Five players from other teams you'd like to see on the Colts
by BigBlueShoe on Jul 10, 2009 3:00 PM EDT
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Because we have no originality here at Stampede Blue, we will usher you readers into the weekend with another list of players. This time, instead of kicking them in the nuts, it's players from other teams you'd like to see on the Colts.
Ah, put there is a catch.
Unlike baseball and basketball, pro football has a salary cap (for the time being). The cap is one of the biggest reasons why teams in middle America can kick the snot out of teams from New York. It's called parity. Everyone works from a level playing field. Large markets cannot simply "buy" the best players. You get the idea.
So, for our little game, take five Colts players and replace them with five players from other teams with the same relative cap hit. It doesn't need to match exactly. Just don't go overboard (Andre Johnson for Pierre Garcon). This makes it a little trickier, but more interesting, in my humble opinion. I mean sure, I'd like to have Andre Johnson and Maurice Jones-Drew on this team paired with Joseph Addai and Reggie Wayne. Cap-wise, it ain't happening.
See my five after the jump. Offer yours in the comments.
Ryan Clady for Tony Ugoh
DeAngelo Williams for Joseph Addai
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DeAngelo Williams
I remember saying for two years that Williams was the real deal and my co-owner of my money fantasy league ordered me not to draft him last year… shows that he know!
I also said that Williams was the best RB in the 2006 draft class. I cried when the Panthers took him then again I also said Reggie Bush would be a good running back shrugs
by MasterRWayne on Jul 10, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DeAngelo Williams won me a fantasy football championship this year
and the $300 that came along with it. The rest of my team was mediocre at best
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
by psvirsky on Jul 10, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The NBA has a salary cap
Albeit a very soft one. With bird rights it is easy for a team to be millions over the cap without having to make any changes.
"I saw a commercial on late night TV, it said,'Forget everything you know about slipcovers.' So I did. And it was a load off my mind. Then the commercial tried to sell me slipcovers, and I didn't know what the hell they were."
-Mitch Hedberg
by Colts Homer on Jul 10, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NBA
Their cap is a joke. The Lakers are $15 million over and they could give a crap. The Knicks live in luxury tax hell and still generate more money than any other NBA team.
The NFL system is sooooo much better. If you want to keep a high profile player, you have to pay him AND he counts against your cap.
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by BigBlueShoe on Jul 10, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nmadi Ashomuga for Kelvin Hayden (it’s a stretch, but Hayden also has a big contract)
Chris Johnson for Joseph Addai
Ryan Clady for Tony Ugoh
Anquan Boldin for Anthony Gonzales (as of now, boldin has a small contract)
Tony Dungy for Jim Caldwell (I can’t help myself)
by Colts_and_Cavs_in_09! on Jul 10, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good ones
Ashomuga is a good one.
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by BigBlueShoe on Jul 10, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Asomugha's new contract is insane
Next two years fully guaranteed for a total of 28.5 million
3rd year is a club option for the higher of 16.8million/franchise tag # for QBs not allowed to F tag him if the decline the option.
He’s good, but that’s crazy money.
That's big talk for a little guy,
but I'm walkin' without reply.
-Lil Wayne "Mr. Postman"
by shake n bake on Jul 10, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You would trade Gonzo already? wwwhaattt?
Yeah, so I sold out, do something about it! Like read my site Colts Chatter.
by KingRichard on Jul 10, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nnamdi wouldn’t exactly fit in our system. He is the best man to man corner of this era, but i don’t know about his zone coverage. The Raiders system is purely man to man. Why do you think DeAngelo Hall was so bad? HE can’t play zone for sh*t. We don’t normally play man to man. I don’t think he would be as good on our team. I would raher have someone like Carlos Rodgers or Marcus Trufant or Charles Tillamn. They fit our scheme decently, Asomugha isn’t used to playing zone. Other than that i like your list
GO COLTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by indikid24 on Jul 12, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not fair, BBS.
I am going to try to make my list from Patspulpit work somehow. (And, yes, I am too lazy on a Friday to look up cap hits)
My goal is to improve weaknesses (run game and stopping the run) and to add to the already effective passing game resulting in an absolutely SCARY offense.
1) Brandon Jacobs, RB, Giants – You can pretty much count on his getting you that 2 yards on 3rd and 2. Jacobs for Addai, Ball and Simpson
2) Anquan Boldin, WR, Cardinals – Boldin for Garcon and Hall.
3) Mike Scrifes, P, Chargers – If for no other reason than just to take him away from San Diego. And if he can pin opponents within the 15-20 yard line somewhat consistently that’s gravy. Scrifes for McAfee (sorry, Pat, I like ya but…)
4) Amobi Okoye, DT, Texans – Our D needs some help getting off the field. Just 2 more stops per game and we reach the promised land. Okoye for Taylor and Maola
5) Jake Long, T, Dolphins – Tony Ugho is not Tarik Glenn (I will catch crap for this pick). I hope I’m wrong about TU, but I want to see more from the LT… I think Jake is pretty darn good plus he’s also young. Long for Ugoh
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Jul 10, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
did you intentionally spell his name Ugho?
by CardsDefense on Jul 10, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...let's see...
NO. The typo wasn’t continued through the end.
Great catch, btw.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Jul 10, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Five
I don’t know about cap space or players salary (aka don’t feel like looking it up), so I did mine based more on production value, and just hope it comes up somewhat similar financially.
Kerry Rhodes (NYJ) for Kelvin Hayden
Patrick Willis (SF) for Robert Mathis
Michael Bush (OAK) for Mike Hart & Lance Ball
Justin Miller (OAK) for Antoine Bethea
Harry Douglas (ATL) for Pierre Garcon
Like I said, not sure if it all balances financially. How close was I? Sorry for the UofL homerism, but you can’t hate these guys’ value.
by npb1985 on Jul 10, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And I know
The positions don’t match up. At DB, I say play Hughes, Powers, or another backup to offset Kelvin. We have plenty of depth for pass rushers (Howard, Johnson, etc.) to offset Mathis. Miller I obviously put in as a return specialist.
by npb1985 on Jul 10, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just one
Jake Scott for Ryan Lilja
by Believe in Blue on Jul 10, 2009 3:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's a GOOD one!
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Jul 10, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amazing
Two years ago, you’d have been laughed at for saying that. :)
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by BigBlueShoe on Jul 10, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont recall anyone laughing at me
I suggested scott over lilja. I did take a little heat though for suggesting that
by metal_militia on Jul 10, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My 5
DeAngelo Williams (Panthers) for Joseph Addai
Jason Witten (Cowboys) for Dallas Clark (I was big on drafting Witten in 2003… Clark is very good, but Witten is better)
Nick Barnett (Packers) for Gary Brackett
Marcus McNeil (Chargers) for Tony Ugoh
Rod Hood (Cardinals) for Tim Jennings
by MasterRWayne on Jul 10, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dear god
Yeah, so I sold out, do something about it! Like read my site Colts Chatter.
by KingRichard on Jul 10, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
witten for clark!?
DAMN
"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady
by Piojocuau on Jul 10, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finally
someone said Brackett….he is alright, but there are several MLBs out there that would upgrade this defense including Urlacher for starters.
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me."
by AceOfSpades on Jul 11, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Witten for Clark
I agree wholeheartedly. Witten is the TE I covet for the Colts the most. Guy is well-rounded. Love his game.
by coltsfanawalt on Jul 11, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How much more production do we need from our TE?
We have two awesome WR. Clark is the perfect fit for our team!
by SupermanWearsBobSander'sPJs on Jul 13, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys are doing the OT upgrade wrong
DIEM (6.05mil) for Joe Thomas (7mil), Ugoh to RT
Gary Brackett (3.08mil) for Jerod Mayo (3.25mil) Love love love Gary, but Mayo is 6 years younger and more physically talented
Raheem Brock (5.3mil) for Justin Tuck (6mil)
Donald Brown (?) for Matt Forte (800K)
Adam Vinatieri (2.7mil) for Mario Williams (2.68mil) Yes Williams is that cheap this season. His deal had no signing bonus, just some roster bonus’ on the front end and a massive salary spike at the end.
That's big talk for a little guy,
but I'm walkin' without reply.
-Lil Wayne "Mr. Postman"
by shake n bake on Jul 10, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
McAfee kicks FGs in the last situation
That's big talk for a little guy,
but I'm walkin' without reply.
-Lil Wayne "Mr. Postman"
by shake n bake on Jul 10, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about that 4 aces package
Freeney, Tuck, Williams, Mathis
That's big talk for a little guy,
but I'm walkin' without reply.
-Lil Wayne "Mr. Postman"
by shake n bake on Jul 10, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quarterbacks wouldn't be able to breathe.
Now a proud annoyance on Stampede Blue, 18to88, Indy Football Report, and Phil B's blog.
Man, I need a life...
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Joseph Addai, otherwise one as The Great Irrationally Hated One, is the first and only running back to rush for 1,000 yards in a season without starting a game in that season.
by Cassieper on Jul 10, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My heart is pounding and I am drooling...
thanks, Shake. ;-)
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Jul 10, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the ultimate pass rush package
no offensive line and qb will survive.
by metal_militia on Jul 10, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FAIL
Your team’s offensive line has failed to protect their QB.
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by BigBlueShoe on Jul 10, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't want to check the salary caps. Too much work,
So I might have disqualified myself oh well here’s who I’d swap. BRANDON JACOBS for ADDAI———CHARLIE BATCH for SORGI———-ELVIS DUMERVIL for MARCUS HOWARD——-OSI UMENIORA for MATHIS———DEMARCUS WARE for BRACKETT.
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
by Indy Lori on Jul 10, 2009 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I had the same laziness issue
So I just went for humor. oooh, I forgot about Osi and Justin Tuck. I might have to expand my list and trade Colts players fom the 70s to get those guys… I wonder what Joe Ehrman and John Dutton are doing these days? And more importantly, how they look in Giants blue….
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
by Bobman on Jul 11, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with you guys is you are afraid to dream, afraid to have
That’s paraphrasing an Eric Bogosian routine.
Now, on to the ist:
Ashomuga for Coe
Mario Williams for Quinn Pitcock
(The Texans will love him, he makes very few waves in the locker room)
Brandon Jacobs for Lance Ball
Matt Cassell for Jim Sorgi
(just in case)
Scifres for McAfee
(for the reasons stated previously)
Andre Johnson and Larry Fitz for Collie and Hall
(because five is just too confining when you dream like I do)
Sproles for Bernie Madoff
(San Diego gets a financial wiz to help with their cap and we can throw Sproles in jail for 150 years, the little shit.)
That’s my official, budget-balanced, George Steinbrenner lineup. Now where do I send my luxury tax check? Predicted record: 19-0. Average Margin of victory: 29 pts.
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
by Bobman on Jul 11, 2009 12:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL
The Sproles comment was classic!
Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis
by hoosier in sodak on Jul 11, 2009 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Missing something?
Marlin Jackson is a good tackling corner, but has VERY limited coverage skills.
Also, Bethea is and alright overall safety, but not a great tackler, does not have great ball skills as a pass defender, and I think Bullitt would be an upgrade over him for starters but I would trade him for several other safeties from other teams as well.
Jackson, Bethea and Brackett would be the areas where I think we could upgrade now that the DT situation is looking so much better.
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me."
by AceOfSpades on Jul 11, 2009 10:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jackson's cover limitations are pretty well covered up in a T-2
It’s true that he’d be a safety in nearly any other scheme, but when he isn’t asked to follow a WR deep often he can do very well.
That's big talk for a little guy,
but I'm walkin' without reply.
-Lil Wayne "Mr. Postman"
by shake n bake on Jul 11, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
though there might be a CB in the 1.5-2 million dollar range that's better.
That's big talk for a little guy,
but I'm walkin' without reply.
-Lil Wayne "Mr. Postman"
by shake n bake on Jul 11, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dream line ups
got me wanting madden just a little more.
football season is right around the corner!!!!!!!!!!!
im so pumped
Please, please draft a big Defensive Tackle. Please?
Enter Fili Moala. Thank you Polian
by skywalker on Jul 24, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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