Peyton or Brees: Who Ya Got?!
by KMR24 on Sep 22, 2009 3:47 PM EDT
Email
Print
Now that the Golden Boy (Tom Brady) is stinkin' up the joint in New England, there's a new quarterback staking his claim as an elite quarterback: New Orleans Saints' Drew Brees. So far in this very young season, Brees has thrown 9 TDs, 2 INT, completed 75% of his passes for 669 yards with a ridiculous passer rating of 132.9! He's also on pace to throw 72 touchdowns!
Our quarterback Peyton Manning is also off to a very good start: 3 TDs, 1 INT, 68.9% completion for 604 yards and a passer rating of 110.3. Brees is killing every other quarterback in the league in nearly all the major statistical categories, but stats aren't everything.
Brees won't be playing a defense like the Lions multiple times this season; so we can definitely scratch out him reaching 50+ touchdowns, let alone 70+ touchdowns. In addition to not being able to blow out every opponent this season, Drew Brees isn't thought as being clutch.
Brees hasn't led any team in a comeback victory as gracefully and as frequently as Peyton Manning has done over the last 12 seasons. When Peyton's on the national stage, he shines. His performance from last night and recent years including last season's Sunday Night Football game against the San Diego Chargers proves that there's so much more to being an elite quarterback than just being able to fill up a stats sheet.
Drew Brees is a terrific quarterback; but in 2006 NFC Championship Game, the biggest game of his career, Brees didn't play that well. Peyton, on the other hand, faced a 18 point deficit at half time, and the rest in history. Peyton Manning is 2nd among active quarterbacks with 37 game-winning drives in the 4th quarter or Overtime. After leading his team to over 30 game-winning drive, many are starting now to consider him as Mr. Clutch.
If you want a great quarterback for you Fantasy Football League, Brees is you guy; but if you want a quarterback to lead your team on a game-winning drive, Peyton’s the man for that job. Until Brees can win important games, he’s gonna have to wait his turn to join Peyton at the cool kids' table.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Stampede Blue's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Stampede Blue's writers or editors.
26 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Hey, so idiots would still pick Brees over Big P. :)
"Do I believe in aliens?" Stephon Marbury asked. "I don't know, because I've never seen one. But I believe in Jesus because I saw him in the shower the other day."
Due to my reputation around here,
I don’t think I need to tell any one who I have.LOL
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
Ooooooooohhhhhh, let me guess............
Trent Edwards?
Now a proud annoyance on Stampede Blue, 18to88, Indy Football Report, and Phil B's blog.
Man, I need a life...
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: I blazed through my test in 20 minutes and sprinted back to my room just as the MNF theme song ended. Good thing too, with that 1st play. So, my streak of seeing every minute of every game since 2003 Tampa still stands. So, my Chem TA lives (for now).
So,
you voted for Edwards, too, huh?
Now a proud annoyance on Stampede Blue, 18to88, Indy Football Report, and Phil B's blog.
Man, I need a life...
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: I blazed through my test in 20 minutes and sprinted back to my room just as the MNF theme song ended. Good thing too, with that 1st play. So, my streak of seeing every minute of every game since 2003 Tampa still stands. So, my Chem TA lives (for now).
Cass,
I’ve been dying to ask this but didn’t have the nerve. What the heck does your screen name signify? You don’t have to answer if you don’t want to. Just like a cat, I’m overly curious.
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
No problem.
It’s a little of a long story. It went back to when I played a massive multiplayer game online called Runescape. I needed a completely unique name, and since I have extremely common first and last names in Ryan and Knox, I had to come up with something completely new, especially since I didn’t want to be Ryan280. That’s boring and stupid.
At that time, my family had 2 dogs, a Border Collie-mix named Cassie and a Maltese named Casper. Using my extreme creativity (Yes, that’s sarcasm.), I combined the 2 together to make Cassieper. That name wasn’t already taken on Runescape. Shocker, I know. I’ve grown accustomed to that name since.
Fast forward to when I first started commenting on Phil B’s blog (last August), I also wanted a unique name because I always want people to know that a comment was coming from me. Cassieper was too long and weird, however. Then I remembered that many people called me Cass (sometimes Cassie) in Runescape as a shortened form of Cassieper. So, that’s what I went with and was planning to stick with.
When I tried to join this blog on April Fools Day this year to yell at Shake, however, Cass was already taken by this idiot. I mean, taking my perfect username for 2 comments about the New York Yankees a year ago never to log in again? That’s just wrong.
So, it was back to Cassieper for Stampede Blue. After BBS started butchering the pronunciation of my name during his podcasts (Just the name Cassie with a per on the end, 3 syllables), I suggested that he call me Cass, and it’s worked out fine.
So, there’s the surprisingly long story behind my username.
Now a proud annoyance on Stampede Blue, 18to88, Indy Football Report, and Phil B's blog.
Man, I need a life...
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: I blazed through my test in 20 minutes and sprinted back to my room just as the MNF theme song ended. Good thing too, with that 1st play. So, my streak of seeing every minute of every game since 2003 Tampa still stands. So, my Chem TA lives (for now).
Interesting story. Thanks for sharing it with me.
I’m an animal lover myself, but I have cats. If I used their names for my screen name it might sound like this: Captain Pelvis. Their names are Captain Jack, and Elvis Peyton. I’m glad I stuck with my real name!
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
So,
you like Pirates of the Caribbean, Elvis Presley, and Peyton Manning. Interesting…….
Now a proud annoyance on Stampede Blue, 18to88, Indy Football Report, and Phil B's blog.
Man, I need a life...
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: I blazed through my test in 20 minutes and sprinted back to my room just as the MNF theme song ended. Good thing too, with that 1st play. So, my streak of seeing every minute of every game since 2003 Tampa still stands. So, my Chem TA lives (for now).
Have you ever been to Graceland?!
I live about five minutes from Graceland, but never been there.
"Do I believe in aliens?" Stephon Marbury asked. "I don't know, because I've never seen one. But I believe in Jesus because I saw him in the shower the other day."
I've never been there,
I’ve been so busy for the better part of my life caring for my elderly parents and raising my kids. But as of this year, I’m done doing all that. My husband and I are planning on going to Memphis sometime soon. I can’t wait! Someone once told me that Graceland is in the worst part of town. What’s it like there?
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
Even though Memphis is in the top 5 of the most dangerous cities
and the Whitehaven area does have some crime, it’s not the worst part of town. Almost every area of Memphis is filled with crime. Heck, my school is located in a fairy nice part of town, but if you go less than 5 minutes either direction, you’ll be in the “hood”. Memphis offers some pretty decent tourist sites, just be safe, but that goes for about everywhere in this country and world.
"Do I believe in aliens?" Stephon Marbury asked. "I don't know, because I've never seen one. But I believe in Jesus because I saw him in the shower the other day."
Put other I dare you....
I have a lynch mob just waiting for my call
To quote Keshawn Johnson from ESPN...
“Come on Maaaannnn”
"If me and King Kong went into an alley, only one of us would come out. And it wouldn't be the monkey."
"I don't really trust a sane person."
"I never met a man I didn't want to fight." The one and only Lyle Alzado
+1
lol
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Sep 23, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a hard Q...
But it’s funny that people are only thinking of Brees as an “elite QB” now. Look at him statistically. He’s been RIDICULOUS the past 3 seasons. I’ve consistently rated him above Brady, and sometimes above our Big P.
Sure, he doesn’t have a championship, but I don’t like that argument. It goes along with Patriots fans’ arguments that Brady is better than Manning (oh look, more rings = better). Brees is also a great cinderella story- He’s essentially replaced, then has an amazing season when Rivers holds out from training camp. Goes on to help lead the saints.
Top 2 for sure. I honestly can’t decide who to vote for.
Brees is good, but not great....YET
Let’s forget the statistical comparisons to Peyton Manning for a second here….
Drew Brees is a great QB. Very well liked guy both by the Chargers and the Saints. Played a pretty good career at Purdue, has done some great things on the field despite injuries and all. The guy is definitely in my opinion, the 3rd best QB in the NFL. Manning, Brady, Brees, Warner, and Rothelisberger are my top 5.
However, let’s look at Drew Brees as a whole…
Only 1 season has he ever thrown for more than 30 TDs.
Only 3 seasons eclipsing the 4000 yard mark.
One of the better completion percentage QB’s in the league.
109 games – roughly 27000 yards, 177 TDs, 101 INT’s
1 NFC Championship appearance, only 2 playoff wins
Donovan McNabb
Only 1 season has he ever thrown for more than 30 TDs
Only 2 seasons eclipsing the 3800 yard mark
Average completion percentage QB
135 games – roughly 30000 yards, 196 TDs, 91 INT’s
5 NFC Championship appearance’s, 1 SB appearance, roughly 10 playoff wins
Now many of you go well why are you bringing Donovan McNabb into the picture. Simple, I wanted to show you a comparable QB situation. McNabb has LESS offensive weapons than Brees has EVER had at his disposal. Yet, in only roughly 2 seasons more work, his stats are very similar to Brees. If that is the mark of being an ELITE QB, then you need to do your homework.
Brees has been putting up gaudy numbers the last 3 years because his team has been getting it’s butt handed to them. They’ve yet to post a winning record since their miracle season ride to the NFC Championship. They’ve constantly played from behind, so Brees has had to throw.
People will say oh well how come Peyton doesn’t have a 5000 yard season….Simple, he has 2 WR’s averaging 1000yrd seasons, a 1500yrd RB, and generally is sitting the last 2-3 games most of the time because we’ve clinched playoffs or homefield. The guy practically sat out almost 3 games worth of time in the year he broke Marino’d TD record.
Brees is a GREAT QB, a great role model, and a great human being and player for the city of New Orleans. I like the guy and think he will have a great career. However, unless he can lead his team to victory and into the playoffs more often, he’ll always be the guy who played great but lost.
So Brees is...
a modern-day Warren Moon, Dan Fouts, or Dan Marino? :o)
No...
because those guys won games and made the playoffs…. and performed at these kinds of levels year in and year out. Brees has had 3 above average years…and failed to finish better than 8-8 in that time…
That alone speaks volumes..
by DevilsReject on Sep 25, 2009 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Play-offs are about the team.
Let’s not forget the way our defense played during our superbowl run. A big part of Brady’s success was the Patriots organization. Big Ben always had the best d in the league. Brees has an incredibly explosive offense, but the saints d is somewhat lacking. If the winning and play-offs are your measure of success, Roethlisberger and Brady both are better than Peyton.
Brees’ individual effort is incredible, and the fact that he’s been able to achieve success in two different systems is a testament to his ability as a qb. There really shouldn’t be any Manning/Brady arguments about Best active QB. It should be Manning/Brees.
Can't use that arguement
because both Big Ben and Brady rely on their defense to win the game. Brees and Manning are guys who have to carry their team on offense most of the time. Do you really think that for most of the Colts success over the last 6-8 years that this was a team effort? No, it was the Peyton Manning show for much of that. Did he have help? Absolutely! However, he was the guy who continually put us in a position to win, not our defense. Brady and Rothelisberger are not guys who can go out and sling the ball every down and win games. The only reason Brady threw for 50 TD’s was because he was throwing jump balls to Moss, not because he’s actually that good.
If Brees can win some more games, and make it to the playoffs, then he’s in the discussion hands down. But, if he simply continues to put up big numbers in losses than he’s just a guy who puts up stats.
by DevilsReject on Sep 28, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree.
You are validating the Patriots idiot arguments here and falling for media hype logic. Teams win games. A win is a team stat, not a QB stat.
Otherwise, the greatest QB ever is Terry Bradshaw, while Marino is lousy and not even as good as Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson.
I don’t buy that process. Brees is the real deal. Now he just needs something that others have – a complete team around him. So far, this year will be his closest to that yet. I really like this kid.
by coltsfanawalt on Sep 28, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually agree with your sentiments...
I was just taking issue with ranking Roethlisberger and Brady as two of the best. That’s what I’m trying to say: Give Manning or Brees the D the pats or steelers have had, and you’ve got an unbeatable team. Brady and Big Ben are both good QBs in systems that fit them perfectly. Neither could flourish in the Colts/Saints situation.
And again- citing play-off wins as a way to “put brees in the discussion” feels a bit too close to Pats fan’s “Rings make a better QB” argument. I mean, if that’s your measurement, as I said before, Roethlisberger and Brady both > Peyton Manning. I disagree with this. I think you disagree with this, judged on your response, but by making the argument that Brees needs play-offs, you’re validating the other.
Forgot to mention...
I agree with your assessment of Brady to Moss. Moss deserves a lot more credit. I mean, the guy made Dante Culpepper look sick. That says a lot.
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
In Association With
Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
- Ahmad Bradshaw says Cowboys won’t win with Tony Romo at QB
- Cruz: Manningham’s Super catch wasn’t drawn up that way
- Whitney Houston performed the greatest national anthem in sports history (video)
- Justin Tuck visits New York City cop who survived gunshot wound to head
- The Giants won the ‘Brain Bowl,’ too
Certain photos copyright © 2012 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
