Adam Vinatieri washed up.
by blue31 on Sep 27, 2009 10:47 PM EDT
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Ok serious this guy Adam had his hey-days in the past but wtf this guy is missing chip shots. Adam is going to cost this team a loss if he keeps this up. He may not have a cannon foot or leg but anything under 40yrds should be money. He kicks its up .... its no good off the post, wide right, short. With all due respect Adam is no good.
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Adam Nougatieri...
…is ok in my book till he misses one we need in the playoffs
by YuenglingColts! on Sep 27, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Honestly
I appreciate Vinny’s contributions in the past, but felt it was a mistake to let Andrus go. I hope I’m proven way wrong.
How can you not love a team that does this?
by LovinBlue on Sep 27, 2009 11:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
I predict Andrus is picked up by the Seahawks after Mare missed two crucial kicks against the Bears.
I wish we had him too. Vinny is great and all, but he misses way too many of the gimme kicks. I still have faith in him to make a big kick when it matters. I just hope that he doesn’t miss a big one and we get screwed.
Insert funny signature here...
by AceOfSpades on Sep 28, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+4
To copy you’re theme. It would have been nice to keep Andrus, but we needed that darn roster spot….
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Sep 28, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
your, not you're...
Yes, I’m going to blame that on not enough coffee….
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Sep 28, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When is his contract up?
We won’t re-sign him, unless he makes some sort of miraculous, dramatic turnaround.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he’s cut during the offseason.
by hahasound on Sep 27, 2009 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he's signed for 2010
FA afterwards
The number of ways you can fool yourself is just amazing.
by shake n bake on Sep 27, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
probably 1 mil worth of bonus
so cutting him would save 1.7 mil
The number of ways you can fool yourself is just amazing.
by shake n bake on Sep 27, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
assuming a cap
The number of ways you can fool yourself is just amazing.
by shake n bake on Sep 27, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It might be worth it.
Especially considering that we can probably find a more-reliable kicker who’ll play for less than 1.7 M a year.
by hahasound on Sep 27, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm torn
I think the Vinny is done talk is premature, but I’ve never been a fan of paying a kicker over 2 million a year when FG accuracy seems mostly random among the top 25-30 kickers.
The number of ways you can fool yourself is just amazing.
by shake n bake on Sep 27, 2009 11:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that i agree with though
1 more year after this one doesn’t seem too bad to me
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
by psvirsky on Sep 27, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AV's just fine
If I recall correctly, most (or maybe all) of his game-winning playoff FG’s came after missing an easier FG earlier in the game.
He’s never been the more consistently accurate guy, but when it comes time to win games, he pulls through as much as anyone.
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
by psvirsky on Sep 27, 2009 11:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"as much as anyone"
I think you Vini is still a starting-caliber kicker (as opposed… to a backup?)… but I don’t think he can still be considered a top 5, or maybe even top 10 kicker in the league.
by hahasound on Sep 27, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
most (or maybe all) of his game-winning playoff FG’s came after missing an easier FG earlier in the game.
Exactly. There’s no question, Vinatieri pulls off some amazingly clutch kicks. But I’d almost rather have someone who can consistently put up points with those easy mid-game kicks, so we don’t have to rely on the awesome 5 seconds left, 51-yard, game-saving FG.
"There's no play that'll getcha two touchdowns!"
by Roggae on Sep 28, 2009 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clutch.
Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis
by hoosier in sodak on Sep 27, 2009 11:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Last year
Vini’s accuracy was 80%, which is good for 24th in the league among qualifying Kickers…
(here’s the part where you wince)
he was tied with Sebastian Janikowski in accuracy.
by hahasound on Sep 27, 2009 11:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
in 2007
Vini made 23/29 kicks, which is 79.3%, and 25th in the league.
This is a guy who is 36 years old and coming off hip surgery that kept him off the field until week 1.
Look, I was ecstatic when we signed this guy… but he’s just not getting it done anymore. He’s demonstrated this over the past 2.5 years.
by hahasound on Sep 27, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but Seabass has the edge in
quaalude consumption followed by vodka chasers and brawls with cops.
Vinny is way behind in those important stats.
I’ll give him another month to round into shape. It’s a concern, but still not as high on my list as Freeney’s quad or the run game. Or CB health. Or Gonzo. Come the playoffs, I might change my tune.
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
by Bobman on Sep 28, 2009 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cut him after this year
Double duty for McAfee
"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."
by Colts Homer on Sep 27, 2009 11:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he's pat freakin' mcafee!
He’ll punt, kick, and hold!
by SpazMo on Sep 28, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dropkick.
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by peytonsurdaddy on Sep 29, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure that's allowed.
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by Cassieper on Sep 29, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not the first kicker to miss a FG inside 40 yards
He won’t be the last.
by eltharion_doa on Sep 28, 2009 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i never liked vinny all the memorys i have of him are a patriot and a looser (member tha he missed a 25 fg against the bolts a few years bak)
"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing".
Johnny Unitas
by 805 on Sep 28, 2009 12:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and thanks to him we got to the AFCCC in 06
"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady
by Piojocuau on Sep 28, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both true.
My memory lines up with psvirsky’s about Vinny making the giant, HOF-sealing, highlight reel game winner…. after missing one or two earlier in the game, that would have made the final kick gravy, and not necessary.
It’s hit-and miss—Colts fans know that as well as anyone with the Vandy experience. World’s best… except when it counted.
Vinny is about average, except when it counts. I think essentially getting us to the Super Bowl in 2006 buys him some slack in returning from surgery. And McAfee’s KOs are sweet. I’d pay to see him handle triple duty (or is holding for his own FGs quadruple duty?)
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
by Bobman on Sep 28, 2009 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha mcafees a beast hes that good that he could be the holder and kicker
"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing".
Johnny Unitas
by 805 on Sep 29, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be cool.
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by Cassieper on Sep 29, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adam is the clutch king... But.
It is getting a little scary seeing him miss here, hit the upright there… I know the guy is coming off an injury – but it looks like his strength has returned – though accuracy continues to be an issue.
Washed up? Not sure … but it is a point of concern. I too doubt he’ll be retained past the off season.
by gmarius on Sep 28, 2009 4:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2006 Ravens playoff game
Nuff said.
In a way we got him more for his mind than his leg. And I’m cool with giving him a little slack. Pat should probably be kicking the over 45 yarders though. At least at this point.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Sep 28, 2009 7:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he's washed up.
Too Harsh. Give him more time to recover from his surgery. He deserves better than a title to a post claiming he’s washed up. I know you’re entitled to your opinion. But that title statement was just silly. Until (if ever) he loses us a big game, then let’s start the arguements. BTW- He showed a lot of loyalty to the Colts by not going to the Pats anniversary bash the week before last. He was invited by the pats to go, but declined.
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
by Indy Lori on Sep 28, 2009 8:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes..........
I think people are a little quick to jump off the bandwagon. No, I don’t think it’s time to dump Adam. As for some other issues, how come nobody is screaming for Keiaho’s head today? Nor Addai either? Jennings played at the very least, adequately. C’mon were supposed to be fans…………show a little faith.
by tim55 on Sep 28, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If you want
I can rip Keiaho for his stupid penalties?
by eltharion_doa on Sep 28, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
it’s one thing if you have an elite-class kicker who has one or two down years, but the guy is going on 37 years old and recently underwent HIP SURGERY. At some point, players simply decline. Is Vini at that point? It’s not definite (he COULD go on to make every one of his field goals from week four on), but eventually you have to accept that there’s quite a bit of evidence that says that he’s not the same elite kicker we paid buku bucks for, a few years ago.
by hahasound on Sep 28, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you need to....
We got a win, all penalties are stupid, and we always have some. Granted, we had 7, and need to do better. Are you a fan, a cup half empty guy, or what.
by tim55 on Sep 28, 2009 10:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well
You wanted to know why people weren’t screaming for Keiaho’s head, I just wanted to make you feel more comfortable and at home. You seem to be very angry and unhappy which is strange after a dominating win.
by eltharion_doa on Sep 28, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not unhappy at all.........
I wasn’t looking for an arguement. I just think there are some guys on this team that get a large scale evacuation every time they make a boo boo.
by tim55 on Sep 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Inconsistency now "normal"
Vinatieri has displayed inconsistency for a few years now and I agree that it’s going to catch up with the Colts in a playoff game.
He will make a great long kick now and then but field goals from 35-40 yards are the bread and butter of scoring and Vinatieri cannot be counted on to get it done anymore.
I don’t think he’s totally washed up as he proved against Miami, but a replacement needs to be found.
Watching Vinatieri kick has become just as anxious for a fan as watching the Colts try to convert a 3rd and 1 by running the ball or wondering who can fill in for Brackett.
These are all Colts weaknesses that have been going on for several years now.
You close your eyes and hope for the best.
It doesn’t have to be this way, but the Colts won’t address these types of issues.
Andrus provides a future that Vinateiri can’t and if he gets away for good, the Colts will have to start the search all over again.
by centauri on Sep 28, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We need a younger kicker
Vinatieri was good, but he’s getting too injury prone. We need a good consistent kicker. The money we spend on him should be used to bring in a new young kicker and put a little of the extra in towards a good punt returner. We still have yet to get a good punt returner.
by ColtsFanInEnemyTerritory on Sep 28, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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