Report: Vikings may sign Marvin Harrison
John Oehser talks about a rumor swirling via TwinCities.com:
There’s buzz that the Vikings might sign ex-Colts wide receiver Marvin Harrison, 36, who is near the end of his career and has tender knees, to a one-year, low-end deal to provide competition for Sidney Rice.
Minnesota is likely going to bring Brett Favre out of retirement, which means Favre will have Bernard Berrian, Marvin Harrison, and Sydney Rice has his WRs... to go along with Adrian Peterson and Chester Taylor at RB.
If Harrison and Favre go to Minnesota, they will represent the NFC in the Super Bowl. You can pretty much hand them the NFC trophy.
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That would be a great place for Harrison to end up, but I just don’t see it working with Favre and Petersen on the same side of the ball, unless Favre does an about-face and becomes a solid, game-management style of QB like Ben R.
Still, that team would be Dangerous.
by clownsaw on Jun 25, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget about Percy Harvin either...
Hello Stampede Blue, Judging from this thread, you seem to be pretty stand up guys (girls)… The Colts have been one o fmy favorite AFC teams for years, mostly due to Tony Dungy and the overall awesomeness of your team. I find this fitting, because it’s scary how many people think that Indianapolis and Minneapolis are somehow the same city… Do you guys ever get that??
Anyway, I am one Vikings fan who is excited about the opportunity to have Marvin in purple. Come over to www.dailynorseman.com and give us the lowdown on Harrison. I’m under the impression that Marvin Harrison could be almost a “player coach” similar to what we hear Payton Manning is at the QB slot… Does he have the personality to help a younger receiver (Sidney Rice) along, or is he going to be a more selfish prima-donna type who will not add much more than his time on the field (kind of like Brett Favre in NY last year)…
Looking forward to seeing y’all in Miami this year, I’d love a Vikes-Colts Super Bowl!!
by ctowner35 on Jun 25, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly
Harrison is not the type to give some words of wisdom to the younger players, and I especially don’t think that will happen in a new environment like Minnesota. That’s not to say that Harrison is necessarily a selfish player, but that he tends to be a lone wolf and tends to himself. However, young Colts WR’s have always praised him in the past for leading by example, so he could a good influence in that regard. The point I’m trying to make is that even though Harrison has been with the Colts for 13 years, we the fans still don’t have a firm idea of how Harrison interacts with the other players. With that in mind, it would probably be unwise to rely on him for veteren leadership in a new setting with new people.
by Aerostar193 on Jun 25, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seconded
Marvin will not be a vocal leader, but will set a good example with his work ethic. He is, as Aerostar193 says, a loner. For years we in Indianapolis have endured announcers trying to make something of Marvin sitting alone at the end of the bench when something went wrong; i.e. “Oh look at Marvin sulking!” The truth is that Marvin often sits alone at the end of the bench no matter what the game situation.
by ctnyc on Jun 25, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre would be a minor upgrade at best
Here’s Favre, Tarvaris and Rosenfels ordered by overall QB stats.
DVOA: Tarvaris, Rosenfels, Favre
ANY/A Tarvaris, Rosenfels, Favre
QB Rating Tarvaris, Favre, Rosenfels
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by shake n bake on Jun 25, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Stats are for losers
Shake, now rank them by (1) swagger, (2) grit, (3) CHFF’s trademarked Gunslingability Index, and (4) just havin’ fun out there.
I’m no Favre lover, but I do respect his body of work (up to about last year). I guess is marvin has to catch passes from anybody, might as well be in a dome from him. With AP drawing 9 into the box….
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by Bobman on Jun 26, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget alphabetical order.
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Random facts of the week from the empty void that is my mind: I'm going to be going to Missouri (where there is no Internet or computers) for 2 weeks starting Monday, so I've got 3 of these for you.
1. You may have noticed before, but I love Scrubs. A lot. No seriously, I'm addicted to it, and here's why with this thrown in.
2. When you put thermite and blocks of ice together, you get a big boom. Nobody really knows why.
3. The Colts' (Indy and Baltimore's) all-time franchise record is 438-428-8. So, the Colts' just recently (2007 season) broke .500. That really tells you how bad the Colts were before Peyton.
by Cassieper on Jun 27, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“If Harrison and Favre go to Minnesota, they will represent the NFC in the Super Bowl. You can pretty much hand them the NFC trophy”
I hope that comment was more about getting people to respond to the post rather than your actual opinion.
by ColtsFanNChiTown on Jun 25, 2009 1:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They would have a good shot at it, just because the Vikings have been REALLY good the past few years, so it makes sense that adding a decent QB would take them to the next level, and adding a walk in HOF Wideout would help it even more.
So, if they get Favre and Harrison, they’d be stacked, but Favre is exactly the wrong kind of QB that they need for their system. But like I said, they’d still be dangerous, at least until they get to the playoffs and Marvin decides to takes a vacation.
by clownsaw on Jun 25, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe it
Prior to tearing his bicep last year, Brett Favre was an MVP candidate. The Jets had a bad defense, which forced an aged Favre to throw more than he should have. Result: Torn bicep and a 1-3 December.
In Minnesota, he’d have a great WR corps, an AMAZING running game, and stellar defense.
And Favre, at 40, is still a major upgrade over Jackson (who stinks) and Rosenfels (who still can’t remember his middle name since Dwight Freeney hit him last October in the Rosenchoppa game).
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by BigBlueShoe on Jun 25, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was a torn tendon, not the muscle
that’s a sizable difference.
Also none of the stories I looked at would be specific about when it happened. They said he complained of pain “in recent weeks” in the stories that came out right after week 17. Even before his collapse in the last 5 games he was throwing over a pick a game and had 9 of his 10 fumbles.
Favre was very good for a very long time, but he isn’t anymore. He’s had one good year and 3 below average (league ave. not just Favre’s) years of the last 4
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by shake n bake on Jun 25, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bad defense?
The defense was a major reason the Jets got out to that 8-3 record. Jenkins specifically was a real difference maker. Then Jenkins wore down and the whole team went south.
Favre’s shoulder/bicep thing is nothing more than an excuse for his poor play. Every doctor has said it didn’t affect his throwing at all. Simply put, he had to do more than dink and dunk and he wasn’t good enough to win games himself. When they were a more balanced team, he never threw more than ten yards downfield, was patient, and did well.
I feel like I’ve said this fifteen times on here.
Putting him on the Vikings doesn’t make them any better than they would be with Rosenfels. They’re a serious threat either way and it has absolutely nothing to do with the QB.
by willyduer on Jun 25, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Jun 25, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about "bad" defense
but certainly not “good.” Going by yards, the Jets had the 29th-ranked pass D in the league. Their rush D was good — 7th in the league in yards allowed (perhaps because teams realized you could throw all day on the Jets?). And in the all-important scoring D, the Jets were 18th. Not horrible but, but when you are in the bottom half of the league, by definition you are mediocre at best.
I never bought the Super Bowl hype that announcers were throwing around when the Jets were 8-3, but living in NY I watched a lot of Jets games. The bottom line: Favre made a positive impact. Defenses felt they had to respect the deep ball. Whether we agree or not, that’s how the opposing defenses played. They didn’t have to play like that against Pennington. Look what Thomas Jones did: 1300 yds rushing, 15 total TDs, and the highest YPC in his career as a starter. In short, a career year. Improved O-Line play certainly helped, but it’s not like Jones was playing behind horrible lines his entire career. No way he does that if Favre doesn’t spread out the defense.
I’m no Favre shill, but too often I see these arguments painted in black and white. Favre was either a savior until he got hurt, or a bum who lucked into a good situation and was ultimately exposed to be a fraud. I think the reality is somwhere in between.
by ctnyc on Jun 25, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
He was neither the reason they blew it nor the reason they were 8-3. Not a savior or a bum. He was decent. Had one exceptional game and a couple of bad ones. I think many people like me overdo the argument just because we get sick of the hero worship. I don’t think he’s terrible. I just think he’s nowhere near as good as everyone says he is. Realistically, he isn’t a huge difference maker anymore. The Vikings would be perfectly fine without him.
It’s a shame, though, because I kind of like that team now and if he joins them I’ll have to root against them. Especially in the games vs the Packers.
by willyduer on Jun 25, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre needs to go away.
And why would Harrison sign some low dollar deal for a year there and not in Indy?
But I think that there’s alot of competition in the NFC this year. Giants, Philly, Carolina, Arizona and MN…I wouldn’t go crowning the Vikes quite yet.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Jun 25, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You promise?
If Harrison and Favre go to Minnesota, they will represent the NFC in the Super Bowl. You can pretty much hand them the NFC trophy.
As a Vikings fan, I’d be OK with that. I’d take my chances at 0-5 in Super Bowls. :)
by ericj69 on Jun 25, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
IMO
They become the favorite. How could they not? Who is better? Giants? Eagles? Certainly not the Cards (one year wonder).
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by BigBlueShoe on Jun 25, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they'll win the division
but I do think the Giants and Eagles are clearly better.
They might even get a 1st round bye since NYG and PHI will beat up on eachother for two games, but I think they’re #3 in the (JV) NFC.
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by shake n bake on Jun 25, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don’t forget carolina (who didn’t lose any major pieces) and seattle. everybody’s sleeping on seattle but they were DESTROYED by injuries last year. they lost hasselbeck and his very servicible backup (seneca wallace.) they were down to their 100th and 101st string receivers, bringing in guys that made craphonso and moorehead look like legitimate starters. they lost their stud pash rusher kerney, and julian peterson mailed the year in… i wouldn’t be shocked if seattle contended for a bye this year IF they’re healthy, considering the awful division they play in…
by saintnixon on Jun 25, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally forgot about Carolina
they are going really pound it on the ground and Delhomme’s unfortunate playoff meltdown was the exception not the norm last season.
Vikings bumped to #4 in my NFC rankings
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And what it look like hun', I ain't never made it rain but it look like fun
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by shake n bake on Jun 25, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still say
Giants, Philly, Carolina, Arizona and MN.
I know everyone thinks that Arizona was a fluke last year. But as long as they have Fitz and Boldin they are worth looking at.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Jun 25, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
regarding AZ - a couple of concerns
1) will they be able to fabricate the same kind of pass rush without pendergast as DC?
2) will warner stay healthy?
3) will they ANY kind of rushing attack at all? (don’t forget edge really turned it up a notch last year in the playoffs.)
by saintnixon on Jun 25, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Warner
I think he is going to go down with an injury this year (just a hunch) and they will struggle a lot since Leinart is so terrible.
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by AceOfSpades on Jun 25, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre averaged 10.1 yards per completion (or 10.3 in the first 11 games if you prefer to cut out his 5 of his 6 worst games of the season)
That’s 07 Pennington level dink and dunk, and he was STILL throwing 22 picks in 16 games (or 12 picks in 11 games).
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And what it look like hun', I ain't never made it rain but it look like fun
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by shake n bake on Jun 25, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yep
He really only had a couple of deep completions all season. Schottenheimer neutered him and ran a short passing ball control offense, which when combined with the D doing its job, worked very well. He dinked and dunked with more velocity, that’s for sure, but it was still a very conservative offense.
by willyduer on Jun 25, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not sure i agree...
that they would represent the NFC in the super bowl based off those signings. but hey, everyone has their own opinion.
i just don’t see harrison taking a one year, low end deal to play there. didn’t we offer him a more than 1 year at a lower end deal?
colts have a better chance to get to the SB than the vikes and obvioulsy his production would be better with manning. so if he can’t get the money he wants, i don’t think he plays.
or he comes back to the colts for a low-end deal (although that is probably not an option anymore).
by Matic on Jun 25, 2009 3:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Please don't make me say it...
As a die-hard Colts fan I’m going to have a hard time getting my fingers to type this, but here goes:
Guys I think Marvin’s done.
He may have another low-production year or two in him but I think the time when he could have made a difference big enough to determine whether or not a team is going to be conference champion has passed.
Now leave me alone I just made myself cry…
by peytonsurdaddy on Jun 25, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
False alarm...
Those tears were not a result of me being a pansy, rather an unfortunate side-effect of my having torn a ligament in my tear-duct.
Hey, if it works for Favre…
by peytonsurdaddy on Jun 25, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre was very good last year
Until his injury. The team wasn’t great and he was forced to shoulder way more than a 39 year old QB should. He could be very effective if presented with the right situation.
by MasterRWayne on Jun 25, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And the year before
In case everyone forgot what he did with the Packers in his last season there (forgetting his last pass ever as a Packer, of course).
‘And the wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terrible teeth and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws’.
by SippyCup on Jun 25, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre's problem
Favre’s problem is he has let the media and fan perception of him spin out of control. I watched virtually every game last year with Favre and what I saw was a still-god but old QB trying to help a very flawed Jets team. They were 4-12 without Favre the year before and 9-7 with him (8-3 when he was healthy). And, as you noted, in 2007 Favre was magnificent.
While many here, and elsewhere, just want Brett Favre to go away, the fact of the matter is if (and it is a big IF) he is healthy, he is a top tier QB. Even at 40. Top tier. Give him Marvin, AP, and that defense (coached by Leslie Frazier BTW), then they become the favorite in the NFC.
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by BigBlueShoe on Jun 25, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
marvin is washed up. rice is mediocre. berrian isn’t good for anything but the deep fly route. brett, even at his best, makes terrible decisions and turns the ball over way too often for a ball-control team like minnesota. they’d be better off with jeff garcia.
by saintnixon on Jun 25, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jackson had a higher QB rating in his 9 games
than Favre had in his 11 before his meltdown.
I think QB Rating isn’t a very good stat (ANY/A is superior in all respects except for extent of usage), but still his QB Rating for those 11 games is his main selling point (plus Tarvaris and Rosenfels both had better ANY/A and DVOA)
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by shake n bake on Jun 25, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would also sugges that tavaris has three other huge advantages over favre: 1) extensive familiarity with the system – even if favre has great familiarity with the west coast offense he still has to learn all new verbiage, etc., 2) his price-tag, and 3) the lack of a media circus following his every move/the team.
by saintnixon on Jun 25, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is a shocking statistic. I only saw a little bit of Jackson and really only remember the Colts game, in which he was useless. That he started making progress is kind of unfortunate, given that he’s going to end up cut if they sign Favre.
by willyduer on Jun 25, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he just couldn't complete his passes in the first two games, wasn't turning it over, was throwing deep enough, just awful comp%
so they benched him, when he came back into the lineup at the end of the year he was over 60% completion for each of the last 5 games, with all the other good things he had been doing still in place.
5 games is a small sample, but I think he deserves first crack at the starting job this year.
Change these hundreds for me cashier, Cuz I ain't made it yet, but I'm better off than last year
And what it look like hun', I ain't never made it rain but it look like fun
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by shake n bake on Jun 25, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So lets recap Shakes talent evaulation here...
1. Lets draft a WR! WR is the biggest need for the Colts! (fail)
2. Addai is great! (Not true. Addai is good, but gets hurt too much. Colts draft Donald Brown because they realize that)
3. Orvlosky is a terrible QB (not true. Orvlosky actually showed a lot of promise for a young QB. Orvlosky had 8 TD’s and 8 INT’s in 7 games for the Lions. Rosenfels had 6 TD’s and 10 INT’s. Again its worth pointing out that Orvlosky played for the Lions and Rosenfels for a legitimate Texans team)
4. Tavaris Jackson is better than Brett Favre! (I am not even going to comment on this one)
5. Sage Rosenfels is better than Brett Favre (My head is seriously hurting)
Bottom line, your talent evaluation needs some serious work. You have been consistently wrong.
by MasterRWayne on Jun 25, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Getting more than a little sick
of your constant need to bash shakenbake as a person. I’ll drop it now before I say anything stronger.
by coltsfanawalt on Jun 25, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
way to go billy
this post of your’s is a borderline-irrelevant cheap shot and it’s made everyone participating in the thread dumber.
you disagree with my (and shake’s) position? how about some analysis? not just a blurb about td-int ratios and a bunch of opinions – opinions that do not, by the way, have any bearing on the discussion at hand. let me provide you with some examples…
1. had there been talent commensurate to that of donald brown in this draft at the wide receiver position, the colts would have been perfectly wise to draft said WR. reggie wayne is over thirty years old, (i.e. about to be on the decline,) and beyond wayne and gonzalez the colts have zero proven talent at the position. moreover the colts offense has been at its most potent when the colts had three elite receiving threats and two good tight ends.
2. many good-to-great nfl players have struggled with injuries early in their careers only to go on and become noteworthy contributors. see faulk, marshall; taylor, fred; holmes, priest; portis, clinton; etc. you’ll notice not all of those guys are first rounds picks. addai has shown that when utilized properly, (behind a healthy o-line,) he can be a great addition to this squad. polian always drafts for value in the first round. period. had sanchez fallen to us we probably would have drafted him despite the fact that we have ZERO need for a first round qb. the fact that the colts drafted donald brown says nothing more than “donald brown was the best player available when the colts’ pick arrived.” if crabtree or maclin was there i’d bet you dollars to donuts that the colts would have drafted a WR. this draft was deeper at RB than WR. great. i love donald brown and i can’t wait to see him. if the reverse were true i’d be perfectly happy with a first round WR as well.
moreover i fail to see the value in undermining the credentials of a fellow site editor. what message are you trying to send to first-time visitors? it seems to me your message is “disagree with me and i’ll attack you with an off-topic and ad hominem post.” save your stupid pissing contest for the fourth grade playground. the internet is already home to enough moronic behavior, it doesn’t need your contribution, trust me.
by saintnixon on Jun 25, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you are going to whine about my opinions you should at least get them right
1. I had one WR in my top 5 of players who could fall to 27. I never said WR was the biggest need. Not even close.
2. Addai can be great in a limit carries role. He does need to split time.
3. Rosenfels had nothing to do with the Orlosky argument so that’s a better pointless comparison. Also you left out that the sub-par 1:1 INT:TD ratio came with 56% comp throwing average depth routes (11.3YPC).
4/5. Brett Favre isn’t Brett Favre! anymore, he’s going to be 40, he’s had one good season in the last 4 years plus is coming off surgery and would have to learn another new offense. I pointed out that both of the Vikings current players had better numbers, but I also said Favre could be a minor upgrade. I don’t think they could pay big bucks for a media whore QB who isn’t likely to give them much (if anything) more than they could get from the QBs currently on their roster.
You should get my positions right or else it’ll look like you are just out to smear me personally.
Change these hundreds for me cashier, Cuz I ain't made it yet, but I'm better off than last year
And what it look like hun', I ain't never made it rain but it look like fun
-Drake, Still Drake
by shake n bake on Jun 25, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"You have been consistently wrong."
2 through 5 are opinion, all of which have been debated on both sides and will need the upcoming season to decide them. Your opinions are not facts. My opinions are not facts. Opinions are not Facts. If you support your argument “Shake doesn’t know talent from a hole in the ground” on premises that aren’t widely accepted to be true (#s 2-5) then your argument will fail.
1. Totally misrepresents what I thought about the draft, but I was wrong about Donald Brown being off Indy’s radar (though a quick search also tell me you never said his name on this site until after the pick so can’t really chalk that up as a victory).
Change these hundreds for me cashier, Cuz I ain't made it yet, but I'm better off than last year
And what it look like hun', I ain't never made it rain but it look like fun
-Drake, Still Drake
by shake n bake on Jun 25, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you support your argument on premises that aren’t widely accepted to be true then your argument will fail.
I drew a comic

I’m good at art
Change these hundreds for me cashier, Cuz I ain't made it yet, but I'm better off than last year
And what it look like hun', I ain't never made it rain but it look like fun
-Drake, Still Drake
by shake n bake on Jun 26, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
out of focus--reshoot please
I get the gist, but cannot read it.
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
by Bobman on Jun 26, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't think I can do clearer on my laptop's camera
I’ll scan it tomorrow if people like it enough.
Change these hundreds for me cashier, Cuz I ain't made it yet, but I'm better off than last year
And what it look like hun', I ain't never made it rain but it look like fun
-Drake, Still Drake
by shake n bake on Jun 26, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I second you scanning that and posting it here.
Gotta love the stick figures :-)
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Random facts of the week from the empty void that is my mind: I'm going to be going to Missouri (where there is no Internet or computers) for 2 weeks starting Monday, so I've got 3 of these for you.
1. You may have noticed before, but I love Scrubs. A lot. No seriously, I'm addicted to it, and here's why with this thrown in.
2. When you put thermite and blocks of ice together, you get a big boom. Nobody really knows why.
3. The Colts' (Indy and Baltimore's) all-time franchise record is 438-428-8. So, the Colts' just recently (2007 season) broke .500. That really tells you how bad the Colts were before Peyton.
by Cassieper on Jun 27, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you got it
I think the medium of oversized novelty pen on anthro worksheet really suits me.
Change these hundreds for me cashier, Cuz I ain't made it yet, but I'm better off than last year
And what it look like hun', I ain't never made it rain but it look like fun
-Drake, Still Drake
by shake n bake on Jun 27, 2009 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and here it is

Change these hundreds for me cashier, Cuz I ain't made it yet, but I'm better off than last year
And what it look like hun', I ain't never made it rain but it look like fun
-Drake, Still Drake
by shake n bake on Jun 27, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it.
Nice job summing it all up in artistic and funny form. Just one question: In the bottom left panel there is something written above the cracked “premise” foundation next to a black square. What is that?
by Cassieper on Jun 27, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*rumble*
and thanks, I never thought anything I drew could be described as artistic.
Change these hundreds for me cashier, Cuz I ain't made it yet, but I'm better off than last year
And what it look like hun', I ain't never made it rain but it look like fun
-Drake, Still Drake
by shake n bake on Jun 28, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no wait
the one you were talking about by the cracked premise says * crack *
Change these hundreds for me cashier, Cuz I ain't made it yet, but I'm better off than last year
And what it look like hun', I ain't never made it rain but it look like fun
-Drake, Still Drake
by shake n bake on Jun 28, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vikings
I think the Giants and the Eagles will be the teams to beat this season. I am still rooting for Manning vs Manning in the Super Bowl
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me."
by AceOfSpades on Jun 25, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
but i’d add carolina in there as well.
in the afc i think it’s the usual suspects… (ne, indy, pitt.)
by saintnixon on Jun 25, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus Keyser Soze
(sorry, trying to lighten things up. I happen to agree)
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
by Bobman on Jun 26, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I called the Vikes to win their division last season.
Some disagreed with me then. Here is this year’s prediction.
The Bears will win the division this season. And depending on how well the Pack learns the new 3-4, the Vikes will probably have to fight to do better than third in their division. I think the Vikings are very good, and I love Adrian Peterson, but the black and blue division is back this year, my friends. Even Detroit will improve (now that’s bold, eh? =p).
Before any Vikings fan gets mad at that, I am merely complimenting the strength of this division.
The Packers were ridiculously injured last year, and we Colts fans know how that affects the season. The Packers and the Bears both have great QBs leading their teams now, and the Vikings may be last in that category even behind Detroit. But Minnesota has the best RB in the league.
It will be an interesting year in the NFC North.
by coltsfanawalt on Jun 25, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not so fast...
I really don’t see the Bears being able to do it this year…
Jay Cutler was a sexy addition, but I don’t see him as being that big of an upgrade at QB, especially with no real proven receivers on the roster and question marks on the line. I know he has two good pass-catching TE’s and a versitile RB, but a lot of their key players are gettting by on reputation… Orlando Pace and Brian Urlacher pop into my head there… Their Defense is getting older, and their secondary is suspect… I’m not saying that they’ll suck up the joint, I’m expecting the NFC North to be a fairly competitive division this season, especially with the Bears and the Vikings.
Green Bay is learning a new Defensive scheme in which they do not really have all of the correct pieces to make it work; combine that with two aging corners and I see more problems for Green Bay defensively this year…
The Vikings are on the brink of signing a past-his-prime All-Universe quarterback who, if anybody remembers was a Pro-Bowler last year… Now, I can’t use the reputation card on one team and not pull it out on another; Brett Favre is getting by on reputation, but is still an upgrade, especially when you take into account the other pieces: Adrian Peterson means that Favre will have to throw the ball a lot less than before, and when he does, it will hopefully be in play action a lot (you guys never see that here… j/k) which will free up our receivers. Right now, Tarvaris Jackson has a hard enough time reading defenses without turning his back to the line of scrimmage… He’ll be playin in the Dome, and will have really only one really bad weather game (Late December in Chicago, kind of a biggy)… He also has a big pass catching TE in Visanthe Shankoe who really blossomed last year, and for dinking and dunking, as well as all sorts of gadget opportunities in Percy Harvin and Chester Taylor…
Couple that with a Lock-Down Defense and the Vikings may be the scariest team to face in the NFL right now…
Give Brett 1-2 years (probably 1) and then we hand a team that knows how to win over to Sage and/or TJack and we start a dynasty!!! (insert fiendish laughter)
Sorry, just a Vikings homer’s perspective…
by ctowner35 on Jun 26, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I appreciate your perspective.
And I like the Vikings, picked them last year and defended that to the critics. I just think the NFC North will be a lot tougher this year than many are realizing. I live in Northwest Indiana (aka Bears country) and grew up in Michigan during my teen years. I was a huge Favre fan (my son is named Brett) until his nasty divorce with GB, so I followed them closely. I have always followed that division closely. And I love Peterson, have had him on my fantasy squad the past two years now.
I would be careful not to underestimate the Bears. They have had a solid defense that has suffered a bit as of late because their offense could not stay on the field. The offense is looking solid. Matt Forte is the real deal. Many of us wanted him to be drafted by the Colts, and he is beginning to validate our favor. He is a three down back who does it all well. Mark it down, despite all the Cutler buzz, Forte is the most important piece of the offense. And K. Jones isn’t too shabby of a backup, either. Good tight ends in Olsen and Clark.
Don’t underestimate Cutler. I don’t much like some things about his attitude, but he is good. He made Brandon Marshall, not vice versa. And when Marshall was down, he made rookie Eddie Royal look pretty good. Cutler hooked up very well with Earl Bennett in college, and they are now reunited (along with OT Chris Williams, btw). Bennett was more highly touted coming into the draft than Brandon Marshall was, if you recall.Cutler has promised Chicago that they will love Bennett’s production this year, and I believe him. Cutler is the first real QB that the Bears have had since, well, forever.
Devin Hester will surprise at WR. By the end of last year, he had learned how to run amazing routes (remember he came into the NFL as a CB), but Orton couldn’t hit him when he had gotten wide open by running good routes and pure speed combined. Hester still made some nice adjustments and catches a couple times. Cutler will have no trouble taking advantage of Hester’s play. Hester and Bennett will soar in production this year.
Add in Olsen and an amazing Forte, and this team is finally offensively looking very good. The defense will not have to play forever or win games themselves, and they will be even more of a force.
Now let’s mention one of the best special teams units out there. Besides two great returners and tight return coverage, they have a tremendous young kicker in Gould. This is a team that won field position battles despite an inept offense. Watch out this season.
I think the Bears will surprise everyone this year. They made couple great coaching decisions this offseason, with Lovie getting more involved in the defensive calls and the hiring of Marinelli on the DL. They are set, barring freak injuries, for an amazing year. We will see what happens, but I would expect that they’ll finish on top of a very tough division. Again, we’ll see.
by coltsfanawalt on Jun 26, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
srsly???
You don’t think Cutler’s a HUGE upgrade? Because he is.
The fact he’s got absolutely nobody to throw to is the big issue, of course. Tom Brady and Belicheck could probably make that offense work but whilst Cutler’s a good player, he’s no Tom Brady and Chicago doesn’t have the offensive schemes that New England do.
by eltharion_doa on Jun 26, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Even Detroit will improve."
Does anybody know the record for most consecutive losses? My guess is that it was set by the expansion Tampa Bay team from the ’80s. Detroit should be getting close to it by now.
Now a proud annoyance on Stampede Blue, 18to88, Indy Football Report, and Phil B's blog.
Man, I need a life...
Random facts of the week from the empty void that is my mind: I'm going to be going to Missouri (where there is no Internet or computers) for 2 weeks starting Monday, so I've got 3 of these for you.
1. You may have noticed before, but I love Scrubs. A lot. No seriously, I'm addicted to it, and here's why with this thrown in.
2. When you put thermite and blocks of ice together, you get a big boom. Nobody really knows why.
3. The Colts' (Indy and Baltimore's) all-time franchise record is 438-428-8. So, the Colts' just recently (2007 season) broke .500. That really tells you how bad the Colts were before Peyton.
by Cassieper on Jun 27, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre will break down
If Favre goes to the Vikings, I see him breaking down before the season is over. I don’t think his body could take the punishment all the way through January. Look for Sage to bail them out and become the next Tom Brady…….
…. or not.
by hoosierdore on Jun 25, 2009 11:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They do show some resemblence to each other...

Now a proud annoyance on Stampede Blue, 18to88, Indy Football Report, and Phil B's blog.
Man, I need a life...
Random facts of the week from the empty void that is my mind: I'm going to be going to Missouri (where there is no Internet or computers) for 2 weeks starting Monday, so I've got 3 of these for you.
1. You may have noticed before, but I love Scrubs. A lot. No seriously, I'm addicted to it, and here's why with this thrown in.
2. When you put thermite and blocks of ice together, you get a big boom. Nobody really knows why.
3. The Colts' (Indy and Baltimore's) all-time franchise record is 438-428-8. So, the Colts' just recently (2007 season) broke .500. That really tells you how bad the Colts were before Peyton.
by Cassieper on Jun 27, 2009 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome.
New wallpaper. heh heh heh
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Jun 29, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
harrison and favre
vikings already have a good defense.. and if we get favre and harrison we will have a power offense… AP had over a 1000 rush yards last season with a crappy QB what do you think he will have with favre… the difference in the qb situation is favre has more experience then the others… he will not break down like the other qbs will and have… this year we will have some of the highest scoring games with some low scoring opponents you watch
by kingvike22 on Jun 27, 2009 3:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Eh
Even the biggest Colts homers will tell you that Marvin isn’t close to the Marvin of old. Both Harrison and Favre are over the hill. Favre is closer to being his old gunslingin’ self, but Marvin doesn’t have the explosiveness that he used to have at all. If you are looking for a solid possession receiver that won’t drop too many balls, then Marvin will work out. But if you are looking for Favre to Harrison for 50+ and a touchdown more than zero times, I don’t see it happening.
In summary, I think the media is building Favre into some kind of bionic man superhero just like last year and he will likely not reach the overhyped expectations. BUT he is still better than Sage and Tavaris so they should go for it.
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me."
by AceOfSpades on Jun 30, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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