What to Expect: Receivers/Tight Ends

by Colts Homer on Jul 27, 2009 9:02 PM EDT

This may be the most interesting position on the team. A future Hall of Famer just left, a player out of D-III is the favorite for the slot receiver job, and the H-back spot should be a fierce competition. Peyton Manning has some great targets to throw to, including 3 first round picks and some up-and-coming wide receivers and tight ends. As many of you know, I am a huge Tom Santi fan and I expect him to be one of the sleepers for this season. As always, here are the questions. I'm doing 15 because of the number of players in these two units.

1. Over/under on Reggie Wayne's touchdowns: 7.5

2. Over/under on Anthony Gonzalez receiving yards: 750.5

3. Over/under on Dallas Clark receptions: 70.5

4. Over/under on Pierre Garcon receiving yards: 555.5

5. Who do you expect will win the third receiver spot?

6. who do you expect will win the H-back job?

7. Do you expect Austin Collie to have an impact on offense this season?

8. Do you expect a receiver to be the kick returner this season?

9. Do you expect Pierre Garcon to be the slot receiver in 2011?

10. Do you expect Reggie Wayne to be a Hall of Famer?

11. Do you expect Austin Collie to have the success Brandon Stokley had in Indy?

12. Do you expect Roy Hall to make the roster, and if so will he have an impact on offense?

13. Do you expect either Jacob Tamme or Tom Santi to pass Gijon Robinson at some point in the season?

14. Will an undrafted free agent make the team or practice squad at receiver or tight end?

15. How many players will have a receiving touchdown this season?

My answers are after the jump.

1. Over, 9 touchdowns.

2. Way over, 900 yards.

3. Under, 64

4. Under, 525

5. Pierre Garcon will be the main slot receiver, but Collie will have his fair share of time there.

6. Gijon Robinson will start the first game, but Tom Santi will be starting by Week 6.

7. Yes. He will have at least 200 yards.

8. Austin Collie will be returning alongside TJ Rushing.

9. No, the Colts will have traded him.

10. No, but he will be damn close when it's all said and done.

11. He will be here for a while, but he will never have 1000 yards or 10 touchdowns in one season.

12. He will not make the roster.

13. Yes, Tom Santi will pass Gijon Robinson.

14. Yes, John Matthews will make the practice squad along with Sam Giguere.

15. 9, Clark, Robinson, Santi, Wayne, Gonzalez, Garcon, Collie, Addai, Brown

I'm excited about these groups. That's for sure.

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1, Over

2, Over

3, Under

4, Under

5, Collie

6, Gijon Robinson

7, Somewhat

8. Yes

9, No

10, That’s a tough one. Maybe

11, Not quite that good

12, No

13, No

14, No clue

15, Wayne, Gonzalez, Clark, Collie, Addai, Brown and one of the TE/FB guys, so 7.

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by MrNFL on Jul 27, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions

Second!

1. Over, 10 TDs
2. Over, 1100 yards
3. It will be right around the 70 area
4. Under, 400
5. They will share, but with Garcon having more experience, he will get more time
6. Gijon Robinson, Tom Santi will be great in the two TE sets.
7. Yes, about 300 yards
8. TJ Rushing and Roy Hall will return
9. He will be replaced by Collie by that time
10. Unless he pulls a Jerry Rice and plays for over 15 years, no
11. Yes, he won’t have a 1000 yard AND 10 td season, but he will be more consistent
12. As a kick returner yes
13. Tamme will pass him in the future, Santi will be a TE in the 2 TE sets,
14. Sam Giguere will make the practice squad
15. Reggie Wayne 10, Dallas Clark 8, Pierre Garcon 2, Austin Collie 4, Anthony Gonzales 6, Joseph Addai 2, Donald Brown 1, Tom Santi 1, and some random D lineman 1

by Colts_and_Cavs_in_09! on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions

Random D Lineman

I like that, remember, Dan KleckO?

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino

by Indy Lori on Jul 28, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions

1. Over/under on Reggie Wayne’s touchdowns: 7.5 - Over

2. Over/under on Anthony Gonzalez receiving yards: 750.5 - Over

3. Over/under on Dallas Clark receptions: 70.5 - Over

4. Over/under on Pierre Garcon receiving yards: 555.5 - Under

5. Who do you expect will win the third receiver spot? Garcon

6. who do you expect will win the H-back job? Darrell Reid…oh wait

7. Do you expect Austin Collie to have an impact on offense this season? Not really

8. Do you expect a receiver to be the kick returner this season? Yes

9. Do you expect Pierre Garcon to be the slot receiver in 2011? No

10. Do you expect Reggie Wayne to be a Hall of Famer? Yes

11. Do you expect Austin Collie to have the success Brandon Stokley had in Indy? Yes

12. Do you expect Roy Hall to make the roster, and if so will he have an impact on offense? Yes he’ll make the roster, no he won’t have an impact

13. Do you expect either Jacob Tamme or Tom Santi to pass Gijon Robinson at some point in the season? Maybe

14. Will an undrafted free agent make the team or practice squad at receiver or tight end? No

15. How many players will have a receiving touchdown this season? 8

Yeah, so I sold out, do something about it! Like read my site Colts Chatter.

by KingRichard on Jul 27, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions

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over

under

Garcon, but I expect Clark to do most of the slot WRing

Santi

No, but he will in the return game

Yes

Yes, just STs

In TC/Preseason

That's big talk for a little guy,
but I'm walkin' without reply.
-Lil Wayne "Mr. Postman"

by shake n bake on Jul 27, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions

Okay I'll give it a shot

1. Over/under on Reggie Wayne’s touchdowns: 7.5
Over, 12 TDs.
2. Over/under on Anthony Gonzalez receiving yards: 750.5
Over, 1020 yds.
3. Over/under on Dallas Clark receptions: 70.5
Over, 80 receptions.
4. Over/under on Pierre Garcon receiving yards: 555.5
Under, I expect Roy Hall to step up and get a shot. (perhaps too much wishfull thinking)
5. Who do you expect will win the third receiver spot?
Don’t have a clue, except I expect a war between three guys, and possibly four.
6. who do you expect will win the H-back job?
Tamme.
7. Do you expect Austin Collie to have an impact on offense this season?
Absolutely, but who knows how big?
8. Do you expect a receiver to be the kick returner this season?
Don’t have a clue, maybe Collie?
9. Do you expect Pierre Garcon to be the slot receiver in 2011?
I expect him to be a slot receiver, I think we may see two or three.
10. Do you expect Reggie Wayne to be a Hall of Famer?
I think so.
11. Do you expect Austin Collie to have the success Brandon Stokley had in Indy?
Quite possibly, but not this year.
12. Do you expect Roy Hall to make the roster, and if so will he have an impact on offense?
I beleive so, and I really hope so. I think he is gonna be a monster if he stays healthy..

13. Do you expect either Jacob Tamme or Tom Santi to pass Gijon Robinson at some point in the season?
Yes.
14. Will an undrafted free agent make the team or practice squad at receiver or tight end?
Don’t think so.
15. How many players will have a receiving touchdown this season?
How about an even 10.

by tim55 on Jul 27, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions

1. Over/under on Reggie Wayne’s touchdowns: 7.5
Over

2. Over/under on Anthony Gonzalez receiving yards: 750.5
Over

3. Over/under on Dallas Clark receptions: 70.5
Over

4. Over/under on Pierre Garcon receiving yards: 555.5
Under

5. Who do you expect will win the third receiver spot?
Garcon

6. who do you expect will win the H-back job?
Gijon Robinson

7. Do you expect Austin Collie to have an impact on offense this season?
Not this year, no. Unless he wins the slot job, he will not have an impact

8. Do you expect a receiver to be the kick returner this season?
Yes

9. Do you expect Pierre Garcon to be the slot receiver in 2011?
No

10. Do you expect Reggie Wayne to be a Hall of Famer?
Yes

11. Do you expect Austin Collie to have the success Brandon Stokley had in Indy?
Yes

12. Do you expect Roy Hall to make the roster, and if so will he have an impact on offense?
No

13. Do you expect either Jacob Tamme or Tom Santi to pass Gijon Robinson at some point in the season?
Yes, Tamme

14. Will an undrafted free agent make the team or practice squad at receiver or tight end?
No

15. How many players will have a receiving touchdown this season?
9

by metal_militia on Jul 27, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions

I love these

1.) Over; 13, I expect a 2007 type year from R-Dub.

2.) Over. When the Number two has been healthy, he has always gotten 1,000 yards since 2003.

3.) Under; with Gonzo stepping up, and two good receiving rb’s, there are only so many balls.

4.) Under; I expect mainly 2-wide 2-tight formations, with Clark out wide as a slot.

5.) Garcon; heard too much about him from media for him not to be as good as advertised.

6.) Tamme; I would have said Gijon, but after that missed block ruined my winter/spring, I can’t

7.) No; Unless Garcon/Wayne/Gonzo gets hurt.

8.) No; I’m pretty sure it is still TJ Rushing’s job.

9.) No, I think Collie will take over by then.

10.) No, started too late. Has really only had two or three HOF fame years.

11.) No, as I doubt he will ever be the #2, and no slot is ever going to have a 2004 Stokley year ever again.

12.) Yes; they should carry 5 WRs

13.) Tamme; just a guess over Santi. Anybody but Dijon Robinson.

14.) Probably. Just law of averages.

15.) 8; Wayne, Gonzo, Clark, Addai, Brown, Garcon, Collie, one of the three TE’s.

by dmstorm22 on Jul 27, 2009 10:35 PM EDT reply actions

1. Over/under on Reggie Wayne’s touchdowns: 7.5
Over……10!
2. Over/under on Anthony Gonzalez receiving yards: 750.5
Over…..Gonzo is likely to have his first 1000-yard season.
3. Over/under on Dallas Clark receptions: 70.5
Slightly under…65.
4. Over/under on Pierre Garcon receiving yards: 555.5
Under….400 yards.
5. Who do you expect will win the third receiver spot?
Collie!
6. who do you expect will win the H-back job?
Santi if he improves his blocking.
7. Do you expect Austin Collie to have an impact on offense this season?
Yes, I do. ~300 yards…..
8. Do you expect a receiver to be the kick returner this season?
Collie!
9. Do you expect Pierre Garcon to be the slot receiver in 2011?
No, Collie will have it…
10. Do you expect Reggie Wayne to be a Hall of Famer?
I really do as long as he continues his track record of consistency. It’s as good as sealed if he becomes a Super Bowl MVP.
11. Do you expect Austin Collie to have the success Brandon Stokley had in Indy?
Yes, but to a smaller degree.
12. Do you expect Roy Hall to make the roster, and if so will he have an impact on offense?
He will not make the roster.
13. Do you expect either Jacob Tamme or Tom Santi to pass Gijon Robinson at some point in the season?
Santi will pass Gijon.
14. Will an undrafted free agent make the team or practice squad at receiver or tight end?
Standeford and Giguere.
15. How many players will have a receiving touchdown this season?
9: Wayne, Gonzo, Clark, Addai, Brown, Garcon, Collie, Gijon, Santi.

by Mr. Naptown on Jul 27, 2009 11:25 PM EDT reply actions

Standeford?

he’s with the Lions. Has been since his PS eligibility ran out.

You mean Matthews or McDermot? Those are the white undrafted WRs on the roster.

That's big talk for a little guy,
but I'm walkin' without reply.
-Lil Wayne "Mr. Postman"

by shake n bake on Jul 28, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions

1. Over/under on Reggie Wayne’s touchdowns: 7.5
Over, 9-10 touchdowns

2. Over/under on Anthony Gonzalez receiving yards: 750.5
Over, 1000 yards

3. Over/under on Dallas Clark receptions: 70.5
Under, 65 receptions

4. Over/under on Pierre Garcon receiving yards: 555.5
Under, 350-400 yards sounds about right.

5. Who do you expect will win the third receiver spot?
Garcon

6. who do you expect will win the H-back job?
Gijon Robinson

7. Do you expect Austin Collie to have an impact on offense this season?
No

8. Do you expect a receiver to be the kick returner this season?
No

9. Do you expect Pierre Garcon to be the slot receiver in 2011?
Yes, but only if he’s good.

10. Do you expect Reggie Wayne to be a Hall of Famer?
Yes. He has five good years left in him and if he stays healthy and consistently puts up good to great numbers, then he definitely has a shot of being a Hall of Famer.

11. Do you expect Austin Collie to have the success Brandon Stokley had in Indy?
No

12. Do you expect Roy Hall to make the roster, and if so will he have an impact on offense?
No

13. Do you expect either Jacob Tamme or Tom Santi to pass Gijon Robinson at some point in the season?
Yep

14. Will an undrafted free agent make the team or practice squad at receiver or tight end?
No

15. How many players will have a receiving touchdown this season?
Nine players

"Peyton Manning flow, I just go no huddle."
- Lil' Wayne, Put Some Keys on That

by KMR24 on Jul 27, 2009 11:54 PM EDT reply actions

1. Over/under on Reggie Wayne’s touchdowns: 7.5
Over. Reggie will have more, he’s the man.

2. Over/under on Anthony Gonzalez receiving yards: 750.5
Over. He had 664 yards last year, and I think he’ll be pushing towards 1000 this season.

3. Over/under on Dallas Clark receptions: 70.5
Finally the tough questions start. DC had 77 receptions last year, although 58 in 2007. I’ll actually say under. Maybe on the hopes that Peyton will pass the ball to Addai (or another back on the field) more like I would like to see him do.

4. Over/under on Pierre Garcon receiving yards: 555.5
I suppose I’ll be conservative and say under. Although I have loved Garcon since his first preseason game. He is a nasty run-blocker, the likes of which the Colts haven’t seen in years if not decades.

5. Who do you expect will win the third receiver spot?
I loved the pick of Collie, but Garcon.

6. who do you expect will win the H-back job?
Dallas Clark?

7. Do you expect Austin Collie to have an impact on offense this season?
Yes, it may not be much but he’ll contribute in some way. Maybe on punt or kick-off returns, hidden yardage. Especially if there’s an injury to the Top 3 receivers.

8. Do you expect a receiver to be the kick returner this season?
Haven’t really thought about it to be honest, but Collie could be the perfect guy.

9. Do you expect Pierre Garcon to be the slot receiver in 2011?
No, Gonzalez or Wayne will move to the slot and Garcon will play out wide.

10. Do you expect Reggie Wayne to be a Hall of Famer?
I think when his career is finished, with the numbers and the three championships he helped win, yes he will ultimately be a Hall of Famer. And probably the best wide receiver in Colts history. Right now he’s second to Raymond Berry, who is the best WR in Colts history. Harrison is third in my mind, he’s nothing but a numbers guy who was dead weight around the Colts’ neck in the postseason. Reggie is a playmaker, a true great player, and can line up from anywhere and attack defenses.

11. Do you expect Austin Collie to have the success Brandon Stokley had in Indy?
Probably not, only because Dallas Clark is more involved and there’s also Anthony Gonzalez. Maybe if the Colts don’t extend Reggie Wayne? At least Collie might stay healthy, which is more than Stokley can say. Nevermind Corey Simon, that contract Polian signed Stokley to is actually the dumbest move he ever made.

12. Do you expect Roy Hall to make the roster, and if so will he have an impact on offense?
I still have high hopes for Roy Hall, although admittedly, this season is probably his last chance to show something. As a receiver or on special teams (Steve Tasker?). Otherwise a wide receiver is going to get drafted next year, or someone like UDFA John Matthews could earn the roster spot.

13. Do you expect either Jacob Tamme or Tom Santi to pass Gijon Robinson at some point in the season?
Well I certainly hope so. Blocking/#2 tight end is by the biggest weakness on this team, backfired on the Colts last season, but hopefully a healthy Tom Santi is up to the task. Robinson gives the effort, but he’s not good enough. I have high hopes for Santi and was hoping the Colts would draft him, unfortunately his rookie season was completely derailed thanks to two major injuries.

14. Will an undrafted free agent make the team or practice squad at receiver or tight end?
If I had to pick a candidate, well the aforementioned John Matthews from San Diego. Or a blocking tight end, either Jamie Petrowski or someone the Colts pick up from another team (Baltimore recently released a blocking TE I believe).

15. How many players will have a receiving touchdown this season?
Let’s see, Reggie, Gonzo, DC, Garcon, Addai, Brown, and let’s throw in an extra one. So I will say 7.

by project geo on Jul 28, 2009 2:27 AM EDT reply actions

Wow

Harrison, the greatest wide receiver not named Jerry Rice, was “just a numbers guy”? I think you might get your Colts fan card yanked for that one. And it’s hard to take such a comment seriously when you say that Dallas Clark is going to win the H-back job – when he’s already the starting TE.

I also wish I had time and motivation to blog at Speed Blue Nation

by Bullard47 on Jul 28, 2009 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions

He’s right, Harrison blew in the playoffs. Harrison has a whopping 2 touchdowns in his entire postseason career. What makes it worse is that both of those tds came in the same game, which happened to be a blowout by the Colts.

Yeah, so I sold out, do something about it! Like read my site Colts Chatter.

by KingRichard on Jul 28, 2009 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions

1. Over/under on Reggie Wayne’s touchdowns: 7.5
Over. As in over ten.

2. Over/under on Anthony Gonzalez receiving yards: 750.5
Over. As in over a thousand.

3. Over/under on Dallas Clark receptions: 70.5
Under. Many more receiving threats to share with this year.

4. Over/under on Pierre Garcon receiving yards: 555.5
Under, but this one was my toughest call. It will depend on the others. If Roy Hall is injured or underwhelming, and if Collie is underused as a rookie, then I believe Garcon will easily be over this mark.

5. Who do you expect will win the third receiver spot?
I’m torn between Hall and Garcon. The Colts see something in Hall, or they wouldn’t have held his injured self these past two seasons. I hope he validates their confidence this year. Then again, there’s a lot of rave about Garcon, who could fill that role while Collie learns this year.

6. Who do you expect will win the H-back job?
Santi, by early season.

7.Do you expect Austin Collie to have an impact on offense this season?
I’d be surprised , but it would be a pleasant kind of shock.

8. Do you expect a receiver to be the kick returner this season?
Yes.

9. Do you expect Pierre Garcon to be the slot receiver in 2011?
No.

10. Do you expect Reggie Wayne to be a Hall of Famer?
Absolutely!

11. Do you expect Austin Collie to have the success Brandon Stokley had in Indy?
Not in his rookie year, but yes, eventually.

12. Do you expect Roy Hall to make the roster, and if so will he have an impact on offense?
I have no idea because of injury, but I’ll say yes.

13. Do you expect either Jacob Tamme or Tom Santi to pass Gijon Robinson at some point in the season?
Yes.

14. Will an undrafted free agent make the team or practice squad at receiver or tight end?
Why not?

15. How many players will have a receiving touchdown this season?
Nine.

by coltsfanawalt on Jul 28, 2009 4:02 AM EDT reply actions

I'm only going to answer question #10

Will Reggie Wayne make the Hall of Fame? Yes, I have no doubts about it. It’s like the Rice, Montana, Young triangle. Only in reverse. Peyton, Harrison, Wayne.

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino

by Indy Lori on Jul 28, 2009 10:16 AM EDT reply actions

I was thinking the exact same thing!

Someone mentioned that Wayne started late, so he doesn’t have the stats to be selected as a HOFer, but his situation is similar to Young taking over for Montana. Reggie was groomed to eventually take over the #1 receiver position just like Young was groomed to take over as the starting QB for San Francisco.

"Peyton Manning flow, I just go no huddle."
- Lil' Wayne, Put Some Keys on That

by KMR24 on Jul 28, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions