Final 15 Cuts
by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 9:17 PM EDT
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PrintTo reach the final roster limit of 53 the Colts cut Adrian Grady, Marcus Howard, John Matthews, Walter Mendenhall, Dante Hughes, Steve Justice and Nick Graham, leaving them with 63 players.That leaves 15 cuts (14 if Sanders remains on the PUP) left today.
They are....
Running back Lance Ball,
wide receiver Sam Giguere,
defensive lineman John Gill,
running back Mike Hart,
wide receiver Brett McDermott,
Offensive lineman Tom Pestock,
wide receiver Taj Smith,
linebacker Michael Tauiliili,
defensive tackle Terrance Taylor,
offensive lineman Jaimie Thomas,
defensive end Josh Thomas
offensive tackle Michael Toudouze.
Waived-Injured were: DB Travis Key and tight end Jamie Petrowski.
Bob Sanders was removed from the PUP, and only 14 were cut because the suspended Ed Johnson does not count on the roster until next week when he's eligible to play.
The Colts Current Roster Is....
QBs Peyton, Sorgi, Painter
RBs Addai, Brown, Simpson
WRs Wayne, Gonzo, Collie, Garcon
TEs Clark, Gijon, Tamme, Santi
OTs CJ, Diem, Ugoh and Federkiel
OGs Lilja, Pollak, Richard
OCs Saturday, DeVan
DEs Freeney, Mathis, Brock, Dawson
DTs Mookie, (Ed), Muir, Moala, Foster
LBs Wheeler, Brackett, Session, Hagler, Senn, Humber, Keiaho
CBs Hayden, Marlin, Jennings, Powers, Lacey, Rushing
Ss Sanders, Bethea, Bullitt, Silva, Giordano
ST Vinny, Andrus, McAfee, Snow
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we did a good job w/ the cuts. We are looking for up-coming talent to mature w/ the organization. powers is going to be promising, as long as sanders and jackson keep mentoring him. the cut of the samoa was upseting , but they prob. had there reasons ,all in all im just glad its that time of year again. we all need to call the text deal at the games and turn in the other teams fans, .. GO COLTS!!!
saw this when it was first posted, but was working on adding to the post
forgot to get back to it.
There are some that puzzle me, but I know the team has seen the players more, have far more experience and have a far better track record in talent eval.
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
Honestly though
There is nothing terribly shocking in this last group. Some of these guys were probably cut with the intention that they would be on the practice squad.
Guess we are carrying 3 QB’s then.
An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less until they know everything about nothing...
Simpson for instance
doesn’t deserve to be on any of the 32 teams rosters. He sucks and cant play in the NFL
yes.. but will he stay
some of these other guys.. including Freddy, may yet find themselves out of work if there are good pickups from other teams.
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Exactly!!
wtf?
Perhaps they are looking at Dom?
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Sep 5, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
and yet somehow he made the roster for a team with 6 consecutive 12 win seasons.
Yeah, he’s obviously terrible. Way worse than the guy who just got cut from the team that hasn’t made the playoffs in a decade.
You should apply for a job in the personnel department.
Sarcasm aside,
my hope is that they are using Simpson to return kicks (and Rushing for punts), and they’ll sign someone like Rhodes off waivers.
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I don't recall Simpson being any good at returning kicks
not that Dom was either, but I trust that Dom can fill in and produce if needed and I’m not sure about Simpson.
Remember Kenton Keith?? We all know how that ended up.
If they don’t sign Rhodes, I think they will find someone that was just released by another team to return kicks. Rushing can return punts if the new kick returner is unable to. If the new guy can do both, they can release Rushing (unless they kept him for his ability as a DB) and find someone else or resign a guy they just released.
"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"
Simpson had a return to midfield in the last preseason game
but that’s the only time I remember him doing anything better than mediocre returning.
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And yet,
that’s better than anybody currently on the team. Sad, huh?
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Cut Simpson....
and sign Sheets. I beg of you Bill Polian
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I would have kept
Hart and Howard as well as Taulilili. and why 3 qb? I think Painter would have made it to PS
I think....
A lot of ppl saw the 3 qbs coming. The writing was on the wall for that one. Painter is a good developmental prospect.
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PEYTON MANNING
Developmental for what?? For a QB spot that will never be used? How many times has Sorgi made it into a regular season game? 3 times maybe? Over how many years? We want Painter to become the next Sorgi???? Am I insane or is Sorgi really good? Painter’s awful, he has no chance to help this team this year. He is complete baggage. These cuts as well as our past two drafts are God Awful. WTF is Polian thinking? Keeping Simpson, cutting Hart, keeping Keiaho and cutting Howard. Are you **cking kidding me? Shit. Trust in Peyton that he gets us to 12 this year. Trust in Peyton.
Sorgi and Painter
Both of them hold the ball too long and Sorgi is below average at going through progressions. He locks on to the primary target and if that guy is covered, Sorgi holds the ball until he is sacked. Sometimes he is able to escape the pocket for a decent gain on his feet.
Painter does the same thing, but we expect it because he’s a rookie. He has a better arm and already shows better field vision and ability to step up in the pocket.
We will likely no cut Sorgi ever for some reason, but I would not be surprised at all if they cut Painter soon after the storm has died down so they can get him to the practice squad. I don’t think the roster moves are done yet since Andrus is only on the team temporarily and Keiaho can be upgraded too. Also, the kick returner situation is questionable at best.
I predict 3 more roster moves.
"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"
WTF is Chad Simpson doing on the roster?
And how come is Keiaho still on the roster too?
Serious, some of these moves seems Al Davis-esque.. Hopefully, there is some logic behind this madness..
FOUL on the Al Davis comparison
Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis
by hoosier in sodak on Sep 5, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
versatility and special teams
There’s absolutely no need whatsoever for 7 LBs. Obviously #s 6 and 7 will never play a down at LB unless there’s a catastrophe. But they can do the job on special teams, so they’re employed.
I wouldn’t be too comfortable with the spot though if I was Keiaho. The waiver wire will have some useful players that will be good fits, I’m sure.
Hart and Ball?? who’s going to be our 3rd string Running Back!Why Smith didn’t he play good? and Taulilliili lol man i remember he was one of the few Linebackers that stood out this preseason right next to Humbler
Still one more cut
to be made when Ed Johnson is activated after his one week suspension.
Dont forget Polian...
Will probably scour the waiver wire. This is the 53 man rost as of now not the final one i would think we will see
"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."
PEYTON MANNING
that is what I want to see the next few days
Who polian gets off of waivers.
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how many days do they have?
don’t teams finalize the practice squad tomorrow? so they better make those calls tonight!!
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I think they are allowed to start building a practice squad tomorrow
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by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Shane Andrus
is still on the roster and I would assume Ed Johnson will take his spot.
that's who I was missing below
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No.
Ed still counts in the roster limit even though he is suspended. We don’t get an exemption for him.
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Colts.com story says differently
and the roster has 54 players on it with Ed. and the Eagles have a similar situation with VIck.
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Phil B said in one of the comments on the Lucky 13 page
that he does count. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm……………..
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ok so
QBs Peyton, Sorgi, Painter
RBs Addai, Brown, Simpson
WRs Wayne, Gonzo, Collie, Garcon
TEs Clark, Gijon, Tamme, Santi
OTs CJ, Diem, Ugoh and Federkiel
OGs Lilja, Pollak, Richard
OCs Saturday, DeVan
DEs Freeney, Mathis, Brock, Dawson
DTs Mookie, (Ed), Muir, Moala, Foster
LBs Wheeler, Brackett, Session, Hagler, Senn, Humber, Keiaho
CBs Hayden, Marlin, Jennings, Powers, Lacey, Rushing
Ss Sanders, Bethea, Bullitt, Silva, Giordano
ST Vinny, McAfee, Snow
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only four DT's?
need at least 1 or two more
by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
and Shaun Andrus
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Other than the RB's
I’m okay with this roster. Really would like to see Taj Smith clear waivers and end up on the PS. I also hope Lacey stays after Big Ed returns.
Agree....
I’m actually realy excited about both of our rookie corners this year. Seem like gamers to me.
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PEYTON MANNING
Oh yes
I wasn’t too sold on the Powers pick in the draft, but after seeing him play in the pre-season, along with Lacey, I’m excited about our DB’s. It also seems like we’ll be fairly set on playing man in case the LB’s blitz more under Coyer.
OK, let's break down why these guys got cut:
Lance Ball: He wasn’t that good. We only considered keeping him because Hart was injured.
Guns: Always injured. Never was going to contribute.
John Gill: Who?
Mike Hart: Serious injury. The Colts can’t wait until midseason on him.
Brett McDermott: Once again, who?
Tom Pestock: Only played in garbage time, never showed anything.
Taj Smith: Talented, maybe one year away. Cut him to get him on the practice squad. Should have no trouble getting him through the waivers.
Mike T: Another guy who’s practice squad bound. Wasn’t quite good enough to deal with starting talent.
Terrance Taylor: A huge project. Cross your fingers and hope he makes it to the practice squad.
Jaimie Thomas: A huge disappointment so far. Hasn’t shown anything. Practice squad bound.
Josh Thomas: Only good against the run. Putting him at end would concede the pass. Dawson is as good as him against the run and better as a pass rusher.
Michael Toudouze: I like him, but he is nowhere near Ugoh and CJ in talent.
Key and Petrowski: Bad players and injured. Bad combination.
So there you go.
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by Cassieper on Sep 5, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
all good points
I can’t disagree with your rationale there.
"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"
Good summation
I’m not REALLY surprised by any of the moves, except Marcus Howard. But when we “only” carry 4 DE’s I can see, why Brock and Dawson get the extra spots due to their abilities against the run.
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with Hart and Ball gone I think they are bring Dom back
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here's hoping
That would be an awesome trio
by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought of that when I saw they both got cut.
I would love that so much.
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Yep
my first thought also
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Sep 5, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I definitely see them picking up a RB from waivers.
Possibly someone who can be returner.
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi
Rhodes could replace Simpson
they both return kick offs and play RB
I doubt he'd be back
Dom is getting old at this point, and he and Addai just weren’t anything special last year. Brown is a much more interesting prospect, and I’d rather see someone young as our 3rd RB.
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again....
Please sign Kory Sheets
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Solid Bunch
We may not agree with all the cuts, but when you look at the roster, this is a solid bunch. And certainly Coyer is trying to put his stamp on the team.
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+1
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by peytonsthebest on Sep 5, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
9/13 for my Lucky 13 entry on Phil B's blog
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I'm going to go and tally them all up now.
Be back in a bit.
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stupid Taylor, Taulilili, Ball and Howard
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Wonder...
if Taylor didnt play much in the preseason so we could try and slide him on to the PS???
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hope so
they could have drafted him with that scenario already in place…a gentlemen’s agreement.
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yep
Same thing happened with Federkeil when they discovered him. If they like him but think he’s a project or a year off, it’s best to hide him.
Some of our cuts will be scooped up for other squads, and some of theirs will end up on ours instead of these guys. But it wouldn’t surprise me at all to see him and Grady end up back in Indy.
damn scrolled down counting if anyone beat me
lots of ties, but almost near the end someone got 10/13
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by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
finished the count anyway
3 people got 10/13 don’t remember the names, but they were all near the bottom.
Phil B got 9/13 like me and a number of others. I think the worst I counted was 6/13
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by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm too lazy to see how I did right now
I will check later.
"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"
I finished the tally and am about to submit it.
I only counted 2 people who got 11/14 (everybody got a point credit because of the Ed Johnson thing), they were Texas Hoosier and Lonnie. I didn’t count a third.
What was your entry name, AceOfSpades? I can give you your results too. I have it all in front of me.
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Now I can only find two 10/13s
Lonnie wrote on September 4, 2009 1:19 PM:
RB — Chad Simpson
TE — Tom Santi
OL — Steve Justice, Dan Federkeil, Kyle DeVan
DE — Marcus Howard
DT — Terrance Taylor, Eric Foster
LB — Tyjuan Hagler, Freddy Keiaho
CB — Jacob Lacy
S — Matt Giordano
Returner — T.J. Rushing.
Texas Hoosier wrote on September 4, 2009 1:48 AM:
RB-Simpson
TE-Santi
OL-Federkeil
DL-Howard, Taylor, Foster
LB-Hagler, Keiaho, Senn, Tauiliili
DB-Lacy, Giordano
ST-Rushing
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by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
oh and if you are the one who signed your entry with a rephrasing of your sig here
you got 9/13
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by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Odd timing
you have there Shake.
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so I was -3 right?
what was the worst score?
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by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
*-4 for me I mean
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by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
6/14.
By Bob R. right after your entry.
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the guy you had to yell at about PUP rules
nice
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by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I kind of smiled at that,
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whatever Cass
check the time stamps I beat you by a minute
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by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't say that I beat you.
I said that it was odd that you’d come back to it and post it at about the same time as me. I never claimed that I was first.
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ok
all sunshine and puppies.
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by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
:-)
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that's the same score as Phil B and myself
I hope you don’t call that sucking
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by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Both of you did 2 better than me.
I got 8/14.
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I expect excellence
I wanted at least 11. I think I picked Taylor and Tauiliili and maybe Grady (can’t remember on that one). Also, it’s now obvious that I have a massive distaste for Freddy K so I missed that one too.
That’s what I get for betting with my heart.
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I picked Hart Taylor Taulili and Howard
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by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm looking back now.
You were wrong on:
Mike Hart, Marcus Howard, Terrance Taylor, and Mike T.
I’m impressed that you got Humber right. What possessed you to pick him?
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Superior football knowledge
Actually I just had a hunch.
But I had a hunch that Hart wasn’t as injured as he seems to be and they wouldn’t release a 4th round draft pick from THIS DRAFT but whatever.
"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"
I'm pretty sure Ratliff made it to the Steelers 53
or else I would have liked getting him back if possible.
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yeah he made it
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by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
7 LB's and....
6 corners seems excessive to me but thats just my view of things.
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Ball or Hart?
Which one goes to the PS?
I think a lot of these cuts are confusing. Polian has given up on the 2007 and 2008 classes, his two worst classes ever. I am starting to question the drafting ability of Bill Polian greatly.
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Hart
please put him on PS.Give him another chance
by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed....
Hart has more natural ability so I would think he is PS bound
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still 8 players from those classes on the roster
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
But don't forget
coaching changes and a slight fundamental coaching and personnel philosophy are making some of these draft choices bad “fits” for the new team.
Polian & Co still have a good eye for talent. Collie and Powers will hopefully prove that.
"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"
Question
Do we have more UDFAs from the 2008 class on the roster than draft picks from that shitty class? I’m very sad Howard is gone, and I think he will make the Colts look stupid for cutting him. My boy Foster made the roster so in the end I am satisfied with this roster even if awful players like Simpson and Keiaho are still on the roster. Obviously they know more than me, but keeping Keiaho is just stupid.
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-Mitch Hedberg
Howard
At his weight, his best fit would seem to be as an OLB on a 3-4 scheme in my opinion. If he doesn’t have the skill set for that, he might need to get bigger in order to try it again. He’s lighter than many of the Colts LBs and we have some of the smallest LBs in the league.
"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"
Damn, I wish they would've cut Simpson and Keiaho
They both sucked…especially Keiaho. One of buddies who hasn’t played LB in like 6 years (his freshman of high school) could do a better job than Keiaho.
Do I believe in aliens?" Stephon Marbury asked. "I don't know, because I've never seen one. But I believe in Jesus because I saw him in the shower the other day."
That was weird
it posted before I told it to post….
anyways…Robert Montgomery Morris would be a better fit than Keiaho.
"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"
And I just saw Taylor was cut
I am definitely questioning the drafting abilities of Polian. I wonder what happened to that skill we all knew and love. I’m not nervous about this year or the next, but with this awful drafting this team isn’t going to stay good for long.
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-Mitch Hedberg
im questing
if he clears waivers, he will be on PS
by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
only so many roster spots
if the core of the team is solid a lot of draft picks are going to fail without getting much of a chance.
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Except that solid core is starting to age quickly
Usually they have one of the youngest teams in the league but if none of the recent draftees can make the roster only the vets that will be washed up in a few years will be left…
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-Mitch Hedberg
that's still old
hasn’t been updated since yesterday.
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When I opened
It says updated at 9:17. The only mistake is Gill is still on it…
it was loading a cached version for me
refreshed after clicking the link and got it.
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DEVAN
Good Prospect and can play G and C. Glad they kept him.
Because of the PUP thing
It’s probably an error.
"I saw a commercial on late night TV, it said,'Forget everything you know about slipcovers.' So I did. And it was a load off my mind. Then the commercial tried to sell me slipcovers, and I didn't know what the hell they were."
-Mitch Hedberg
If you're on the PUP
Do you HAVE to sit out 6 weeks? If so, they think he’ll be ready before that and are keeping him on…
really poorly phrased:
He might still be injured and thus not starting, but will be ready to go in time worth carrying him on the roster. But, I’m not positive on the PUP rules.
he would have had to sit until at least week 6
but wouldn’t have counted against the 53 man roster.
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
and wouldn't be allowed to practice with the team if I remember right.
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
I believe....
if the hadn’t activated him from the PUP list before the final 53 roster he would have and to sit out the first 6 weeks.
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probably wasn't fixed from when they had PUP guys as last sting.
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
Maybe not
What if he is 75% and they are going to play him sparingly
They aren't going to play him sparingly
He’s starting and playing as much as humanly possible.
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-Mitch Hedberg
depends on how healthy he is
they already talked about spelling him with Bullitt during the offseason
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by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
So starters for Jax?
Mookie and Brock? Mookie and Muir? Mookie and Moala?
Mookie and Rahiel Moaster?
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I would say...
Mookie and Muir
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Mookie and Muir
The starters for the third preseason game. I’m bummed Taylor got cut. I’m praying he makes it through the waivers and he gets on the PS.
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-Mitch Hedberg
me too
whoever said they gave him limited preseason play in an attempt to get him onto the practice squad may be on to something.
"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"
That was me...
and I am really intrigued by that myself because of his status as a 4th rounder. Seems like if that wasnt the plan he would have gotten every chance possible to prove himself. Then again I’m not in the Colt’s personnel department so it is all speculation.
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players that have been cut I hope make the practice squad
Grady, Hart, Taylor, tauilili
by metal_militia on Sep 5, 2009 9:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
How many players are on the roster right now anyway?
I hope we have 53 right now so they can cut players like simpson and keiaho for waiver wire players
seems like a good option
did Seward make it to the Jags roster? Lets get that bastard back!!
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We've got 54 right now.
Ed doesn’t count against the roster limit until after the Jacksonville game.
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Thought about that too.
Could be a longer plan to keep Andrus. We’ll know when we find some waived players.
by coltsfanawalt on Sep 5, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
AV kicked in Cinci in the 4th preseason game
not sure what the plan is with Andrus
I don’t think they are carrying him as a kickoff specialist since McAfee has the leg for it and Vinny wasn’t bad at all last year.
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Vinny missed his FG attempt
and made the EP. Perhaps they were testing, but he’s not 100%? I have no idea, just guessing.
by coltsfanawalt on Sep 5, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
it was from 47 though
I don’t think the miss tells you much.
average FG% from the 30 yard line is 70%
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by shake n bake on Sep 5, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
2 questions:
Where did you get that graph (I like it), and are those percentages for Vini only or for the whole league?
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2 Whole league.
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I think
Andrus could be kept as insurance and for kickoffs, if Vinny is lacking the strength for it.
As long as we have Vinny kicking for the playoffs, I’m fine with having Andrus here for now.
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A few comments
So far, I guess I got my wish that they keep Andrus but I wasn’t expecting Simpson and Keiaho to make it to this roster.
I do agree about having one or two good DT’s on the practice squad.
Perhaps the Colts will pick up a running back, OT, and linebacker from elsewhere.
Then they could cut some players to make room for new arrivals.
The long-snapper position seems a luxury since they’re keeping 3 QB’s.
But maybe they’re keeping Painter for now to keep him from being taken if he got cut.
Just have to wait and see how things finalize.
I wonder if Marcus Howard could have been converted to LB, since they didn’t want a small DE.
Most of the complaints
seem to be about the third stringers/people who won’t see much action. I’m gonna come out and say it: I’m pumped. Let’s get it.
I'm okay with much of the roster
but there is one line that troubles me a lot
LBs Wheeler, Brackett, Session, Hagler, Senn, Humber, Keiaho
Keiaho should not be on the team. His performance this preseason, along with his general regression over the past 2 seasons, is discouraging at best.
I’m okay with the D line even though I thought Taylor should have been given a chance. Hopefully he and Grady will make it to the practice squad.
I liked the Sorgi as an asst coach idea much better than keeping 3 QBs. I’m not surprised they released Hart but I don’t see why Simpson is a better fit than any other RB they can find off the new waiver wire.
I’m glad they kept Lacey and Humber. A little confused about Tauiliili going but hopefully he can also find the practice squad. He was a borderline player anyway.
The best part about this is that we are talking about and arguing for and against backups and not starters. The starting lineup has as much or more talent than any other team in the NFL.
"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"
Also
Newsflash: Senn still can’t tackle.
"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"
You consider that
a newsflash?
Newsflash: The sky is blue.
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couldn't agree more about keiaho
would much rather see howard, tauiliili, or taylor on the roster.
Keiaho
must have been kapt for special teams duties. Senn probably too.
We have 2 backup LBs that CAN tackle (by Colts standards), the two extra must be there only for special teams.
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Fred
he had a good game on special teams against the Bengals which might have won him the job.
"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"
Cuts
I’m OK with most of the roster as the last few spots will go to waiver pickups anyway. Keiaho, Andrus, Simpson, Rushing seem the most vulnerable. Return abilities obviously trumped things for Simpson, but he could be gone shortly. I like Ian Johnson as a waiver claim, but teams ahead of the Colts may as well. Andrus can give AV another week to get back, then will be gone after Ed’s exemption runs out. Keiaho has to be the first to go, maybe for Paris Lenon who started at MIKE for Detroit a few years ago and was waived by NE.
Humber
Also glad he made it. Gary Brackett Part II!
Anyone for these guys
Marcus Freeman LB
Yamon Figurs KR/PR
Paris Lenon LB
Ian Johnson RB
I personally would be interested in these guys off the wire. Maybe Levi Jones off the street as a look see.
pretty much only three things i'm really disappointed about.
1) marcus howard was cut when i thought he displayed noteworthy pass-rushing ability from the edge.
2) terrence taylor. i just don’t get spending a 4th round pick on a developmental prospect and then cutting him for being a developmental prospect. the 4th round seems a bit early to be doing that to me. i REALLY hopes he sneaks onto the practice squad.
3) keiaho is still on the roster, and the two players above aren’t.
lmao
Some commenter on PFT said this about the Colts players that were cut:
# PhillyRulez88 says: September 5, 2009 10:53 PM
The players that the Colts just cut could line up and beat the Raiders, Chiefs, and Lions….
The funny part is it’s true.
lol
I think there are a lot of college teams that could line up and beat the raiders right now. Terrible whats happened to that organization.
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I have to agree...
quite a bit of outrage of a 3rd RB who may or may not be asked to contribute much over the course of the season. I like Hart as a player and would like to see him stick around on the PS and possibly contribute down the road if he can prove he can stay on the field. But I’m not going to sweat over the 3rd RB until Addai and Brown both go down.
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Lots of outrage over the very last LBs and D Linemen too, guys who wouldn't even dress on Sundays
I think a lot of us like Hart the person and the player. It sucks that he lost out because of injuries instead of due to play. If he just got beat out, that’d be one thing, but it’s kind of sad to see him lose his chance because he was hurt. He battled back from a torn ACL.
I think that if healthy he could’ve been a replacement for Addai at the end of his contract, and I’m sure they thought that too. And at his low cost that would’ve been really great to have.
But maybe his injury history will scare other teams away too. If he gets healthy and doesn’t have a team I’m sure they’d look at picking him up again.
Mostly though I think people just like to freak out when their guesses are proven wrong, because everybody likes to be right.
What if Addai goes down again?
Then Simpson is all of the sudden the primary back-up. I would much rather have Hart be that backup. And even he goes down like last year, I don’t think it would be a problem to sign Simpson again. It’s not like anyone is going to pick him up. However, some teams might sign Hart.
That Sheets guy, the 9ers cut seems intriguing. Hopefully, we could snatch him up… :)
That just sounded awful
My point is: Addai might go down again. Then who is the primary backup? Well, Simpson is. I would much rather give that opportunity to Mike Hart, and should he get injured again, we could always pick up Simpson.
I don't think Simpson will be on the team in a week
they have proven in the past that they don’t need him. I believe they will find someone from another team and switch out.
"Put him on the board. Houshmazilli....got it. CHAMPIONSHIP!"
Addai going down is an inevitability but those roster spots are at a premium right now. People seem to forget that these rosters are not set in stone and that Polian is known for making some moves.
Yes, I’d be stoked if Polian went after Sheets as well. I mentioned that in the roster cuts threads. I think Sheets would be a better 3rd running back/returner than Simpson as well. But we’ll just have to wait and see what Polian does.
Cut Vinny and Sorgi
I thought the Colts should save some money and cut Vinny. And Painter looked good enough to me. Why keep Sorgi when chances are neither he or Sorgi will really play. I am also glad to see Simpson make it for his ability to return. Hart can’t stay healthy so what is the point of keeping him on the roster? I thought the would cut Muir and keep Taylor. I also thought with Vinny, Keiaho, and Sorgi’s spots they would keep Marcus Howard, Taj Smith and Toudouze.
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