2009 NFL Cutdown Day- Open Thread

I see us keeping 10 DL

Mathis DE
E. Johnson UT/NT
A. Johnson NT
Freeney DE
Brock DE/UT
Dawson DE/UT
Foster UT/FB/DE
Howard DE
Moala UT/NT
Taylor NT

Maybe we put in a waiver claim for King….

by GoHorse88 on Sep 5, 2009 8:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

wow

Grady is a suprise cut. ive had a good impression of him so far.

by MARVININDY on Sep 5, 2009 8:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Apparently this year’s Colin Ferrell. Showed the most of any Colt DT during the preseason IMO. They must have someone on the waiver wire like King who intrigues them more. It couldn’t be Taylor or Muir.

by GonzoBlue on Sep 5, 2009 8:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hopefully they'll sign him to the PS

by jocre on Sep 5, 2009 8:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Grady?

Hopefully they sign him to the PS

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by Colts Homer on Sep 5, 2009 8:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

#69

Colts must like the DT Gill, I thought Grady would make the team. I guess that’s why we aren’t GMs

IN POLIAN I TRUST

by colt44 on Sep 5, 2009 9:14 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs

GILL

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Grady

They must think they can get him to the PS because he was the most promising of the non-starters on the DL. I can’t remember if it was Colts Homer or bamock, but whoever said he was the best “football player” was dead on. He looks like he can be a really good player in this league. I had a feeling it would come down to him or Muir, but I liked Grady more. This looks good for Muir now. If they get Grady to the practice squad I would not be surprised at all if he is called up during the season.

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by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 10:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Muir

I think the difference was between Grady and Foster. Both are UTs. Muir is a NT. I think Foster beat him out for a roster spot because they like Foster as a FB. But, we shall see.

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by BigBlueShoe on Sep 5, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agree between the two...

I thought Foster had a chance to get cut due to Grady’s play, but it looks like (so far) I am wrong regarding Foster. Kind of disappointed regarding Grady, but in Polian and the Colts I trust. Besides possibly fullback, I still do not think Foster will have as big an impact as last year or will have as much an opportunity on line this year. But that just means the depth is way way better than last year.

by ColtsFanNChiTown on Sep 5, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If the draft is a crapshoot

then roster cuts probably are too.

by shoein on Sep 5, 2009 10:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

David Tyree

He was cut by the Giants today. Tyree is an outstanding special teams player. Prior to his now famous catch in the SB, he was known as one of the best STers in football.

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by BigBlueShoe on Sep 5, 2009 11:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Is he a returner or a gunner?

by CooperManningsNotTrying on Sep 5, 2009 11:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

he's never returned a kick in the pros

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TyreDa00.htm

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by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

one of the best gunners ever...

But it’s kind of a luxury to carry someone specifically for that purpose.

In other news, Rhodes got cut by the Bills. What an inglorious end.

by willyduer on Sep 5, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's basically what they did with Roy Hall though

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

nah

Hall was still a reserve WR that could’ve played in that capacity. He was there to earn his way into playing time there, not as a special teams only type with no hope of ever catching passes.

I suppose if they didn’t have Garcon or Collie and had a need for a serviceable 4th WR, then Tyree as a gunner would make sense.

by willyduer on Sep 5, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow, Grady is already cut?

There goes my chance for a perfect score in Phil B’s roster game…..

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think I had him too

I don’t even remember what I put down….will have to check again.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cass,

Remember last years Phil B. blog contest to name the award for his roster contest? The NaPolian award? I just wanted to do a little bragging here….I came up with that.

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino

by Indy Lori on Sep 5, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Really?

That’s awesome. Good creativity there. It was the perfect name. Sadly, all of the comments from years past were deleted on Phil B’s blog, so I can’t go and look, but nice. How did you do in the roster contest last year?

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I stunk.

I don;t go to Phil’s blog anymore. I asked some direct questions and he just ignored me. Maybe they were dumb questions, I don’t know. But Stampede Blue has more humor to it, and there’s a more diverse group here. Also a LOT more ladies, which is nice. People here are so willing to answer and be friendly. Plus, there’s a lot more information here. Also I think some, not all, sports writers think they’re better than the average fan. This is by the fans for the fans, which I love.

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino

by Indy Lori on Sep 5, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Phil B

I like his blog because he has good access to some of the info that StampedeBlue doesn’t, but I agree with you about the quality of dialogue here vs. Phil B’s. I have also asked him some direct questions in the past and he always seems to ignore me too. I started coming over here for the same reasons you did.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 6, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

there's a price for access.

BBS has talked about this. In exchange for access the Colts demand control. Access is dependent on you toeing the line they set in all your writing. I’m not sure what you two asked, but he might not be allowed to answer.

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 6, 2009 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's a good point, Hadn't thought of that.

But if I recall correctly my questions were about the actual game of football, not for opinions on the Colts themselves. What really turned me off about the Indy Star really wasn’t Phil’s fault, Kravitz made a comment one time in the paper about the “crazies” at the games, meaning adoring fans. And I remember thinking at the time, well if it wasn’t for the fanatics there would be no team, and not much need for a sports writer during football season.

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino

by Indy Lori on Sep 6, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bills cut veteran RB Rhodes

Need I say more.

I know this is a stupid question considering we just drafted brown. But with hart out and both simpson and ball not been that impressive. Could we pick rhodes up

by colt29 on Sep 5, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Could

But I don’t know if we should unless Hart goes to IR and we can get Ball on the PS.

I also wish I had time and motivation to blog at Speed Blue Nation

by Bullard47 on Sep 5, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eh...

I’d rather have a young guy who has some upside over Rhodes, who isn’t going to improve any.

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by MrNFL on Sep 5, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rhodes can return kicks

Don’t forget, Rhodes also returned kick-offs for us in the past. I could see us getting him as the 3rd RB and also the kick returner.

by Don Booza on Sep 5, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not that well though

The last times he returned kicks, he was pretty crappy. I’d take Ball or Hart over him without a doubt.

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by MrNFL on Sep 5, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would only in case of injury. However, Rhodes used to return kicks for us and I wouldn’t be opposed to him taking on the return duties given what we have seen from the others guys.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

oops

should probably read comments before I post. Booza beat me to it.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think everyone liked Grady.

Biggest surprise indeed, here’s to hoping he makes it to the practice squad!

by bluecru on Sep 5, 2009 12:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Howard?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/05/howard-getting-gate-from-colts/

Just a rumor at this point.

He hasn’t dominated, but he has shown that he has some real potential, without totally screwing up, as far as I can tell…

by willyduer on Sep 5, 2009 1:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

If they cut howard

I’m gonna be questioning the sanity of some personnel people.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

He is the only other speed rush threat behind Freeney and Mathis. I trust Coyer but Howard’s shoes would be tough to fill in case of injury.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've thought he looked good

and who else after Freeney/Mathis can bring serious pressure

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

exactly

he’s pretty one dimensional, for sure… but that dimension is pretty important. I guess that maybe they figure if Freeney goes down they’ll just blitz more or something. Or maybe there’s a sense that he can only beat 2nd string LTs? Who knows… definitely a surprise though.

I wonder who Florio’s source is.

by willyduer on Sep 5, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope he's wrong

and not just because I hate Florio

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't even hate him

but this is the kind of info that shouldn’t be getting leaked to him, so I hope it turns out to be BS. He has been dead wrong with some other assumptions about the Colts in the past so it’s possible.

by willyduer on Sep 5, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Florio

With he being a lawyer he probably has some agents and league reps in his bag.

by GonzoBlue on Sep 5, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

definitely

it just seems like this kind of info would get out from other sources before it got to those types. Or that if they knew Howard they’d know them all.

by willyduer on Sep 5, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

its in the Star per Chappel, too

Yikes!

The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in the stars, but in ourselves.

by Coltsfan58 on Sep 5, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Change, there's that word again

Is the cutting of Howard a signal to more defensive change in the years to come or just a player that didn’t come as far as they had hoped? I thought he was fairly safe in making the roster. Where is the pass rush depth. I guess josh Thomas makes it again.

by GonzoBlue on Sep 5, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't like Thomas

he brings ZERO pressure off the end. They are going to have to blitz more, especially if Freeney was injured.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I started to worry about Howard making the squad at the last preseason game

I even asked on here and phil B’s blog, most people thought I was crazy, now it’s a real concern. I hope he makes it but, I got the feeling he gets cut in favor of Dawson.

Defense is more important than breathing.

by BetterD on Sep 5, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wheeler

Any chance they could now move him to DE? I know the SAM role isn’t as flashy as the WILL but he doesn’t look instinctive as a LB. Rushing the passer was supposed to be a strength of his.

by GonzoBlue on Sep 5, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He'll be ok at SAM

It took Session a while to adjust to playing SAM, It will take Wheeler a little while also.

Defense is more important than breathing.

by BetterD on Sep 5, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Doubt it

He’s been groomed for that spot, just give him time. He’s got the tools just needs game time and reps to put it all together.

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by Bama Blue on Sep 5, 2009 1:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

As long as he can get the tackling shored up

He has the perfect physique for it. In time I think he will be good also.

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by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope you guys are right

I’m just not that convinced. I wasn’t a big fan of the pick when it happened, so I’m a little biased.

by GonzoBlue on Sep 5, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Howard had a sack and a half

in one game of DE play last year. Cutting him would be nothing short of retarded.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

they've seen more than we have

if he gets cut it’s because he’s looked like shit in practice or they don’t want small DE’s that aren’t of Mathis’ caliber.

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

I’ll trust a football experts judgement over my own on this one.

by yellowsnow on Sep 5, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

sigh

I will too, but it’s fun to think that we know more!

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by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+50

Caldwell isn’t the only one making these desicions. If Howard was good, I’m about 90% sure that we would keep him.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

totally agree

That would be the dumbest cut of the day

by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know it's a bit off topic

and a bit annoying because I’ve been saying it for days but we still need people in our fantasy football league. If you are interested go to http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/leagueoffice?leagueI. It’s called Costa Rica Legue

Go Colts!

by fpacheco on Sep 5, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Don't you think cutting Howards shows

they kinda want to make changes on defense? Maybe this means Josh Thomas is staying

Go Colts!

by fpacheco on Sep 5, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Changes

Like they decided they were making too many sacks.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If so, why?

We know what Thomas is, and that’s not enough to stay on the roster most of the time. Howard seemed to have upside—although obviously the coaches didn’t think it was enough or were tired of waiting for it.

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by Coltsfan58 on Sep 5, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is Thomas staying?

I’m not sold on that. I see Brock, Dawson, Freeney, Mathis as DEs and Johnson, Johnson, Taylor, Muir and Foster as DTs. Who am I missing?

I just don’t think they will keep Thomas because he is so average. They could do better. At the same time, he is better against the run so this could be Coyers way of saying run defense is first and foremost and if we need help with the pressure we will bring Bullitt or Wheeler or everyone up the middle…

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Missing Filli Moala

Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shit but, hey, I'm in a police station.

by TouchdownColts on Sep 5, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They haven't cut Matthews yet?

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Sep 5, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Matthews

is halfway to Canada right now. They didn’t even have to tell him.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sweet.

Now, they need to NOT hand out #83 to anyone else.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Sep 5, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think we ejected him from

the plane after that last preseason game.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Has it been confirmed we cut Howard?

Go Colts!

by fpacheco on Sep 5, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

indy star

refresh the story. I updated the post

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

nvm

THis whas the worst decision the Colts have ever made

by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

chill

I love Marcus Howard, but I’m confident that the Colts FO and coaches no better than I do.

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

In general maybe

But even the best make crappy personnel moves, and deliberately cutting proven depth at the single most important defensive position is the definition of crappy personnel move.

No way he makes it to the PS.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not saying they can't be wrong here

but when me and you disagree with a move they make it’s a safe bet that they are the ones that are right.

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

NO FUCKING KIDDING

We saw it in 07. If Mathis OR Freeney goes down, the season is SHOT. We’ve got NO depth at pass rush now, CuJo and Howard BOTH gone after one year. Absolutely goddamned absurd.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wheeler, Session, Bullitt and Sanders can blitz, they have better DTs

Hayden and Powers can play man. The Colts have much more flexablity now than in 2007. They don’t have to get pass rush from just the DEs.

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If the Colts play a team like the 2007 Patriots

blitzing will only bring about failure. The giants only won the superbowl because they rushed only 4

by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

besides

why not have the ability to rush 4 and blitz? it will keep teams guessing

by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Still have great rushers.... Just not the depth

DID SOMEONE SAY CHAMPIONSHIP

by BROWNdude on Sep 5, 2009 2:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

do you build your roster around the chance that you'll lose a starting DE or two and face the most prolific offense in league history

or do you plan for the certainty you’ll face a bunch of teams that want to run it down your throat?

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They won't have to run it

when one of our pro-bowlers goes down and the QB has all damn day to pass.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

when?

aren’t you a ray of sunshine

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

/drunk

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The 07 Chargers game scarred me

I’ll admit it. Without Free and Mathis, our D tends towards the pathetic. Howard looked like he could be Mathis 2.0.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

For Howard to play…. 2 of the 3 (Free, Mathis, Brock) would have to be hurt. Not sure we win if that happens

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by BROWNdude on Sep 5, 2009 2:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

All I have to say

is that in 07, Dawson at DE made Billy Volek look like Peyton Manning.

This is a mind-bogglingly terrible move. Just bad from every angle. Bad bad bad shitty awful terrible bad.

Almost as bad as knowing you have no starting-quality LT and then not drafting a tackle.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

exactly

that was the point i was bout to bring up. No pass rush depth and this is how opposing QB’s will look

by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dawson was a DT in that game (or at least thats where he got the start

hobbled Mathis and injured Brock were the starting DEs. Darrell Reid was a sub DE.

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Volek

threw two screen passes and converted like one other 3rd down. I don’t think it would have made a difference.

That game was lost because Marvin’s fumble took the air out of the building and every time the Colts had a chance to break it open they failed (Kenton Keith)….1st and goal with about 4 mins to go in the game. The Colts beat themselves.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lets all just hope florio is being a douce

and lying about the whole howard is cut thing. Nothing good will come of Howard being cut

by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

So many wasted draft picks because of Dungy's philosophy

It sucks that Howard has to go, but I like what Coyer is doing with the defense.

by KingRichard on Sep 5, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

+1000000000

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Coyer is all balls man, and I like balls.

DEFENSE ATTACK!

by KingRichard on Sep 5, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Balls

balls are great. HUGE balls. And Coyer has the biggest, balls of them all.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And we might have

Lance Ball with it.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Woorst cut of the day

by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Confirmed

Howard, Matthews, and Mendenhall cut.
http://www.indystar.com/article/20090905/SPORTS03/90905006/Colts+release+defensive+end+Howard

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by BigBlueShoe on Sep 5, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Coyer said we weren't going to blitz as much because we have pass rushers

well looks like that aiint happening. They got rid of all their pass rush depth from the end position behind freeney and mathis

by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Injuries

It is best to have solid backups, but until Freeney or Mathis is injured it will be a moot point. IF they do, we will have to find someone from the PS or on the market. It wouldn’t be the first time a team did that.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It won't be the first time

that it doesn’t work and we’re one-and-done in the playoffs.

Polian himself has said that if you don’t have pass-rushing DEs, you don’t have a prayer. Why he would work against his own philosophy is mystifying.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

they have pass rushing DEs

they don’t have pure pass rushing backups

big difference. This year they actually have some bltizing ability

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're usually right shake

I’m PRAYING that you are, believe me. But the total lack of depth makes me worried. Really really really worried. DE depth was one of my ten reasons that the Colts would win the super bowl, and now all that depth has been cut for Josh effing Thomas.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and thomas

doesnt fit polians philosophy since he cant rush the QB at all

by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Players have nothing to do with “Polian’s philosophy”. He isn’t the defensive coordinator.

by KingRichard on Sep 5, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not so fast

Are we sure that Josh effing Thomas is going to make the team? I don’t believe it until I see it. I agree that a lack of depth at DE in regards to speed rushing ability is a little concerning, but stopping the run is one of, if not THE most crucial thing to getting this defense back up to the top in the league.

I can’t say it enough, with Coyer comes flexibility and different looks. We don’t know what we are going to see until the season starts. They might have Mathis as OLB in some situations for all we know.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Stopping the run is important

But not at the expense of what the D already does quite well, IE getting to the passer.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

again we are talking about a backup

this isn’t an issue unless Freeney or Mathis get hurt, and Brock isn’t a bad DE either. 2007 was a perfect storm of injuries. Freeney, Mathis and Brock.

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's not bad

But he’s not that great either. He’s a strong utility guy, can swap positions and the like. But as a pure DE he’s a weakness.

All I can say is they must be head-over-heels in LOVE with Dawson at DE to make this move.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right

unlike in years past, where Meeks struggled to come up with a plan to bring pressure, we have Coyer, who is an innovator when it comes to bringing pressure and making offenses guess on every play. We shouldn’t jump to conclusions just because they released a single one-dimensional player.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is Mathis "one dimensional"?

You could make that argument. It would also be moronic to cut him. Only difference is Howard hasn’t made any Pro-Bowls…yet.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mathis is a very good tackler

he just doesn’t get off blocks well

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes he is

But he is better at what he does than Howard is. We can’t keep them all.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mathis Freeney

Dawson Howard…that’s four roster spots for the four best DEs (counting Brock at DT). No need to keep them ALL, CuJo was just an odd man out but Howard is a frakkin gamer. It’s a mistake to cut him; that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I liked Howard too

I’m just saying that I trust them. If Howard is eligible for the practice squad they will get him to the practice squad. Howard doesn’t fit with any other team’s defense in the NFL. He is too small and hasn’t proven himself to be good enough to make up for it.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fingers crossed

But I don’t think you can call Howard unproven. He’s taken advantage of every opportunity he’s had. 1.5 sacks in almost no PT, Mathis only had 3.5 his first year and he played every game.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he fits perfectly with what the bears like to do, and they help at defensive end.

i bet he ends up on the bears, and i bet he looks pretty damn good.

by saintnixon on Sep 5, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

oops

“they NEED help.”

by saintnixon on Sep 5, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

do you really want to run the denver defensew?

bring everybody up to the line of scrimmage? that is flat out dumb

by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I dont want to constantly blitz if Mathis and Freeney have to sit

due to an injury or fatique. Am I in favor of blitzing? yes. Do I want to blitz constantly to compensate for them not being there and risk big passing plays? hell no. Hopefully the Colts fins a way to get howard back and not on the PS either, on the active roster

by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

as opposed to

sending out a bunch of munchkins that are faster than everybody else so they can get run all over, give 15 yards of cushion on every 3rd down and stay on the field for 12 game minutes at a time. I will gladly accept the change.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

we will get rid of those

anc echange them for 20+ yard pass plays by blitzing every down. Ask the bears how it worked out for them. more sacks check. More big pass plays for touchdowns? check and check

by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

the money is in offense. that’s how it is. we aren’t going to blitz every down. i think you are being a little extreme on this one, and i like your passion, but everything’s gonna be alright.

repeat: everything’s gonna be alright….sing it back to yourself.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Everything might be already

And I know betting against injuries is pretty much the only way to live in the NFL. You put your money in your best guys and cross your fingers. I just don’t want to see January with our two best pass rushers gone and we let our third-best one go in September to clear a spot for a “run-stopper”.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's a slippery slope

but they have to make those tough decisions and I trust the guy who is making them.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

your right i am exaggerating a bit

but I just dont want to see another performance like in 2007 when Freeney went down. Even when Mathis was healthy the defense still wasn’t able to generate pressure. will they be able too by blitzing? yes, but if the sam senerio where mathis and freeney went down occurs, then the Cotls will have no choice but to blitz on every down. Im not saying its going to happen (god I hope it doesn’t) but injuries can happen on any given play. If i learned anything, depth is very important and no depth can spell doom.

by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly

Great starters are good. Great depth is better.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

another way of looking at it

better cover corners will help with the blitzing too. Powers may be a steal.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agree about the Polian comment

but I trust that Coyer knows what he is doing. There is going to be a subtle, or maybe not so subtle change in philosophy on defense and hopefully on offense, which will certainly change this team and hopefully for the better.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Blitzing?

I don’t know about you but the Colts didnt really scare anybody blitzing this preseason and usually its very easy to blitz in the preseason.

I hate to say it guys, but this team is relying wayyyy too much on #18. One guy can only do so much.

by MasterRWayne on Sep 5, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Preseason

they weren’t even trying. Watch the Philly game again, when the starters were playing in the first quarter. Philly had trouble with it. That is what I expect from them all year. It’s totally different when the starters are in the game. The starters are probably 10 times better and that is a conservative estimate.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Anyway, what's done is done

I wish Howard the best in his career, I have a feeling he’s gonna make the Colts look very, very silly.

Of course, could be that no one wants a Colts-type DE and we can steal him back to the PS. (enter prayer here).

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

that's what i'm thinking

Polian knows what he is doing.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Howard is not eligible for PS

a player cannot participate on the practice squad for more than three seasons, or if he has accrued a year of NFL experience (six or more games on a club’s 53-man active roster or official Injured Reserve list.) If the player was on the active list for fewer that 9 games during their “only Accrued Season(s)”, they maintain their eligibility for the practice squad

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by deshawn zombie on Sep 5, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

good to know

I wasn’t sure about that. Looks like they just didn’t want him then.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Philly

Yeah well Philly’s O-Line didn’t even play this pre-season. Everyone pressured them.

by MasterRWayne on Sep 5, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The point is

the defense looked and played a ton better when the starters were in the game, which was the Philly game and no other game so far that we have seen. If Giordano wasn’t in there and getting burned by that deep ball that any other competent safety would have been able to defend from the backside, they would have held them to 3 or maybe 0 points.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

All of this for an unproven player...

He hasn’t done shit to deserve this much respect. If he was a jr. Mathis…. He’d be here. He has never even gone up against a starting tackle in the NFL. The Tenn game doesn’t count as it was against back ups. He didn’t light anyone up this preseason either. Just a hunch that Polian, Coyer, and Caldwell know more than us.

DID SOMEONE SAY CHAMPIONSHIP

by BROWNdude on Sep 5, 2009 3:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs

+1

couldn’t agree more. I like Howard but I’m not in love with him.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I might be in love with him

I’ll admit, I have a thing for players with dreads.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dreads

I actually wish they would cut that sh*t off. I like the clean shaven look. Even on Peyton. Beware of the FIVE!!!

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Howard has 9 games played

pretty sure he isn’t PS eligible.

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Jinx

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by deshawn zombie on Sep 5, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wish I would have replied to the same comment so we could tell who was first

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't you need starts

to make you PS ineligible? That was my (admittedly flawed) understanding.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no weeks on active roster or IR

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

well actually it says active list

don’t know if that counts players on the 53 man roster who were inactive, but either way Howard has too many for the PS

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

link to the rules

As I posted above

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by deshawn zombie on Sep 5, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Let's come at this from a different angle

John Matthews was waved.

I think we can ALL agree on that one.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Good one

I laughed.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

EVERYONE CHILL THE %#@% OUT!

Dear god. One guy gets cut and now the freakin world is ending? Let’s all take a deep breath and just think about the situation before we react and nearly give ourselves a heart attack.

Cutting Howard has nothing to do with Polian or his “philosophy.” This is Coyer’s defense now and the types of players he likes and whom he thinks fit best in his defense aren’t people like Marcus Howard. That’s just the reality of the situation and you’re just going to have to come to grips with this.

The reason I like this move and his willingness to beef up this defense is because it’s time for a change. We’ve run the Dungy defense for long enough, and Dungy is gone. You guys were all excited when Coyer first came and now all of the sudden when he starts making moves to shape it how he wants you are flipping your lids, I don’t get it.

The defensive line is getting a much needed boost in terms of size but at the same time it is NOT losing the athleticism. Keyunta Dawson isn’t some slow fat guy, he’s still super athletic. The only difference between him and Howard is that he’s bigger, that’s it. This means some 6’10 300+ lb lineman won’t be able to just smash him into the ground as easily. I like this transition. Actually, I love it.

by KingRichard on Sep 5, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I missed you. Don’t leave ever again.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

<3

by KingRichard on Sep 5, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here's my problem

I haven’t seen a single thing from Key that implies that he’s got the quickness to get around the corner and to the QB OR that he’s got stoutness in run support. Big for big’s sake is not a strength. I desperately want Dawson to make me eat my words, so we’ll just have to see. As I said up there, they must be absolutely in love with him to make this move.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's not what they are counting on him for

Mathis and Freeney will be in the game when they want guys to rush the QB. Key and Brock will be in the game when they want someone to stand in to help against the rush.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Then a team goes PA

and has all day and finds a wide open player down the field. Thats why I dont like it. I hope im wrong, dead wrong, but thats the way I feel about this situation of using brock and key on running downs.

by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Freeney

will be in there on run downs too. If they need pressure, Coyer will get pressure. I’m not nearly as worried as you are about it.

Lets talk about the running game….I wish the Colts had more of a commitment to the run game instead of dropping back so much. Play action is what built this offense. Bring it back!

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly bro. The coaching staff watches this guy play day in and out, so he must be worth something right? I mean, if he really did suck, or didn’t fit their criteria schematically, his ass would be gone. Just look at Steve Justice.

The Colts don’t make rash decisions mang, that’s why I’m not worried.

by KingRichard on Sep 5, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And we can't claim draft nepotism

Howard was a 5th rounder, Key was a 7th rounder. He must have something.

The Jags will have the first say on that question.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope so too

becuase Key didn’t show the ability to penetrate into the backfield, generate pressyre or get a sack and he played against second stringers.

by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The one time he had a shot

He got juked by the QB.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1000000

DID SOMEONE SAY CHAMPIONSHIP

by BROWNdude on Sep 5, 2009 3:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Since 2006

The last couple of drafts Polian has been missing on and missing by quite a wide margin. Never seen drafts were so few players are still on the time after only a few years.

Its really affecting the team. Particularly the O-Line.

by MasterRWayne on Sep 5, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

"Drafting is like hitting in baseball

A .300 average is pretty damn good."

I think Polian is still around that number.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Look at the 2007 draft...

Its certainly not around .300

Of that draft class only Gonzo, Ugoh and Dawson are left.

Really bad draft. Polian used to be like .500 or .600 with the draft!

by MasterRWayne on Sep 5, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And

Gonzo is the only good one out of that. Ugoh is a wuss and Dawson is barely on the team.

by MasterRWayne on Sep 5, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

3/8 is above .300

Of course, Ugoh isn’t looking so hot right now.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Read my post

Read my post above yours. I consider “hitting” in draft to be drafting a player that becomes a starter. In the 2007 class we only got one with Gonzo. The rest are either gone or are scrubs.

by MasterRWayne on Sep 5, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

There are only 22 starters on a team

And there are at least eight picks a year, every year. And the more starters you pick, the fewer open slots you have for other picks to become starters. By that metric, a successful drafter would begin to have poor drafts merely by definition.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice logic.

I like that.

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Man, I need a life...

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: I don't want this guy to get anywhere near me.

by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

after I come down from the crazy end of the Iowa game and the half bottle of vodka I drank during the first half while they were trailing

I’ll compare the recent drafts to the older ones

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

great idea

it’ll be interesting to see if he’s really getting any worse or not (which I personally doubt). It’d also be interesting to take injuries into consideration since that’s something you can’t foresee as much

"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."

by psvirsky on Sep 5, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Looking forward to it. : )

by KingRichard on Sep 5, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s science.

by KingRichard on Sep 5, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't understand this move

But then again, I’m a fan of front four pressure and not a fan of blitzes.

The personnel people know more than me, but that doesn’t make this move more sensible at the moment. Unless we’ve seen some pass rusher cut, that we want to pick up.

"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi

by gizzardfanny on Sep 5, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I love the move

by you to make your screen name “gizzardfanny”

It really is genious. Thank you.

"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"

by AceOfSpades on Sep 5, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thank Captain Underpants

"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi

by gizzardfanny on Sep 5, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Howard

Just me speculating: Marcus’ one ability was to rush the passer. In pre-season, he was pretty bad holding up against the run. In the past, Dungy was more interested in players who were a little under-sized but compensated with speed. Clearly, Caldwell does not share that philosophy. He seems to like players who are better against the run.

Also folks, please note, the DEs currently are Freeney, Mathis, Brock, and Dawson. The defense this year is designed to generate more pressure using blitzes. This takes the pass rushing strain off Freeney and Mathis, which likely contributed to them BOTH getting hurt in 2007.

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by BigBlueShoe on Sep 5, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I can buy part of that...

Freeney’s injury was a freakish thing. He planted his foot wrong on a sloppy field.

Mathis…could have been over work.

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by deshawn zombie on Sep 5, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Any more news?

Go Colts!

by fpacheco on Sep 5, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Cuts

Teams have to be at 53 by 6pm.

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by BigBlueShoe on Sep 5, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Keiaho can't be cut soon enough

Go Colts!

by fpacheco on Sep 5, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If they cut Howard

and keep Keiaho, I will officially flip a shit.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Howard is a better LB than Keiaho

Go Colts!

by fpacheco on Sep 5, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

???

How do you know?

by ColtsFanNChiTown on Sep 5, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just assuming anything

is better than Keiaho

Go Colts!

by fpacheco on Sep 5, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wait,

so am I better than Keiaho? Can I have my million dollar signing bonus now?

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Corey Lynch

Cut by the Bengals

by Aerostar193 on Sep 5, 2009 5:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

QBs cut

Vikings cut JD Booty. Packers cut Brian Brohm. Brohm was a 3rd round pick in 2008. Had he come out early, he might have been a first rounder in 2007. No, he’s bagging groceries.

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by BigBlueShoe on Sep 5, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think Brohm was actually

a 2nd rounder…And I considered him better than Matt Ryan :S

Go Colts!

by fpacheco on Sep 5, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The 49ers cut OT Alex Boone and RB Kory Sheets. Inte-freakin-resting.

by KingRichard on Sep 5, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Sheets looked good

Pickups will be interesting, Indy’s near the bottom on waiver claims.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

surprised they cut Sheets

Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis

by hoosier in sodak on Sep 5, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Alex Boone could have an upside...he's like 6'8

Go Colts!

by fpacheco on Sep 5, 2009 5:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He also couldn't hack it

on the NINERS line…

Then again Lilja was a waiver pickup, so it’s clear that teams don’t always know what they’re losing. Fingers crossed.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Boone

He also appears to be a prodigiously violent drunk. Not a good fit.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The 49ers o-line is somewhat underrated imo.

by KingRichard on Sep 5, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

In a few minutes...

fans of some other team might be drooling over Tony Ugoh. It’s best not to get too excited.

18to88.com

by deshawn zombie on Sep 5, 2009 5:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

If it comes to that

We are so far beyond screwed.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

what does that mean?

Go Colts!

by fpacheco on Sep 5, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tony's on the bubble.

Seems like he might get cut. I hope not, but that’s the word.

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by deshawn zombie on Sep 5, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Tony gets cut.....

does that make that draft an epic fail???

"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."

PEYTON MANNING

by cscott5527 on Sep 5, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Based on what?

Other than he was playing garbage time in the fourth preseason game (also known as the kiss of death).

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So who would backup the Tackle position?

Makes no sense…I would get very angry if they cut him

Go Colts!

by fpacheco on Sep 5, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

me too...

But both Phil B and Oehser seemed to think it was possible.

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by deshawn zombie on Sep 5, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

its 6pm eastern

wheres the news

Please, please draft a big Defensive Tackle. Please?

Enter Fili Moala. Thank you Polian

by skywalker on Sep 5, 2009 6:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Good question

I’m not sure if they make these sorts of things directly public.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

im sure they would need to update their roster page but i dont see that either

Please, please draft a big Defensive Tackle. Please?

Enter Fili Moala. Thank you Polian

by skywalker on Sep 5, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Last year (I was watching for the final cuts closely),

the roster page was updated just after 8:00 Saturday night, and then the news organizations reported it (Indystar gets a release at the same time the page is updated). Also, the Colts don’t necessarily have to release who was cut until Sunday at the latest.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow, the Falcons cut my second favorite DT going into the draft this year Vance Walker.

by KingRichard on Sep 5, 2009 6:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

had the Colts taking him in the 3rd round in my mock...

no wonder im not a scout or GM for a team

by ColtsFanNChiTown on Sep 5, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Packers cut Jamon Meredith.

IS IT DESTINY?!?! ZOMG

by KingRichard on Sep 5, 2009 6:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

thats my guy

from university of south carolina!!!!!!!!! maybe rychelski (sp?) puts in a good word.

Please, please draft a big Defensive Tackle. Please?

Enter Fili Moala. Thank you Polian

by skywalker on Sep 5, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

could be

Coaches always like to work with guys that they know.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sure hope so.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Titans cut DeMarcus Faggins

You may remember him as this guy

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 6:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Nice picture.

I had forgotten about that.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

titans or texans

Please, please draft a big Defensive Tackle. Please?

Enter Fili Moala. Thank you Polian

by skywalker on Sep 5, 2009 6:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

titans

they had picked him up

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh ok

Please, please draft a big Defensive Tackle. Please?

Enter Fili Moala. Thank you Polian

by skywalker on Sep 5, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Da Bearsssss just cut former Ohio State LB Marcus Freeman.

by KingRichard on Sep 5, 2009 6:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

jamon meredith & vance walker

sound to me kinda like cory hilliard and adrian grady. been there . . .done that.

by oldecoltsfan on Sep 5, 2009 6:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That's just cruel

Comparing anyone to “whatever that was” is unfair.

by slash196 on Sep 5, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Marcus Howard

I think this reflects the defense philosophy. For years, the team would appear to not be interested in large DTs, now we’ve got several. The defense has been too reliant on Freeney. Dwight isn’t going to play forever, so the coaches either need to (a) drafts another Dwight Freeney, or (b) learn to play defense differently. Some of us thought Marcus Howard would be the next great DE, but I guess he wasn’t. In summary, I don’t care who makes the team as long as we can stop the run and get off the field after third downs.

by taipei_coltsfan on Sep 5, 2009 6:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

+ a gazillion

Please, please draft a big Defensive Tackle. Please?

Enter Fili Moala. Thank you Polian

by skywalker on Sep 5, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

" . . . . .get off the field after third downs."

Yeah . . .and frig the damn bend but don’t break defensive philosophy. I much prefer the get in your face variety, that has the quality of players to turn loose on the opposition and get Peyton the damn ball three or four more times a game. And we do have those players.
If one examines our offensive philosophy, the word that best characterizes it is ‘aggressive’. Peyton and Tom Moore are always attacking defenses.
It’s about time our defense matched that attitude with it’s own aggressive streak. I think our stable of DB’s is good enough to handle covering for the use of blitzes more often than in the past.

by oldecoltsfan on Sep 5, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1000000000000000000000

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Sep 5, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You do realize

That aggression can lead to some big passing lanes. Teams dont need to run to convert in third down. I just hope when they blitz, they do it on short distances rather than thrid and long

by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

when...

do we find out about our final roster?

@lefpsyd

by lefpsyd on Sep 5, 2009 6:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

as soon as Colts.com posts it or someone from the media gets their hands on it.

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Last year,

it was just after 8:00 Saturday night.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

by blue31 on Sep 5, 2009 6:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

the suspense is killing me here

"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."

PEYTON MANNING

by cscott5527 on Sep 5, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Im still kind o fpissed that howards gone

but Ill deal with it. So long as the defense can finally get there run D fixed and still rush the passer without giving up big pass plays, ill be happy.

by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 6:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think

with a couple of these cuts, the indication will be that Painter will be kept

by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 6:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

every shocker means a spot for a fringe guy

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

" . . .a spot for the fringe guy."

Shake, couldn’t agree more. This year’s roster shaping kinda smacks of the final scene from “The Godfather” . . . . .when all old family business is cleaned up. Polian is admitting and correcting personnel decisions that didn’t quite work out. Time to turn the corner and move on.

by oldecoltsfan on Sep 5, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Aw,

now you ruined the end of it for me ;-)

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Everyone look on the bright side

We’re not keeping 4 quarterbacks!!! Sux for the Bux

Please, please draft a big Defensive Tackle. Please?

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by skywalker on Sep 5, 2009 6:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think the real bright side is....

that we aren’t the Bucs. They’ve not been the same since Dungy and McKay left.

"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."

PEYTON MANNING

by cscott5527 on Sep 5, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Curtis Johnson makes the Cowboys 53

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 6:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

ugh

Please, please draft a big Defensive Tackle. Please?

Enter Fili Moala. Thank you Polian

by skywalker on Sep 5, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ugh indeed

"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."

by psvirsky on Sep 5, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah cutting cujo still puzzles me

cause unlike howard, he did pretty well against the run and was able to generate pressure on the passer, unlike Key and Thomas.

by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Will they....

convert him to OLB in their 3-4 or will ge be a pass rush DE in nickel and dime packages?

"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."

PEYTON MANNING

by cscott5527 on Sep 5, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeap, that’s their plan. They need more bodies for the OLB position.

by KingRichard on Sep 5, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Meh, good for him.

by KingRichard on Sep 5, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

taking a break from the "Are the Drafts getting worse" post. It'll probably be done and up tomorrow

initial results are inconclusive, but the 2001 draft kicked some ass (long time starters Wayne/Diem and a good number of years in the lineup from Bashir and DeMulling)

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by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

and that's before accounting for draft slots.

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don’t blow your load too earlier man, you should keep everyone in suspense!

by KingRichard on Sep 5, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

SERIOUSly

can’t wait for this article.

by saintnixon on Sep 6, 2009 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The cutting of Howard definitely felt like a Blount suckerpunch

But I figure it has to make sense somewhere. Despite feeling him built up, I wasn’t blown away with his game from what I did see of him this preseason, but I may have missed some of his brighter moments. It’s a shame, just because I wanted to root for him, but it is what it is. We’ll keep moving on.

by goodlucksaturday on Sep 5, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

well if that was a blount sucker punch

lets just hope there isn’t teammate hitting, fan charging and cop pushing to come in the rest of the cuts.

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ooh i like that term...the Blount Suckerpunch

works on two levels

"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."

by psvirsky on Sep 5, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Sep 5, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

nfl.com

is running cuts on their ticker. They are on Baltimore going alphabetically…

18to88.com

by deshawn zombie on Sep 5, 2009 7:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Skipped right over "I"

by smonroe on Sep 5, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Probably think it's a lower case L

dumbasses

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Sep 5, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ha!

by ctnyc on Sep 5, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And they skip Indy. Suck.

18to88.com

by deshawn zombie on Sep 5, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

NFL.com says the Steelers have made there cuts, but are refusing to release the names until tomorrow

hmm

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

is that even legal?

I imagine the names will slip out anyway through agents and such

"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."

by psvirsky on Sep 5, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

they've probably told the league

but won’t tell any media and probably told the players/agents to keep it quiet.

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Steelers Released 21 players so far

and have them posted here

http://www.steelers.com/article/109799/

by coltsfan723 on Sep 5, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bernard Pollard cut

I’m surprised it took this long with Pioli at the helm. Maybe he wanted to torture Pollard for a while.

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by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Who's Bernard Pollad?

Never heard of him before.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

the guy on the bottom

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, OK.

Now I get your reference to Pioli and everything. It all makes sense now.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pollard almost took out Matt Cassel

during Training Camp, the exact same way he took out Brady. Only this time Cassel was his teammate, and he was able to yell out a warning before hitting him and rolling onto his leg. Lucky for Cassel, he was able to get up and walk away.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Sep 5, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

wow

this actually surprises me quite a bit.
i thought pollard was one of the chiefs’ better young, defensive players…

by saintnixon on Sep 6, 2009 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

zach thomas cut

and the Jags starting tackle just got cut (Pathos?)

"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."

by psvirsky on Sep 5, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Tony Pashos that is

"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."

by psvirsky on Sep 5, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

well they did have 2 starters and 1st day two rookies

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

NFL Network guys just said they could have 2 starting rookie tackles

He was at RT anyways, so probably not someone we will be looking to

"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."

by psvirsky on Sep 5, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

actually they moved him to guard after their draft and FA LT pickups, not RT.

Sucks, I’ve run into him a few times at Poliquin Chicago, seemed like a good guy.

by willyduer on Sep 5, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Steelers cut DE/OLB Bruce Smith

I really liked him in the 08 draft.

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Do we need a new thread?

Ok so it’s a selfish reason… I’m about to head out to the Cal game and want to check updates from my phone. 250+ comment threads are hard to scroll through :-)

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Sep 5, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I'll put a new one up when the cuts come out

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agre

Go Colts!

by fpacheco on Sep 5, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Go Cal!

OU is looking pretty good right now.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Sep 5, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Patriots just released

TE Alex Smith, a couple of months after giving Tampa Bay a 5th rounder for him. That’s a way to waste a 5th round draft pick. Oops.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

who cares?

they have like 400 draft picks for this upcoming draft

Go Colts!

by fpacheco on Sep 5, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

even for good evaluators the draft is a bit of a crapshoot

you want every shot to get a good player as you can get.

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Got a 7th rounder back from the Saints

for David Thomas

by ctnyc on Sep 5, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Raiders just cut Garcia.

That really surprises me.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Sep 5, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I thought Garcia would be good for him

his DVOA while hurried was crazy high.

though with the Raiders them cutting him probably means I was right, instead of wrong about him.

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

Yeah, I felt bad for him last year…Gruden + a crappy line = just can’t catch a break.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Sep 5, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

minny

this is the old QB that minnesota should have brought in. crazy accurate and efficient…

by saintnixon on Sep 6, 2009 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Anyone ever get the thought....

that the Raiders should adopt the philosphy of doing exactly the opposite of what they think they should do? I have a feeling they would be much more successful this way

"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."

PEYTON MANNING

by cscott5527 on Sep 5, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Raiders' management

continues to give me hope that I could run an NFL team someday.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm pretty happy with Madden "the game"

OH NO WE SUCK AGAIN!

by colts9318rock on Sep 5, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I really hate to be morbid here

Honestly, I do. But my strong opinion is that the Raiders will not be good again until Al Davis dies. And this is coming from a former Raiders fan during the glory years (mid-70s to early-80s, before the Colts came to Indy when I had no local team to root for). Back in the day Al Davis took risks on talented players who had character issues but were proven NFL players. These days I think he’s just hurling random shit at the wall, forgetting that talent doesn’t always translate into production.

by ctnyc on Sep 5, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."

PEYTON MANNING

by cscott5527 on Sep 5, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

grrrr

where’s my list????

I want to eat and go out soon.

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I already ate.

So, I’ve just gotta make some popcorn, and I’m good to go.

I’m in for the long hall. Plus, I’m actually getting some homework done due this week. Call it multi-tasking.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

On a side note I just saw someone....

pick the Jags to win the AFC South this year. Must have taken a heavy blow to the head there Gene Wojciechowski

"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."

PEYTON MANNING

by cscott5527 on Sep 5, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Bucky Brooks

has the Colts goin 8-8 and missing the playoffs. Seriously?

by coltsfan723 on Sep 5, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I could understand a reporter picking

any team to win the South except for the Jags.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

damn

I was sure I was going to get back and the list would be out.

I pictured it as… I get up for 2 minutes to get food and then the list is out, there are 20 fanposts up with the names and “Go Colts” 50 times at the bottom. The thread is all “Where’s Shake? Where’s Shake?”

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

ROFL.

Nice. The scary part is that I could actually picture it happening…..

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Something complicated could be going down . . . .

Maybe Polian is working a trade for a decent left tackle.

by oldecoltsfan on Sep 5, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think they are just being secretive like always

giving fans the shaft for a tiny possible edge.

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have a feeling

that we’re going to be saying these same things at 2:00 AM. And I bet there will be people who will refuse to go to sleep because they’re convinced that the Colts will release the list at 2:30 AM. I cannot say if I’m one of those people yet.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll be drunk (again) by then.

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What's your record for # of times getting drunk in one day?

You may break that record today.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

1

not a high frequency drinker, but more than enough in quantity usually.

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m actually already feeling my hangover from the drunk I got during that stupid Iowa game. I don’t even care about college football, but a friend is an Iowa guy. And now my head is fucking killing me.

by willyduer on Sep 5, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that game was awful

two blocked FGs in the final 7 seconds away from getting App State’d.

UNI is probably a top 5 FCS team (Semifinalist last year), but they are still an FCS team.

I just hope the tackling gets better, Paki O’Meara never starts at RB again and the guys coming back from DUI suspensions make an impact.

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

my bad

the dumbass corner who told the police the bartender must have spiked his coke got two games.

They just get their drunk moped’ing 330lb RT back next week.

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exciting game, though.

Down to the wire. A few of the Big Ten teams struggled today more than they should’ve. Concerning.

by coltsfanawalt on Sep 5, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

On the other hand,

the Purdue kicker hit a 59 yard field goal today. I could hear the cheering from my dorm room.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also,

the long wait time reminded me that I hadn’t updated my RFOTWFTEVTIMY yet today. So that’s a good thing.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Boiler up!

by coltsfanawalt on Sep 5, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

me be drunky too . . .

. . .but, are there any left tackles to be had via trade?

by oldecoltsfan on Sep 5, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not any Tarik Glenn-type people

if that’s what you mean. Anybody who’s good enough to be our LT wouldn’t be traded.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cassieper . . . I know in my heart you are absolutely right, but . . . .

. . .couldn’t Howard Mudd bow up and take Tony Ugoh out behind the woodshed and tune his wussy ass up? You know . . .motivate him in a manly, old-school kind of way?

by oldecoltsfan on Sep 5, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Interesting thought.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow

Just saw Sam Bradford take a nasty hit. Clean, but damaging. I’m not sure he’s okay. That could change a lot this year in college ball.

by coltsfanawalt on Sep 5, 2009 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Looked a lot like Haynesworth on Brady the other day.

by coltsfanawalt on Sep 5, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I give

This is just painful waiting. Think i will find something else to do.. I will check back around 1 a.m. when the dog is whining to be let out….

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by bluegirl on Sep 5, 2009 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Polian to take a lesson from Mangini

Bill Polian has decided to not allow Jags fans to see the 53 player roster until opening day. Polian said “if Cleveland can not name a QB I can not name a team”

In other news
I was quoted as saying "Hurry the BLEEP UP and release the roster!

by VermVerm on Sep 5, 2009 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

sign KLECKO

i think he would make a great fullback if i remember right he did play that and DT when the colts went to the superbowl

by Livemaxxx on Sep 5, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I thought he was an awful fullback.

I believe the last good fullback we had was Luke Lawton.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

" . . . .last good fullback we had"

. . . .Zach Crockett. Now, he was a GOOD fullback.

by oldecoltsfan on Sep 5, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

mungro before the injury bug bit him square on the ass.

by saintnixon on Sep 6, 2009 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

From Phil B

Just checking in with fans about today’s cuts. We’re of the opinion the Colts aren’t sending out the release until the NFL office makes all the cuts public at about 9 p.m.

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

You mean in 5 minutes?

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

pretty sure that's what he means

you Indy folks are eastern time right?

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by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep.

I was wondering if you meant today or Sunday.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So, you got the new thread ready to plug the cuts in and post?

I have a feeling this site is going to get very busy, very soon.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

had it up for a while

and a screenshot of the old roster in case the roster page is updated before any media has the list.

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also of note

is whether Sanders comes off the PUP list. It’s easy to see whether he does or not from the roster list.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lawton

Oh man… i remember Luke Lawton man he had his 15 minutes of fame in one game what ever happened to him?

by Livemaxxx on Sep 5, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He went to the Eagles

and was cut last preseason (2008).

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

fumble

Didn’t he fumble twice in a game?

by VermVerm on Sep 5, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Beats me.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

why does a majortiy of our players either go to the Eagles or Titans???

by Livemaxxx on Sep 5, 2009 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

This is the calm before the storm on this site.

It’s kind of unnerving.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Although...

I havent been a member very long I get the feeling that this site will blow up when the final 53 is announced

"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."

PEYTON MANNING

by cscott5527 on Sep 5, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

You're correct.

Trust me, you’re right. I was monitoring all of the sites when the Ed Johnson resigning news hit. I expect this to be about 3X bigger than that.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

colts

the nfl better enjoy this calm before the colts release the storm on September 13!

by Livemaxxx on Sep 5, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

LOL.

Nice. I like it.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm currently refreshing

5 different sites every couple of minutes. I might go insane if I have to wait longer. For all I know, I may already be there.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

haha

I have been doin the same thing

by coltsfan723 on Sep 5, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hopefully all these page views I'm dumping into Indy Star Sports, Phil B's Blog, IFR and the Colts.com roster page

gets Phil B and Johnny O some cash.

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by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That's all of the sites I'm looking at.

I am also looking at this one:

http://blogs.nfl.com/tag/roster-cutdown/

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm on the wider view of all their news/blogs

same look though, because their tagging them all right so far.

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've developed a quick, foolproof system to see

if they’ve updated the colts.com roster page.

Just look and see if John Matthews is still on there.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Howard

man…. i hope they don’t cut Howard

by Livemaxxx on Sep 5, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

is that a joke?

scroll up buddy

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by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Missed the boat on that one...

do believe the announced the cut of Howard earlier today

"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."

PEYTON MANNING

by cscott5527 on Sep 5, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Howard's

gone man

by coltsfan723 on Sep 5, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Several return men available

Justin Miller, KR, waived from Raiders, returned 2 TDs during kickoffs last year. I remember him returning one for the Jets as well against us in our SB year (2006 season)

Yamon Figurs, KR, tore up the combine, excellent speed, he was waived from the Ravens.

These are 2 guys I really feel can help us. We will see.

by chad72 on Sep 5, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

man i loved Howard what’s going on in there???

by Livemaxxx on Sep 5, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

got the list

rom colts.com

Waived were: Running back Lance Ball, wide receiver Sam Giguere, defensive lineman John Gill, defensive tackle Adrian Grady, running back Mike Hart, defensive end Marcus Howard, defensive back Dante Hughes, center Steve Justice, wide receiver John Matthews, wide receiver Brett McDermott, running back Walter Mendenhall, offensive lineman Tom Pestock, wide receiver Taj Smith, linebacker Michael Tauiliili, defensive tackle Terrance Taylor, offensive lineman Jaimie Thomas, defensive end Josh Thomas and offensive tackle Michael Toudouze. Waived-Injured were: defensive backs Nick Graham and Travis Key and tight end Jamie Petrowski.

by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

suprising indeed

why isn’t simpson on here?

by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

SOme of those just make my jaw drop....

Not so much by who got cut but by who didnt

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PEYTON MANNING

by cscott5527 on Sep 5, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

as i said in the comment prior to yous

why isn’t simpson on this list? why is hart on it and why is ball on it?

by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow.

Props for being first go to you. Let the storm of comments commence!

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Taj Smith?! Micheal Tauiliiuiu? lol Terrance Taylor?

by Livemaxxx on Sep 5, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Mike Hart and Lance Ball

What?!

by bluecru on Sep 5, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Why???

did we keep Simpson and Keiaho
/smh

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by cscott5527 on Sep 5, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

thats my question

by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Simpson for retuning,

Keiaho for being a veteran.

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sanders is off the PUP list!!!!!!!!!!!1

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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

thank god

by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that is the best news

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by bluegirl on Sep 5, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That makes....

me feel better about the beginning of the season for sure

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by cscott5527 on Sep 5, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That was my first reaction

plus I’m actually kinda excited that they kept Painter

I don’t get cutting Ball, though… I thought he looked pretty good

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Sep 6, 2009 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ALSO

The page mentions Bob Sanders is now on the active roster and off PUP.

by reddogfred on Sep 5, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No Keiaho on the list

Freddy is still there…

Hart I understand if he never healed up from last year’s injury.

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by bluegirl on Sep 5, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

post is up

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

http://www.stampedeblue.com/2009/9/5/1017548/final-15-cuts

It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.

by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

NO NOT MIKE HART and BALL??!! are we going in the season with 2 RB’s or something?!!!

by Livemaxxx on Sep 5, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Taylor and Hart are PS eligible

If they clear waivers, Taylor and Hart are PS eligible. I do not think that is the case with Marcus Howard. Marcus Howard would make a good pass rushing OLB, just like Curtis Johnson, in a 3-4. I expect a 3-4 team to pick him up.

I wonder why we picked up so many tweeners that were Mathis clones in Howard and CuJo, I guess now we have officially begun the process of bulking up.

I can see Mitch King playing for us (hoping he does:-)).

by chad72 on Sep 5, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Colts website

olts Waive 18, Place Three on Waived-Injured to Reach 53-Player Roster
INDIANAPOLIS – The Colts on Saturday waived 18 players and placed three players on waived-injured to reach the regular season 53-player roster limit.
Waived were: Running back Lance Ball, wide receiver Sam Giguere, defensive lineman John Gill, defensive tackle Adrian Grady, running back Mike Hart, defensive end Marcus Howard, defensive back Dante Hughes, center Steve Justice, wide receiver John Matthews, wide receiver Brett McDermott, running back Walter Mendenhall, offensive lineman Tom Pestock, wide receiver Taj Smith, linebacker Michael Tauiliili, defensive tackle Terrance Taylor, offensive lineman Jaimie Thomas, defensive end Josh Thomas and offensive tackle Michael Toudouze. Waived-Injured were: defensive backs Nick Graham and Travis Key and tight end Jamie Petrowski.

The Colts removed safety Bob Sanders from the Physically Unable to Perform List, placing him on the 53-player active roster. Also, defensive tackle Ed Johnson will not count on the active roster until after Week One.

by GoHorse88 on Sep 5, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

waiver wire weirdo

cut freddy and sign zach follett from detroits waiver wire, he is insane and will make the special teams better.

sean smither

by izzystradlin67 on Sep 5, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

hard for me to argue with that

Go Bears! ;-)

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Sep 6, 2009 3:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm noticing a pattern here............

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by Cassieper on Sep 6, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

How very perceptive of you

hahah /still drunk with the glory of last night’s drubbing

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Sep 6, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lance ball

it was painfully obviouslance ball didnt have that extra gear to make the stretch work. i know he ran hard but he had nuthing. i suspect polian is looking for something else. i would be surprised to see simpson on the roster past the first week. If a lamebrain like me can see him hesitating and just not accelerating on the kick off then surely the pros can see it.

sean smither

by izzystradlin67 on Sep 5, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

the offensive line

I believe if the line does not give addai and brown some room to run, there will be drastic changes(duh!!!!) My question then is this what do you do if all the guys you kept arent blocking as a unit, arent protecting manning as they should and definately should be opening holes for our RBs, what then? is this tweakable? is it something where they will grow as the season goes on? will the practice squad offer an answer? will ted leave jane and then opt for brain surgery…oops sorry i was going off the deep end..lol quick talk me off the ledge!!! lol i want a super bowl!!!!! lol

sean smither

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