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Colts v. Vikings Game Review: Offensive Struggles, Defensive Standouts

This man dominated the Vikings defense, getting 58 yards on just 5 carries, Friday, Aug. 14, 2009. (AP Photo/Darron Cummings)

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This man dominated the Vikings defense, getting 58 yards on just 5 carries, Friday, Aug. 14, 2009. (AP Photo/Darron Cummings)


This was the regular Colts preseason game.  In the stat sheet and scoreline, it looked very one-sided and like a game that would be hard to take positives from, but I noticed at the game a lot of positives, but of course a few negatives.

~Curtis Painter played horrible.  It was a shame to see him come out and throw 17 passes, almost all of which were bad.

~The stretch play looked great with both Addai and Brown running it, and the running game was good overall.

~Brett McDermott made some nice grabs, and I think Austin Collie should move into the 3rd receiver position after a good game and an embarrassing Garcon drop.

~The "bend but don't break" defense was still in effect even with Coyer, and it worked pretty well after the first drive.

~The fact that no one turned the ball over was good for the offense but not good for the defense.

~It was very funny when the big screen showed the Rosenchoppa highlight.  The Vikings QB situation sucks.  All 3 of their QBs are pathetic.

~Philip Wheeler and a safety were the two positions that blitzed the most.

~Charlie Johnson did not play, so Ugoh played left tackle at the beginning and some right tackle and guard throughout the rest of the game.

~I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure that the video board misspelled "Peyton".  Embarrassing for whomever was running it.

~Daniel Muir played defensive end.  That was pretty weird.

~The Colts have the most dreadlocked players in the league.  Marcus Howard, Philip Wheeler, and Rudolph Hardie are sporting some long dreads while players like Addai have the short dreads.  I'm looking forward to seeing Peyton Manning, Austin Collie and Justin Snow get their dreads.

~Pat McAfee punted full time for the first time in his career (he punted and kicked in college), and he averaged 50 yards net while punting on seven kicks. That's both outstanding kicking and outstanding coverage. --BBS

After the jump will be my top 5 Colts and an updated roster prediction.

Star-divide

5. Tony Ugoh, OT/OG: I know that we made a big deal about his demotion, and I think he took it personal because he played great.  The first drive was pretty bad for everyone on the line, but the rest of the game Ugoh was near perfect.  As a guard he opened up huge holes and created the running game.  The pass protection from him was beautiful compared to Corey Hilliard's.  This only reaffirms me that Ugoh will be a starter by Week One.

4. Adrian Grady, DT: It seemed like for a stretch in the third quarter, Grady was getting every tackle.  He smashed running backs who dared to run up the middle.  The defensive tackles were really unimpressive in this game, but Grady was the exception.  He was a sure tackler which is what the defense needs right now, and he dominated the right guard for the Vikings.

3. Marcus Howard, DE: If you didn't watch the game and just looked at the stats sheet, Howard would seem like a weird pick for the third best Colt, but he was the best pass rusher in the game on both sides.  Howard got consistent pressure on Jackson and tortured him.  If the Colts were playing the Jaguars with slow David Garrard instead of the mobile Tarvaris Jackson, Howard would have had three sacks at least.  I expect Howard to get a lot of playing time this season.

2. Matt Giordano, S: I now have no doubt that the Colts have the best defensive backs in the league.  Even without the corners they are the best.  A Melvin Bullitt and Matt Giordano starting safety duo would be top 10 in the league.  Matt Giordano is the most sure tackler I've seen play for the Colts.  While players like Philip Wheeler and Ed Johnson missed some tackles, Giordano shut down anyone who got near him.  There are too many good safeties on the team.  Silva played well too.  I'm hoping all five make the roster.

1. Donald Brown, RB: Wow.  That's all I can say.  Brown was unbelievable.  His long run was a thing of beauty, and he was consistent in his small amount of playing time.  If he can be that explosive in the regular season, I have no doubt that he will be a ROY candidate and carry the rushing game to top 16 in the league.  Compared to Addai, Brown took off like a rocket when he got the ball.  Polian and Co. made a great pick taking Brown.  This guy is going to be very special.

So here is my roster prediction.  Can they give the Colts a 63 player roster because there are too many good players to cut.

QB
Peyton Manning
Jim Sorgi

RB
Joseph Addai
Donald Brown
Mike Hart

H-B
Gijon Robinson
Tom Santi

WR
Reggie Wayne
Anthony Gonzalez
Austin Collie
Pierre Garcon

TE
Dallas Clark
Jacob Tamme

LT
Tony Ugoh

LG
Ryan Lilja
Jamey Richard

C
Jeff Saturday
Steve Justice

RG
Mike Pollak
Dan Federkeil

RT
Ryan Diem
Charlie Johnson

LE
Robert Mathis
Marcus Howard
Keyunta Dawson

UT
Ed Johnson
Fili Moala
Eric Foster
Adrian Grady

NT
Antonio Johnson
Daniel Muir
Terrance Taylor

RE
Dwight Freeney
Raheem Brock

SAM
Philip Wheeler
Tyjuan Hagler

MIKE
Gary Brackett
Adam Seward

WILL
Clint Session
Freddy Keiaho

CB
Kelvin Hayden
Marlin Jackson
Dante Hughes
Tim Jennings
Jerraud Powers

FS
Antoine Bethea
Matt Giordano
Jamie Silva

SS
Bob Sanders
Melvin Bullitt

K
Adam Vinatieri

P
Pat McAfee

LS
Justin Snow

Practice Squad
QB Curtis Painter
RB Lance Ball
WR John Matthews
WR Taj Smith
OL Jaimie Thomas
DL Rudolph Hardie
LB Ramon Humber
DB Jacob Lacey

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I hadn't felt good about the game

until I heard (and later got confirmation from the highlights) that the pass pro issues where pretty much entirely on Corey Hilliard.

The rest of the first team line seemed good. Addai had a real nice stretch run, Brown was great. I think once they get Hilliard out of the lineup the line will do ok and they’ll do more than ok if Ugoh earns his LT spot back.

The D doesn’t worry me too much because they played without the top 5 DBs on the roster so the poor coverage and secondary tackling isn’t exactly a shocker especially with some blitzes being sent.

It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.

by shake n bake on Aug 15, 2009 1:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

True

But then doesn’t that take us right back to the problems from last year? A total lack of depth on the o-line!

by Colts Syndrome on Aug 15, 2009 6:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brown impressed.

He got a lot of love from the crowd as well, I wonder if Addai noticed that?

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino

by Indy Lori on Aug 15, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if anyone is still awake

you can catch the whole game right now on channelsurfing.net. Just click on the NFL Network logo and you can watch the replay right now

by metal_militia on Aug 15, 2009 1:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Painter

for a rookie that was thrown to the fire early on in our complex offense, it’s kind of a stretch to say he played horrible.

I'd donate a kidney in exchange for Pdiddy and my colts to get 2 more Super Bowl rings...That's LUV

by Bama Blue on Aug 15, 2009 1:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no way...

Painter gets cut LOL. Absurd.

~SHaFF!~
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http://www.thelittlesportsblog.blogspot.com/

by SHaFF87 on Aug 15, 2009 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never saw Painter making the roster.

The Colts will not cut Sorgi and they will never carry a 3rd QB. This guy isn’t our future. Makes me wonder why they drafted him…I know they got him late, but as everyone here knows, we could have used a OL guy for depth, if nothing else.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Aug 15, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll bet you $500

they carry three QBs.

The only way they don’t is if Sorgi stays hurt.

by willyduer on Aug 15, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just think we could use that roster spot

for a position that we need depth, that’s all. Like, I don’t know, the OL?

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Aug 15, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree. But they wouldn’t waste a pick on someone they’d just cut immediately.

I bet they’ll carry ten OL anyway. What sucks is that a DB and/or LB is going to lose a job for this. Though if you ask me, the biggest waste of roster space is having to carry a separate long snapper. Nothing against Snow, but I just don’t get why noone else can handle that job. They didn’t even have anyone else attempt it as a backup last night late in the game.

by willyduer on Aug 15, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dave Kimball, Anthony Davis

"I saw a commercial on late night TV, it said,'Forget everything you know about slipcovers.' So I did. And it was a load off my mind. Then the commercial tried to sell me slipcovers, and I didn't know what the hell they were."
-Mitch Hedberg

by Colts Homer on Aug 15, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm probably in the minority here

but I didn’t think Painter looked terrible. I was impressed by his athleticism, especially throwing across his body on the run.

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Aug 15, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Throwing across his body on the run (did he complete the tosses?)

is huge.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Aug 15, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

IIRC, he completed 1 of 2

but both had good zip and were on or near target

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Aug 15, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not bad for a rookie thrown into the fire.

Sounds like there’s some potential there. I still don’t want them to carry 3 QBs on the active roster…

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Aug 15, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

However

They have only held two Qb’s on the roster in the past because Hunter the Punter was 3rd on the depth chart.

by Colts Syndrome on Aug 16, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, he did complete them

One that stands out was to Austin Collie. Anyone else aside from Wayne probably wouldn’t have hauled it in.

by the_iowa_hawkeye on Aug 17, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If painter isnt on the roster...

what do we do at the end of the season when Sorgi is a FA…. we don’t really want him back. He manages the offense, but if we can’t RUN the ball, we won’t win games with him as QB if Manning goes down for some reason. They want their backup of the future, and it’s Painter. He will get a roster spot this year without a doubt.

~SHaFF!~
The Little Sports Blog That Could:
http://www.thelittlesportsblog.blogspot.com/

by SHaFF87 on Aug 21, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Does anyone remember Joe Flacco’s first preseason game. He fumbled the snap twice in a row if I remember correctly – and he didn’t complete a single pass. Yet his season seemed to work out rather well I would say. It’s crazy to try and judge a new rookie on thier first preseason game alone.

by the_iowa_hawkeye on Aug 15, 2009 3:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I’m with you. If Sorgi isn’t hurt he doesn’t even play until the 4th quarter!

by Colts Syndrome on Aug 15, 2009 6:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

from what i saw of the highlights

Pollak looked pretty good. what say you shake?

by metal_militia on Aug 15, 2009 1:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't notice him from

my seat in the stands, which is always a good thing.

Now a proud annoyance on Stampede Blue, 18to88, Indy Football Report, and Phil B's blog.

Man, I need a life...

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Cursed players this year (via my autograph curse): Donald Brown, Fili Moala, Jerraud Powers, Austin Collie, Terrence Taylor, and Curtis Painter.

by Cassieper on Aug 15, 2009 3:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

im guessing

that not noticing a player means, that you didnt notice any screw ups.

by metal_militia on Aug 15, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

You got it.

Now a proud annoyance on Stampede Blue, 18to88, Indy Football Report, and Phil B's blog.

Man, I need a life...

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Cursed players this year (via my autograph curse): Donald Brown, Fili Moala, Jerraud Powers, Austin Collie, Terrence Taylor, and Curtis Painter.

by Cassieper on Aug 15, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

This was my first outdoor pro football game in Indianapolis. It was nice.

"I saw a commercial on late night TV, it said,'Forget everything you know about slipcovers.' So I did. And it was a load off my mind. Then the commercial tried to sell me slipcovers, and I didn't know what the hell they were."
-Mitch Hedberg

by Colts Homer on Aug 15, 2009 1:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

pretty sweet experience for sure

"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."

by psvirsky on Aug 15, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just a beautiful skyline at night.

Already can’t wait for the Pats game.

Now a proud annoyance on Stampede Blue, 18to88, Indy Football Report, and Phil B's blog.

Man, I need a life...

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Cursed players this year (via my autograph curse): Donald Brown, Fili Moala, Jerraud Powers, Austin Collie, Terrence Taylor, and Curtis Painter.

by Cassieper on Aug 15, 2009 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Richard, Ugoh and Pollak were all good tonight. I really think that the offensive line is better than people say as long as Corey Hilliard isn’t playing. I was scared for Peyton. If the run blocking is good, the team will be great. It was tonight. That’s for sure.

"I saw a commercial on late night TV, it said,'Forget everything you know about slipcovers.' So I did. And it was a load off my mind. Then the commercial tried to sell me slipcovers, and I didn't know what the hell they were."
-Mitch Hedberg

by Colts Homer on Aug 15, 2009 1:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was terrified for Peyton.

After the second time he was touched, I was screaming for them to pull him out, and when they did the Tom Brady tackle on Peyton a few plays later, my heart nearly stopped.

Now a proud annoyance on Stampede Blue, 18to88, Indy Football Report, and Phil B's blog.

Man, I need a life...

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Cursed players this year (via my autograph curse): Donald Brown, Fili Moala, Jerraud Powers, Austin Collie, Terrence Taylor, and Curtis Painter.

by Cassieper on Aug 15, 2009 3:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that was scary

Three sacks and ALL of them were nail-biters. Peyton’s a tough SOB though.

by slash196 on Aug 15, 2009 5:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your heart AND mine.

I couldn’t stand it. You think you were screaming? You should have heard me!

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino

by Indy Lori on Aug 15, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I watched the replay that night

and I think I DID hear you – lol!

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Aug 16, 2009 8:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad you couldn't SEE me.

Because I yanked my jersey off in disgust. (I was clothed underneath). LOL

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino

by Indy Lori on Aug 18, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On Tv...

It looked like the DE that got around Hilliard was so shocked how easy it was that he barely tackled Peyton.

by Colts Syndrome on Aug 15, 2009 6:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Predicted Roster

No way that Powers gets cut so soon. And I doubt Painter gets limited to the practice squad.

by Daniel B on Aug 15, 2009 1:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not a chance

you can’t go to the PS unless you clear waivers. He wouldn’t. Neither would Ball, unfortunately. Chances are the practice squad will end up having several guys who aren’t in camp currently. It sucks to not keep all of your own guys, but it always happens that way. Other teams will cherry pick the cuts and we’ll end up with other guys that got cut elsewhere.

by willyduer on Aug 15, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

unless it's been editted

you just missed Powers on the list. He’s on there. 5th CB listed.

It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.

by shake n bake on Aug 15, 2009 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

and it should say “cut at all”. There is no chance that kid gets cut. In fact he may start.

by willyduer on Aug 15, 2009 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see that happening

unless Hayden and Jackson are simultaneously injured for the Jags game.

Now a proud annoyance on Stampede Blue, 18to88, Indy Football Report, and Phil B's blog.

Man, I need a life...

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Cursed players this year (via my autograph curse): Donald Brown, Fili Moala, Jerraud Powers, Austin Collie, Terrence Taylor, and Curtis Painter.

by Cassieper on Aug 15, 2009 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They won’t both be out. But how many total games have they had both starters healthy in the past few years?

If Marlin isn’t 100% yet from the knee, don’t be surprised to see him out there.

Not trying to imply that this is likely. Just that it’s more likely than him being cut.

by willyduer on Aug 15, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well it sounds like that if we need him

he’s a viable alternative, at least. Not bad for a rook.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Aug 15, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I edited it

I first had Rushing there. I always forget Powers for some reason. He played well last night along with Jacob Lacey and Travis Key.

"I saw a commercial on late night TV, it said,'Forget everything you know about slipcovers.' So I did. And it was a load off my mind. Then the commercial tried to sell me slipcovers, and I didn't know what the hell they were."
-Mitch Hedberg

by Colts Homer on Aug 15, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry

Im just now watching the re-air on NFL Network. Wtf is up? where is Charlie Johnson?

Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis

by hoosier in sodak on Aug 15, 2009 1:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought Johnson would be bad

Hilliard is horrible!!!

Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis

by hoosier in sodak on Aug 15, 2009 1:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No joke.

It really shows our lack of depth at OT. You’ve got Ugoh and Diem as the (hopeful) starters, and then you have Charlie to back up both, while he also stinks at LT. Not good….

Now a proud annoyance on Stampede Blue, 18to88, Indy Football Report, and Phil B's blog.

Man, I need a life...

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Cursed players this year (via my autograph curse): Donald Brown, Fili Moala, Jerraud Powers, Austin Collie, Terrence Taylor, and Curtis Painter.

by Cassieper on Aug 15, 2009 3:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CJ stinks at LT

but I think hw’a ok at guard and RT. Shoot, he’s played every position on the line except center. I’m not a CJ hater – just at LT.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Aug 15, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man oh man...

I know it’s a preseason game but I don’t think I’ve ever seen manning go down so many in a four min period. Watching him tonight kinda scared me…but it still is only a preseason game. It’s good that the o-line holds up better on the new madden I’ve ran threw a few people already so if you want to to get down my game tag is specopskidd on the 360.

Pat Wilson

by PatrickWilson7 on Aug 15, 2009 1:27 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Hey

Atleast he already has that fear of getting hit over with! Consider me a positive thinker, I guess.

by Colts Syndrome on Aug 15, 2009 6:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

Always good to get that first hit out of the way in preseason.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Aug 15, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even

Tom Brady said he wished he had gotten that over with…though – getting hit 3x is excessive!

by Colts Syndrome on Aug 16, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah just saw that right now on NFLN

again, if you guys couldnt watch the game like me, go to www.channelsurfing.net and click on the NFL Network logo. They are showing it right now

by metal_militia on Aug 15, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And to sum it up...

I watched the postgame interview and shook my head. The only person who showed any frustration was Peyton. Guess that’s part of the reason he is as good as he is, pride. I don’t see it in the other players. Only guys they interviewed who had good games were Brown and McAfee. Moala could give up twenty sacks in a game and he would be happy go lucky talking about building on his performance. lol

by strandedincarolina on Aug 15, 2009 1:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How does a D Lineman give up sacks?

(I assume you mean all his penalties. I was surprised to see that he wasn’t out there till so late, but then less surprised once I saw how he played. He has work to do. Of course, so does everyone.)

by willyduer on Aug 15, 2009 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Offisides Penalties

That was another thing that had me shaking my head. Isn’t the first thing you learn as a D lineman to watch the ball and not jump at a snap count?? They jumped offsides way too much. That should be an easy correction though.

"I'm looking for Ray Finkle....and a clean pair of shorts."

by AceOfSpades on Aug 15, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't watch any interviews

but from the sounds of it, Caldwell was beyond frustrated. I think the players will absorb that this week… they’re probably not used to the new sheriff and that this isn’t Dungy’s “pre-season is for experiments and adjustments” way any more…

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Aug 16, 2009 8:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Are you kidding me? Painter did fine. He was running for his life the entire game and showed excellent poise and made good decisions. I’ll agree that his throws were poor, but they weren’t entirely dangerous (ie, at least they typically fell short rather than sailing way off the mark). Correct me if I’m wrong, but he did throw a pick, didn’t he? Or was that the other kid?

Hilliard was awful but I saw other missed assignments on the line. I would only say that Ugoh played OK at LT, not great. Improved after that first series. If Hilliard and Toudouze aren’t cut in the first round, I’ll be very surprised.

Brown got lucky that a second string DE was on the field on that big run. That wouldn’t have happened in a real game. His other runs impressed me more, as did Addai’s big run around the right side.

Dan Muir at end is likely just because they needed a body there. The guy has no speed off the line, so there can’t be any benefit to putting him there for real. Otherwise I wasn’t impressed by anyone on the line, new or old. Only occasional penetration, and when there was, they missed the tackles. Polian said that they had a really rough week of practice though, so that’s likely why everyone seemed to be in slow motion.

Jamie Silva was impressive, and once the first quarter ended, that kid Key (#30) looked pretty good. He was flying around. Jamey Richard had two consecutive excellent blocks too, I think they may have been on the Brown runs. Good for him. It sucks for him though that he’ll be much better this year, but is likely to play much less.

I liked Collie and McAfee a lot.

by willyduer on Aug 15, 2009 1:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Muir

If Muir makes the final roster, I think he will be a backup. Antonio Johnson is a much better space eater and can penetrate the line and make plays. Muir was just “there.”

Ed Johnson looked a little rusty too but that is to be expected.

Collie is going to be good. He caught everything!

"I'm looking for Ray Finkle....and a clean pair of shorts."

by AceOfSpades on Aug 15, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I won’t pretend that Muir did anything special last night. But from what I’ve heard about camp, he’s going to be more important to the team than any of us expected from last year/last night.

by willyduer on Aug 15, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the 3rd wide receiver spot is Collie's to lose

He definitely played better than Garcon tonight.

Hillard was awful. He will be cut at the next rounds of cuts. The o-line wasn’t as bad as I expected, but Peyton was on his back more than a $2 crack whore. That has to change fast.

Matt Giordano is pretty damn good. Dude grabbed Adrian Peterson by his waist and threw him down! The Colts secondary is gonna really good even if Bobzilla is hurt for some games, but scary good when he’s there.

 I think the 1st defensive unit did well on 3rd downs, but I guess the defense was a little shocked that Minny went for it of 4th down, so they blew some plays…I guess?

I’m still disappointed with the special teams punt/kickoff returns. They better bring it in the next preseason games and regular season.

"Peyton Manning flow, I just go no huddle."
- Lil' Wayne, Put Some Keys on That

by KMR24 on Aug 15, 2009 2:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: going for it It's preseason

much easier for coaches to have a pair and take the unconventional “risk” that actually isn’t one. Going on 4th down in the opposing teams territory is a play that helps teams in short to mid distance, but can get a coach fired because when it fails everyone freaks out because it was against the conventional wisdom.

It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.

by shake n bake on Aug 15, 2009 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh yeah

Regular season we had two 3 and outs!

by Colts Syndrome on Aug 15, 2009 6:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe

those were both pretty good calls even in a legit game. Kicking, especially on the first one, would be a chickenshit move. (Taking the points on the 2nd one would be fine, of course… I believe they were well within range, right?)

by willyduer on Aug 15, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so...

Maybe on the second one, but the first one had to be a punt – I meant 1st quarter no score and you’ll got for it on a 4th and like 2? Then again – they do have A.P.

by Colts Syndrome on Aug 16, 2009 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thoughts

Blue you seriously missed some big contributions

Austin Collie looked fantastic for the short time he was in the game – caught every pass thrown his way

How about them special teams? mcafee looks like the real deal and rychelski looks to have done a nice job

The offense was horrible – it was painful to watch Peyton get sacked twice in less than 5 plays – heart attack bad

Donald Brown is a stud – would like to see him play some first team offense

The defense didn’t look great at all – Sage and friends had their way with us in the first half there are some serious adjustments needed here

All that being said it is just the first preseason game and we should be used to going down the first 4-5 games as history says that we typically don’t make much noise in the preseason – hell – there’s no trophies awarded for it

by PaytonMenning on Aug 15, 2009 2:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't worry about the offense

In 2005 our first team offense scored like 3 points in 4 preseason games and everyone was screaming “Sophomore Slump!” Then we scored 61 points in our first 2 regular season games. Surprised that you gave up 200 rushing yards to Vikes RB’s other than AP, though.

Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever.
Napoleon Bonaparte

by LV Steelers Fan on Aug 15, 2009 4:00 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Well AP was only in there for one drive.

Only so much damage he can do in that time.

Now a proud annoyance on Stampede Blue, 18to88, Indy Football Report, and Phil B's blog.

Man, I need a life...

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Cursed players this year (via my autograph curse): Donald Brown, Fili Moala, Jerraud Powers, Austin Collie, Terrence Taylor, and Curtis Painter.

by Cassieper on Aug 15, 2009 4:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The chunk of those yards

were against the guys fighting to make the team

by npb1985 on Aug 15, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

donald brown looked like the same explosive donald brown in college and why I screamed in joy when they picked him in the first round. while alot of other colts fans frowned and wanted D I knew this was a good pick. polian is a master and thats going to be another marvin harrison pick results IMO

the offensive line scares me. when peyton is getting sacked 3 times in preseason and he only plays a few downs that is not good

by kinnickcolt on Aug 15, 2009 4:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Defense

I think a major reason the defense did (appear) so poor is because they don’t actually tackle in practice. This was the first time they actually got to get out there and hit people. I’d say they can work on some things but some players definately stood out with their ability to wrap up…Giordano comes to mind.

I think the same questions most people have had on here are still there - the downfall of this team will be the O-line. Even if Ugoh gets his shit together – we appear to have absolutely no depth!

by Colts Syndrome on Aug 15, 2009 6:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Giordano's open-field tackle

on the best RB in the league at the line of scrimmage was a thing of beauty.

by HoosierHorseman on Aug 15, 2009 7:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

textbook

The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in the stars, but in ourselves.

by Coltsfan58 on Aug 15, 2009 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was great

AP thrives on getting you going one way and then going the other. Gio just stayed at home and let him TRY to get past him and then tossed him in the dirt. The rest of the D could learn a thing or two from him.

by slash196 on Aug 15, 2009 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Happy the games have begun, but...

The local television coverage was beyond awful. When they weren’t conducting interviews (i.e., prompting players to spout cliches) and not following the play on the field, the camera position was in, say, Beech Grove. For an organization which usually spends its money wisely, the Colts have paid for laughably bad production values.

On the field, a couple of points not mentioned in the game threads or above.

1. While I agree with others that Jacob Lacey made some good hits, on the long ball Jackson threw into the endzone I thought Lacey was out of position. The receiver did not get behind him (good) but a poorly-thrown ball by Jackson (I know you’re shocked) might have been picked. I see potential in this kid, but with the existing depth he looks like the initials PS will appear next to his name on September 6.

2. Kyle DeVan made a nice sealing block on Brown’s first carry.

3. If these are the new, improved special teams I’m disappointed. Kick coverage was about the same as last year. You can’t really say well, these aren’t the units we’ll see in the regular year, because a lot of the reserves who played most of this game will be reserves who play on regular season special teams. Can anyone explain Powers’ decision to field the punt inside the five? I understand (or at least I’m guessing, due to the poor TV coverage) that he thought he had a clear path to some yardage, because perhaps the Minnesota punter out-kicked his coverage, but still. Perhaps this was nothing more than a young guy pressing to make a play.

4. I thought Dante Hughes looked good. Not used to typing that sentence.

5. Could anyone say Eric Foster did anything? I saw him on the field but I couldn’t tell that he made any contribution.

6. Chad Simpson, Chad Simpson. Paging Chad Simpson. You’re asked to meet with the coaches and bring your playbook…Couldn’t get a good handle on how Rushing is coming back, but my handle on Simpson as a returner (ugh) and as a back (ugh again) was all too painfully clear. Lance Ball has got to be ahead of Simpson.

7. Wil Wofford, not usually a font of insight, made the point on post-game radio that the Vikings dressed 79 players (only Pat Williams—apparently out shopping for supplements—didn’t play) and seemed to come into this game with much more of a regular season intensity. The Colts, of course, didn’t have about 15 people available. That doesn’t account for those that did play being a step slow, but the two teams approaches to the game did appear markedly different.

8. I said in a post yesterday I wanted to see something make Caldwell explode and get his red ass on. The sideline shots of him looked like he was either expecting this ugly performance and was internalizing his frustration to channel it back in practice or that he was stunned that his team could play so poorly that he was unable to express his displeasure. The postgame press conference seemed to confirm the former. But if Corey Hilliard’s decision to let the Vikings have a free run at #18 doesn’t piss you off, either you can overlook a lot or you have great self-composure skills.

9. After seeing the Colts play relatively well against Tavaris Jackson, I wish Michael Vick could play Thursday. Defensive speed seems to negate so much of what mobile quarterbacks bring to the table.

My God, let’s get to the regular season.

The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in the stars, but in ourselves.

by Coltsfan58 on Aug 15, 2009 8:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TV Coverage

Agree 100% about the television coverage. The preseason coverage has been bad for several years now. Notice how they always have 1st and 10 up as down and distance instead of what the actual distance is. Sometimes they don’t put anything up at all!! You have to listen to the play by play guys to find out what the yardage is, and several times during the game I muted the TV because I couldn’t stand listening to those guys.

It was laughable at best.

"I'm looking for Ray Finkle....and a clean pair of shorts."

by AceOfSpades on Aug 15, 2009 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awful game.

But I disagree that Painter was bad. For me, he actually showed an ability to throw on the run. Poor Peyton, he never had a chance last night. Howard Mudd needs to get to work with those boys. My only consolation is that the Colts always stink during pre-season.

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino

by Indy Lori on Aug 15, 2009 8:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Painter

I thought his feet looked great. When flushed out of the pocket, he was able to move well and get into position to throw well. However, is actual passes were terrible and he made a lot of rookie mistakes as it relates to looking downfield instead of worrying where the rush was coming from.

"I'm looking for Ray Finkle....and a clean pair of shorts."

by AceOfSpades on Aug 15, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Observations

1. Good thing Corey Hilliard isn’t the starting RT or else we may not win more than 5 games. His play was dreadful.

2. Addai played well, but Brown gives us that big play potential that we have been missing. I am looking forward to seeing how the running game does this year.

3. The defense in general had a really bad game. You can’t really blame it on scheme because they were in the right positions to make plays, but COULDN’T TACKLE ANYONE. It was bad, reminded me of the defense in 01 & 02.

4. The backup DBs and Safeties are decent, but made a lot of backup mistakes. I am looking forward to having the starters out there. The Vikings took advantage of the inexperience and lack of talent with early throws, especially on the first two drives.

5. Curtis Painter is not good.

6. Peyton could have done more. He had no protection, but looked flustered even when he had time to throw the ball. Also, his ability to pull the ball down and make a play while running with the ball is absolutely zero. I know that’s not what we ask of him, but he’ll never be confused with Roethlisberger or even Brady for that matter when it comes to making a play with his feet.

7. This game was about what I would expect from the Colts in a first preseason game. I thought the defense would show a little more movement before the snap and the first offense would do more, but with that many backups in the game it is easy to see why they looked rusty.

BEST PART: No injuries to any key players!

"I'm looking for Ray Finkle....and a clean pair of shorts."

by AceOfSpades on Aug 15, 2009 9:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

mathis

Was shown heading to the locker room early – so don’t speak so soon!

by Colts Syndrome on Aug 15, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You

say Painter sucks but didnt he have the same exact protection that Peyton had for the most part? At least he could avoid defenders and get throws off.

by jeremycrackcorn on Aug 15, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Painter had the same protection that Peyton had,

He’d be breathing through a tube by now.

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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Cursed players this year (via my autograph curse): Donald Brown, Fili Moala, Jerraud Powers, Austin Collie, Terrence Taylor, and Curtis Painter.

by Cassieper on Aug 15, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO!

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Aug 15, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Special Teams

McAfee is a stud, and it seems like he almost kicks the ball too far sometimes.

The kickoff and punt coverage seemed good, but the return game still needs a lot of work. The blocking is alright, but Rushing or Simpson or whoever they had out there seemed really slow and it was pathetic.

"I'm looking for Ray Finkle....and a clean pair of shorts."

by AceOfSpades on Aug 15, 2009 9:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Painter

Completely disagree with your assessment of Painter. He wasn’t horrible. In fact, he has the NFL arm Sorgi doesn’t have especially on the out routes. The FO has already stated they will carry 3 QBs so your depth chart needs to be adjusted.

by All4Indiana on Aug 15, 2009 10:48 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Corey Hillird was awful & most of the team was emotionless..

You would think they were ready to hit someone. Painter had no chance with the horrible O-line play, no QB looks good under that kind of pressure i.e. Brady vs NYG.
Kudos to Donald Brown & Joe, the only bright spots in the game

by raiders1980 on Aug 15, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

10 Notes from game

1) Brown. Unbelievable performance for first time out. Competition makes all RBs better and our tandem will be a force. DeAngelo WIlliams, for lack of a better word, SUCKED before Stewart arrived. When Stewart arrived, Williams proceeded to be awesome and give me a fantasy championship. Addai will see a season similar to Williams, and if he doesn’t, watch out for Brown taking over the majority of carries.

2) Adrian Grady dominated the Vikings scrubs. He will both make the team and push for playing time. Look out Eric Foster.

3) Marcus Howard will be an absolute stud. Tavaris Jackson is much more athletic than your average QB, most of whom would have spent the majority of time on their back last night, courtesy of Howard.

4) Addai looked great in limited PT with sketchy blocking.

5) Corey Hilliard blows and should have been cut mid 2nd quarter. We were playing with three linemen. Saturday and Lilja looked a bit rusty, but not too bad. They will be fine. Ugoh looked good and will start. Who knows with CJ.

6) Adrian Peterson is the best RB in the game and probably the best overall player. Our run D looked excellent for the most part in that first series. The D held their own without their starting 2ndary.

7) Chad Simpson has no business returning kicks or being on the field ever. Put Garcon or Powers back there or even consider signing someone like Forsett again. Simpson was awful.

8) Collie is a lock for 3rd WR and is a stud. He will be a great player. Garcon looked mediocre at best.

9) Painter did NOT suck as much as everyone wants to say that. He completed his first 5 of 9 for 45 yds. Not bad for your first time out there against many first teamers. After this happened, yeah, he pretty much started to suck. But he showed a little bit of promise. Plus, it’s not like he’ll play in front of Sorgi.

10) Preseason is a constant scare tactic for us Colts fans and I hate it. ROBERT MATHIS BETTER BE OKAY.

by npb1985 on Aug 15, 2009 1:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

re: Painter

I just posted on another thread that I thought he wasn’t that bad, either. Athletic guy who probably just needs to get more comfortable at this level.

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Aug 15, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Simpson

He pretty much sucked last year. My disdain from him was solidified when he fumbled (well, the refs didn’t call it a fumble after the review – but he did fumble, we lucked out on that call) during the playoff game – on, like the 3 yard line. There is NO FREAKIN’ WAY he should return anything. Except, maybe his playbook.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Aug 15, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rip

Painter as much as you want but only getting sacked twice with that horrible O-line was pretty note-worthy. Notice in 6 snaps Manning got sacked three times if i am correct. For having to make nearly every throw on the run or under pressure I would say he did pretty well for his first ever pro football experience. As for sorgi we could rid of him for all i care, he is a hurt back up and has no future playing anywhere in the NFL. Painter is still young and has a chance to make a name for himself.

by jeremycrackcorn on Aug 15, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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