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Banter On The ESPN Site



  Here are a few of my posts from the ESPN site in answer to a few who were convinced Rivers was a better QB than Manning. It evolved into comparisons to Star, Unitas, Favre, Warner and whoever else they could pull out of the bag.

 

 

I watched Star and Unitas play. And yes, for their era they were fantastic just as Manning is for his. However, while QB's did not have the same rules to protect them from the likes of, say, Deacon Jones, they also never faced the size and speed of todays players. I have sat at games and watched Star play live as well as Manning today. Unless you have been there to compare both you have no idea how small an slow the game used to be. Without the current rules both Manning AND Untitas (if he played today) would be killed. And Manning WOULD have survived as well as any QB back in the day. In fact he might have done better seeing he was bigger than most of the defensive players of the time. In fact, Manning as a play caller is a throw back to just that era. He makes his own calls much the way Unitas used to. Unlike Brees, Rivers, Favre, Warner, Brady etc. etc. Manning does not use the "wrist band" cheat sheet. He uses what other players and coaches have described as a computer like memory and knowledge of the game to run his offense. He is the only QB in the league that is allowed to perform Offensive Coordinating duties when he is not in the game. He really is a QB cut more closely out of the Unitas era mold than anyone playing today.

 

  • colt_monger (1/11/2010 at 11:28 PM) Report Violation Furthermore, Manning has reached nearly every QB milestone faster than any QB in history, including total yards and TD's. Rivers is not on pace for any of it. Manning is also second in comebacks only to 20 year veteran Favre who has ONE more than Peyton. In the sixteen major QB stats tracked Manning dominated this year too. Comparing just Manning, Favre, Brees and Rivers. Farve led the other three in just one stat and second place to Manning in another. Brees led the other three in four stats, second in two and tied for second in another. Rivers led the other three in four stats and placed second in none. Manning led the other three in six stats and placed second in another six, three to Brees and three to Rivers. Across the board Manning was statistically better. While having more interceptions he only had two fumbles with none lost. Brees had 9 with 6 lost and Rivers had 6 with 3 lost. But most importantly, Manning won more games! He is still undefeated while playing 60 minutes under center! Manning IS MVP. And he will be Superbowl MVP in Miami this year. The Chargers fantastic run comes to an end in two weeks.
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  • colt_monger (1/11/2010 at 11:13 PM) Report Violation Those saying Rivers is better than Manning have no football knowledge. Rivers has only played four full seasons with only four games in his first two seasons. One of those"two game" seasons gave him a 110.0 QB rating. This gave him his current 95.8 compared to Mannings 95.2. Of course Mannings is over a 192 game career, Rivers has 68 games. Lets see how it is in the end. Manning has a completion percentage of 64.8 to Rivers 63.1. Manning has an average of 261.1 YPG to Rivers 219.9. Manning has five 30+ TD seasons, Rivers just one. Rivers has two 4000+ yard seasons out of six. Manning has TEN 4000+ yard seasons out of twelve! Manning has 50 fumbles with only 16 lost in twelve seasons, Rivers has 36 fumbles with 15 lost in six! Manning has played to this level for 12 seasons. Rivers has had four good years so far. Averaging 20+ TDs and over 3000 yards a season Rivers has done well. But he is statistically no Manning and with only four full seasons under his belt still has a lot to prove over the long hall that he is in the same league as Peyton. Manning has led his team to more wins in a decade than any other team. And by the way. Rivers NEVER played Manning in the playoffs. He played the Colts defense! If you want to compare then compare defenses because when comparing QB's Rivers is on the short end of the stick. Manning is the least sacked QB because he reads the defense better and gets rid of the ball which is why he also has fewest fumbles.
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