Beggar no longer has to pay money to Tom Brady

That would be $640 Million. In other words, it isn’t even a drop in the bucket. The nation ran a deficit of $100 Billion in June ALONE. In other words, at the current rate of spending, that little pile of cash would be burned through in about 5 hours. In short, it wouldn’t do a dern thing.

Besides, even if the NFL did install a cap of $1 Million per player why do you assume the extra would be sent to the federal government?

still surprised Brady or one of his minions/agent did not jump on this first to manage the PR in a positive light. Maybe they are as dumb as can be.

Is one honey of a photo. I have GOT to save that for my 8 year-old to show him how to sack. Nice to get the QB down, nicer to get the ball.

Oh, the fact that the victim looks vaguely familiar is a bonus, too.

One of my favorites :))))

He served his time for that crime. Past crimes do not implicate him for this one. That kind of attitude is what prevents ex-cons from getting work and leads them to go back to their past crimes.

Two things:

1) They were stainless steel flowerpots left by the trash. That’s an understandable mistake, hence the lack of criminal proceedings, which also explains the recompence owed to Mr. Brady for the accidental destruction of his property. However, that doesn’t excuse his being either unaware of the situation and allowing these things to happen in his name, or his complicity in allowing a guy without a pot to piss in being forced to repay one of the richest players in the NFL.

2) If Peyton Manning had done this, I guarantee that Colts fans would have strung him up in Monument Circle and invited the local children to throw rotten produce at him. It’s either ignorance or callousness, neither of which we value in our local sports heroes.

Ignore the fact that he’s a former felon, because it’s immaterial to the case. He’s served his debt to society.

In this case, it’s a question of cost vs. reward. Does recouping the cost of the item, based on the value of the item, the income of the offender, and the time it would take to pay it off, really justify getting the money back? It’s not a question of rich or not. It’s a question of saying “I have enough; do I really need this?”

Regarding Manning, there’s a big difference between a stupid college prank, and a willful act as an adult. I think we can all agree that we did some very immature things when we were 21, versus things we did when we were 30.

I mean, it’s not like he used performance enhancing drugs, trafficked in prescription painkillers, slacked on the field, or videotaped his opponents defensive signals.

Being lectured by a Pats fan about integrity is like being lectured by a prostitute about abstinence. Yeah, they know what it is, but they clearly don’t practice it.

Here are your claims as I understand them:

1. You believe the guy is a “worthless ex-con bank-robbing scum.”

2. He deserves to go back to jail.

3. The flowerpots were delivered to the property.

4. The flowerpots might have been in a box with Brady’s name on it.

5. He shouldn’t have believed that somebody would throw away $450 in scrap metal, and should have returned them then.

6. Because of his prior conviction, he should have been more careful of taking something.

7. The guy is a lowlife for “going out and annoying people on the street trying to get money”

8. Because we think Brady should go easy on this guy, we should think that Lance Armstrong should let a guy who steals one of his bicycles off the hook.

9. “He was plain old stealing [the flowerpots] and knew it.”

10. You say that we wouldn’t rip Peyton Manning for doing the same thing.

Is that about right? Well, here are my responses after re-reading the Boston Herald story:

1. What a great attitude to have about somebody without knowing him. I don’t think that you should call anyone worthless. By the way, you are putting way too much weight on the guy being an ex-con.

2. Even if he meant to steal them, I do not believe this crime is/should be punishable by jail time. It’s really not that serious of an offense to warrant any jail time. But that’s just my opinion. I don’t know the laws for that kind of stuff.

3. This is true. I had actually forgotten that. It is unrelated to the main point though.

4. There is absolutely no evidence of that. In fact, I find it very hard to believe they’d put those 2 flowerpots in a box. It would have to be a pretty big box for that.

5. People in ritzy neighborhoods like the one he was in throw away that kind of stuff all of the time and never even think of selling it for scrap metal. That’s one of the perks of being rich.

6. I don’t think he was worried about past convictions at the time. I think he was worried about being able to eat the next day.

7. This is the kind of statement that makes me shake with anger. This guy has no money and has to pay Brady $333.33 a month, and you are calling him a lowlife for “annoying people” for money? How do you think he is supposed to get the money? He can’t get a job. A lot of people’s only source of income is begging people for their living. How dare you criticize them for it. If you don’t want to give them money (and I never do), fine, but don’t chastize them for “annoying you.”

8. Apples to oranges. Lance Armstrong’s guy was purposely stealing his property, therby committing grand larceny (intent to steal is a central component to grand larceny), and Brady’s guy really thought that they were thrown in the trash, making it public property. (Anything in the trash is public property, just like if you throw a lottery ticket in the trash and it wins, you can’t demand it back from the store employee who found it in the trash and discovered that it is a winner.)

9. All evidence I’ve seen (including quotes from cops and “everyone in the building”) says that it was an accident and a big misunderstanding. You are painting him in a much worse picture than he actually is.

10. I would like to think otherwise, but I guess I will never know for sure unless it actually happens. It’s just like I would like to think (and I’m pretty sure) that I’m a die-hard Colts fan and would support the team even when they suck, but I will never know for sure until the Colts actually suck.

I can live with the court’s determination. What is absurd is castigating Brady because people responsible for dealing with things like this on his behalf allowed the law to be upheld.

At this point, since Brady must be aware of this, as he was likely not before because the situation was handled by the Realty Trust, it would be a good gesture to make a charitable donation in that amount.

Perhaps that donation could be used to set up a 12 step program to help local ex-con bank robbers who think it’s okay to trespass on private property and decide what is trash and what is not without inquiry.

Hard to believe an ex-con bank robber that did 10 years hard time could get caught up in a situation like this, isn’t it?

The good news is there IS INDEED a stable market for $4,000 flower pots

Bad news: You have to live in Boston.

Willyduer, your very first sentence sounds like the makings of a horrible sitcom—a criminal is sentenced to be his victim’s butler. Of course in the sitcom, it turns out they were HS classmates and the crook was the QB/homecoming king and the victim was the class wedgie victim, now married to the prom queen…. Oh God, I am nauseous just thinking about it.

of the phenomenon called “Mad Colt Disease”.