Wow! New England Patriots are shipping Richard Seymour to the Oakland Raiders

Jarvis Green (Who’ll now start at DE) is a solid player, but Seymour is one of the best if not the best 3-4 end in the league. Two 1st round picks are a nice thing to have I suppose, but this will weaken their D a bit.

As for the Raiders, don’t they run a 4-3 anyway? Are they moving him to DT or something? They mortgaged the future for a guy in the last year in his deal.

I don’t like this deal for either side.

I like the move for NE. He is a very good 34 end, but they are using a lot more of the 43 these days. He knows his team, maybe he doesn’t see them as having SuperBowl contention in them and took the bait. They could need cap room to lock up Wilfork, the uncapped year not withstanding. And hell they get a high pick for a guy about to turn 30!

My guess is Oakland will use him at DT in 43.

And Oakland would then have traded a #1 for a compensatory 3rd. Nice move Oakland!

Have you guys noticed that all these moves came after Scott Pioli left for the chiefs.

haha BBS you are unbelievable.

You will simply flip everything you can to try and take a shot at the Patriots.

I am sure if I wanted to I could waste my time, go through the archives and find posts where you said Harrison, Bruschi and Vrabel were past their prime but now suddenly to fit your pats trashtalk they are still key players and New England is doomed without them. You have railed on how their D has been getting so old and is junk (I do think their pass D is bad) yet now that they have let go some of that age to rebuild suddenly it is a negative.

Give it a rest already.

You should run for a political position since you have the flip flopping aspect down as good as anyone and the ability to say what you think others want to hear. The beauty is I honestly doubt you see how pathetic you are with this stuff though I am sure everyone else does (whether they wish to make it public), save for the little lemmings who jack it to your borderline Colts propaganda.

As stated by basically everyone who has commented, the pats will come away out on top with this just like they always do and as a Colts fan that bugs me but at the same time NOTHING stops Indy from being shrewd like this other than the fact Belichick & co are simply smarter than Polian & co and no matter how much I may not want that to be true it is what it is and the evidence supports this. Now will this move probably hurt them a bit this year? Sure it will but it seems clear they are looking towards the future and feel confident they can manage without him. I also bet you they do win their division because they have proven they know how to deal with player personnel. No doubt if they do win the East I am sure you’ll be here in December writing posts rationalizing why they did rather than just accepting they are a good organization. After all, you were one who back in 07 said the Moss move would blow up on them…yep, really blew up on them.

Just as much as you bitch and whine about espn showing their Pats favouritism you are EXACTLY the same in how you will criticize them at every turn meaning both come off as incredibly annoying and flat out stupid to do.

I don’t even know why I am wasting my time writing this since you are clearly too dumb to actually get it as are any people who will read this, defend you and trash me. You’re pretty much like 97% of the internet bloggers out there who have full on low intelligence and are too dumb to realize it and thus spew forth drivel and think they are sounding intelligent doing so. When people call them out, instead of actually THINKING about what is being said, they just pass it off, and circle jerk it with their “fans” and keep being ignorant. I can’t imagine living my life where I would simply be oblivious to my shortcomings.

If by some miracle I am wrong and you actually do not have low/borderline avg intelligence and can process this then why not in the future change your style and try and be a bit less biased? Trust me, everyone will be better off for it that actually reads this site. Do you really think Colts fans who frequent this site need your bias to still be fans? Do you think that admitting Indy isn’t the be-all, end-all to the nfl and the Pats aren’t the work of the devil somehow makes you less of an Indy fan?

Just for 2 minutes I’d like to be able to use your brain and see what it is like having the thought process of a low to MAYBE an average intelligence human where bias and emotion reign supreme. I’d then like you to have mine so you could see how ridiculous you, and others who think just like you, sound when you type or say your crap.

I will now go back into avoiding this site like I have been for as long as I have since there is no point in trying to discuss crap with people who simply do not have the mental capacity to get it and really, I do not mean that as a bad thing since you low intelligence people didn’t choose to be that way and were merely born with inferior brains.

Don’t even waste your time replying since I will not ever read it as there is no point for me to waste my time trying to argue with those who can’t see reality. It’d be like you arguing with a 3 yr old…no matter what you say they will simply never get it and nothing is gained.

So take this as some constructive criticism or merely take the classic human approach and say “whatever” (the sign of the impending idiocracy) and think I’m an idiot. I really don’t give a crap.

Very coherent post, with great points. Plus the fact that you didn’t find it necessary to paint everyone on this site as “low to Maybe average” intelligence, while trying to sell yourself as some kind of rocket scientist. I find it quite refreshing.

This trade is typical of Belichick and the Patriots. They may sacrifice some games this year, yet I image NE will be a top contender for their conference championship for the next two years. They really know how to leverage their players for future top draft choices better than most teams today.

is that vrabel showed serious decline last year, bruschi had lost almost all lateral mobility, and rodney harrison was slow and unhealthy. in short, all three were WAY past their prime.
so losing those three guys is nothing at all like losing sanders, brackett, and mathis – or polamalu, harrison, and woodley for that matter.

seymour is still a very good player, and while this move certainly does make business sense for the pats, he’ll surely be missed…

but they’re still the clear favorites in their division. who’s better? buffalo’s a train wreck. the jets have a rookie qb and serious questions at wr. i’m not sold on a miami squad with an incredibly difficult schedule and questions at a handful of positions…. the pats almost have to be favorites by default. i’m not buying them as clear cut superbowl favorites, but they have to be favored to win the afc east.

…in the short term, I expect the Colts to play either the Chargers or Steelers in the AFCCG this year.

This year, schedule wise, I think the Colts have a good chance to win the division and finish #1 or #2 in the AFC.

Here is to ring #2 for Manning and the Colts:-).

Lot of things going on here. Seymour’s age and declining skills, although still very good, final year of his contract, high current salary, and lots of replacements parts . Added together, and it is time for him to go while the Patriots can still get some value for him.
The same was true of Vrabel. Declining skills and high salary made him dispensable. Rodney Harrison and Tedy Bruschi were different. Their age lead to declining skills, and Rodney has had a lot of injuries lately and missed a lot of games the last 2 years. He played with abandon and his body could not take it anymore. Tedy was behind others on the depth chart.
But this is why the Patriots have been able to be so good for so long, unlike other teams. They are willing to trade or cut long time and popular players while they have trade value, or to simply let them go out with dignity like Harrison and Bruschi, rather than sit on the bench as 2nd and 3rd stringers, taking up cap space as well.
So while there may be a short term loss of Seymour’s skills, they are stocking up for the future in a year where they will not have to pay ridiculous salaries to an unproven 1st round draft pick. Remember, this is the same team that opted out of 2 1st round picks in the last draft, to end up getting a player in the 2nd round that many thought could go in the first round, while picking up more picks for dropping back. Only time will tell, but Patriots have a lot of defensive linemen to step in this year.

Now they have cap space to get a quality back up QB, and sign some of their other guys whose contracts are up this year

I was definitely surprised by this. If I was him i’d be pissed that they traded me to the raiders they suck bigtime