What To Expect: Quarterbacks
Peyton Manning is the best QB in the game and when he retires will be the best QB in NFL history, but the backups for Manning are question marks. Jim Sorgi has learned behind Manning for years but would he have the arm strength and overall skill to do what Matt Cassel did? Was taking Curtis Painter worth it?
The way this works is I ask 10 questions about expectations and predictions for a certain position, today being QBs.
1. Over/under on Peyton Manning touchdown passes: 34.5 TDs
2. Do you expect Peyton Manning to win a record-breaking 4th MVP? (not just this year but over his entire career)
3. How many more years do you expect Peyton to play?
4. What will Peyton have to do to stop people like KC Joyner hating on him?
5. Over/under on Peyton Manning passing yards: 4100.5 yards
6. Do you expect Jim Sorgi to keep his backup QB job?
7. Do you expect Curtis Painter to make the active roster, make the practice squad or get cut overall?
8. Do you expect Jim Sorgi or Curtis Painter to ever start a game in the NFL?
9. Will Sorgi get an extension from the team after his contract runs up in 2010?
10. Will Peyton Manning ever play for another NFL team?
My answers are after the jump.
1. Over but just barely. He will throw 35 touchdown passes.
2. No. Players like Adrian Peterson and Matt Forte will keep on getting better and stop him from breaking Favre and Unitas' record.
3. 5 more years.
4. He will have to win another Super Bowl while beating the Patriots on the way to the Super Bowl. It seems like he wouldn't have to do that twice to prove to those people that he is a once-in-two-lifetimes kind of talent.
5. Under. Brown and Addai will take away a lot of his yards.
6. Yes, pretty easily too.
7. He will make the practice squad.
8. No. They both may start a UFL game someday though.
9. No. In either next year's draft or the year after Polian will take a QB on the second day (which now means high in the draft).
10. No way. Polian would never let that happen, and he isn't the Favre personality that would try and get revenge on a team for no apparent reason.
22 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
k
1. Under, his 49 TD season is Peyton’s only year with more than 33 TDs
2. Yes, he won a MVP in a down year (statistically and in team success), so an “as usual” Peyton should be able to pick up one more in the next few years.
3. 7, giving him 18 and wrapping his career up just before his 40th birthday.
4. Cure Cancer, AIDS, the common cold, rescue 45 children from a burning orphanage, be the first man on Mars and discover cold fusion… by next Tuesday.
5. Under, he’s been over for most of his career, but only one of the last 4 seasons. Teams are really trying to limit his attempts, and the Colts can run more now that they aren’t leaning on just one quality back.
6. For a while, he’s signed through 2010, I expect him to stay at least that long. Beyond that depends on the progress Painter makes and/or a 2010 QB prospect being drafted mid to late.
7. I think he’ll sit on the PS, no team is going to burn a roster spot on him when he didn’t go through their camp. He isn’t a good enough prospect right now.
8. Yes, If Sorgi walks after 2010 which I think is very possible, I’d expect him to at least get a injury replacement start for whoever picks him up. They wouldn’t pay him over 1mil a year if he wasn’t at least adequate backup.
9. No, but it’s possible. Look at Dan Orlovsky’s contract for the premium being put on a semi-competent QB on the open market. I doubt the Colts would pay that for a clipboard holder and filmbuddy.
10. No, Peyton is too smart to pull a Favre. He knows that jerking his team around is bad for his image which is bad for his wallet.
That's big talk for a little guy,
but I'm walkin' without reply.
-Lil Wayne "Mr. Postman"
what he said
Head Cheerleader of the official Matty I Fan Club
"Forgiveness is between them and God. It's my job to arrange the meeting."- Man on Fire
by Davone_Is_BessT on Jul 24, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
This is fun
1) Over, but I agree with you Colts Homer, just barely. I say 35 also
2) Yes, he will win a 4th league MVP before he’s done
3) 6 years. He will know when its time for him to go and I say he plays at an elite level for that long
4) See Shake’s answer. Pretty much he would have to be declared a Saint – by next Tuesday. Or perhaps, get caught in a motel room with a hooker and a crack pipe. Its hard to tell what the haters really want to see
5) Under. With the run game improving, he won’t have to throw 60 passes in a game and thus limiting his yardage
6) Peyton likes Sorgi. I expect him to stay at least until his contract is up (and they find a suitable replacement – read: Peyton’s replacement)
7) Practice Squad. I just don’t see Polian having 3 QBs on the active roster
8) I don’t think Sorgi will. He will find a clipboard toting spot somewhere else or retire. Painter – that’s hard to say.
9) No. I agree that Polian drafts Peyton’s replacement by the 2010 season
10) Never gonna happen. Polian wouldn’t let that happen – Peyton has been the team for 11 years. Plus, Peyton is way too smart and less ego driven to pull a Favre
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
1. Over/under on Peyton Manning touchdown passes: 34.5 TDs
I say 34
2. Do you expect Peyton Manning to win a record-breaking 4th MVP? (not just this year but over his entire career)
Yes
3. How many more years do you expect Peyton to play?
6 more years
4. What will Peyton have to do to stop people like KC Joyner hating on him?
Just let it slide. It’s the Colts’ way
5. Over/under on Peyton Manning passing yards: 4100.5 yards
Over
6. Do you expect Jim Sorgi to keep his backup QB job?
No, CP is a better QB imo
7. Do you expect Curtis Painter to make the active roster, make the practice squad or get cut overall?
Make the active roster
8. Do you expect Jim Sorgi or Curtis Painter to ever start a game in the NFL?
Yeah CP if he is able to show he can do it
9. Will Sorgi get an extension from the team after his contract runs up in 2010?
No
10. Will Peyton Manning ever play for another NFL team?
No
We're out there for 60 minutes. In that 60 minutes you can be gods or you can be smucks. And I want to be a god. How bout you?
by 7_Painter's_First_Fan on Jul 23, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions
This is fun (I had that subject line drafted before ptb posted her response, but I had to go into a meeting in the meantime)
1. Under, because the running game will improve and we will have a more balanced attack.
2. No, but not because I don’t wish it to be so.
3. Five. I expect him to step down as soon as he feels the slightest decline in performance… probably before it’s perceptible to us.
4. Save Tom Brady from a burning house. Even then the story will be more about Brady.
5. Under, again for same reason cited in #1… the improvement in the running game.
6. Yes
7. Practice squad
8. Sorgi – yes, but not with the Colts. Painter – yes, with the Colts.
9. No – see #8
10. No… I just don’t see it.
How can you not love a team that does this?
1. Over/under on Peyton Manning touchdown passes: 34.5 TDs
over. id say 37 for this year
2. Do you expect Peyton Manning to win a record-breaking 4th MVP? (not just this year but over his entire career)
Yes,
3. How many more years do you expect Peyton to play?
6 more years
4. What will Peyton have to do to stop people like KC Joyner hating on him?
win three more titles to tie with Montana. Its the only way.
5. Over/under on Peyton Manning passing yards: 4100.5 yards
Over
6. Do you expect Jim Sorgi to keep his backup QB job?
this year, yes.
7. Do you expect Curtis Painter to make the active roster, make the practice squad or get cut overall?
PS
8. Do you expect Jim Sorgi or Curtis Painter to ever start a game in the NFL?
Honestly, no.
9. Will Sorgi get an extension from the team after his contract runs up in 2010?
No, he will be released when it finishes.
10. Will Peyton Manning ever play for another NFL team?
Never. Once a Colt, always a Colt
I love this type of interactive questioning.
1.) Over. That really is a perfect number. He’s only done it once, but this year he has the weaponry, with Brown, that allows him to do it again (however I always feel this way).
2.) No. He may earn it, but in this league, predicting MVP’s is a really inexact science.
3.) 7, so through 2015.
4.) For this year. In 2010 it will be Painters.
5.) Cure Cancer (although KC Joyner will still hate him since that just proves his “Peyton’s too much of a braniac” theory)
6.) Over. He had a two-headed RB beast in 2006 and went way over.
7.) Roster. The Colts aren’t ones to have a worthless draft pick.
8.) NO
9.) NO
10.) NOOO
1. Under
2. Yes 4 sounds good.
3. 6 more years.
4. Can’t do anything about people like that. Pleasing everyone is impossible.
5. Over, just because he’s Peyton.
6. Yes, but my opinion could change after Training Camp.
7. Practice Squad.
8. Yes, Painter but for another team.
9. No extension for Sorgi.
10. Peyton will never play for another team. He won’t keep hanging on like Favre because there’ll be so many offers pouring in from TV land. He has so much going on, he won’t need Football to keep him fulfilled.
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
when he retires
he will become the colts qb coach at first. then become offensive coordinator. every team will want him as head coach but he will choose the colts. he will become the third person to win a superbowl as a player and a coach. this is my dream.
Please, please draft a big Defensive Tackle. Please?
Enter Fili Moala. Thank you Polian
I'd like to append my answer for # 4.
I just thought of a way for Peyton to stop the haters. He could offer to donate his DNA to them. That way they could have kids who would grow up to be JUST LIKE HIM!
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
1. Under. History doesn’t prove this to be true as shake pointed out, weapons or not. I’ll take 30.
2. I’d be surprised if he won a 4th MVP, but I don’t think it’s a definite no. New faces will overtake Manning even if he’s the more deserving candidate at least once on a “he’s already got three, why does he need four?”
3. I expect six. Seven if he’s not already broken the records from a then robotic Favre.
4. Nothing short of winning two more Super Bowls back to back is going to change things. If he wins two, it’ll be “Well…Brady got two in a row!!” “Well, it took him long enough!!” Manning’s critics will never change. I don’t even really think back-to-back Super Bowls would change that.
5. Over. Maybe only slightly over, but he can get the yards with the weapons.
6. For this year at least. He knows the system well enough to keep him around.
7. Probably the practice squad, but can get moved up if he shows things Sorgi doesn’t. I think Sorgi’s experience with the system makes him a clear backup to Painter this season.
8. Hopefully not in the next few years, but they could start Week 1 this year, so I can’t say it’ll be no, but I’ll just hope not.
9. I doubt it. By that point, I think you’ve got Painter as a more capable backup.
10. I’ll say no, but as with most answers, it’s not a definite no. Unitas did. Favre still has yet to suit up for 29 teams, so it’s not impossible, but I’d imagine him to play as a Colt until he retires.
1) Under. I think 33 touchdown passes is probably the right number.
2) Yes, I still think he’ll win one more, but he really should have like 10 MVPs because he’s been the best NFL player year in and year in for this entire decade. It’s kind of like Jordan with his MVPs: he was the best player every year, but the voters got sick of giving him the award, so they voted for someone else.
3) 7 years.
4) I think he needs to cut a bitch in the throat, get caught snorting cocaine, hold meetings with the offense in strip clubs, and cheat on his wife with every girl in the world like my man Michael Irvin in order for JC, KC, and Tom Joyner to stop hatin’ on him.
5) Under. I think he gets no more than 4050 passing yards. Hopefully the run game will average 100 yards per game this coming season.
6) Yeah, I just hope if Peyton does go down (i.e. Brady’s injury), Sorgi won’t make a complete ass out of him.
7) Practice squad.
8) Even if Peyton’s healthy, throws 10 interceptions threw 3 1/2 quarters of a game, and their both still on the Colts roster; um….no.
9) No, I think by that time Polian will be looking for a young QB for Peyton to groom.
10) In the words of Whitney Houston: HELL TO THE NAW!!!!
"Peyton Manning flow, I just go no huddle."
- Lil' Wayne, Put Some Keys on That
All lies.
To be quite honest (no disrespect meant) your answers were terrible…
1. UNDER – Are you kidding? He has had ONE season over 33 TDs.
2. YES – He has MORE than enough time. His name is something people feel comfortable putting down because he has always been so consistent.
3. 8 years – At least 8. He doesn’t rely on his body, but his mind. He loves the game and he will be a quality QB until he breaks ALL the records. You say he’ll be the best when he retires. If he retires in five years, he won’t have more SBs than all of the greats, he won’t have the highest stats, and he won’t have the longest streak, it will stay with Favre. No doubt he could retire today and be ONE of the best. But to be THE best, he will have to play another 7 years and win one more bowl.
4. He needs to improve his playoff record. People hate on him because of his inability to win a big game. He won plenty of big games now, his record in the playoffs is just BAD. If he finishes with a .600 record in the playoffs, he’ll be the best no doubt.
5. Over, but just barely. He will ALWAYS find a way to hit the 4000 yard mark. And you sounded crazy saying that. Edgerrin NEVER took away from Manning’s yards, and he was twice the back Addai and Donald are… put together. A rookie and a guy coming off a 12 game, 500 yard, 3.5 ypc season. Those guys are gonna take away yards from him?
6. I think he could start for the vikings. He isn’t bad at all, but not good either. He has beat all all competition (which isn’t saying much) since he got the backup job. He will keep this job
7. I think the colts keep him on the roster as the third QB. They wouldn’t draft him if he was gonna be on the squad. They would wait until RFA, they could have had Graham Harrell! That makes me mad.
8. Yes. It’s up in the air on whether Sorgi will. When Manning retires or if he leaves the colts for another team. Painter will DEFINITELY start in his career. Probably not for the Colts, but he is a good enough QB to start and post a QB rating above 75. Not right away of course, but learning from Manning, in a few years he will be decent.
9. It all depends on how Painter does. He’s like Charlie Batch, a great back up. The colts have a history of not caring about people like him who don’t matter, but there is a chance he could stay.
10. Well. Did we EVER think Marvin could play for another team? Honestly, Marvin is the undisputed no. 2 WR of all time. Manning in other people’s eyes, is just barely a top 20 QB of all time. What if he hits 42 and still wants to play? My answer is No. But you never know…
by Colts_and_Cavs_in_09! on Jul 24, 2009 12:27 AM EDT reply actions
,
1, Under
2, Yes
3, Six or seven
4, More commercials?
5, Over
6, Yes
7, Practice Squad
8, Not unless Peyton gets run over by a truck, and even then it’s 50-50.
9, No
10, No
Visit FanIQ.com for sports news, bloggings, polls, and more!
My Answers~
1. Under. To be honest, I think he’ll throw around 30 – 32 touchdown passes.
2. It’s possible. As long as he plays at the elite level he does right now, he’s got a shot.
3. Hopefully, five to six more seasons. I’d hate to see him retire early.
4. Improve his post-season record and probably find a way to win another Superbowl.
5. A little under. I think he will pass for 4,000 yards, but not much more than that.
6. Yeah, it’s not like he needs to play anyways.
7. I think he’ll make it to the practice squad, and could potentially replace Sorgi. Who knows?
8. For the Colts, no, for someone else, doubt it.
9. If Painter proves to be a better player than Sorgi, then probably not.
10. Hell to the no. Unlike Brett Favre, Peyton respects the game of football and the players that came before him. He won’t stain his career or the Colts organization. When he’s ready to go, he’ll go. I mean, this is a guy who says he “lives for Sundays.”
"People don't realize that I'm just like them. I got feelings just like them. I go through hell in my life, just like them." Allen Iverson
I thought about Graham Harrell after the draft about him not getting drafted and all that. But I say that he was a system QB. His numbers were inflated because of it. Now don’t get me wrong he is a good QB, we just don’t know how he would be in a PRO system. That is why I agree with the Painter pick. Harrell most likely is a better QB at the moment, but Painter comes form a school that has produced good and great QBs(Brees, Ortin, Bob Grise) that gives him an edge in understanding how PRO systems work.
We're out there for 60 minutes. In that 60 minutes you can be gods or you can be smucks. And I want to be a god. How bout you?
by 7_Painter's_First_Fan on Jul 24, 2009 10:32 AM EDT reply actions
This was
a reply to Colts_and_Cavs_in_09! post just forgot to hit the reply button
We're out there for 60 minutes. In that 60 minutes you can be gods or you can be smucks. And I want to be a god. How bout you?
by 7_Painter's_First_Fan on Jul 24, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
1. Peyton will throw for 35+ TDs. I think Caldwell’s going to set a more aggressive tone in all phases.
2. Manning will win a 4th MVP at some point. Look out for Brady this year though.
3. Peyton will play indefinitely.
4. Who cares? It all comes down to performing on the field.
5. Peyton will pass for 4,225 yards. Benefit of losing Marv will be more deep balls this year.
6. Jim Sorgi will absolutely keep his backup job. He’s a stud in hiding.
7. Curtis Painter will make the squad.
8. Odds are Sorgi or Painer will start at some point.
9. Sorgi will get an extension.
10. I doubt Manning will play for another NFL team but it’s a cold-blooded league, so you never know.
1. Under. A revamped running game and plenty of leads will keep Manning from going through the air too much.
2. Yes. If Peyton can’t do it, they need to hang a sign on the MVP trophy that says “Max 3 per customer”.
3. He’s always said he wants to plat 18 years, so 7 more seasons.
4. Win a Super Bowl in inclement weather against a 3-4 defense while having a perfect game. Or win 3 more Super Bowls. Whichever comes first.
5. Under. See #1.
6. For now. But only for now.
7. Practice squad.
8. Nope.
9. Probably not. Too expensive. But, Polian might have him “taken care of”, just in case.
10. Nope. He’s not Brett Favre. He’ll retire, then immediately get hired on as a coach somewhere.
Bob Sanders eats a forest on Friday so he can lay the wood on Sunday.
http://sportscircuits.wordpress.com
http://monkeybiziu.deviantart.com
by MonkeyBusiness on Jul 24, 2009 10:46 AM EDT reply actions
1. Over/under on Peyton Manning touchdown passes: 34.5 TDs Good target point, but under(barely)
2. Do you expect Peyton Manning to win a record-breaking 4th MVP? (not just this year but over his entire career) Should be looking for # 5 at this point, but yes he will.
3. How many more years do you expect Peyton to play? 6-7
4. What will Peyton have to do to stop people like KC Joyner hating on him? That’s impossible. Ignorant and stupid people have hated him for 15 years now
5. Over/under on Peyton Manning passing yards: 4100.5 yards? Over
6. Do you expect Jim Sorgi to keep his backup QB job? For at least this season.
7. Do you expect Curtis Painter to make the active roster, make the practice squad or get cut overall? Yes to the active roster, or a mysterious injury might IR him. He might be snatched up if placed on the practice squad.
8. Do you expect Jim Sorgi or Curtis Painter to ever start a game in the NFL? Not with 18 on the active roster.
9. Will Sorgi get an extension from the team after his contract runs up in 2010? Depends on Painter. If cut he might get a new job as assistant qb coach.
10. Will Peyton Manning ever play for another NFL team? No
by Meat Tuperello on Jul 24, 2009 11:52 AM EDT reply actions

by 












