business. That is why I am not all that concerned about Caldwell. I’m sure he will make certian changes, bigger D at first thought, but like you said, he may bring some much needed fire to the organization. With Polian at the helm, we get players with the highest of work ethics. That has been true since his arrival, so our players know what is expected of them from the start. While it is true that at some point in time we will have to regress, I can’t see this being the year. 13-3 and a trip to the big show! Go Colts!
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