Get those ugly Michael Vick thoughts out of your heads, Colts fans

by Brad Wells on Aug 10, 2009 10:44 AM EDT in NFL General

Last night, former-Colts coach Tony Dungy (who is now retired and acting as a mentor for former-Falcons QB Michael Vick) was interviewed in the NBC broadcast booth during the Hall of Fame game. Dungy was asked about whether Vick would sign with a team soon:

During Sunday night’s NBC broadcast of the Hall of Fame game, Dungy said, "I’ve talked to quite a few coaches who want to get my thoughts on where (Vick) is."

Dungy says Vick has talked to several teams. Dungy says he believes the former Falcons’ quarterback will be with a team before training camp ends.

One popular rumor is that the Indianapolis Colts are interested in Vick, especially since their longtime back-up QB (Jim Sorgi) just injured his hamstring and will be likely out for the rest of pre-season. But before people start speculating about things they do not understand (like whether Bill Polian will sign Michael Vick because his buddy, Tony Dungy, asked him pretty please), they should take note of the following:

Michael Vick has absolutely no chance to play for the Colts. None. Zero. Their current QB is pretty good (so I'm told) and the Colts have no plans to install any kind of "Wild Cat" offense. So, Vick would just be a walking distraction on the sideline, likely getting more publicity than the players actually playing. The Colts don't mess with B.S. like that. Never have.
While I'm sure (and hopeful) that Vick has rehabilitated himself, the fact is he hasn't played football in over two years, and when he did play he was known as a dumb player. Dumb as in "not very intelligent" when throwing the football. And contrary to popular belief, you must have brains to play quarterback in the NFL. Look no further than the bust known as Vince Young for a more recent example of stupidity under center. To play in the Colts offense, especially the QB position, you must have brains. Indy runs a no-huddle attack that gives the QB the entire playbook to choose from at the line of scrimmage. Somehow, methinks Vick would struggle with this, especially after missing one week of camp.
Jim Caldwell pretty much stated Indy will not pursue Vick.
While Dungy is well respected, and much loved, in the Colts family, the fact is he never had personnel control over the team during his tenure. Polian did. So, while I'm sure Bill Polian has entertained the notion, the decision is squarely his, and knowing Polian he will not touch Vick with a ten foot cattle prong.

In my opinion, teams that will likely make a play for Vick are the Packers, Seahawks, Patriots, or perhaps even the Bears. But the Colts? No way. Get the dirty thought out of your mind.

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For Indy to take Vick. Not one. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. What would he do? No way he would run wildcat, because that would take snaps away from Manning. I guess he could return kicks, but I’m sure there are teams willing to let him take snaps. The biggest impact (and only impact) he would have on the Colts is being a media and probable team distraction. Don’t need it. Don’t want it. I love coach Dungy and respect the man more and more each day for what he has done not only with Vick, but with convicts in general. But he doesn’t fit right with the Colts, and I doubt that TD would try and convince Polian otherwise.

Teams that could land him:

Seattle- old head coach, and an aging, injury prone QB on the decline.

Dallas- Romo is, despite what the media will have you believe, NOT a great starting QB. He is a great teammate, but an average to above average starter with a lot of talent behind him. Plus, Jerry Jones is a circus promoter and is focused more on entertainment and media attention than actual wins and production.

New England- They always sign former stars for whatever reason and sometimes it works out (Dillon, Moss), and sometimes it doesn’t (Seau, John Lynch).

by npb1985 on Aug 10, 2009 11:10 AM EDT reply actions

hello from falcoholic land

We’ve talked about what team we think kciv could land in and the thoughts over there are the Jags, Texans, Seahawks, or Vikings. Now that’s not to say there’s even a shot of him going to any of these teams but you never know.

Jags-Get him in training camp and back to NFL speed and you have an arguement that he’s as good as Leftwich or Garrard

Seahawks-already stated

Texans-I loved Schaub in Atl and still like the guy but he can’t stay healthy. Andre Johnson proved he can put up numbers no matter who is throwing the ball,they have a solid TE in Daniels and kciv loves his TE, and they just lost Sage to the Vikes

Vikings-I think I heard somewhere that Brad C is looking for a QB. I know they have T Jack and Sage but hey who wouldn’t like to watch a team with AP and kciv in the backfield

I don’t even see a small possibility that he ends up in a Colts uniform.

by gritzblitz on Aug 10, 2009 11:37 AM EDT reply actions

I watched Dungy last night on TV,

And here’s what I don’t understand. When Collinsworth asked Tony what kind of physical condition Vick was in, Tony said he didn’t know. But how can you tout a guy without knowing the answer to that?

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino

by Indy Lori on Aug 10, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions

I doubt Polian even entertained the notion. You could see how diplomatic he was about avoiding saying anything like “he sucked 2 years ago and hasn’t played since” in that Eisen interview after the reinstatement.

I think the Wildcat wrinkle is going to be a hugely overrated bust this year too, so he’s not even going to add that much value with his legs either.

BBS, don’t forget – your boy Peter King has a block of seats at the Indians game tonight. You should go watch the game with him. Apparently his meetups aren’t all that popular – I’m thinking of driving down on the theory that I could end up having a fun 3 hour debate with the guy.

by willyduer on Aug 10, 2009 12:04 PM EDT reply actions

The only thought I had in my head last night watching the HoF Game was...

hm. Maybe we should have picked up TO – just to draw double coverage. The guy’s an idiot, but he IS good. I also doubt he would have pulled any of his usual crap with the Colts.

But, Vick? No way. Ever.

btw…how many people besides me are praying VY gets a start against the Colts? Dude was baaaddd.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Aug 10, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions

T.O.?

Please tell me you’re kidding? I’d rather double Marvin’s salary and let him play in a wheelchair than see that piece of crap T.O. ever wear the blue and white!

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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 10, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions

(smile)
That’s they type of reaction I thought I would get.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Aug 10, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions

(counting backwards from 100)

Whew! I thought I was going to bust a blood vessel in my forehead or something. ;)

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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 10, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions

actually

The truth is that T.O can play. As Collinsworth said, he’s immature, but he can PLAY. A duo of T.O. and Reggie would be dangerous. The only reason I would disagree is that Gonzo needs to start now, it’s his turn. And no way T.O. would play in the slot. But if it DID happen, the colts would tear it up, and have NO cap room to work with.

by Colts_and_Cavs_in_09! on Aug 10, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions

It might be worth it...

Just to see Peyton bitch-slap his punk ass when he starts talking smack on the sidelines. Peyton don’t play that shit!

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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 10, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions

I did! I did!

I hope the future of Hall of Famer plays against us. I want him to show Peyton what a real quarterback looks like!

"Peyton Manning flow, I just go no huddle."
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by KMR24 on Aug 10, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Exactly.

Even his scrambling last night was bad and that’s really about all he ever had going for him.

I have a feeling that McNabb would take issue with that whole HoF deal.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Aug 10, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions

no

McNabb would have an issue with the next black QB to win a superbowl. Vince only said that he would make the HOF he didn’t say that he would be the first black QB to make the hall. McNabb, however, will be the next black QB to make the HoF and hopefully win a superbowl.

by Colts_and_Cavs_in_09! on Aug 10, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions

I mis-heard.

I thought VY said he would be the next black QB to make the Hall. Thanks for the correction.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Aug 10, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions

UFL Bound

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by Colts Homer on Aug 10, 2009 12:47 PM EDT reply actions

Seriously BigBlue?

You called Michael Vick stupid and wrote the word “footvall” in the same sentence. That’s hilarious.

by Colts_and_Cavs_in_09! on Aug 10, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions

It's called a typo. Happens to the best of us.

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by Indy Lori on Aug 10, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions

especially me

It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.

by shake n bake on Aug 10, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions

DZ is the reigning king of typos.

I always proofread my comments (except for open threads), because I have been known to correct other people’s mistakes on occasion. I try not to be a hypocrite.

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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Cursed players this year (via my autograph curse): Donald Brown, Fili Moala, Jerraud Powers, Austin Collie, Terrence Taylor, and Curtis Painter.

by Cassieper on Aug 11, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions

The Tony Dungy Influence

Obviously Tony Dungy’s influence on Michael Vick has been limited. Especially since there is now a youtube clip circulating showing Michael Vick hanging with his homies and referring the one of them being his “N” word. Doesn’t appear that Vick has changed his swagger or realizes the need for him to improve the public’s perception about his character. This comes across as being the same old stereotypical stuff that he was doing before his downward spiral.

The youtube clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJOQ5gZawzg

by A Realist on Aug 10, 2009 3:56 PM EDT reply actions

No Offense

But, I really hate it when people are like, “Mike Vick deserves to play in the NFL again! ….But not for my team.”

I don’t care about the extra baggage that come swith Vick, but there are other reasons why he would not work with the Colts. One, being most obvious, we have a pretty good freaking quarterback last time I checked. He is a three time league MVP, isn’t he? Secondly, I don’t see us running the wildcat at all. Peyton Manning establishes the offense, not a RB playing QB, in this case Vick. Thirdly, just because Tony Dungy thinks it would work, doesn’t mean it’s going to happen.

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by The Answer 3 on Aug 10, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions

It's hard to believe

that there is any team out there who would be stupid enough to hire Vick. Besides all the dog-torturing stuff, he can’t hit the side of a barn with his pass.

by Ayrshire on Aug 10, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions