Dr. Cass - Dr. Blue's Unofficial Assistant - Dwight Freeney
Sorry for stealing your gig Dr. Blue, but just like everybody else, I'm wondering what's going on with Dwight Freeney. He is so ridiculously important to this team that an extended absence (like an ACL tear) could and probably would sink this team. So, I decided to take my extra time on Monday before class (my 1st one isn't until 12:30) and do a little research into just what could be wrong with Dwight Freeney based on what we know. A fair warning beforehand: This post won't be as awesome or detailed as the Dr. Blue entries. I'm not that good. Oh, also, I'm not a doctor. I'm pretending to be an unofficial assistant to a fake doctor. How sad is that?
OK, this is what we know about the injury so far from interviews and my own eyes:
- The injury was to Freeney's right quadriceps muscle.
- Freeney had his leg bent strangely when going after Kurt Warner.
- Freeney had no problems walking off of the field, holding interviews after, and appeared to be in little pain or possibly none. Of course, I'm not Freeney so I can't know that for sure.
- He's going to have an MRI either today or tomorrow.
- Freeney said he felt/heard something pop.
So, then I did a little research. I found out from this handy site that the fact that the injury is to his quadriceps and that Freeney heard something pop (the most helpful information given out yet), makes this injury initially consistent with a right quadriceps strain. Whether you heard something pop or not is an essential question the doctor asks you when diagnosing a quad strain.
By the way, full disclosure states that I also found out that rupturing your quadriceps tendon also results in hearing a pop (which is a very serious injury), but I am 99% sure Freeney doesn't have it, because a symptom of a quadriceps tendon rupture is the complete inability to bear weight on the leg, and we all saw him walk off the field and take those interviews. No way it was a tendon rupture.
So, you may ask, it's a right quadriceps strain. What's next? The next step is to determine the grade of the strain. Luckily, it looks like we're able to do that with our information available. Thanks to this equally handy site, the parameters for each grade (or severity) of the strain are spelled out for us. It's also a sports injury site, so we don't need to adjust the symptoms and treatment to athletic terms. Let's go through the symptoms for each of them now, starting with a Grade 1 (least severe):
- A twinge in the thigh is usually felt.
- A general feeling of tightness in the thigh.
- Mild discomfort on walking.
- Probably no swelling.
- Trying to straighten the knee against resistance may be uncomfortable.
- An area of local spasm may be felt at the site of the suspected tear.
That doesn't sound too bad of an injury. Now let's look at the symptoms for a Grade 2 quadriceps strain:
- A sudden sharp pain when running, jumping or kicking.
- Unable to play on.
- Pain affects walking.
- The athlete may notice swelling or even mild bruising.
- Pain on feeling the area of the tear.
- Straightening the knee against resistance causes pain
- Unable to fully bend the knee.
OK, I've bolded the 2 most important things for you there. I didn't see anything affecting his walking when he went off of the field, and I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be standing up and taking those interviews if he was in enough pain to affect his walking. By the way, for a Grade 3 strain, you can't walk without crutches, so that's not it for sure. Based on what we've seen, my (very early) diagnosis is a Grade 1 quadriceps strain.
So, what's the treatment/prognosis for this injury? First, Freeney must apply RICE (rest, ice, compression, elevation) for 24 hours. Considering the MRI time, that would probably lead into Wednesday. Then you must use cold therapy and rest for 3 days. That leads into the weekend. If there is no pain then, Freeney can come back to practice (with the doctors' all-clear of course). So, what does this tell us about Freeney's future (considering my diagnosis is correct)?
- This is nowhere near a long term injury. The popping noise is worrying everybody, but it doesn't always signal the worst case scenario. Freeney walking on his own with no limp off of the field is what we can really focus on.
- Freeney is out vs. Seattle Sunday. Once the diagnosis comes, Freeney will be resting and staying off of it until the weekend. No way Freeney can come back for the game. Luckily, we shouldn't need him against Seattle. The Colts are on fire right now, and the Seahawks are not a good team.
- Freeney will most likely not play vs. Tennessee either. With the fact that the Colts have a bye week directly after this game and knowing the Colts' injury tendencies in recent years, I have a strong feeling that Freeney will probably be 80-90% going into this game and Polian will keep him out to prevent any further injury. Then Freeney will be ready to go right after the bye week.
- There is no evidence that this kind of injury will affect Freeney's play down the road. He should be fine once he's fully healed.
So, to sum up my diagnosis and prognosis:
(Early) Diagnosis: Grade 1 quadriceps strain
Return to the field: 100% by St. Louis game (Game #6)
[Update] Dwight Freeney did in fact turn out to have a mild Grade 1 quadriceps strain as I diagnosed. But instead of taking it a little easy and resting until the St. Louis game, Freeney was ready to go and played on passing downs in the very next game (vs. Seattle). He looked great and was well enough to execute his famous inside spin move on his second play in and record a sack in garbage time. So, my diagnosis was correct, but I was happily way off on the prognosis. Freeney's a tough beast. There's no way around it.
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On condition of a grade 1 strain. I’d be interested to know what he can expect to feel in the quad on the day after. With me, the day or two after a strain is worse than the initial injury.
You're correct.
The pain when initially healing the strain (the RICE period) is often worse then the immediate pain of the injury. I could never figure out why it was that way, but I experienced the same thing when I sprained my ankle, and something similar to that with both of my arm breaks.
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addrenaline
It’s a great and natural pain reliever
by Colts Syndrome on Oct 1, 2009 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Nice job Cass.
I didn’t even know what a quadricep was. I never listened in health class.
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Thanks.
Apparently, health has applications in real life. Who would’ve thunk it?
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Um, in NJ where I grew up, HS health classes tended to include stuff about, you know
um, the next generation of little Colt fans. At least senior year, when it was too late for some.
So I hope SOMEBODY was listening, to at least part of health class.
Nice job cass.
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
Shame on you, Lori
What? You only listen when Peyton is talking?
Well yes, but
don’t tell my husband.
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
Hey Lori,
Jeff Saturday just told me that you better listen to him too, Peyton don’t get nothing done till Saturday gives him the ball.
by tim55 on Sep 28, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Saturday and Manning, the dynamic duo! LOL
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
I wonder
even if Freeney is only going to be out for 2-3 weeks, whether this might spur Polian into re-signing Marcus Howard.
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I guess this is what happens when doctors go on vacation – lol
How can you not love a team that does this?
Maybe Cass can be your nurse practitioner? lol
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wonder what he would look like in one of those little white hats?
lol
How can you not love a team that does this?
Or those white nylons with the line up the back,
and hell, even a garter belt. BWAHHHAHAHAHAHA.
He did post a photo of himself recently
perhaps someone with PhotoShop skills could…. ?
How can you not love a team that does this?
Ah.
Glad to see you guys are having fun…..
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Uh-oh...
Indy Lori’s pretty good at the photo shop thing…I’d be very worried, Cass..
heh heh heh heh
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by peytonsthebest on Sep 28, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Or on a drinking binge after losing to Oregon
Pac-10, how messed up is this conference?
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
It's OK Cass,
You got your rec’s. Now you gotta take the heat.
Hey,
I still need 1 more to move up to the recommended FanPosts. Give me that and I’ll be fine.
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Limping?
I thought i did see Freeney limping ever so slightly as he went down the tunnel. Even so, it is clearly not a Grade III strain. I hope you’re right that it’s just Grade I and he will be back by Week 6 against StL. Worst case we have @StL, vs.SFO, and vs.Hou after the bye. All very winnable. I would expect him to be on the field vs. NE no matter what.
confirmed a torn quad
(which is just a different word fror strain, but no word on the severity yet)
As some of us stated overnight/morning one big concern, other than getting Freeney back, of course, is that even if he does come back, a quad is important for explosiveness. Freeney has shown an uncanny ability to come back from a really dire injury (liz francis or whatever her name is) and be even better than before the injury, but he also had 1/2 a season + off season + a lightened work load to get into that shape.
Google, much to Bill Polian’s delight, isn’t real helpful when takling about muscle tear recovery times. But from Cass’ link, it seems like a Grade I or II strain/tear would have a max recovery time of 10 weeks and a Grade III tear (where the muscle is completely torn in two, leaving a gap in the muscle, would require surgery and I think IR?
Which brings us to me whining!
If its a 10 week injury 1) We’re running out of roster spots. Are we going to have to part with Sorgi or Painter at some point? I mean, at this point if we love Painter long term, don’t we have to say good bye to Sorgi? I don’t know that anyone is picking Sorgi up if he’s cut, and if Peyton is seriously hurt its not like we’re eeking into the playoffs with Sorgi time (no offense, Jim) and we can’t keep thinning out other positions. We’re going to be thin at DE now. We’re thin at LB (unless Session and Brackett are both back to 100%, then I’m guessing Senn is gone). We’re thin at safety. The only place we’re overflowing with talent is short CBs that give up ridiculously large cushions (Sorry, every post needs a tim jennings insult!).
So to the whine: Football, which is a much more physically grueling sport than baseball, basketball and MAYBE hockey (but its close), needs something like the other sports have. A short/medium term IR or Disabled list where you can have the roster exemption, but you can’t use that player for x games. Hell, even leave his salary on the cap. It doesn’t matter. But in a sport where even the bottom 11 are constantly in explosive contact situations (special teams) and you’re constantly having injuries, 53 men isn’t enough for 17 weeks, imo.
I seriously doubt a 6 week recovery time.
That’s the absolute max and Freeney is a fast healer (remember him coming back from the Lisfranc injury at full strength?). Plus, it sounds kind of like a sprained ankle. Stay off of it for a week or 2 and you’ll be fine.
I’m willing the bet you anything that it isn’t a Grade 3. He would be writhing in pain and have to be carted off of the field.
If it’s a Grade 2, it’s probably a mild form of it or a more severe Grade 1 since he was able to walk off of the field fine. I still say he rests and ices it for a week or so and gradually works himself back into practice.
I still say he comes back (maybe only on passing downs) against St. Louis.
Oh, by the way, it feels good to be right. No thanks to say-nothing Polian.
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I meant 10 week recovery time.
Argh.
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1) I guess I do remember the lisfranc injury, since I reference it in my post (very first thing I mentioned)
2) I said that its a max recovery time of 10 weeks. I mean, thats what the website you linked said. I would never doubt the validity of your links. So a max of 10 weeks. It could be less, sure, thats why 10 is the max. Obviously, I would love for it to be a 2 week revovery time. If its a 2 week recovery time, I’d do cart wheels (and trust me, that’d be a feat). Knowing the Colts, I have a feeling that the shortest it would be is week 7, coming out of the bye.
3) If its a Grade II, its not a form of Grade I. Its a Grade II. I’m honestly not trying to be confontational, but this is why the intergoogle and web MD are dangerous. Its hard for medical students, let alone us, to understand this stuff. Further, he’s a professional football player, so they are going to be both more conservative (with recovery time) and more aggressive (with treatment) than most people get. He has access to some of the best doctors in the world. I’m sure they’ll min/max his rehabilitation as best they can.
4) I don’t really get the last sentence. He heard a pop. In his quad. What were you expecting it to be? I’m pretty sure people were saying it was a quad strain last night after the game. Further, what’s Polian going to say? The injury happened at the end of a game at 10pm on the west coast. “Dwight Freeney has a strained quad, its swollen and we’re about to get on a plane, we won’t get home until 3am our time, so we’ll probably let the guy get 3 hours of sleep before forcing him to come into work. But since you usually have to wait around 24 hrs for the swelling and stuff to go down for an MRI anyhow, we’ll probably wait till Tuesday. And hey, I’m Bill Polian, so even though we’ll have the results at 9am Tuesday morning, I’ll tell reporters I don’t talk to the doctors until 11pm, which is what I always tell reporters, and they always buy it. And then I disappear until Sunday. Mwahaha.”
Anyhow, lots of good information in the post. I just remember seeing too many injuries thinking ‘gosh he’s done’ and then they come back or ‘gosh, he walked off the field fine and he gave us his patented grin’, and then he’s gone.
One thing we can agree on is ‘get well soon, DFree’.
My last sentence is a shot at Polian
because he gave none of this info out. We had to hear from weird and unknown sources that Freeney heard a pop. I love Polian as a GM, but I hate how he treats the media and the fans. I know that you agree with me on this because of that last part making fun of Polian.
Sorry about the Lisfranc thing. The weird spelling along with me being hurried trying to juggle a couple of threads made me miss it.
It can be a mild Grade 2 or a severe Grade 1. There is no definitive line where you distinguish between the two, at least that didn’t come up in my research.
The reason I was talking about the 10 week recovery time was because you were already talking about roster spots and replacing him for the moment. I think that’s a little premature, especially with Freeney’s fast-healing.
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No I'm not,
though I enjoy being right about that. Yes we do need to stop the rush against Tennessee. That would kill us if we didn’t.
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Nobody knows.
Bob is a curious case as he’s injury-prone and has had issues with swelling that won’t go away for a while. Reports from the IndyStar (Phil B) are that Bob should be back next week (Tennessee).
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After reading the post and comments,
I kept thinking of Doogie Howser-teenage Doctor. Cass, you might not remember the TV show. But you remind me of him. LOL
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Nope.
Never heard of it. Probably before my time.
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It is.
Early 90s, I think?
HOWEVER:
Doogie Howser was played by a kid actor who went on to become increasingly awesome… Neil Patrick Harris!
Born in 1989
I’ve heard about Doogie Howser the VH1’s “I Love” series, but I’ve never seen the show. They should show reruns of it since Neil Patrick Harris is TV star again.
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If memory serves...
it was on in the early to mid 80s.
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by peytonsthebest on Oct 3, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
From the always-trustworthy wikipedia:
“ABC aired the show from September 1989 to March 1993 for four seasons totaling 97 episodes.”
LOL...
so much for my memory. The 80’s were pretty much a blur anyway. =-)
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Oct 8, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
A blur?
Now I know what the young people were doing in the 60s and 70s, so what was going on in the 80s? ;-)
"Do I believe in aliens?" Stephon Marbury asked. "I don't know, because I've never seen one. But I believe in Jesus because I saw him in the shower the other day."
Pretty much the same...
only different. ;-)
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Oct 8, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions

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