Post Minicamp Roster Prediction

by Colts Homer on Jun 9, 2009 11:16 PM EDT Comment 29 comments

I haven't done a roster prediction in a while, and there is no better time than after minicamp. This will be tough, especially for the D-line. It is in order by depth chart as always and I'm including numbers too. There will be a lot of changes because of rookies and signings. This team won't be too similar to the team last year, but it will be much better. The defensive tackles are so deep, and there are too many corners to handle.

QB
18 Peyton Manning
12 Jim Sorgi

RB
29 Joseph Addai
31 Donald Brown
27 Lance Ball

WR
87 Reggie Wayne
11 Anthony Gonzalez
85 Pierre Garcon
17 Austin Collie
81 Roy Hall

TE
44 Dallas Clark
86 Tom Santi
47 Gijon Robinson
84 Jacob Tamme

LT
67 Tony Ugoh
74 Charlie Johnson

LG
65 Ryan Lilja
61 Jamey Richard

C
63 Jeff Saturday
53 Steve Justice

RG
78 Mike Pollak
64 Cornelius Lewis

RT
71 Ryan Diem
76 Dan Federkeil

LE
93 Dwight Freeney
92 Marcus Howard
94 Curtis Johnson

UT
95 Fili Moala
68 Eric Foster
64 Adrian Grady

NT
66 Ed Johnson
62 Terrance Taylor
99 Antonio Johnson

RE
79 Raheem Brock
98 Robert Mathis

SAM
50 Philip Wheeler
56 Tyjuan Hagler

MIKE
58 Gary Brackett
52 Adam Seward

WILL
55 Clint Session
54 Freddie Keiaho

CB
28 Marlin Jackson
26 Kelvin Hayden
34 TJ Rushing
23 Tim Jennings
49 Jerraud Powers

FS
41 Antoine Bethea
43 Matt Giordano

SS
21 Bob Sanders
33 Melvin Bullitt

K
4 Adam Vinatieri

P
1 Pat McAfee

LS
48 Justin Snow

PUP List
32 Michael Hart

Practice Squad
QB Curtis Painter
WR Sam Giguere
WR John Matthews
OL Jaimie Thomas
OL Brandon Barnes
DL Pat Kuntz
LB Mike Tauiliili
DB Brandon Foster

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I really don't believe Keyunta Dawson is getting cut

but besides that I’m with you.

I don’t buy that a guy who’s started 18 games in his first two seasons is getting pushed totally off the roster in favor of 3 guys who haven’t played a down in the league and a guy Dawson played over last year.

Change these hundreds for me cashier, Cuz I ain't made it yet, but I'm better off than last year
And what it look like hun', I ain't never made it rain but it look like fun
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by shake n bake on Jun 9, 2009 11:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I would agree, but

Nobody’s guaranteed a spot. If Dawson just isn’t as good as the other DTs, he’ll get cut. I gotta be honest, I always saw him as a starter of necessity, not talent. I mean, Hagler was a starter for a season too, does that mean Wheeler won’t be given a shot at the starting spot?

by slash196 on Jun 10, 2009 3:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dawson

Will likely take Thomas’ spot as the other run stopping DE.

LE – Freeney, Dawson, Howard
RD – Mathis, Brock, Johnson

by bamock on Jun 10, 2009 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

“Hagler was a starter for a season too, does that mean Wheeler won’t be given a shot at the starting spot?”

No but I think it’s a pretty good bet the Hagler is making the roster (which is what I was saying about Dawson).

Change these hundreds for me cashier, Cuz I ain't made it yet, but I'm better off than last year
And what it look like hun', I ain't never made it rain but it look like fun
-Drake, Still Drake

by shake n bake on Jun 10, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

When Hart comes off PUP,

who do you predict gets knocked off the roster?

by coltsfanawalt on Jun 10, 2009 12:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I'd guess a lineman

10 OL +2 on the PS
12 DL +1 on the PS.

That’s a lot.

Change these hundreds for me cashier, Cuz I ain't made it yet, but I'm better off than last year
And what it look like hun', I ain't never made it rain but it look like fun
-Drake, Still Drake

by shake n bake on Jun 10, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Silva

Sadly, I agree that Hughes and Coe will not make the cut, but I’m not convinced as far as Jamie Silva goes. With Darrell Reid gone, I have a feeling the coaches are scrutinizing special teams abilities even more than ever. With that in mind, letting Grady or Lewis sit on the bench for most of the year doesn’t make any sense when they could easily have an above average special teams player like Silva on the team.

by Aerostar193 on Jun 10, 2009 1:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hughes

I think if he is given a chance to play more man coverage, either with the Colts or another team, he will succeed. I can see him joining another team and playing at a high level.

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by AceOfSpades on Jun 10, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

IMO-

Jaimie Thomas has a good chance of making the game-day roster, and that Hall probably won’t. I agree that Lewis is a keeper, but he isn’t better or more promising than Thomas.
I also think it’s too early to give up on Hughes, and that Silva and Jordan Senn should make at least the practice squad, while Matthews, Barnes, and Brandon Foster will not.
They won’t cut Senn loose and keep Tauilili.

by HoosierHorseman on Jun 10, 2009 8:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh, and I think they'll keep Daniel Muir before they do Kuntz

unless he really lights it up in training camp.
Muir has prototypical size for a NT, and we aren’t short of small, fast UT types like Kuntz

by HoosierHorseman on Jun 10, 2009 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think Senn is eligible for the PS

If I remember right guys can’t be on the PS if they’ve been on the active roster for 8+ weeks in one season.

Change these hundreds for me cashier, Cuz I ain't made it yet, but I'm better off than last year
And what it look like hun', I ain't never made it rain but it look like fun
-Drake, Still Drake

by shake n bake on Jun 10, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh,Thanks Shake.

I didn’t know that.

by HoosierHorseman on Jun 10, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

looked it up

it’s 6 games.

Change these hundreds for me cashier, Cuz I ain't made it yet, but I'm better off than last year
And what it look like hun', I ain't never made it rain but it look like fun
-Drake, Still Drake

by shake n bake on Jun 10, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They must have lowered it

I know it was 8 last year. They are definitely making the PS a place for UDFAs to grow.

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by Colts Homer on Jun 10, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

6 is an "accrued NFL season"

from what I found, and players with one of those can’t be on the PS.

I could be wrong, I just googled it instead of looking through the CBA.

Change these hundreds for me cashier, Cuz I ain't made it yet, but I'm better off than last year
And what it look like hun', I ain't never made it rain but it look like fun
-Drake, Still Drake

by shake n bake on Jun 10, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Hughes has a chance to beat out Rushing at CB

We have to see how well Rushing and Marlin play comming of major injuries.

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by colts9318rock on Jun 10, 2009 8:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

DT, Under Tackle, Nose Tackle?

What’s the real differences between an Under Tackle and just a Defensive Tackle? The nose sits directly over the center and is responsible for trying to penetrate and forcing two defenders to block him right?

Under tackles have a one gap assignment and are typically lined up on the left shoulder of center and left should of right guard?

Is this right or is there more to it, or am I way off base?

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by stuart0908 on Jun 10, 2009 9:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That's pretty close

To boil it down to general terms, nose tackle is a space eater. Under tackle is a player who penetrates the o-line via the one gap.

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by BigBlueShoe on Jun 10, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tim Jennings

Great article, I love to see roster predictions for different teams, especially now that we are in the full swing of the offseason.

One suggestion though, I really think that Tim Jennings played well last season (other than a few bone headed plays). I think they will want to get him on the field as much as possible, and that probably means ahead of TJ Rushing, who has been injured.

Former New Orleans Saints RB George Rogers
"I want to rush for 1,000 or 1,500 yards, whichever comes first"

by stuart0908 on Jun 10, 2009 9:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm sure T-Jen gets a spot

He really played great last season, made a couple fine picks. He’s built to play the nickel.

by slash196 on Jun 10, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tim Jennings played great? Did you watch the Green Bay game?

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by KingRichard on Jun 10, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

I did

I also watched the Pittsburgh game. Yeah, Jennings has his share of weak spots, but I think his mistakes stemmed from inexperience rather than inability.

by slash196 on Jun 10, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't buy 10 OL to start the year...

Assuming the Oline is basically healthy to start the year (big IF I know) I can’t see them carrying 10OL to start the season, especially 6 interior lineman, when 8 of those 10 you listed can play guard.

And though I’d really hate to see the Colts hold a roster spot for a 3rd string QB I’m not sure they will risk Painter to the PS, especially if he shows anything in pre-season. Keep in mind as well game day actives are important too and Painter as the emergency QB is a “freebie” for the game day roster.

I gotta think that 12 DL is probably pushing it too. C.Howard or Grady would be the most likely to be PS’d.

I’m thinking the team has more classically carried more DB’s for ST’s in the past which would bode well for Silva and Hughes. Hall better shine in STs because based on the commentary from players and coaches he isn’t shining at WR, and with this team deep at so many other positions he isn’t likely to make the cut unless he’s “Don Beebe” good at STs.

by Rob-Westside on Jun 10, 2009 9:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Mike Hart

If Hart doesn’t step up after coming off pup he will possibly get cut. RB will be one of the most interesting positions to watch all season, with the emphasis on improving the running game. Acl injuries are tough to bounce back from for this key position.

by baller3 on Jun 10, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

special teams

I agree with a lot of these projections, the only two people I think will make it that aren’t here is Senn and Silva. They are special teams aces and besides there are only 9 DBS and 6 LBS. I think that Lewis and Grady would b the ones that got cut

by Colts Live Free or Die! on Jun 10, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

If I were doing one

it would look the same but with Lewis dropped for Silva or Hughes, and Grady dropped for Dawson.

Change these hundreds for me cashier, Cuz I ain't made it yet, but I'm better off than last year
And what it look like hun', I ain't never made it rain but it look like fun
-Drake, Still Drake

by shake n bake on Jun 10, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs