Colts v. Lions: Players to Look For
It's the starters' preseason game. 5 starters are out (Brock, Lilja, Sanders, Vinatieri and Hayden), but we will see Peyton, Wayne, Gonzalez, Charlie Johnson, Robert Mathis, Dwight Freeney and all of those guys playing in the second quarter. After seeing what happened to Tom Brady against the Redskins, I am much more nervous for this game than I should be. All it takes is a right defensive end getting to Peyton, hitting him on his blindside and hurting his shoulder like what they did to Brady. Good thing the Colts are starting their most talented left tackle...Oh wait.
Charlie Johnson
This is Johnson's game. He has to keep Peyton standing up or else we will see Ugoh at left tackle in Week One. Ugoh has outplayed Johnson in the preseason so far, and if it happens again, Mudd and Caldwell can't justify starting Johnson. The most important thing about the offense is to keep Peyton Manning on his feet so he can throw a few touchdowns a game. If that doesn't happen, someone needs to go. In this case, it is Johnson. If a right end nails Manning I will be very upset with Caldwell and Mudd for not starting the better left tackle.
The rest are after the jump.
Sorgi is back! Get happy, everyone. Sorgi will be able to play so the "Out with the old, in with the new" fallacy will go away now. We will see that Sorgi is better than Painter and people can be quiet about that. He won't throw off his back foot in the redzone directly to a defender. He won't scramble out at any kind of pressure and throw on the run instead of stepping up in the pocket. I think once people see Sorgi on the field again they will realize how much of a better player he is than Curtis Painter.
Garcon really needs to play well if he is going to see the field this year. He's dropping too many passes. I'm not Peyton Manning and I don't know how he thinks, but dropping a Peyton Manning pass would probably be the equivalent of dropping someone's baby. That's not going to fly in the regular season. Austin Collie is really good as we have seen. Caldwell and Co. aren't going to send out players just because. Garcon has to earn his spot on the field. So far he hasn't done that. If he drops some passes today it will be hard to justify him actually playing.
I want to see him do something. I want to see him get to Matt Stafford and punish him for coming out early. Moala has been rather quiet this preseason. I was expecting him to make some more noise. Today is his chance. The defensive tackle position is very crowded. He needs to live up to expectations pretty quickly if he wants to see the field early and often. With the Johnsons appearing to be the starters for Week Two, Moala needs to make a case that he is starter material for Week One.
Humber has to keep on playing like he has. Adam Seward is gone, so he now has a great chance on making the roster. He is in a big competition with Freddie Keiaho and Jordan Senn for a roster spot, and he is definitely the least experienced being a UDFA. The fact that Keiaho has a job in this league shows how much experience matters to the Colts. Humber has been really good, and he has a great chance of actually making the final cut, but he will have to prove to be better than Keiaho and Senn.
Like I was saying above, Keiaho is definitely not guaranteed to make the roster. Hell, the only reason he is with the team is that they weren't comfortable with the backup linebackers. I'm sure if they front office and Caldwell knew how good Senn and Humber would turn out to be they wouldn't have signed him. Keiaho has to earn a spot like every other backup linebacker. Seward getting cut shows that no backups are locks to be on the final roster. Keiaho is not one of the top 6 Colts linebackers right now, and he has to step it up if he wants to make the 53 man squad.
He is just not that good. Jennings is not as good as Jerraud Powers, and it has shown this preseason. Jacob Lacey has even played much better. It's not just keeping the nickel back spot. It's keeping a roster spot. Jennings has not had the career a second round pick should have. Jennings has to justify that he is better than Jerraud Powers who has been a nice surprise.
This is the best preseason game for looking at the starters. For the most part people put way too much stock into the preseason. I feel bad for the people who use the preseason to draft for fantasy. It's obvious that teams don't really care how good players do in the preseason. That's why Lance Ball is a Colt and not a Ram. Ball was phenomenal in his rookie year's preseason with the Rams, but he didn't make the final roster. This third game is different. It is now just two long weeks until the season starts. For this game we will see a lot of the starters. If Mike Pollak struggles it will be something of concern unlike the first two preseason games. The same goes with all of the question mark starters. If you really want to put stock into a preseason game, today is your day.
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Fili
Don’t know where the mindset that he’s gotta start from day one comes from. Think people forget that Freeney was a MUCH higher pick and he didn’t start right off.
I'd donate a kidney in exchange for Pdiddy and my colts to get 2 more Super Bowl rings...That's LUV
by Bama Blue on Aug 29, 2009 1:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't sound like anyone's saying he HAS to...
…but I’m sure from his perspective he’d like to, and if so, today would be a good day for him to come out and have a productive game.
by LTTelamon on Aug 29, 2009 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A la Freeney
Funny you said that, I had the same thought reading the spot. Freeney, Sanders, Hayden. None started right away. They learned the system, or healed up in Sanders case – a troubling trend that hasn’t changed – and they have excelled. Rooks rarely make splash except at RB maybe. If he is still slow to catch on in a year, then I think we can get impatient.
by EnSsRex on Aug 29, 2009 10:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Freeney didn't "start"
until mid-season, but he was certainly in the rotation and put up 13 sacks his rookie year. That’s not exactly a slow start.
by slash196 on Aug 29, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude lay off Painter
He’s a freaking rookie. Pardon me, he’s a freaking 6th round rookie. Yes, Sorgi is more experienced and will obviously get to be the guy to hold the clipboard. And even though you won’t admit it for whatever sinister reason you have against him, Painter hasn’t looked terrible. Stafford and Sanchez have struggled greatly and both are top 5 picks. Painter is not, and has struggled just a little bit more than they have. I don’t know why you hate him so much, but he is going to be at least a decent backup one day.
by npb1985 on Aug 29, 2009 1:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, we can at least agree
It’s far too soon to be passing judgment on Painter based on what we’ve seen so far. Painter has looked… like a rookie. That shouldn’t be a shock to anyone. Honestly I have no idea whether he’ll end up better than Sorgi, but I’d say we’re not even close to the point where we can decide that or not. Maybe a couple years from now.
by LTTelamon on Aug 29, 2009 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
You do seem to harsh on Painter a lot, Homer. Give the rookie a break! I’m starting to think either you have something against Purdue or Sorgi’s you’re brother-in-law and you’re wife forces you to say nice things about him on this blog.
If the latter is the case do you think you could ask Jim to get Peyton’s autograph for me? ;)
"Flying blind on a rocket cycle?" -Vultan, from the movie "Flash Gordon", for no particular reason...
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 29, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With that
Charlie Johnson DEFINITELY needs to show something. It’s the freaking lions and if he can’t hold up Cliff Avril, then with all due respect, he needs to be on the bench and stay there. Hopefully he comes through, but I hope even more that Tony Ugoh makes us all laugh that we doubted he was starter material as he protects the QB and pancakes all rushers. Hey, it could happen.
by npb1985 on Aug 29, 2009 1:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Keiaho
If Keiaho doesn’t make the team then you’re a genius. But I’m pretty sure you’re not a genius. Also, you seriously think Moala has a shot at starting? Are you kidding? Honestly, the only thing I agree with you about is Pierre Garcon. Oh and Ugoh, but duh…
by Raskell on Aug 29, 2009 3:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You seriously think our DTs are talented enough that Moala doesn’t have a shot? That’s not what I see.
by LTTelamon on Aug 29, 2009 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Johnson’s are head and shoulders about Moala right now. Based on talent, sure he ideally has a chance. He has severely underperformed in the preseason so far though…
by Raskell on Aug 29, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Third game themes
My personal theme for the third game—after all, the one game in the preseason we’re really supposed to care about—is post like it’s the regular season, concise and witty. Well, as you’ve seen, my posts are never concise and rarely witty, but, hey, these games are for working out the kinks, right? On two…
Ugoh/Johnson: who sucks less. And I do think it’s not only about Peyton staying upright (though that is the obvious concern) but also about who can run block. Actually, I think that part of both Ugoh’s and Johnson’s games is a little underrated, or at least under-analyzed. It will be interesting to me if the stretch is run left more than right today.
Sorgi/Painter: who sucks less. And, does Painter suck little enough to justify a roster spot.
Keiaho/Humber/Senn: I’m already on record as a Humber fan. I think you throw Hagler in the mix here too, as Colts Homer seems to presume he’s locked up a spot. Given his inconsistency in the past—Hagler, not Colts Homer—I don’t think he’s a lock.
The Waiter: My belief is Collie is the third receiver already, and Garcon will get work today and next week because he’s not going to get much once the season starts. If he drops a pass for the third week in a row, #18 might call timeout, get on the phone to the pressbox and have Garcon cut right on the field.
Moala: Agree he hasn’t shown much, but the Johnsons are playing well and so have Muir and Grady, so his chances have been limited. As much as we would like to see a second rounder contribute as a rookie (see Sanders, Bob) I think Fili is going to spend this year learning. Perhaps the big jump is next year.
Jennings: If Jennings (and Dante Hughes) make it over Lacey, it’s the security blanket of experience being chosen over the risk of unproven upside. My view: pray for Hayden’s quick return and full 16-game health for Jackson. That would give Powers (and Lacey) some time to develop into capable back-ups.
RBs: Hart looks headed to PUP. Simpson looks headed to the UFL. Ball looks headed to carries in garbage time during the regular season. Other than keeping #18 (and #87 and #44 and #11 and #63…) healthy, my other goal for the Colts today is getting Eric Foster a carry out of the Power I. I’m serious, Foster’s making this team because he’s already shown to be a solid lineman, a good ST man for a 280-pounder and now a fullback. Dare we dream of a Klecko-like pass play? Next Foster will back up Andrus if he gets hurt.
Can we just cancel the fourth game and play the Jags the day before Labor Day?
The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in the stars, but in ourselves.
by Coltsfan58 on Aug 29, 2009 8:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hart can't be on the PUP
He was already on it and got off it, it’s either a roster spot, IR via the waiver wires, or cutsville.
by slash196 on Aug 29, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Field goals and MLB
For me, I’d like to see the Colts find a way to keep Andrus if he kicks well.
I think it’s imperative to have a good field goal kicker waiting in the wings.
I don’t trust Vinatieri’s condition and he’s going to have to be replaced in the future anyway.
If Vinatieri misses a couple of field goals in the 35 yard range early in the season, the Colts may wish they had another option.
Now is the time to address that possibility.
As for the MLB position, I don’t have a good feel for who the backup is going to be.
The departure of Seward leaves a hole that hasn’t really been filled.
I assume the coaches have this all figured out but I’m not convinced yet.
by centauri on Aug 29, 2009 1:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder...
if they are regretting for releasing Seward yet. hm?!
I know I am.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Aug 29, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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