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by Andrew602 on Sep 23, 2009 11:34 AM EDT
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PrintHey Colts fans, Andrew here from Revenge of the Birds. Just stopping by to answer any questions you may have about the Cardinals. Great Monday night football game by the way. Anyway, if you have any questions leading up until this Sunday nights game, drop them here and I usually answer pretty quickly. Here's some questions I might be able to answer ahead of time:
- Yes we still believe Matt Leinart is the quarterback of the future for Arizona. He looked a lot better this preseason.
- Beanie Wells is the real deal. The man can run. He just needs to hold onto the football better.
- Last week we may have finally found the offense we had last year. I think the loss of offensive coordinator Todd Haley, gave us an adjustment period.
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was it simply losing haley that gave the Cards struggles
or was it a combination of him and the 49er defense during week 1?
the absense of Breaston and severly limited action of Boldin was the biggest loss, IMO, against the Niners
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Yeah we'll see how great this 49er defense is against the Vikings and Peterson on Sunday.
But I blame the loss of Haley, the health of Boldin, and Breaston not playing on the poor offense in week 1.
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He's playing like he should be.
Still learning but you can see his tremendous upside. The guy is usually the fastest player on the field and eventually will turn into a shut down corner.
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I think that is Andrews way of saying he isn't the "shutdown" corner SOME people were calling him in the off season
I think he has been playing off his receiver and trying to hard to induce a big play and he needs to just cover his man. He could be a shut down corner some day but not this year.
Of course corner is the hardest position on the field to become proficient at…
how is free agent adquisition bryan mcfadden doing?
have you been able to create efficient pass rush this year?
Go Colts!
second most sacks in the league so far (eight through two games)
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
What he said.
8 sacks so far and counting . I’d say our pass rush was one of the biggest improvements from last year. B Mac is doing pretty great IMO and compliments DRC’s speed well.
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and also,
aren’t you scared of having 100 offside calls this week against us? peyton will probably draw you offsides at least three times
Go Colts!
No
Colts opponents are averaging 3.5 penalties a game, lowest in the league.
you might want to look by a per play basis
I bet the lopsided TOP and number of plays last week skew the numbers pretty hard with only 2 games to go off of.
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 23, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
ok according to the play by play of both games, neither the Jags or Phins were flagged for a single offsides
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by Bezekira on Sep 23, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
They got the Phins for 12 men on the field
Peyton caught them subbing. That’s more common that offsides jumps
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by shake n bake on Sep 23, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
since this is an "Ask" thread I'll put a question off that
Do the Cards make many personnel changes on D? 3rd down specialists, 2 down LBs or DTs, etc?
If the offense doesn’t sub they don’t have to give the defense time to, and since the Colts can run a wide variety of formations with the same personnel thanks to Wayne, Addai and especially Clark being very flexible, and use small O linemen who rarely have conditioning issues, they don’t sub on offense often.
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by shake n bake on Sep 23, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
on third downs and obvious passing situations they do quite a bit of subbing as most teams do
Normally it involves bringing in an extra safety or Berry coming into the game.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Lately they've been subbing D lineman
Which has been working fairly well so far. I am worried about offsides for the most part because some of our D line try to predict snap counts. Which would be dumb against Peyton. I’d imagine they will figure out their substitutions ahead of time and play smart against the Colts.
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this isn't a rate stat
It’s a counting stat. Week 1, your opponent had 3 penalties, week 2, 4 penalties.
In 2008 your opponents averaged 4.2 penalties a game, lowest in the league.
I know it was a counting stat
I suggested maybe a rate stat would be more telling since the Colts are always at or very near the bottom in number of drives/plays run. Teams shorten the game against the Colts, because they run the ball more often than usual. Which reduces the opportunities for penalties, but makes each count more because there are less drives in the game so giving free yardage on one of them makes a bigger impact.
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by shake n bake on Sep 23, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
these are total team penalties, whether accrued against your offense or defense. so a holding call on the Dolphins, let’s say, would be a part of that.
so not the best measure of how many defensive penalties Peyton draws with the quick snaps and hard counts.
Ideally I’d want to see per play rates for just defense to see if it’s a significant amount more or less than usual.
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by shake n bake on Sep 23, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
How is that?
You’ve shown nothing to prove that Peyton is drawing off the defense multiple times a game. I’ve shown that over two games and last year, the colts as a team draw roughly 4 penalties a game. Which ranked last in the NFL last year and is currently tied for last for this year.
I’m not trying to prove how many penalties a game Peyton draws with his awesomeness. I’m saying that by using some stats, I’m not worried about Manning drawing the Cards offsides multiple times during the game.
by KDean75 on Sep 23, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not the OP for this series
I’ve just been pointing out that the numbers cited aren’t very good measures of the effect Peyton may or may not have on offsides/12 men penalties.
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 23, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I think what Shake is pointing out...or finding an interest in is:
If you take the number of times the opposing defense has been called for being offsides, and also look at the number of possessions by the Colts (which is a league low) you will see an average which is higher than just the # of offsides per game reflects.
Is this what you’re looking at Shake?
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
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by peytonsthebest on Sep 23, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Ideally I’d want to see per play rates for just defense to see if it’s a significant amount more or less than usual.
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 23, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m aware of what you’re saying, and as you are the one trying to make that point, please find this data and point me to it. Please support your position with some facts, not just your feelings or recollections or whatever that can not be quantified.
again I'm not the OP
I’m not saying, and didn’t say I believe it will be an issue other than making subs more tricky. I’m just saying that the numbers you posted aren’t all that relevant to the question because they are skewed by the Colts having very few drives and are full of random noise from ST and O penalties also being included. Data that bad isn’t any better than ancedotes. It’s like saying the Colts or Cards running game wasn’t bad last year and citing total offense. Unfortunately rushing yards or YPC aren’t easily available in this case.
I’ll cite great data for the claim I did make.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/drivestats
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by shake n bake on Sep 23, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
You are right
those are stats. They’re not relevant to this discussion, as there is nothing there about penalties.
by KDean75 on Sep 23, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
they are relevant to the only claim that I made
the Colts this year and many previous years, have very few drives compared to most teams.
Stop for a second and read back what I’ve said and see how it’s not what you are arguing with, likely because you are treating me and fpacheo as the same person.
fpacheo: Are you worried about Peyton drawing the Cards D offsides?
You: No, because [stat]
Me: I don’t think [stat] is a good representation for reasons x, y, z
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by shake n bake on Sep 23, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure we'll see a few.
So far the Cardinals have struggled with penalties, mainly on our offensive line.
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How would you rate your pass protection against Freeney and Mathis?
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
Freeney is excellent and will be an issue.
I think part of the improvement in the Cards offense in Week 2 was the use of the short passing game. I think this is instituted specifically to mitigate the crappiness of our tackles in pass protection. And it seems to piss off Larry Fitzgerald’s brother a lot.
Also to keep Warner to short, 3 step drops over longer 5 and 7 step drops.
The O line played better last week and didnt allow a sack
Obviously the Jags d line is not as good as the Colts so I hope we’d see some tight end help and chip blocks from running backs. anything to help basically.
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The teams that do well against our offense
are the ones who can pressure Warner with a four man front. I personnally hope to see some TEs helping out this week.
Dallas Clark
We have fairly old linebackers, aside from Karlos Dansby. So covering a quick tight end may prove to be a problem. Most of us think a physical players such as Adrian Wilson or Bryant McFadden will try to cover him.
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Would you rather see a safety covering him or a linebacker?
by Sanders_fan89 on Sep 23, 2009 6:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah I'd like a quick defensive back
But I would prefer a linebacker.
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didn't play in the first game and led the team in receiving yards last week
yet still not 100%.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
He's huge.
I think most of us realized just how important he is to this offense. He’s the speed receiver to Fitzgerald route running and hands, and Boldin’s physical play. Warner needs Breaston to play.
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He spreads the field and enables Fitz and Q to make plays,
Hadn’t thought of it until now but this may contribute to YAC. Did I mention he had over 1000 receiving yards last year? He would be a solid number 2 on most every other team in the league.
Whatever happened with Alan Branch?
Some of us were hoping the Colts would draft him a few years ago when he fell all the way to us, but it looks like he hasn’t done anything yet with the Cards.
they've actually semi-moved him to DE and he's had the best two games of his career thus far
Of course by “best two games” I mean that they’re really the only two games of his career that he’s been relevant but still they’re finally getting something out of him, but it’s not as the dominant DT/NT we were hoping for.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
For years Whisenhunt has said that the light bulb has turned on for Branch
Now it appears that the bulb is flickering. He’s made some nice plays the last 2 weeks.
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So, the light bulb has been on for a couple years and
now has been flickering. So, is the bulb going to burn out soon ;-)
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: I blazed through my test in 20 minutes and sprinted back to my room just as the MNF theme song ended. Good thing too, with that 1st play. So, my streak of seeing every minute of every game since 2003 Tampa still stands. So, my Chem TA lives (for now).
Ok I guess I should proof read
Whiz has been saying that the light bulb hasn’t turned on yet for Branch.
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The Cardinals are favored by 2
does that sound right (Colts are a point better, but Cards get 3 for homefield) or should I be nervous again about sportsbooks begging for bets on the Colts?
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Sounds right to me.
Tough Sunday night game on the road, long airplane rides, and a Colts team that looks like (to outsiders) to have mucho grande problems. If I was Vegas, I would expect a pick-em for the game to yield mostly Cardinals bets. Actually, the line seems a little low. To me, it almost looks like they are begging for bets on the Colts. That would be a reason to feel comfortable going into the game.
Anyway, that’s my opinion of it. Take of it what you will. I can already tell you that I’ll be picking the Colts SU which obviously means that I don’t think the Cards will cover. Vegas made it easy this week unlike the past 2 weeks when I had to guess whether the Colts would cover or not (I was right both times.).
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: I blazed through my test in 20 minutes and sprinted back to my room just as the MNF theme song ended. Good thing too, with that 1st play. So, my streak of seeing every minute of every game since 2003 Tampa still stands. So, my Chem TA lives (for now).
Colts covered
My Dads a big sports better(i help him and im like 25-15 i think since last year(= )and he took the colts. The line started at 3. Then up to 3.5, then down to 3 again. Ending with a small rise close to game time, at colts -3.5
The colts won by 4 so they covered
~Karim "The Dream" Odeh
by KarimTheDream on Sep 23, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Hope you can answer it
It may be too late, but my question is this:
Manning just put up outreal numbers, including the most impressive 2 stats( a Win, and 27 points in 15 mins)
How do you expect your D to hold Manning down, since you obviously cant keep him on the field as little as miami did. If he gets his usual 24-25 mins, can you score enough to keep up?
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well considering that the Cards had the third best scoring offense last season
I don’t think we ever worry about ‘scoring enough.’ This might be a “whoever has the ball last” type of game but the Cards offense is just as explosive and Manning and the boys.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Didn't the Jags hold your offense to 12 points?
No offense but the Colts aren’t an offensive juggernaut. I think Miami’s secondary isn’t as good as ours. Manning will get his usuall passes and scores but I think our defense will throw a lot of blitzes his way. So far Bill Davis(our defensive coordinator) has been efficient at creating valid blitzes. We’re 2nd in the league so far with 8 sacks. I think it will just come down to who has the ball last.
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The Colts really helped the Jags D, and the Colts game really helped the Cards last week
two fluky turnovers (bad throw/decision from Peyton and Addai’s 5th fumble in over 900 touches) while deep in Jags territory. They gave away 10-14 points on their first two drives in a way that’s unlikely to be repeated.
In the 4th quarter of the Jags game their best (read:only good) pass rusher broke his leg and went down for the season. That’s probably why they got a bit of pressure against the Colts, and no pressure against the Cards.
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by shake n bake on Sep 24, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah thats very true
Ever since Manning grew out of his 25 INT’s a year phase when he was younger, the colts have been in th top of hte league in fewest turnovers.
And we lose 2 touchdowns against the jags. oh and we scored 14 not 12 buddy.. but yeah, it was 1 bad game, and on a normal game manning throws pics in the middleish of the field, not in the endzone
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by KarimTheDream on Sep 27, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
going into this season the Cards had the best home record of any team in the NFC in the past two seasons
Obviously an opening day loss to the Niners didn’t help that cause but the fact remains that the Cards are very tough at home.
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Yeah I feel that we will always have a significant home field advantage.
U of P stadium gets loud and over the years it’s been filled with more Cardinal fans and less opposing fans…minus the Cowboys game last year.
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About the transportation
I cant seem to find it anywhere, I am taking a bus to phoenix this weekend as I am going to the game.
Will there be any bus routes available after the game? or will I have to spend a lot on a taxi? I am willing to pay for that but I will arrive on bus and maybe I could depart that way too.
If there are no bus routes, are there enough taxis available after the games?
Pretty sure the bus routes stop early on Sunday
The game starts at 8 which means you won’t be out till 11 and I don’t imagine any busses will be available at that time.
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Just realized thats Eastern Time
You would get out by 8pm here. Which is late but you should be able to catch a bus. The valley metro line is 602-253-5000
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Is it true that you got totally owned last night?
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Aw, now that's not nice.
They’re in enough pain already. You don’t need to add any.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Atlanta Falcons are the only NFL team to never have back-to-back winning seasons in franchise history.
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Is being able to lord your victory over your enemies, further crushing their spirit and ingraining into their minds their inability to defeat you, in anticipation of your next meeting…
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