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What to Expect: Defensive Line

Will this huge man just flat out dominate running backs this year? Thursday, May 28, 2009.  (AP Photo/Michael Conroy)

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Will this huge man just flat out dominate running backs this year? Thursday, May 28, 2009. (AP Photo/Michael Conroy)


Over the past two years, this is the most improved unit on the team, no question about it.  In the 2008 draft, the Colts took pass rush specialist and Colt Brennan's personal demon Marcus Howard in the fifth round after a surprising fall in the draft and then later signed Curtis Johnson out of the powerhouse Clark Atlanta.  Both of them are in the Robert Mathis mold of the small yet very quick pass rushers.  Then in the 2009 draft the team focused on the defensive tackles.  They took Fili Moala out of USC who could play UT and NT depending on the situation.  Two rounds later in the fourth they took huge NT Terrance Taylor out of Michigan.  Over the past two years, it's gone from being horrendously shallow to very deep.

1. Over/under on combined sacks between Robert Mathis and Dwight Freeney: 23.75

2. Who do you expect to be the starting defensive tackles for Week 2 after Ed Johnson's suspension is over?

3. Over/under on Marcus Howard sacks: 4.75

4. Do you expect Keyunta Dawson to make the final 53 man roster?

5. Do you expect Adrian Grady to make the final 53 man roster?

6. Who do you expect to have more tackles: Antonio Johnson or Terrance Taylor?

7. Who do you expect to have more tackles: Raheem Brock or Fili Moala?

8. Do you expect Ed Johnson to have a better season than his rookie year?

9. Do you expect Daniel Muir to make the final 53 man roster?

10. Do you expect the team to hold opponents to under 110 rushing yards per game next season?

My answers are after the jump.

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1. Under.  12 for Freeney and 11 for Mathis.

2. Fili Moala at UT and Ed Johnson at NT.

3. Over.  I say he gets six.

4. No.  Dawson will be cut.

5. Yes.  Grady will just barely make the roster.

6. Antonio Johnson will have quite a few more tackles.

7. Fili Moala will have about 15 to 20 more tackles.

8. Ed Johnson will be much improved over 2007 because he will be playing with another great DT next to him.

9. No.  Muir will be cut and could be the first defensive tackle cut.

10. No, I will guess 115 yards per game for the opponent on the ground.

I had some trouble coming up with questions for this one to say the least...

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Ed Johnson

makes me feel good about our defensive line this year. Him and Fili should be a great fit for the D.

by jackhammerslam on Aug 3, 2009 12:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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1. Over/under on combined sacks between Robert Mathis and Dwight Freeney: 23.75
Under, but if the DTs work out and both ends stay healthy they can do it for sure.

2. Who do you expect to be the starting defensive tackles for Week 2 after Ed Johnson’s suspension is over?
Ed Johnson and Eric Foster. A close second would be Ed and Fili.

3. Over/under on Marcus Howard sacks: 4.75
Under, I doubt he sees the field enough unless Freeney or Mathis go down for a significant amount of time.

4. Do you expect Keyunta Dawson to make the final 53 man roster?
Yes, but I wouldn’t bet money on it.

5. Do you expect Adrian Grady to make the final 53 man roster?
No, but him edging out Dawson isn’t unthinkable

6. Who do you expect to have more tackles: Antonio Johnson or Terrance Taylor?
Mookie because he’ll probably get a good amount of time in the opener before Ed pushes him down the depth chart.

7. Who do you expect to have more tackles: Raheem Brock or Fili Moala?
really tough for me, I think Brock will be a two down player all year, and Moala will be a 3 down player later in the year. I’ll go Moala.

8. Do you expect Ed Johnson to have a better season than his rookie year?
No, he probably didn’t grow much as a player in the year out of football and he has Moala to threaten him for 3rd down snaps.

9. Do you expect Daniel Muir to make the final 53 man roster?
No, this is the most sure I am of the DT cuts.

10. Do you expect the team to hold opponents to under 110 rushing yards per game next season?
Yes, they have big talented DTs in the system who can not only play NT, but they can also go big at UT as needed.

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by shake n bake on Aug 3, 2009 12:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

shake

your video link rocks! im not sure i would have noticed either………well maybe if the person became a woman i would have!

by MARVININDY on Aug 3, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1. Under-no more than 20, but the DTs may have more than usual as the new inside pass rush surprises opposing O-line coaches. I still think there will be plenty of double teams on our outside pass rush, making 20+ sacks from the DE position a little tough.

2. Moala and Mookie Johnson. Ed will have to earn his way back into the rotation, but he could be there by mid-season.

3. Under. There’s not enough snaps for Howard to get five sacks this year. But he could get two or three.

4. Unfortunately no, there isn’t enough room if the Colts keep Foster, which I expect they will.

5. No. I think Grady is the last man out and starts the year on the practice squad, and the Colts hope nobody else signs him.

Side Note: I think the DTs they carry are the Johnsons, Taylor, Moala, Brock (if you consider him a DT) and Foster. That’s at least five (or six if you count Brock). Not counting Brock they’ll keep 4 DEs (Freeney, Mathis, Johnson, Howard). With ten linemen, I don’t think they have enough roster space for Grady and Dawson, as much as I like them.

6. Johnson. I figure Taylor will be a situational guy. Usually beefy goal line package guys like that only see 10-15 snaps a game, while I think Johnson will be a starter. No chance for Taylor to out-tackle him then.

7. Again, I think Moala will start while Brock will be the UT in pass-rushing situations, and a situational DE in short-yardage situations. So I think Moala gets more. But given how many more tackles our DEs usually end up with it’ll be close.

8. I think we will all be happy if Ed has just as good a year as he did two years ago. I don’t think expecting much more out of him is fair (at least statistically) given the increased competition for the job that will limit his opportunities, and the fact that he’s a question mark from a conditioning standpoint.

9. I agree that Muir will not make the team.

10. I think it’ll be close. A lot will have to do with how well the offense clicks. If the Colts are able to run points up on people as they have in the past, it will be hard for opponents to justify running late in games when they’re down by a bunch. The easy (looking) schedule, combined with the improved DT play and the all-around depth elsewhere in the front seven will go a long way to making 110 a realistic outcome.

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by LukeNukem on Aug 3, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Homer, this may be the toughest one to pick yet...

I actually have to ponder some of these a while. Before I do my homework, I will say that, due to a recent change in NFL statistical procedures (counting eighths), Marcus Howard will get exactly 4.875 sacks.

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by Bobman on Aug 3, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

still learning the new rules so help me out,

an eight of a sack is when the defender doesn’t hit the QB but gets close enough to give him a really mean look, right?

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by shake n bake on Aug 3, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's a gang tackle sack

Can you imagine 8 guys converging on a QB? What would be left of him after they pulled the pile apart?

Even tougher to measure, what the heck constitutes 3/8 of a sack?

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by Bobman on Aug 3, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

10 questions with 10 answers

1. Over/under on combined sacks between Robert Mathis and Dwight Freeney: 23.75
     Under – but, it will be close. 22 maybe 23 sacks between the two.

2. Who do you expect to be the starting defensive tackles for Week 2 after Ed Johnson’s suspension is over? – Ed will start at NT, he is just too athletic of a NT not to be starting. UT will probably be Fili, if he has a good camp and stays healthy.

3. Over/under on Marcus Howard sacks: 4.75 – Under, not enough opprotunities.

4. Do you expect Keyunta Dawson to make the final 53 man roster? No – I hope not. If they keep a couple of small UT’s I hope they’re Foster and Brock small, and not Dawson small.

5. Do you expect Adrian Grady to make the final 53 man roster? – No – maybe the P.S.

6. Who do you expect to have more tackles: Antonio Johnson or Terrance Taylor? I think AJ will be in the rotation a little more than Taylor, at least this year, and should have more tackles.

7. Who do you expect to have more tackles: Raheem Brock or Fili Moala? – Moala, I hope, if he has more tackles than Brock then he is starting and being productive, that’s good.

8. Do you expect Ed Johnson to have a better season than his rookie year? Yes, a little better, but, he had a good season in 07

9. Do you expect Daniel Muir to make the final 53 man roster? No he is a long shot, as it stands now, but, I’m pulling for him. He is very athletic for a big man. He put up some great numbers at his proday back in 07. He and EJ would make two very athletic NT’s.

10. Do you expect the team to hold opponents to under 110 rushing yards per game next season? – Yes – with all the new talent and size, they should be able keep that number below 110

Defense is more important than breathing.

by BetterD on Aug 3, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay, actual answers below.

1. Over/under on combined sacks Mathis and Freeney: 23.75
Under, just because there are more potential sackers to spread the wealth and because of all the short drops we’ve seen the past couple years. But both in double digits.

2. Who do you expect to be the starting defensive tackles for Week 2 after Ed Johnson’s suspension is over?
Ed Johnson and Fili Moala. Maybe Brock—nah, maybe Brock on passing downs. But I think “starting” will be an arbitrary term, like at RB. At DT, the “starters” might only log 50% of the DT snaps between them, with that youth and rotation. I did not look to see how many no-huddle potential offenses we face, but I suspect we’ll rotate heavily. Maybe we do it like we used to with RBs, but more typically it’s every couple plays, not every new series.

3. Over/under on Marcus Howard sacks: 4.75
Over. See #1 above. I think Coyer might have a slightly higher risk tolerance than Dungy/Meeks, and might move guys around more than in the past. The unknown kid will get overlooked by the OLs, to their disadvantage.

4. Do you expect Keyunta Dawson to make the final 53 man roster?
No. Maybe, but if you put a gun to my head, I say no. Practice squad eligible, or too old?

5. Do you expect Adrian Grady to make the final 53 man roster?
No, but maybe practice squad?

6. Who do you expect to have more tackles: Antonio Johnson or Terrance Taylor?
Calling it a tie is just too much of a weenie response, isn’t it? I’ll take the safe bet and go with the vet. Mookie.

7. Who do you expect to have more tackles: Raheem Brock or Fili Moala?
I love Brock, but concur with Shake that he’s a valuable situational guy, and a backup who can fill any slot on the line except NT. Moala will likely see more snaps over the course of 16 games, so Moala.

8. Do you expect Ed Johnson to have a better season than his rookie year?
About the same, which will be just fine.

9. Do you expect Daniel Muir to make the final 53 man roster?
Probably not.

10. Do you expect the team to hold opponents to under 110 rushing yards per game next season?
Who picked this line, Vegas? I think right around 110 YPG sounds right, but if I have to make a call, I’ll say under. More to the point, I bet we have some games where the opp gets under 85, which will be awesome. But probably a few where we allow a relative gashing of 160 (injury, or a freak 70 yarder, etc). Does it sound odd for me to call 160 a gashing after the 2006 and 2008 seasons? And to predict NO 200 yard rushing games against us? Call me crazy….

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by Bobman on Aug 3, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay, now that it looks like Dawson has been moved to DE....

Or hell, at 254 lbs, maybe the move him to LB eventually.

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by Bobman on Aug 4, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grady

Interesting questions. Q#5 – Grady would have to beat out Foster for the 2nd UT spot, correct? I figure Fili is a lock, then we keep either Foster, Grady, or Dawson. I’d say the two vets have a better shot since neither are PS eligible.

by smonroe on Aug 3, 2009 6:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

1. Over/under on combined sacks between Robert Mathis and Dwight Freeney: 23.75
Under. Freeney will have about 12; Mathis, 8.

2. Who do you expect to be the starting defensive tackles for Week 2 after Ed Johnson’s suspension is over?
If Ed impresses the coaches during training camp, then he and Moala; if not, Mookie and Moala.

3. Over/under on Marcus Howard sacks: 4.75
Under. He probably won’t get that much playing time. Two sacks will probably be his max.

4. Do you expect Keyunta Dawson to make the final 53 man roster?
No, but I wish.

5. Do you expect Adrian Grady to make the final 53 man roster?
No, Keyunta Dawson will be his competition.

6. Who do you expect to have more tackles: Antonio Johnson or Terrance Taylor?
Antonio Johnson. I think Mookie will get more playing time than Taylor which will result in more tackles.

7. Who do you expect to have more tackles: Raheem Brock or Fili Moala?
Tough one, but I’ll go with Moala.

8. Do you expect Ed Johnson to have a better season than his rookie year?
No, he missed an entire year of football. I just hope his skills haven’t decreased.

9. Do you expect Daniel Muir to make the final 53 man roster?
Nope.

10. Do you expect the team to hold opponents to under 110 rushing yards per game next season?
Yep, the Colts have way too much talent on the D-line for punks like MJD or Sproles to run all over them now.

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by KMR24 on Aug 3, 2009 7:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My Take

1. Over/under on combined sacks between Robert Mathis and Dwight Freeney: 23.75
Under, but close.

2. Who do you expect to be the starting defensive tackles for Week 2 after Ed Johnson’s suspension is over?
Ed Johnson and Eric Foster, but Fili will eventually overtake Foster

3. Over/under on Marcus Howard sacks: 4.75
Very tough call, because if he gets much playing time on passing downs, he’ll get it. But I’d say no, due to lack of opportunity.

4. Do you expect Keyunta Dawson to make the final 53 man roster?
No. Aren’t we deep this year? You know it’s true when guys you really like can’t hold a spot.

5. Do you expect Adrian Grady to make the final 53 man roster?
Two words: Practice Squad

6. Who do you expect to have more tackles: Antonio Johnson or Terrance Taylor?
Mookie, but only this year. TT will be good for us sophomore year and beyond

7. Who do you expect to have more tackles: Raheem Brock or Fili Moala?
Fili

8. Do you expect Ed Johnson to have a better season than his rookie year?
Yes

9. Do you expect Daniel Muir to make the final 53 man roster?
No.

10. Do you expect the team to hold opponents to under 110 rushing yards per game next season?
Oh, Yeah!

by coltsfanawalt on Aug 4, 2009 12:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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