Bringing a veteran QB into camp
Last year with Peyton Manning on the PUP the Colts brought in a pair of veteran backups, Quinn Gray and Jared Lorenzen. Now with Jim Sorgi out 2-3 weeks they may bring an experienced QB in again. There are still a few Quarterbacks with NFL experience remaining unsigned.
Free Agents
UFL (I don't know if there is an arrangement for the NFL-UFL on the poaching of their talent, but it's unlikely any of these guys will give up a starting UFL job for a few weeks in an NFL camp).
Brooks Bollinger (Orlando)
Quinn Gray (New York)
J.P. Losman (Las Vegas)
Jump for more info on the vets
Gus Frerotte (FA) last seen replacing a struggling Tarvaris Jackson and starting 11 games for the Vikings before a back injury took him out of the lineup. He completed 59.1% of his passes for 2,157 yards, 12TDs with 15 INTs for a QB Rating of 73.7 and ANY/A of 4.3.
Drew Henson (FA) most notable for sharing time with Tom Brady in college. Henson both thrown an NFL touchdown and has a major league hit. The downside being that he's thrown just 20 NFL passes (only 2 over the last 4 seasons) and had only 9 MLB at bats.
Craig Nall (FA) the long-time backup has the impressive statistic of more years in the league (9), than games played (7). He has played well in his few appearances holding a career QB rating of 123.8 over 48 attempts.
Marques Tuiasosopo (FA) A second round pick of the Raiders, Tuiasosopo has played just 13 games (2 starts) in 8 seasons, and hasn't posted a season with less INTs than TDs or a QB rating over 51 since his (4 attempt) rookie year. Awesome name though.
Cleo Lemon (FA) Lemon started half a season in Miami in 2007 playing well enough for an ill advised 3 year, 9 million dollar contract from the Jags, who cut him after just one year.
Brooks Bollinger (Orlando) Bollinger has played a handful of games as a backup since a mediocre half-season starting for the Jets with 56.4% completion, 1,558 yards, 7TDs, and 6INTs for a rating of 72.9 and 4.1 ANY/A
Quinn Gray (New York) We all saw Gray last year, through the first 3 preseason games he looked like the best QB of the 3 headed backup committee. Over the last two he threw 4 INTs to 1 TD and completed under 40% of his passes. He eventually caught on with the Cheifs where he had 8 very good pass attempts.
J.P. Losman (Las Vegas) The 2004 1st rounder couldn't stay healthy and regressed as a passer after a pretty good 2006 season. With Trent Edwards emerging as a viable starter and outplaying Losman, J.P. was given the boot.
Very slim pickings, Where for art thou Josh Betts? (actually he is available)
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How about Jim Harbaugh?
Would kill two birds for me… ;-)
How can you not love a team that does this?
by LovinBlue on Aug 9, 2009 12:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For everyone
Except for the 20,000 prospects he’s offered so far.
"I saw a commercial on late night TV, it said,'Forget everything you know about slipcovers.' So I did. And it was a load off my mind. Then the commercial tried to sell me slipcovers, and I didn't know what the hell they were."
-Mitch Hedberg
by Colts Homer on Aug 9, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thnk
Frerotte bight be good. If he asks only for vet min.
by metal_militia on Aug 9, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What?
Wait, why is Peyton on the PUP??? Did I miss something?
Check it to Pancakes! Pancakes!
by Picky on Aug 9, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He was last year
"I saw a commercial on late night TV, it said,'Forget everything you know about slipcovers.' So I did. And it was a load off my mind. Then the commercial tried to sell me slipcovers, and I didn't know what the hell they were."
-Mitch Hedberg
by Colts Homer on Aug 9, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
aah.
The typo “last last” threw me. I thought maybe something happened that I hadn’t heard about. Phew!
Well, put my vote in for Ryan Leaf (if he’s out of jail, that is)
;-D
Check it to Pancakes! Pancakes!
by Picky on Aug 9, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fixed
sorry
I even proof read this one.
I’ll blame the concussion.
It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.
by shake n bake on Aug 9, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who gets cut?
I’m more interested in who gets an early ticket home than in the hired arm that we know will be gone as soon as Sorgi can get back. Besides Crane, you left off BigBoy who’s fresh from playing AF2 ball.
by smonroe on Aug 9, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How about Jeff George?
I hear he’s been working out
/joking
//please don’t kill me….
I also wish I had time and motivation to blog at Speed Blue Nation
by Bullard47 on Aug 9, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh and...
///Warren Central alum
I also wish I had time and motivation to blog at Speed Blue Nation
by Bullard47 on Aug 9, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
good one.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Aug 10, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Vick!!!!
Please, please draft a big Defensive Tackle. Please?
Enter Fili Moala. Thank you Polian
by skywalker on Aug 9, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Though it's a backup...
What is more important to you folks: a vet with a serviceable arm, but somewhat ingrained with previous systems or a slightly younger guy who may not have the reps, but may pick up the machinations of Indy’s offense?
Jason Clinkscales
A Sports Scribe
http://asportsscribe.blogspot.com
by Jason Clinkscales on Aug 9, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting question
I hadn’t thought about that before, but I guess I’d rather see someone who can learn Indy’s offense so that the other players who aren’t injured get some practice at game speed before the regular season starts.
How can you not love a team that does this?
by LovinBlue on Aug 9, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
P.S.
I have no idea who might be able to fill those shoes. Are we sure Archie isn’t hiding another son somewhere? lol
How can you not love a team that does this?
by LovinBlue on Aug 9, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How old are Cooper's kids?
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
by Indy Lori on Aug 9, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
7&8 according to this
http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/07/Sports/The_other_Manning.shtml
a little too young for the league.
It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.
by shake n bake on Aug 9, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I veteran would be my choice.
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
by Indy Lori on Aug 9, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the answers
I know that SB Nation is a fan-oriented site and despite my work for a weekly paper here in NYC, these are the sort of questions I’ve learned to think about over the years. It’s good to chat with people about it when the opportunity presents itself.
For example, the Giants may have Peyton’s little brother, but David Carr (yeah, that David Carr) has proven that for stretches, he could handle the offense. He’s still fairly young in terms of age, but has enough years in the league that he can certainly pick up a team’s playbook because he understands the speed of the NFL (and could tell you how various turfs and grasses around the league taste and feel).
Meanwhile, my beloved Niners? Well… these aren’t the glory days anymore.
By the way, Cooper’s kids may be available in the 2023 Draft.
Jason Clinkscales
A Sports Scribe
http://asportsscribe.blogspot.com
by Jason Clinkscales on Aug 11, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RE:Your Niners
I’m just curious, how is Nate Davis doing out there? I followed him when he was at Ball State.
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
by Indy Lori on Aug 12, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Admittedly, I haven't checked up on my team just yet
So sorry for the late reply, Indy Lori.
I’ve been preoccupied with so many other matters (personal and professional) that I’ve only caught things in passing about the team. I would imagine though that with Michael Robinson being day-to-day with an injury that Davis picked up some of his reps. Because the Wildcat (or in SFs case, the Taser) is the formation-du-jour, he’s ideal for those packages, especially with the latest new OC in Jimmy Raye. However, because Robinson (you may recall him well in Big Ten country) was used a good bit pre-Wildcat, I couldn’t imagine that he won’t be used the same way for some trick play.
Last I did hear, he was signed to a five-year (maybe 4) deal, but with three other QBs on the roster (Alex Smith and Shaun Hill fighting for starter and Damon Huard coming over as a FA), he’s not really discussed much as a signal caller.
Jason Clinkscales
A Sports Scribe
http://asportsscribe.blogspot.com
by Jason Clinkscales on Aug 17, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you haven't already, I'
Jason Clinkscales
A Sports Scribe
http://asportsscribe.blogspot.com
by Jason Clinkscales on Aug 17, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you haven’t already, I’d take a gander over at Niners Nation here on SB or the daily papers in the area: San Francisco Chronicle or the San Jose Mercury News
Jason Clinkscales
A Sports Scribe
http://asportsscribe.blogspot.com
by Jason Clinkscales on Aug 17, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Jason.
I’ll do that. Sounds like Davis will be sitting and learning this year. Unless a QB or two get hurt.
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
by Indy Lori on Aug 18, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
has anyone picked up Brian Griese?
and is there anyone playing in a similar scheme? I assume West Coast QBs are out. Based on who they draft and bring in, I assume we’re looking for someone tall, with a big arm. Failure to get stronger is why Sorgi’s on his way out, right?
by CooperManningsNotTrying on Aug 9, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wiki says still a free agent
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by shake n bake on Aug 9, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh gosh no.
He is really, really bad. Did you catch any of the Tampa games he was in last year. Really. bad.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Aug 10, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When life hands you Lemons...
As of Friday, August 1, Cleo Lemon was offered a contract by New England, so he’s off the books.
Unless they want to take some pressure off Curtis Painter having to run all but 3 series of each preseason game, I doubt the Colts even consider signing a 4th QB. However, should Sorgi be out longer than the expected 2-3 weeks, they may look into it come week 3 of preseason.
With that in mind, I’m sure they go after a vet of at least 5 years experience. Here’s my short list of available players (in the order they should be considered):
Brooks Bollinger
Drew Henson
Marques Tuiasosopo
Ken Dorsey
The FAULK
by incredibleFAULK on Aug 9, 2009 11:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lemon was in discussion with the Pats, but he didn't sign
they signed Andrew Walter instead.
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/football/story/2009/08/04/sp-patriots-qb.html
It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.
by shake n bake on Aug 10, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...
Interesting…
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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 10, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My vote is for Gus.
At least he seems somewhat competent.
Now a proud annoyance on Stampede Blue, 18to88, Indy Football Report, and Phil B's blog.
Man, I need a life...
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Cursed players this year (via my autograph curse): Donald Brown, Fili Moala, Jerraud Powers, Austin Collie, Terrence Taylor, and Curtis Painter.
by Cassieper on Aug 10, 2009 11:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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